OrderFlow charts and Notes 17/08/15

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Room Name: Vtrender
Date and Time: August 18, 2015 08:36:23

[11:03]   Vtrender Live : (08:49) r m:http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-18th-aug-2/
(08:50) r m:http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-and-notes-170815/
(08:50) r m:Nifty AUG Future levels | Key reference area 8441 | Hypo1 above 8533➜8573 SL 8488 | Hypo2 below 8441➜8396➜8357 SL 8497
(08:50) r m:Banknifty AUG Future levels | KRA 18640 | Hypo1 above 18940➜19048 SL 18840 | Hypo2 below 18710➜18640➜18600 SL 18815

[11:13]   Shai : (11:13) Shai :Buy NF 8504 sl of 8480 tgt 8533

[11:56]   Shai : (11:56) Shai :NF stopped

[12:05]   Shai : (12:05) Shai :Sell NF below 8475 tgt 8452 sl of 8504

[12:13]   Shai : (12:13) Shai :weekly option trade : Buy 8400 ce at 115- 117, sl of 85 tgt 162/ 187

[12:31]   Shai : (12:31) Shai :Keep an NF sell below 8435 sl of 8458 tgt 8411/ 8396- trade a 50% qty . sell below**

[12:45]   Shai : (12:45) Shai :Buy BNF abv 18725 sl of 18666 tgt 18770/ 18825

[14:56]   Shai : (14:56) Shai :Book out 8400 ce weekly call at cmp- we will review later

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General Chat Transcript

Room Name: Vtrender
Date and Time: August 18, 2015 08:36:23

[08:45]   Vikkas C : GM all
[08:49]   r m : Good Morning folks!
[08:49]   r m : Hi Vikkas
[08:49]   r m : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-18th-aug-2/
[08:50]   r m : http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-and-notes-170815/
[08:50]   r m : Nifty AUG Future levels | Key reference area 8441 | Hypo1 above 8533➜8573 SL 8488 | Hypo2 below 8441➜8396➜8357 SL 8497
[08:50]   r m : Banknifty AUG Future levels | KRA 18640 | Hypo1 above 18940➜19048 SL 18840 | Hypo2 below 18710➜18640➜18600 SL 18815
[08:50]   Vikkas C : Hi RM gdmrng 🙂
[08:50]   r m : 🙂
[08:51]   Sankar : GM RM, Shai, Everyone 🙂
[08:52]   Sankar : @Shai, option data missing for last few days.
[08:52]   Sankar : *two days 🙂
[08:52]   r m : Hi Sankar 🙂
[08:52]   r m : Shai wll join late today
[08:52]   Sankar : Oh ok.
[08:53]   Sankar : I thought near sterday’s closing DPOC came up. looks like its still at 8452.
[08:54]   John : GM all
[08:55]   Moses : GM All
[09:00]   Sankar : RM, you have account in IB?
[09:01]   Deepak : GM All
[09:01]   r m : no Sankar, I am a micro trader, use Zerodha 🙂
[09:01]   Sankar : Ok I am a micro-nano trader then :D. Somone in our room said, IB has a way to say buy options when NF is at XYZ level etc.
[09:02]   Sankar : Thought I will open an account there. But wanted to ask about any implications and the cost etc before doing that.
[09:03]   r m : you mean conditional orders, where you can give alert on index or futures and buy options?
[09:03]   Sankar : yes.
[09:04]   r m : ok, we have a workaround for that, find out option premium at any level by using option calculator works well during intraday
[09:05]   Sankar : The option calculator in NOW terminal would do?
[09:05]   r m : yes, now or nest are same, good option calculators, work on same principle
[09:05]   Tejpreet : GM All.
[09:05]   Sankar : Nice. I will check that then. Thank you.
[09:06]   r m : welcome, which broker you are using?
[09:06]   Sankar : I am with zerodha
[09:06]   Sankar : micro-nano traders ;-D
[09:06]   r m : ok, keep harrassing Nithin with demands for OCO orders like you suggested, he will implement sooner or later 🙂
[09:07]   r m : these guys are very innovative
[09:07]   Sankar : Yeah. They do come up with new ideas, but mostly not practical ones.
[09:07]   r m : lol
[09:08]   Sankar : I still wonder where that cover order will be helpful. May be I am yet to learn its real usage.
[09:08]   r m : bracket order is very practical but needs SL-M entry instead of limit entry
[09:08]   Sankar : yes. bracket order with Sl-M would be awesome.
[09:08]   r m : cover order is useful for instant entries when you don’t have time like at sharp breakouts
[09:09]   Sankar : but RM, no way to trail above entry.
[09:09]   Sankar : and also no way to specify a target order :(.
[09:09]   r m : you can change stop loss in cover order? or that is not possible?
[09:10]   Sankar : u can cahnge, but it will be in the range below initial entry.
[09:10]   Sankar : lets say I am buying NF at 8500 with SL at 8480 or something.
[09:11]   Sankar : now if NF is moving to 8550, I can only say exit at market. I cannot keep a tgt at 8600 or a TSL above 8500.
[09:11]   r m : ok, used it only a few times when it was launched. I did not know how to get of it till i accidentally pressed exit button 🙂
[09:11]   Sankar : Practially it may be useful for scalpers…. not for trailing guys.
[09:11]   Sankar : Exactly.. that exit button is the only way to get out. Its not accident ;). lol.
[09:12]   r m : yes, MIS is good enough for me. In any case, I don’t like to overtrade which all low margin products enable one to
[09:13]   RK : GM Shai,RM and all
[09:13]   r m : Hi RK
[09:13]   Manthan : Goodmng All
[09:13]   Srini A : GM All
[09:13]   Sankar : Yeah. except leverage its not attractive. But we don’t need that level of leverage also.
[09:13]   r m : @RK, Shai will join later, GM stored 🙂
[09:14]   RK : thanks for allowing space to store 🙂
[09:14]   r m : exactly, much better to feed two MIS orders, one for SL, one for target – Jugaad 🙂
[09:15]   Sankar : 🙂
[09:15]   Anay : GM All
[09:22]   Varun : test
[09:23]   r m : passed 🙂
[09:23]   Varun : gm everyone
[09:23]   r m : Hi Varun
[09:23]   Varun : wazz up
[09:23]   Varun : sellers at top
[09:23]   r m : mor of yesterday it looks like!
