General Chat Transcript
Date and Time: June 24, 2015 09:19:05
[08:50] r m : Good Morning folks!
[08:50] r m : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-23rd-june-2/
[08:50] r m : http://vtrender.com/premium/orderflow-charts-and-notes-230615/
[08:50] Mohul : Good M orning all
[08:50] r m : http://vtrender.com/option-values-dt-230615/
[08:50] Sankar : GM All 🙂
[08:50] Porus : GM RM and all
[08:51] Sankar : New to this room. Novice trader, not much familiar with MP/Orderflow etc. Hopeing to learn more.
[08:51] r m : Hi Porus
[08:51] r m : Welcome Sankar
[08:51] Sankar : Tx RM 🙂
[08:52] r m : Nifty JUN Future levels | Key Reference Area 8404 | Hypo1 above 8404➜8426➜8443 SL 8372 | Hypo2 below 8358➜8334➜8285 SL 8389
[08:52] r m : Banknifty JUN Future levels | KRA 18474 | Hypo1 above 18474➜18552➜18632 SL 18401 | Hypo2 below 18325➜18247➜18195 SL 17406
[08:53] Shailesh : GM all
[08:53] Kathir : Hello RM sir GM
[08:54] Kathir : Hi All
[08:54] r m : Hi Kathir 🙂
[08:56] r m : correction** Hi Kathir Sir 😀
[08:57] Kathir : @RM masters dont need to call students “SIR”
[08:58] Sharad : GM all
[08:58] Vikkas C : GM all
[08:58] Kathir : Hi Sharad how welcome
[08:58] r m : @Kathir, fakegurus are allowed this luxury 🙂
[08:58] Sharad : Hi Kathir…
[08:59] Kathir : @all RM never accepts that he is a master
[09:00] r m : I am a truthful guy 🙂
[09:01] Moses : GM All
[09:01] Augustin : GM all
[09:02] Srini A : Hi everyone, GM
[09:03] John : GM all:)
[09:03] Sankar : RM sir, you have posted KRA levels above. So we all will be taking trades there? Since I am new here, better I will just watch for few days before doing anything?
[09:03] Sankar : Please bear for a while, if my questions are very novice 🙂
[09:04] r m : @Sanakar, for taking trades please follow Shai
[09:04] Sankar : Ok.
[09:04] ravi c : GM all
[09:05] Kathir : @Sankar tades will be executed after markets open and depends on how buyers and sellers react at these levels.Shai will guide us
[09:05] r m : Hypos are advance planning for trade, basically it can be read like “till NF trades above 8404 there is high probability of it reaching 8426 and 8443 provided that auction does not go below 8372”
[09:05] Sudhakar : GM Shai,RM &All friends
[09:05] Sankar : Tx Kathir. I think I will observe. Will blend in few days 🙂
[09:06] r m : Hi Sudhakar
[09:06] Kris : Gm All 🙂
[09:07] Venkatesan : gm shai, rm , kris and friends
[09:07] Sreedhar : Good morning to all..
[09:07] Suyash : Gm everyone
[09:07] r m : Hi Kris, Venkatesan 🙂
[09:08] Kathir : Hi Kris welcome 🙂
[09:08] Kris : Hi Rm, Kathir, Venkatesan!
[09:08] r m : @Kris, glad to have you back here 🙂
[09:09] Kathir : @RM glad if he is here all days 🙂
[09:09] John : @rm, can you please confirm me the yesterday’s vwap for BNF?
[09:10] Vivek K : kris the options GRANDMASTER
[09:10] Soumya : Good Morning all
[09:10] Soumya : Kris Welcome to the Room
[09:10] Kris : Thanks Rm, Kathir. Even I am happy to be in the room.
[09:10] RK : GM Shai,RM and all
[09:10] Kathir : @vivek for your Info – kris is really a chess grand master actually
[09:10] r m : Hi RK
[09:10] Kris : Thanks Soumya.
[09:11] Vivek K : yes kathir, i am aware
[09:11] Ashish : GM all
[09:11] Tejpreet : GM All.
[09:12] Kris : @Vivek – thanks.