[09:23]   r m : *more
[09:23]   Prakash : hi varun gm
[09:23]   Tejpreet : Varun we got your gap up .
[09:23]   Varun : yup
[09:24]   Varun : tht worked 🙂
[09:26]   Varun : looks weak
[09:30]   Prakash : on 8521 price arrtacts sellers then y it attracts buyers @ 8523 FP 30min
[09:31]   Varun : cos its an auction
[09:37]   Vikkas C : vwap bands contracting ..any significance ..
[09:38]   r m : low volumes
[09:38]   Varun : bo lloks tough in ib
[09:38]   Vikkas C : is this again going to be fade the extreme type of day
[09:38]   Varun : may be like friday , some late entries
[09:38]   Varun : slight diff
[09:39]   Vikkas C : ok cool thanx varun
[09:39]   Varun : value in upper half near vah
[09:39]   Vikkas C : yeah abv yesterday VAH
[09:39]   Varun : wont take much efforts to break upside
[09:39]   r m : @Varun, looks like these guys bent on making a D out of 14th profile 🙂
[09:39]   Varun : tht would lead to a 300 point mve
[09:40]   Varun : on breakout
[09:40]   Varun : in last week
[09:40]   Varun : option lotteries
[09:40]   r m : 🙂
[09:40]   Varun : all options hve shrunken a lot
[09:40]   Varun : like easy avlbl in 20’s
[09:41]   Varun : could b 5x
[09:41]   Varun : sos kris
[09:41]   Prakash : varun, means a breakout abv 8545
[09:42]   Varun : yes or below 8440
[09:42]   Varun : .
[09:43]   Prakash : tnks varun
[09:45]   r m : 8400PE/8600CE volumes drying up
[09:46]   Varun : relevance ?
[09:46]   r m : normally option volumes perk up when breakout is imminent
[09:47]   r m : I have to study options na, can’t trade those huge futures after november 🙂
[09:47]   Varun : 🙂
[09:47]   Varun : 😉
[09:48]   Varun : vwap held after gap
[09:48]   Varun : value abv pre vah
[09:48]   Varun : bullish
[09:50]   r m : last two hours auction was in 8475-8505 range yesterday,
[09:50]   r m : has stayed above that
[09:51]   Varun : best buy would be a quick fall to 8505
[09:51]   Varun : with vol spike
[09:53]   Varun : 🙂
[09:53]   r m : half wish granted 🙂
[09:53]   Varun : didnt even get the spike
[09:53]   Varun : so will wait
[09:54]   Varun : but spike is ready see it
[09:54]   RK : very narrow IB..better to wait and watch which way they want to expand IB in another 15-20 mins
[09:55]   Vikkas C : what is the red line in 5 mins chart just abv the lower vwap band
[09:55]   Varun : yup another sign dnt fade
[09:55]   RK : IT pack breaking out
[09:55]   Varun : mite be wvp bands
[09:57]   Vikkas C : ok thanx varun
[10:00]   Prakash : prve cls !!
[10:01]   r m : Thanks Prakash!
[10:01]   RK : its not close as we closed @8488 levels
[10:01]   Varun : no its nt prv cloe
[10:02]   RK : may be open price as Shai prefers to keep a watch on where it opens..
[10:02]   RK : rather a close
[10:02]   r m : open is 8504
[10:03]   r m : 8487 is IB extn projection
[10:03]   Vikkas C : yes looks like its open price
[10:07]   Deepak : @Varun, How is BNF loking
[10:07]   r m : small IB, even PDL is greater then 4 IB!!
[10:07]   Varun : very range bound bnf
[10:08]   Varun : but if we stay like this today
[10:08]   Varun : in bnf
[10:08]   Varun : tmrw could be a big trend day
[10:08]   Deepak : Okay..
[10:08]   Vikkas C : 8540 and 18940 varun..lvls to watch
[10:09]   Varun : my gf if we dnt break out on upside in nf today, bulls doing a bad job
[10:09]   Varun : we could be doing a downtrand day tmrw’
[10:10]   Vikkas C : a test of yesterday buyers @ 8410-8420 types are u hinting at varun
[10:10]   Varun : and then 8330
[10:10]   Vikkas C : ok cool ..thanx brotha
[10:10]   Varun : i want tht to once to see wht hapns after tht
[10:10]   Varun : tht to go
[10:11]   Vikkas C : what will happen once it brks 8330 😀
[10:11]   Varun : 4 attempts have been faded
[10:11]   Varun : doubt we would be able to fade this time
[10:15]   Varun : shai absent tdy ?
[10:16]   Ashish : Varun, spike in BNF
[10:17]   Varun : ya
[10:17]   Varun : but dnt know the ref
[10:17]   Varun : as dnt track it
[10:17]   Ashish : Ok varun
[10:17]   Vikkas C : why dont many profilers dont folow BNF
[10:18]   Vikkas C : any reason ?
[10:18]   r m : (*** Private to Varun ) Shai delayed at routine health check
[10:18]   Varun : alrite 🙂
[10:18]   Varun : hope all is well
[10:19]   RK : 18809 yvwap
[10:19]   r m : Yes Varun, all is well 🙂
[10:22]   RK : BNF spike worked for 50 points sofar
[10:24]   Ashish : Yes RK..
[10:24]   Ashish : Again spike is developing in BNF
[10:33]   Deepak : Hypo 1) If NF auctions above 8533 then it could move to 8573 . Sl for this view 8488.
[10:33]   Deepak : Soon to get into picture ?
[10:36]   Vikkas C : FA auction do Rm and take it back to 8440 and then revisit to 8530 😉
[10:38]   r m : maja aa jayega phir to 🙂
[10:42]   RK : Guys dont do this 100 round trip every day..running out of trousers 🙂
[10:43]   RK : yday your quota is over for such round trips 🙂
[10:43]   Varun : whts vix
[10:43]   r m : 16.06
[10:44]   Varun : thnks rm
[10:45]   Varun : those who watch vix, wht avg, low anf high in tht
[10:46]   Varun : rk abv ib, back to vwap 🙂
[10:46]   RK : back to vwap..so r/e from here good trade..right Varun?
[10:46]   RK : yeah missed entry by 50 paisa 🙂
[10:46]   Varun : i traded mrkt
[10:46]   Varun : :0
[10:46]   Varun : 🙂
[10:46]   RK : yeah me getting poor by paisas now a days 🙂
[10:46]   r m : @RK, NF behaving like a mouse today – http://screencast.com/t/AnXL6F4p
[10:47]   Varun : b low it seems
[10:47]   Varun : ib
[10:47]   RK : somehow had a habbit of limit,SL orders..cant tweak myself quickly into mkt orders 🙂
[10:47]   RK : BNF 2 spikes consequtively and both have given 50 each
[10:48]   RK : RM looks snail to me 🙂
[10:48]   Varun : rk told u , u will stop stoks
[10:48]   Varun : stocks
[10:48]   Tejpreet : Ib high to vwap tarde 8600 put 118 to 128 …thanks for the gyan varun.
[10:49]   r m : @RK, yeah 🙂
[10:49]   Varun : man this is magic
[10:49]   Varun : have u noticed the win ratio @tej , rk
[10:50]   Tejpreet : for me roughly 70% as my sl is very close otherwise can be higher.
[10:50]   RK : yep except that Friday move, worked all the time..
[10:50]   RK : when you get two stops a day, just stop swimmin against tide..thats it..
[10:51]   RK : its better to use it effectively after 2 pm I mean with larger position
[10:51]   Tejpreet : But problem is after you take your 10 points …market says dude i wanted to give 50 and you walked away.
[10:52]   Varun : stop is 10 points
[10:52]   Varun : u get 15/20, tht makes it 1:1.5 rr with 1:4 loss/win
[10:52]   RK : Tej but it all depends on RR..so its better to have 15 with 10 stop 4/5 times instead of getting 50 points 2/5 times with 25 points stop
[10:53]   Varun : its a well, take ur bucket or u’ll drown 🙂
[10:53]   r m : @Tejpreet, try Kris’s 25% theory, he never books out the whole thing, always trails some part and tightens the stop when it gets dicey 🙂
[10:54]   Tejpreet : exactly RK am comfortable doing these 10 points multiple time a day.
[10:54]   Tejpreet : RM in BO it is difficult to book part.
[10:54]   r m : yes
[10:54]   r m : it is all or none in BO 🙂
[10:55]   Tejpreet : But BO is boon as SL is must 😉
[10:55]   Varun : looking fr a buy here
[10:55]   Varun : if we retest
[10:55]   r m : yeah, most dangerous thing about options is the hope 🙂
[10:56]   Tejpreet : Market and hope are like north pole and south pole …opposite ends of spectrum but then opposites attract 🙂
[10:56]   r m : 🙂
[10:58]   Porus : Varun, retest of?
[10:59]   Shai : GM all
[11:00]   r m : GM Shai
[11:00]   Ashish : GM Shai
[11:00]   RK : Porus retest of the low made
[11:00]   Porus : GM Shai
[11:00]   RK : GM Shai
[11:00]   Porus : RK thanks
[11:00]   RK : we are keeping the indices in lower IB and VWAP Shai 🙂
[11:01]   Chandrashekhar : GM Shai
[11:01]   RK : I mean narrow IB 🙂
[11:01]   Vikkas C : GM shai
[11:01]   Shai : slowish day?
[11:02]   r m : understatement 🙂
[11:02]   Shai : looks ike they will repair the orderflow imbalance between 8505- 8540 today?
[11:03]   Prakash : gm shai
[11:13]   Shai : Buy NF 8504 sl of 8480 tgt 8533
[11:15]   Deepak : GM Shai
[11:18]   Suyash : Is anyone having an issue with Zerodha NEST?
[11:19]   Kiran : very fast refresh showing. flickers.
[11:19]   RK : Kiran it may be due to the lag in internet connection
[11:20]   RK : loss in packets may sometimes shows such flashes
[11:20]   Kiran : yes. working on photon with clouds in the sky.
[11:21]   r m : yes, that bunched up data starts flowing, guess NEST can’t discard the data when connection misses, it pours everything in when given a chance 🙂
[11:21]   Sankar : Omnovia is better. just blames the moderators 🙂 lol.
[11:21]   Sankar : GM Shai :).
[11:21]   RK : true RM
[11:22]   r m : @Sankar, 🙂
[11:30]   Varun : yesterday poc/wap at 8485
[11:31]   Varun : it gets bearish below tht
[11:31]   Varun : balnce vwap/poc
[11:33]   Shai : yes
[11:34]   Shai : has to come back abv IBL also
[11:34]   RK : BNF below VAL
[11:34]   r m : ok
[11:35]   Kiran : Shai BNF band expanded, any short trigger ?
[11:36]   Varun : first sign of weakness vwap band expanded from 8505 to 8490
[11:36]   Varun : nd bnow even below
[11:37]   Shai : Kiran getting buying supp- bnf
[11:37]   Kiran : ok
[11:38]   RK : narrow IB and range extension, IBL and VWAP auction will decide about a trend Shai?
[11:40]   Shai : That is also the “Varun trade” in BNf
[11:40]   Shai : works better in BNF from my obs
[11:40]   Varun : hmm
[11:40]   Varun : nf prboe 16
[11:40]   Varun : on
[11:41]   RK : NF that 10 point stop held
[11:41]   Varun : shai so i need to lower my screen then 😉
[11:41]   Shai : BNF crosses vwap- can leave an FA behind
[11:42]   Bhagya : how is the order flow in nifty fut bw 8491-8500 zone. can any one help me.
[11:42]   Bhagya : was there any big buying support at lower levels at 8491 or no?
[11:42]   Shai : so far on intra day- selling is missing below 8500
[11:43]   Shai : yesterday was neutral in this zone
[11:43]   Bhagya : thanks…
[11:43]   RK : 8496 VAH and 8483 yvwap Bhagya..so good support zone there when you see green delta at bottom
[11:45]   Bhagya : great learning
[11:46]   Bhagya : thanks a lot for all kind hearted experienced traders for giving this wonderful support
[11:46]   Bhagya : shai & RK….