[09:12] Manoj : GM RM
[09:12] Manoj : GM shai
[09:12] Manoj : GM all
[09:12] r m : Hi Manoj
[09:12] Sreedhar : Welcome Kris..
[09:12] Manoj : Welcome Back krish
[09:12] Kris : Thanks Sreedhar, Manoj.
[09:13] Shai : GM all
[09:13] Sreedhar : Good Morning Shai..
[09:13] Ashish : Welcome back Kris 🙂
[09:13] r m : @Kathir, your USDINR trying to climb back
[09:13] Kris : Thanks Ashish.
[09:14] Sandeep : shai should we buy at the open considering where the spot is opening
[09:14] Sharad : RM INR just correcting last big down day
[09:14] r m : Thanks Sharad
[09:14] Sharad : in a downtrend
[09:14] r m : ok
[09:15] Sharad : welcome
[09:16] Shai : seller near 8390 F again
[09:17] Augustin : @Shai – Can write 8400 CE for Intra when it atttempts 8390+ again?
[09:17] Shai : No will be risky
[09:17] Shai : 8450 CE better
[09:17] Augustin : or 8400 PE when it is near 8350/8330?
[09:17] Augustin : Ok
[09:17] Augustin : Tks
[09:19] Sudhir : gm
[09:20] Kathir : @SHAI what is new window 2 for?
[09:21] Vivek K : aurobindo new life high
[09:21] Kris : As long as 8400PE does not break 35, it has a chance to reach 75 minimum.
[09:22] Kathir : @kris Intra?
[09:23] Venkatesan : kris can i go buy pe with stop 35
[09:23] Kris : @Kathir – possible. But, I am looking at a relatively dull day today.
[09:23] Kathir : ok thanks .even I need that for a super day tomrw 🙂
[09:23] Kris : @Venkatesan – let it settle down a bit – best chance was at open near 40.
[09:23] Venkatesan : ok thank u
[09:24] Kris : Just a view – I still believe expiry will be much below 8300. May be my trades are a bit biased towards that for today and tomorrow.
[09:26] r m : OAIR in both?
[09:26] Manoj : OAIR ??
[09:26] Shai : yes OAIR
[09:27] r m : @Manoj, Open Auction Inside Range
[09:27] Kris : Disclosure: I am having 8300PE @ 14 acquired yesterday – without SL.
[09:27] Manoj : thanks
[09:27] Kris : And I bought 7900PE August at around 41-42 – expecting it to be a multi bagger! 🙂
[09:28] Kathir : wow
[09:28] Manoj : OMG Aug 7900 PE Multi Bagger
[09:28] r m : @Kris, where would you begin booking out, PDL or lower for 8300PE June?
[09:28] Manoj : means As per my astro july we will see rate hike in usa
[09:29] Sumit : GM everyone
[09:30] Shai : could be a quiet morning
[09:31] Shai : 8358 supp on day where that afternoon auction stopped and rose to 8390
[09:32] Shai : broadly same auction playing ut
[09:33] Manoj : Max pain according to me is at 18200 on bnf means +/- 25points for expiry
[09:33] Kris : @Rm – 8300PE – would want to wait till tomorrow morning.
[09:33] r m : Thanks Kris
[09:33] Soumya : @shai united spirits above 3334 – should add for 8405 and 8480?
[09:33] Sankar : @Shai So on such time, if the range is same as sterday (8358 to 8390), better to stay quite? or take trades along previous trends with SL below 8350 area.
[09:33] Kris : A gap down open might bring 8200 also!
[09:34] r m : oo la la 🙂
[09:34] Hemant : GM folks 🙂
[09:34] Kathir : sounds great
[09:34] Vivek K : shai, auro is at life high, is it worth chasing this breakout or not?
[09:36] Manoj : nf max pain is also @ 8300 +/- 10 points for expiry
[09:36] Shailesh : 3rd attempt to break out above 8399…
[09:37] r m : @RK, your hare (HUL) sprinting again 🙂
[09:37] RK : booked at 885 🙂
[09:37] Shai : I see 1460 and 1510 on auro
[09:37] r m : congrats! #onegoodtrade 🙂
[09:38] Shai : split the buy into 2 parts maybe 3 one here ad oe down below
[09:38] RK : thanks
[09:38] Shai : all good till 1360 holds
[09:39] Shai : intra day good abv 1417 which it should hold
[09:39] Vivek K : ok thanks
[09:40] Shailesh : Shai put writing taking place on strike price of 8400, 8350 and 8300..so a possible break out on cards by eod?
[09:44] Sudhir : view on tatastel making bottoms
[09:44] Soumya : Shai – United Spirits abv 8334
[09:44] Soumya : 3334
[09:44] Soumya : can add for 3405 and 3480?
[09:47] Varun : 2 bug buyers countering sellers at82-84
[09:47] Varun : lets see if they hve steam, else vol low for a breakout
[09:48] Varun : shai hve vol improved like in last 10 min or still dull
[09:48] Kris : Hi Varun!
[09:48] Varun : hi kris
[09:48] Varun : wazz up
[09:49] Varun : any tricks of ur hat ?
[09:49] Varun : clearing
[09:50] Ashish : Wockhardt is on a roll today.. Shai 1500 on cards?
[09:51] Venkatesan : gm varun
[09:51] Varun : god morning
[09:51] Varun : good
[09:51] Varun : vwap bands jumped
[09:52] Varun : some thrust in vol for sure
[09:52] Shai : Keep an NF buy abv 8404 tgt 8426/ 8443 sl of 8385
[09:52] Dharamveer : 8396 is it a Sl trigger
[09:53] Kris : Bought 8400PE at 36. SL Day low after 10.45. #intratrade
[09:53] Shai : Varun vol very poor
[09:54] Shai : hardly 6L in first 15 against an avg 12- 14L
[09:54] Varun : and wht abt last 10 mins
[09:54] Varun : vwap bands moved 10 points
[09:55] Dharamveer : long triggered shai ?
[09:56] Manoj : buy 8404 done
[09:56] Varun : ow we r in inbalance, time spent here will make this probe to 8440 look easy
[09:56] Varun : now”
[09:57] Shai : Mcdowell 3306 supp but should not come below 3333
[09:57] Shai : tgt is 3370 intra
[09:57] Shai : yes 3410 on positionals
[09:57] RK : shattering hope of bears every morning 🙂
[09:58] Soumya : thank you shai 😛
[09:58] Shai : Last 10 mins vol increasing
[09:58] RK : booking part here the weight carried from Friday 🙂
[09:58] Varun : if we re enter yesterday range, this auction would look a complete one types
[09:58] Varun : so 8394 bacha yojna for bulls
[09:59] Shai : we are into the singles of 02/06 so the upmove could be fast and then start rotating again
[09:59] RK : Varun lets hit that Shai’s final number 8450
[09:59] Chetan : shai can you please check AURO PHARMA & HUL
[09:59] Varun : 🙂
[10:00] Chetan : BOTH R LOOKING STRONG
[10:00] Soumya : @Chetan – check the chat – auro pharma view already given bro !!
[10:01] Vivek K : selan rocking
[10:01] Vivek K : oils well that ends well
[10:01] Mohan : Hi Friends, Good morning…My name is Mohan …New to this room..
[10:02] r m : Welcome Mohan
[10:02] Chetan : THANKS soumya
[10:02] Tejpreet : After yesterday spike up heromoto gives a spike down …..looks like operator driven stock rather than A group stock 🙂
[10:03] Kris : Hi Mohan, I carry an additional Krishna before your name!
[10:03] r m : and i have extras loaded on both sides 🙂
[10:03] Ashish : lol Rm
[10:03] Venkatesan : welcome mohan
[10:03] Vikkas C : TRUE tejpreet..
[10:04] Manoj : kris u r same CVKMohan frm twitter ???
[10:04] Vikkas C : luckily i booked my short trade yesterday ..didnt get to see todays low on the screen
[10:04] r m : @Manoj, yessir 🙂
[10:04] Kris : @Varun – this probably falls into my 10.00-10.45 IB extension theory.
[10:04] Varun : shai we have singles from 8440-8395, if we do it fast it will be like just probing minus developement, but if we create a balance here, wont it be super bullish ?