[11:46]   Shai : @Bhagya welcome to the board-
[11:48]   Chandrashekhar : today my first day at this forum, hope it will be a long journey of learning and earning
[11:49]   Kiran : Shai the blue volume is delta in volume or just volume of 5 min ?
[11:49]   Shai : Welcome Chandrashekhar
[11:50]   Shai : blue volume?
[11:50]   Kiran : yes shai.
[11:51]   Kiran : bottom blue
[11:51]   Shai : Buyers are there in NF but they will struggle if vwap not crossed
[11:52]   Shai : that is only volume
[11:53]   Kiran : ok, so in BNF volume reducing but delta red increasing, how to interpret?
[11:54]   Kiran : if u r buy we can discuss later.
[11:54]   Kiran : busy.*
[11:54]   Shai : delta would mean that there are more aggressive sellers in that vol
[11:55]   Shai : exit the NF long trade is stop is hit
[11:56]   Vikkas C : RM the play is happening 😉
[11:56]   Shai : NF stop
[11:57]   r m : @Vikkas 🙂
[11:59]   Vikkas C : seller trapped @ 44976
[12:00]   John : @Shai, 80% rule in play?
[12:00]   John : inNF?
[12:00]   Vikkas C : spike in volume,delta lesser then previous candle..is a a good scalp long trade shai ??
[12:01]   Shai : John may come back to vah/ IBL
[12:01]   Shai : we reassess there
[12:01]   Shai : or below 8475 now for short
[12:01]   John : Ok Shai, Thanks!
[12:02]   Shai : Yes Vikkas in NF and BNF also
[12:03]   Shai : potential touch of IBL is the profit trigger
[12:05]   Shai : Sell NF below 8475 tgt 8452 sl of 8504
[12:05]   Vikkas C : cool thanx shai ..not trading it but wanting to understand the concept 🙂
[12:06]   Shai : spike
[12:06]   Shai : missed it
[12:06]   Chandrashekhar : could not even take the trade
[12:08]   Vikkas C : look at that buyer at the low
[12:08]   Chandrashekhar : shai what is that 0X0 from 8475 till 8466 indiactes, no trade took place there
[12:09]   Varun : sar @rk , missed on friday but not today
[12:09]   Varun : #learnfromistakes
[12:09]   Varun : whoever reminded of 80 5 thanks
[12:09]   Varun : 80 %
[12:10]   Varun : thanks
[12:10]   Varun : gave me an extra 15
[12:10]   RK : 🙂
[12:10]   Varun : but we are over stretched now on downside
[12:11]   John : Welcome VArun 🙂
[12:11]   Naveen : shai can we exit positional long if 8420 is hit today??
[12:11]   Varun : whts poc shai
[12:12]   Varun : 8520 ?
[12:12]   Shai : 8452
[12:13]   Varun : shai poc 8452 ?
[12:13]   Sankar : (08:53) Sankar :I thought near sterday’s closing DPOC came up. looks like its still at 8452.
[12:13]   Shai : weekly option trade : Buy 8400 ce at 115- 117, sl of 85 tgt 162/ 187
[12:18]   Bhagya : unable to see charts
[12:18]   Shai : that short slipped off our hands at 8475 – was an easy trade of 23 points
[12:19]   Shai : 8441 is supp on day
[12:19]   Tejpreet : Shai BN on way to 18510 ?
[12:20]   Shai : 18590 supp
[12:22]   Tejpreet : OK almost thre
[12:24]   Shai : seeing NF buyers show up
[12:24]   Shai : 8441 supp on day
[12:25]   Shai : also kra
[12:25]   Shai : potential move is back to 8475/ 8481
[12:26]   Shahid : Missed this on twitter
[12:26]   Shahid : 12:05 Shai : Sell NF below 8475 tgt 8452 sl of 8504
[12:28]   Shai : did not execute
[12:28]   Varun : whts vix
[12:29]   r m : 16.61
[12:29]   Varun : rm is it high or avg ?
[12:29]   Varun : wht lowest did u see till few weeks back
[12:29]   Varun : and highest
[12:31]   Shai : Keep an NF sell below 8435 sl of 8458 tgt 8411/ 8396- trade a 50% qty . sell below**
[12:31]   Varun : a trader told me vix at 12-13 means one way move
[12:31]   r m : oscilating between 15 and 17
[12:31]   Varun : vix higher means wipsaws
[12:31]   r m : http://vtrender.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/nsemo17aug.png
[12:31]   Varun : thanks rm
[12:32]   r m : welcome
[12:32]   Anay : https://www.dropbox.com/s/6qn3r7wr4avfg8x/India%20VIX%20Daily.png?dl=0
[12:34]   Shai : Recollect 8435- 8444 as the top of that 2 day balance on 12/08 and 13/08- If we probe that zone good chance of going to see upto 8370 tom if not more, hence sell below is open
[12:35]   Shai : for now we have evidence of buying and 8441 on day is imp
[12:36]   Varun : thnks anay
[12:37]   Varun : nice chart
[12:39]   Anay : welcome
[12:39]   Shai : indeed nice chart
[12:39]   RK : Varun Anay’s Chart is from Zerodha’s Pi
[12:40]   RK : nice platform for simple charts to check volume too for stocks
[12:42]   r m : @RK, check Zerodha’s Kite, it is pure html and great charts 🙂
[12:42]   r m : works on mobile too
[12:42]   RK : oh they released it!
[12:43]   r m : yes, they complained that i did not look at it, so looked up yesterday 🙂
[12:44]   RK : fine..will check..thanks
[12:44]   r m : https://kite.zerodha.com
[12:45]   VR : upstox looks cool too, ready to go live it seems
[12:45]   r m : I like Zerodha and Truedata, both very prompt in replying back to queries
[12:45]   Shai : Buy BNF abv 18725 sl of 18666 tgt 18770/ 18825
[12:46]   RK : RM but Kite login logs you out from Pi
[12:46]   Shai : BNF spiky vol trade at 18640 has worked up
[12:47]   r m : @RK, yes, only one at a time please 🙂
[12:47]   RK : 🙂
[12:49]   Tejpreet : Thnaks RM very clean charts on Kite …so many charting softwares …am trying out traders cockpit on trila they have pretty good screeners for ID trading and some good option charts.