[10:05] Kris : Beyond 10.45, with high as SL – day low and more can be targeted!
[10:05] Tejpreet : Vikkas futures show low around 2464.
[10:05] Varun : but we didnt breal=k ib yet
[10:05] Kris : @Manoj – yes.
[10:05] Varun : ib after 10.15
[10:05] Vikkas C : it does but didnt see it ..just like yesterdays high
[10:06] Varun : my 2 paisa all shorts should come atlest below 8396
[10:06] Varun : if we are accepting region outside yesterday range, its super bullish
[10:07] Shai : Chetan auro just updated. it’s ok to take a new pharma positinal long but I will not suggest new stock expoure positional here
[10:07] Shai : MO is at 65 and that means we get a dip
[10:07] Shai : intra day is fine but large positional stock carry nt good here
[10:07] Sankar : MO?
[10:07] Kris : Friends – it might be dull for next 2 hours – a spike to hit SL in the next 40 minutes is possible – but that is fine. Will be back soon.
[10:08] Ashish : Shai, please check wockpharma upside target.
[10:08] r m : @Sankar, http://vtrender.com/desi-mo-mcclellans-oscillator-for-nse-23rd-jun-2015/
[10:08] Sankar : Tx RM.
[10:09] Ashish : Shai, reliance 1015 resistance?
[10:10] Manoj : now i feel i m @ the most safest place on this planet WRT trading we hv The Gr8 shai as good as hulk in MP knoledge then RM Krish & Hon. Varun i m not proud more than that i m very happy to Be a part of this trading room
[10:10] Shai : Keep sl for the NF trade at 8381 instead of 8385
[10:10] Ashish : Same here Manoj 🙂
[10:10] Shai : Hey thanks Manoj : (10:10) Manoj :now i feel i m @ the most safest place on this planet WRT trading we hv The Gr8 shai as good as hulk in MP knoledge then RM Krish & Hon. Varun i m not proud more than that i m very happy to Be a part of this trading room
[10:12] Soumya : shai i want to know more about MO – any place I can read?
[10:12] Shai : wock 1445 sl and can do 1480 and 1505
[10:13] Shai : looks good
[10:13] Shai : All pharma moving up again
[10:13] Chetan : what is MO?
[10:13] Ashish : Thanks Shai..
[10:13] r m : @Soumya http://tinyurl.com/7dg3f37
[10:14] Venkatesan : @yes manoj
[10:14] Varun : shai mo ends its jounrey with a flush out day, still awaited
[10:14] Varun : most times
[10:15] Shai : yes + expiry factor also there ths time
[10:15] Shai : 80 is possible
[10:15] Varun : 80 will be fun
[10:15] Varun : man 8100-8200 puts could tripple
[10:16] Shai : Seeing BNF in a sleep mode today
[10:16] Shai : 18325- 18465 range still from yesterday
[10:16] Shai : in value
[10:16] Shai : back in a few mins
[10:16] Vikkas C : SHAI views on bajaj auto ?
[10:16] Varun : we hve a buyer trapped at 8408 and seller at 8396
[10:16] Varun : lets see who gives in first
[10:17] Manoj : varun see in bnf 21225 @18415
[10:18] Varun : yup, if bnf turns pink, he wil hve tought time
[10:18] Varun : but since today being wednesday, clearing also needs to be taken
[10:18] Varun : mite be he converted to july
[10:19] Varun : bt nt visible in july yet
[10:22] Manoj : yes
[10:23] Ashish : Bajaj auto cracking
[10:24] Soumya : yhank you r m
[10:24] Suyash : RM where can i see the profile chart of 2nd june?
[10:24] r m : welcome
[10:25] r m : on the blog
[10:25] Suyash : when im changing the date, it says page not found. Maybe i’m doing something wrong
[10:25] Suyash : could you give me the link?
[10:26] r m : just a minute
[10:26] Suyash : sure!
[10:26] Sankar : @Varun, how you infered the buyer trapped at that level and seller trapped here etc..?
[10:27] r m : @Suyash – http://vtrender.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Nf_compo11.png
[10:27] Varun : order flow
[10:27] Varun : nos
[10:28] Varun : just waych them for few days
[10:28] Suyash : thanks a lot RM! 🙂
[10:28] r m : welcome 🙂
[10:29] Sankar : Cool. Watching. Also going through the reading matierials, as not sure how to infer the orderflow numbers also. Just read today they say Sellers Vs Buyers numbers.
[10:29] Sankar : Tx
[10:30] Augustin : @Shai/ @Varun – NF going below 8386 confirm dull day?
[10:33] r m : @Augustin, there is also VAH at 8388, NF may take the 80% route to VAL from there
[10:34] Kris : Probably last chance for bulls to hold – vwap + VAH!
[10:34] Dharamveer : @Rm so if vwap breaks we have to cover the intraday
[10:34] Augustin : Thanks RM
[10:35] Mohan : Kris Sir…Giving last chance 🙂
[10:35] r m : @Dharmveer, the stop given by Shai is 8381
[10:35] Kris : @Mohan – I am no sir! atleast in trading – yeah – do teach a lot of students at Engineering colleges etc. – But would prefer omission of Sir !
[10:36] r m : 10:10) Shai :Keep sl for the NF trade at 8381 instead of 8385
[10:36] Dharamveer : ok got it Rm
[10:37] Venkatesan : kris below vah and vwap , can i enter 8300 pe?
[10:38] Varun : shai cn u refresh one min tick data, this 90 seems to be a buyer
[10:38] Kris : @Venkatesan – as a lottery – yes – but as a trade – 8350PE or 8400PE are better na?
[10:38] Venkatesan : thank you kris
[10:49] r m : @Shai, tab 2 chat meant for posting chart links?
[10:50] VR : and the number 2 makes me wonder if I missed couple of charts 🙂
[10:52] r m : 🙂
[10:52] RK : number 2 I think Shai has designated for the walk-beer-politics chat after all the hara giri we did for past 2 days :))
[10:53] Vikkas C : any link to chk live MO ?
[10:53] Ashish : yes Rk, possible… Shai must be angry on us
[10:53] Tejpreet : 🙂 RK
[10:53] r m : @RK, only beer in that room or smirnoff too? 😀
[10:53] Sreedhar : some hot also peeped in RM
[10:54] RK : Shai is coolest never get angry 🙂 but may find it difficult to search real questions to answer so this option 🙂
[10:54] r m : @Sreedhar 🙂
[10:54] RK : RM ofcourse anything you can offer to us 🙂
[10:55] Ashish : Hope he will stay calm..
[10:55] r m : peanuts!
[10:55] Dharamveer : i think rm misspelt it was cahew i suppose
[10:55] RK : Who had Hero shorts yday? today’s low was traded one or the freak quote?
[10:56] Kris : Hmm… Varun bought a couple of trucks at VWAP+VAH – result can be seen!
[10:56] Vikkas C : i had hero shorts which i booked yesterday itself
[10:56] r m : MO at 65
[10:56] Vikkas C : didnt see todays low ..myt be a freak low like yesterdays freak high
[10:56] Varun : ya lloking for where to keep all the money
[10:56] RK : Vikkas oh ok..seems more downside today..auto is cooling off since morning
[10:57] Augustin : @Varun – My Account. Will be safe n secure 😉
[10:57] Sreedhar : I have a godown Varun..
[10:57] VR : @kris haha. can see Truck 1 of 25900 and T2 of 30575 🙂
[10:57] r m : MO spreadsheet here – http://tinyurl.com/McOsc
[10:57] Vikkas C : yeah looks like ..keeping on M&M and bajaj auto
[10:57] r m : but advance/decline have to be manually updated from NSE
[10:57] Varun : just think about the buyer whome kri sold t 8408
[10:57] Varun : still trapped
[10:58] Varun : kris
[10:58] Vikkas C : thanx RM
[10:58] r m : welcome
[10:58] Sankar : is the chart/screen visible for you all? I am getting a spinning bar there.