[12:51]   r m : ok
[12:52]   r m : but I am addicted to NT, guess even if I stop trading, I’ll keep running NT 🙂
[12:52]   RK : lol
[12:52]   VR : r m saab, would bug you one day for all NT goodies. 🙂
[12:53]   r m : any day, you may have to stop me from mailing goodies 😀
[12:53]   VR : email id please. 🙂
[12:54]   r m : rmsharma@gmail.com, we keep things simple 🙂
[12:54]   Shai : 8475- (12:25) Shai :potential move is back to 8475/ 8481
[12:54]   Varun : whts vwap
[12:54]   VR : shai, any more potential on that? 🙂
[12:54]   VR : thanks rm 🙂
[12:55]   r m : @Varun 8489 on my charts
[12:55]   Varun : cool
[12:55]   r m : welcome VR
[12:55]   Varun : looking for a spike to sell thr
[12:55]   Shai : even yesterday this green delta was here but went red over 8500
[12:55]   Shai : today also from 8440 all green
[12:56]   Shai : 8488 is the anomaly
[12:56]   Varun : yup
[12:56]   Deepak : Shai, i have a NF long, it didt went off due to that no order zone… Had a SL at 8473
[12:56]   Varun : pivot point + trend + spike is awesome
[12:56]   RK : Man they deal in spikes today 🙂
[12:56]   Deepak : Cost at 8492
[12:56]   Hemant : 8475 done 🙂
[12:57]   Shai : tgt 1 done BNF- 12:45) Shai :Buy BNF abv 18725 sl of 18666 tgt 18770/ 18825. Move sl to 18710 on day
[12:57]   Varun : if tht worls we could probe day low again from thr
[12:57]   Shai : if we cross vwap in BNF this is a potential multi bagger
[12:57]   Hemant : Shai, 8500 CE is good for the week along with 8400 CE?
[12:58]   Sandeep : and whats the vwap shai
[12:58]   Sandeep : in bn
[12:58]   Shai : Deepak that long is not safe on intra till we cross abv vwap
[12:59]   Deepak : vwap is at ?
[12:59]   Shai : 8491/ 18780
[12:59]   Deepak : a, t my cost
[12:59]   Deepak : okay… thanks
[13:04]   Shai : BNF tsl hit- flat now
[13:04]   Tejpreet : Shanhai down 6.5 % …all yuan devaluation down the drain 🙂
[13:04]   Tejpreet : Shanghai
[13:05]   r m : They can always devalue it more 🙂
[13:05]   Tejpreet : Yes let them devalue it and let us break 8435 .
[13:06]   r m : I remember when rupee was not convertible, there used to be such a big issue over its devaluation 🙂
[13:06]   Tejpreet : It looks like currency wars are a proxy for stock markets.
[13:07]   r m : basically they are export wars 🙂
[13:07]   r m : how to capture markets with low cost products
[13:10]   Shahid : Shai, was there no signs of selling near 8500-8510 as per order flow, that there was a buy call?
[13:10]   Tejpreet : The biggest controller of china stock market are retail traders , according to one data 85 % trades are of retail traders.
[13:11]   Nishant : don’t underestimate the power of chinese common man ! 😛
[13:12]   VR : NF premium is flat. been a while
[13:16]   Manthan : Invitation to Bears???
[13:18]   VR : nothing like that.
[13:22]   Shai : Shahid the technical 80% rule always gets it’s way
[13:24]   Hemant : Shai 8500 CE tgt for the week?
[13:25]   Prakash : shai is it possible for you to post daily FP chart
[13:26]   r m : @Prakash, already being posted on blog
[13:26]   Shai : 8500 ce sl of 45 tgt 96/ 102- safe abv 67 cross
[13:27]   Hemant : Ok Shai many thanks
[13:27]   r m : @Prakash, http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-and-notes-170815/
[13:30]   Prakash : i mean full day consolidated FP, like daily candle.
[13:32]   r m : ok
[13:34]   Shai : @Prakash, vols do not change whichever TF you look at them in
[13:34]   Prakash : if one more daily chart to show last 2 weeks FP, means lot of information abt OTF may be arrived. @shai, @rm, @varun
[13:34]   r m : on the left side of 30 minute charts you will find ask/bids totalled up for the day
[13:35]   r m : oops
[13:35]   r m : not on this chart
[13:37]   Vikkas C : no trades open here right ?
[13:39]   Suyash : today’s a DD trend day?
[13:39]   Vikkas C : poor high or FA at the top today in NF ..shai can u pls confirm ?
[13:41]   Shai : No only for intra day- structure is inside
[13:42]   Vikkas C : ok thanx
[13:42]   Nishant : second subsequent inside day after friday’s huge up move
[13:43]   Shai : Yes Suyash we are seeing a DD
[13:45]   Suyash : ok shai
[13:47]   Shai : old buyer trying his best to lift up
[13:47]   Shai : same trade at 8451 sl of 8439 tgt 8474
[13:47]   Shai : vol spike one
[13:48]   Varun : rite at val
[13:48]   Varun : but gave it a miss
[13:48]   Varun : cos trend was down
[13:49]   Shai : DD- looking for a roation back to 74
[13:49]   Shai : rotation*
[13:49]   RK : but Varun we have extn handle below VWAP..so good chance to hold it also..and best place for SAR too..right?
[13:49]   RK : *below VAL
[13:49]   Varun : this is like the 3rd-4th attempt at 45
[13:50]   Varun : at such cases i look for retest
[13:50]   RK : so you feel they will break it down
[13:50]   Varun : and vol shld be damn low in tht test, so to cut off supply
[13:50]   Varun : now this 45 re test shld be adry one
[13:51]   RK : ok
[13:51]   Varun : if this is also with spik expect a fast finger 20/30 down
[13:53]   Varun : prv supply came in at 61
[13:53]   Varun : abv it it is safe
[13:55]   Shai : BNF abv 18710 again
[13:55]   Shai : I don’t want to be beraish till 18650- 18710 hold sin BNF
[13:56]   Shai : seeing 3 days of buyng here
[14:03]   Shai : almost done – (13:47) Shai :same trade at 8451 sl of 8439 tgt 8474
[14:03]   Varun : nice one
[14:03]   Tejpreet : Done and booked ..good one Shai.
[14:03]   RK : yes closed after seeing spike there
[14:04]   Varun : no rk tht spike was good
[14:04]   RK : yep realised it later
[14:04]   Varun : if u brak a supply zone without vol its fake
[14:04]   Varun : as i saw 61 going with good vol i knew this is a good one
[14:04]   Varun : hvae to analyse spike at rite ref points
[14:05]   Varun : tht spike was rite a t val
[14:05]   Varun : meant buyers defending it
[14:05]   Varun : morning spike was rite abv ib high meanst sellers sending back
[14:06]   RK : yes VAL pushed to hit F1 there
[14:06]   Varun : this is closing at lows
[14:06]   Varun : rite rejection at singles
[14:07]   Varun : 76-88 is otf area
[14:07]   Varun : thy will defend it
[14:14]   Kiran : shai any trade in BNF ? seeing Buyers in last few candles.
[14:15]   Varun : previous trapped buyer being protected
[14:15]   Varun : is strength
[14:15]   Varun : lets see wht hpns at 88
[14:15]   RK : racing ahead clearing all obstacles
[14:16]   Shai : BNF 🙁
[14:16]   Kiran : sorry
[14:17]   Shai : Oh not for u Kiran
[14:17]   Shai : BNf was a long trade again as the 12.45 view- same tgt same sl once abv 18715
[14:17]   Kiran : ok
[14:18]   Prakash : shai can u increase view of 30 min BNF chart
[14:18]   Kiran : now at vWAP touch can enter ?
[14:18]   Shai : just got preoccupied with a call from my RM
[14:18]   Varun : my is the key word here
[14:18]   r m : lol
[14:18]   Shai : yes – good abv 18710 now
[14:23]   Deepak : Shai, NF- can i hld or should i look to exit
[14:24]   Shai : BNF is a carry again
[14:24]   Shai : Nic epull back- cahnges the game again
[14:24]   Shai : Deppak hold
[14:24]   Shai : deepak*
[14:25]   Deepak : Okay, Thanks
[14:25]   Shai : 18934 possible BNF
[14:26]   Shai : chance of it going through the upper DD is there abv 8485
[14:27]   Shai : 8400 ce at 135
[14:28]   Hemant : Shai, what dip to add more?
[14:28]   Shai : just one chance to go to 8520 till abv 8480
[14:29]   Shai : else avoid long today below 8480
[14:37]   Shai : hesistation at vwap in NF
[14:37]   Tejpreet : BN a buy at vwap for close at high.
[14:37]   Shai : could be we see another close here
[14:37]   Shai : yes Tej but sl is deep below 18710
[14:38]   Shai : can’t give a trade alert as sl not manageable with the moves
[14:38]   Tejpreet : Yes got it .Thanks.
[14:51]   Varun : dd turned into normal day
[14:51]   Varun : inside
[14:52]   Tejpreet : Does it mean a trending move tmrw ?
[14:52]   Varun : whener we out of this 8440/8550
[14:53]   Varun : mite be on friday
[14:53]   Tejpreet : OK Varun but my GF whenever and whichever direction it happens will be a gap move.
[14:54]   Varun : my guts with down
[14:54]   Shai : sellers have emerged stronger after today at 8520
[14:54]   Tejpreet : Same here …but we will gap down below 8440.
[14:54]   Shai : the buyer at 8440- 50 is the only support now
[14:54]   Varun : another attempt at 8440 wont hold
[14:54]   Shai : true
[14:55]   Varun : and tht opens 8350
[14:55]   Shai : just thought 1 test to 8520 will come abv vah- but the seller holding up there
[14:55]   Shai : big message
[14:55]   Varun : whts vwap of the series
[14:56]   Shai : Book out 8400 ce weekly call at cmp- we will review later
[14:56]   Varun : shai whts vwap of the series
[14:58]   Shai : 8508 dev vwap aug series NF
[14:58]   Varun : thnks shai
[14:59]   Tejpreet : Shai like 8440 level on nifty is 18590 on BN to look out for break on downside?
[14:59]   Varun : bulls had a nice chnce to break out after a gap and val near vah today
[14:59]   Varun : missed
[15:00]   Varun : after trand day over lap profile is mostly end of move
[15:00]   Varun : trend
[15:00]   Varun : hapnd now twice in a row
[15:00]   Varun : we had a range extension to 2 ib today
[15:00]   Varun : break 8440 yaar
[15:00]   Varun : i could nt convince u more 😉
[15:01]   Varun : most of breakout players badly bruised in last 3 days
[15:02]   Tejpreet : Question now is who is weaker the bull or the bear as both are not doing a good job 😉
[15:02]   r m : Shai’s wall (made from Ambuja cement) at 8441 needs to be broken down 🙂
[15:02]   Varun : no bulls had a trend with them
[15:02]   Varun : thy have to capitalise on it
[15:03]   Varun : bears doing a great job by nt letting them run away
[15:03]   Varun : come down with little vol
[15:03]   Varun : kuch toh sharam karo
[15:03]   Varun : yeh thora utha
[15:04]   Tejpreet : Great so let us have a gap down tmrw .
[15:05]   Varun : imp candle
[15:05]   Varun : will decide closea t lows or vwap
[15:06]   Kiran : u r talking about current one ? Varun
[15:06]   Varun : yup
[15:06]   Kiran : but many red delta
[15:07]   Varun : at btm
[15:07]   Varun : shld be at top
[15:07]   Varun : i think the 19075 just exited at 8470
[15:08]   Varun : so its vwap
[15:09]   Tejpreet : Shai time to carry some speculative puts at close.
[15:10]   Shai : only speculative
[15:10]   Shai : we are still in balance – so it is theoretically wait time
[15:11]   Shai : we reduced the weekly call as now trade became 50- 50 here
[15:11]   Tejpreet : Yes small quantity 8400 put ….looking for a gap down or out first thing in the morning.
[15:12]   Shai : 2 days in balance now but volume suggesting one more day of wait
[15:12]   Manthan : MO??? RMji
[15:12]   r m : let me check
[15:12]   Tejpreet : Thanks for the update Shai.
[15:14]   r m : MO at -17
[15:14]   Hemant : Close all positions Shai, I am assuming no convincing BTST today
[15:14]   Hemant : Closed* I meant
[15:15]   Shai : No BTST
[15:16]   Hemant : 🙂
[15:16]   Manthan : thanks RMji:)
[15:17]   r m : 🙂
[15:20]   Bhagya : I am new to market profile and order flow analysis. Keen to learn a lot and end result of earning should happen. I have read mind over markets. any other learning materials for advanced market profile plz
[15:21]   Bhagya : awaiting reply from Market profile wizards here…
[15:22]   Deepak : Max premiuma the close on Futures , any views
[15:22]   Deepak : Shai, i booked out at 8485.
[15:23]   Kiran : bhagya , do read every day hypo notes by Shai.
[15:23]   Bhagya : I am doing from today
[15:23]   Kiran : also take notes from chat room to a file. Whenever I can , I am doing,
[15:24]   Bhagya : but for learning from scratch I cannot trouble experienced traders. Want to know on hypo too any good materials or books to read. The best and advanced ones
[15:24]   Bhagya : answer from RM or Shai
[15:25]   Bhagya : or any one here following market profile, hypo and order flow for long time
[15:25]   Kiran : shai BNF buyers at good volume ?
[15:26]   Shai : BNf one probe up is pending to 18900 post recovery abv 18710- may come tom near open
[15:26]   Shai : NF flat at vwap for 2nd straight day
[15:26]   Shai : balance
[15:27]   Shai : @Bhagya go with Steidlmayer
[15:27]   Anay : @Bhagya watch videos on Dalton’s YouTube channel’
[15:27]   Shai : he is level 2 if you are done with Mind over markets
[15:28]   Anay : https://www.youtube.com/user/jdaltontrading
[15:28]   Shai : it is a huge subject- it takes many people a few years to grasp it fully
[15:30]   Anay : bye all
[15:30]   Ashish : Thanks and Bye all
[15:30]   r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great evening 🙂
[15:30]   Tejpreet : Bye All.
[15:30]   Vikkas C : bye all
[15:30]   John : Thanks & bye all
[15:30]   Sankar : Bye All :).
[15:30]   Shai : Bye all
[15:30]   Porus : bye all
[15:30]   Shai : Have a nice evening
[15:30]   Prakash : bye@ varun @ shai @ RM
[15:30]   Moses : Bye all
[15:31]   Bhagya : thanks shaiji and all my team people. Good day.

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Room Name: Vtrender
Date and Time: August 18, 2015 08:36:23

[09:24]   Sumit K : Shai – Adani Ports levels
[09:25]   r m : (*** Private to Sumit K) Hi Sumit, Shai will be joining late today
[09:54]   Gaurav : How do DVR and Sun Tv look Shai positional?
[10:04]   r m : @Gaurav, Shai will join us soon
[10:05]   Vikkas C : @RK do u follow maruti..looks like getting tired now ?
[10:09]   Manthan : Shai, TCS??
[10:10]   RK : Vikkas would short it below 4500 if volumes supports
[10:11]   Vikkas C : i was looking at 4480 types on hourly close for a 100 rs drop
[10:12]   RK : ok
[10:17]   RK : HDFC chart can somebody check and confirm that you all have that volume tower in 2676..looks huge vol there in F?
[10:17]   RK : *1276
[10:19]   Vikkas C : yes RK
[10:20]   Ashish : RK, any views on ACC?
[10:21]   RK : Ashish its a buy above 1385 today but deferred the entry as it was in a tight range for last few days..
[10:21]   RK : will buy now above 1393
[10:22]   Ashish : OK RK, I am in @ 1392…Thanks
[10:24]   Vikkas C : @RK whats ur take on L&T..sorry for bothering u sir 🙂
[10:25]   RK : Sir, no sir pls ..I hate calling people Sir 🙂
[10:25]   RK : LT bought at 1801 Vikkas
[10:25]   RK : but me less convinced with my buy side today..lets see how it goes 🙂
[10:26]   Ashish : RK, any target levels you are looking in ACC?
[10:27]   Vikkas C : ok gr8 ..even i was looking to buy at 1800 lvlc but gave up ..
[10:27]   Vikkas C : and thanx RK
[10:28]   RK : Welcome
[10:30]   r m : @RK, HDFC Fut weekly Volume profiles
[10:30]   r m : http://screencast.com/t/VxyG9wXVR2Fu
[10:32]   RK : Ashish, am keeping SL for ACC 1380 F for intra and 1360 for swing till weekend..fyi
[10:32]   RK : thanks RM
[10:32]   r m : welcome 🙂
[10:32]   Ashish : Thanks RK
[10:35]   RK : RM, its below weekly VAL..if HVN dont pull it up, then you can push it from peak thorugh LVNs 🙂
[10:35]   r m : 🙂
[10:35]   Vikkas C : maruti is soon developing a habit of jump starting its engine :p
[10:36]   r m : 😀
[10:36]   RK : Vikkas it has been massive study man..cant touch once quit around 3900..very very bad exit 🙁
[10:36]   RK : *steady
[10:38]   Vikkas C : i had entered @ 3990 with a 20 point SL..and must say got 250 points and since then sitting on sidelines 🙁 and itching to take a trade in it since long ..
[10:39]   Vikkas C : watta move in tisco man ..totally taken by surrpise ..and commodities are stuck in a bad range
[10:39]   RK : it will come down..lets wait..normally after a sustained rally, I will skip my first sell entry..it mostly whips..it will again make one high and second sell would move it down..
[10:40]   RK : recent example is DR..skiped first sell and next sell around 4250 worked
[10:40]   Vikkas C : woah..thanx for the heads up RK
[10:41]   RK : Tisco also skipped buy entry..GF we will get another sell below 245 in a day or two and we will meet that 230 again..lets see
[10:44]   Vikkas C : waiting for it RK 🙂
[10:48]   Vikkas C : ashok leyland what a move ..brilliant
[11:22]   Shai : adani at a supply band but no showing immediate weakness
[11:22]   Shai : intra day still good abv 360 but may get resisted at 378 as week runs by
[11:23]   RK : Shai HDFC good to hold for 1255?
[11:24]   Shai : TTM dvr hlding 233 this week can run up to 259. A weekly close abv 260 is positive
[11:26]   Shai : suntv 372 is res – will be weak if it closes today below 348 –
[11:27]   Shai : tcs strong move but 2750 is weekly res here
[11:29]   Shai : hdfc intra day supp at 1267 . avoid shorts if it closes abv 272 today
[11:29]   RK : fine..thanks
[11:30]   Shai : please let me know f I missed any query
[11:44]   Ashish : Shai, HPCL resistance levels?
[11:50]   Vikkas C : shai does kotak look good to short for 685
[12:20]   Rahul N : @shai can we buy sbi @day lows ,intraday?
[12:21]   Shai : Hind petro res at 886/ 891
[12:21]   Shai : Not weak hindpetro till 874 breaks
[12:22]   Shai : Kotak has supp at 685
[12:22]   Shai : Kotak supp at 705**
[12:22]   Vikkas C : thanx shai
[12:22]   Ashish : Thanks Shai
[12:23]   Shai : sbi buy abv 282.5 cash only – any more weakness here may fall to 275
[12:23]   Shai : safe abv 282.9 intra
[12:24]   Rahul N : thanks
[12:26]   Manthan : TCS???
[12:27]   Shai : (11:27) Shai :tcs strong move but 2750 is weekly res here
[12:27]   Shai : supp 2713/ 2698
[12:52]   Tejpreet : Shai DLF ready for shorting now ?
[13:01]   Shai : dlf 124 a positional supp
[13:02]   Tejpreet : Thanks Shai.
[13:08]   Hemant : Shai, what sthe resistance on Yes bank today?
[13:11]   Sumit K : Shai – Tata Elxsi levels
[13:27]   Shai : yesbank 794 res supp at 781
[13:28]   Hemant : Ty Shai
[13:30]   Shai : tata elxsi well abv 1936 now- look for 2095/ 2150 into sept
[13:30]   Shai : close abv 1930 is new support
[13:31]   Sumit K : Thnx Shai
[13:32]   Shai : weekly tgt is 2050- withi range on these vols
[13:36]   Shai : Vol alert coming in indusind bank
[13:36]   Shai : tataelxsi- who bought here???
[13:37]   Shai : bloody hell- was 1960 just now 2033 now
[13:37]   Sumit K : I sold
[13:37]   Shai : 2043
[13:37]   Shai : amazing vols
[13:37]   Shai : 2050 🙂
[13:38]   Shai : 5 mins back: (13:32) Shai :weekly tgt is 2050- withi range on these vols
[13:38]   RK : weekly tgt in 5 mins lol..so better announce monthly target also Shai 🙂
[13:39]   RK : who knows whats cooking!
[13:39]   r m : 🙂
[13:39]   Hemant : 🙂
[13:39]   RK : Indus vol alert for long or short Shai?..pvt banks seems under performing BNF
[13:40]   Shai : long for 978
[13:40]   RK : fine
[13:45]   Manthan : Sl for Indus??
[13:48]   Shai : 942
[13:51]   Manthan : cool, got in
[13:53]   Vikkas C : shai can u pls chk lupin ..
[13:53]   Vikkas C : positional shorts and lvls
[13:57]   Manthan : Indus:)
[14:03]   Shai : Vol is King 🙂
[14:04]   Shai : Lupin is weak today
[14:05]   Shai : close below 1755 confirms the wekness for 1718 nd 1680 with sl abv 1790
[14:05]   Shai : a further fall from here can still bring 1729 by close
[14:05]   Vikkas C : gr8 thanx shai
[14:07]   RK : and Maruti prints another 100..4600
[14:08]   Vikkas C : its on another lvl RK..gone crazy
[14:09]   Naveen : shai intellect designs views please??
[14:09]   RK : Shai BPL 900 possible intra and its done for the day?
[14:09]   RK : BPCL
[14:16]   Manthan : INDUSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[14:20]   Ashish : Shai, HPCl resistance above 891?
[14:22]   Shai : Naveen NSE code pls?
[14:23]   Shai : 918- 922
[14:23]   Shai : you were long? I though you were looking for shorts earler hence mentioned not weak till below 874
[14:24]   Ashish : Yes Shai, long positions
[14:24]   Ashish : Thanks
[14:26]   Manthan : indusssssssssss
[14:26]   Manthan : Exit 972
[14:26]   Manthan : 🙂
[14:27]   Tejpreet : Same here Manthan …nice alert Shai .Thanks.
[14:27]   Manthan : yup
[14:28]   Shai : cheers
[14:30]   Manthan : Yes, Qty was Awesome
[14:30]   Hemant : Manthan great trade!
[14:30]   Manthan : Now Holding BN 18670 buy price
[14:32]   Sumit K : Shai – look at Tata Elxsi
[14:33]   r m : did the discover gold? 🙂
[14:33]   r m : *they
[14:33]   Shai : Awesome Sumit- am amazed
[14:33]   Shai : sept????- (13:30) Shai :tata elxsi well abv 1936 now- look for 2095/ 2150 into sept
[14:34]   Shai : That vol alert triggered at 1936 just when you spoke about it
[14:39]   Manthan : Shai, Yesbank view??
[14:43]   r m : “(13:27) Shai :yesbank 794 res supp at 781”
[14:44]   Manthan : Thanks RM ji
[14:45]   Manthan : Above 794???
[14:46]   r m : let us wait for Shai for that 🙂
[14:46]   Manthan : cool sirji
[14:50]   Shai : 806/ 822
[14:53]   Manthan : ok shai, thanks
[15:16]   Tejpreet : (12:27) Shai :(11:27) Shai :tcs strong move but 2750 is weekly res here. Taking tcs 2650 put at 9 odd now let us see how it turns ….SL is already built in the price 🙂
[15:20]   Shai : syngene has suggested last week here at 305- at 365 now
[15:21]   Shai : keep talking about your stocks hitting alerts guys, we can pick up the thread later and it is a good exercise to know good stocks
[15:22]   Tejpreet : +1 for that Shai we need to discuss our alerts here.
[15:30]   Shai : tata elxsi hit circiut
[15:30]   Shai : ++