[10:58] Vikkas C : top right click X and refresh sankar
[10:58] Sudhir : slow same here
[10:59] Vikkas C : nxt to green question mark symbol
[10:59] r m : @Sankar, it needs good bandwidth, I am also having problems for last few days due to drop in bandwidth
[11:00] VR : it happens about once or twice in a day, refreshing solves the issue usually.
[11:00] r m : ok
[11:00] Sankar : I did that, looks fine now.. It was working fine before, I am in a 2Mbps line.. may be some drop in net I guess..
[11:01] Sankar : Thanks 🙂
[11:01] r m : i have 4mbps, but i seldom get more than 1mbps these days 🙁
[11:02] Sankar : 😉
[11:02] Varun : shai cn u refresh data
[11:02] Shai : Chat 2 tab is come on by mistake – will clear it at close. For now ignore
[11:02] Tejpreet : Acche din will only come when we get constant 20 mbps plus.
[11:03] Shai : Suyash : we don’t have 02 June but started from 03 June onwards
[11:03] r m : @Shai, we even used it in the morning then I wiped it clean, destryoed evidence 🙂
[11:03] Varun : shai just washed away all dreams
[11:03] Mohan : Next election propoganda will be on bandwidth…50 MPBS by AAp and 1GBPS by BJP..:-)
[11:03] Varun : of rk
[11:04] Shai : actually it was Varun’s idea to put charts in that format and he gave idea on 2nd June – so we started 03rd June 🙂
[11:04] RK : lol
[11:04] Suyash : ok shai – that explains why i was getting the error
[11:04] Sankar : Yes. I was typing in that room 2 actually.. 😉
[11:04] Venkatesan : rm its like vehicle milege, you will get only in standard condition
[11:05] Shai : bajaj auto gets weaker below 2390 now. can be a short with sl above 2410 ffor 2325
[11:06] Vikkas C : thanx shai
[11:06] Vikkas C : also pls have a look at M&M
[11:06] r m : yes Venkatesan, BSNL will wake up only after bade bhai launches JIO
[11:07] Mohan : Shai, my observation…Till now Bank Nifty and Nifty order flow was opposite..Now looks like alligned…Is that right?
[11:07] Ashish : Thanks Shai
[11:08] Venkatesan : :)) @ rm
[11:08] Shai : mnm weak below 1326 now
[11:08] Shai : intra
[11:09] Shai : could dip to 1295/ 1285
[11:09] Shai : sl 1336
[11:09] Vikkas C : thanx shai
[11:10] Kris : @Varun – he is the one who will take us below 8350 – is my hope! 🙂
[11:11] Varun : 😉
[11:11] Manoj : shai wht lvls r 1295&1285
[11:12] Shai : that was for MnM
[11:12] Mohan : Kris am with you…
[11:12] Manoj : ok thanks
[11:12] Vikkas C : SHAI 8398 has both buyers and sellers
[11:13] Vikkas C : i mean the quantities are huge
[11:17] Shai : could be rollovers
[11:18] Shai : @ Mohan the orderflow today and tom is about rollovers also. keep watching July chart on right too
[11:18] Shai : NF staying abv vwap and vah
[11:18] Shai : AMT puts bias with buyers
[11:19] Shai : Previous sellers were here on 2nd June but looks like we will see a slow grind up today
[11:20] Shai : 8426 our tgt 1 can come ina spike also hence better to enter profit target in system
[11:25] Varun : shai normally for a dd day, wht time do we break out of first range
[11:25] Shai : after 11.45 mostly some time 12.45
[11:27] Varun : ccol, we mite get one today 😉
[11:28] Manoj : shai i sold m&m intra @ 1317.2
[11:29] Hemant : Shai, 8300 PE out of the game? Can short it on a dip?
[11:29] Shai : Yes seller has to act here
[11:29] Shai : It is his court
[11:29] Shai : Yes Hemant
[11:30] Sreedhar : Shai NF resistance from here
[11:31] Tejpreet : Shai Views on Hindalco holding short since morning around 122 F.
[11:31] Shai : Yes slight res is here – I was waiting for it to climb abv 8404 strongly hence my trigger
[11:32] Shai : Vol has given up
[11:33] Dharamveer : Shall we hold or sell at cost
[11:33] Shai : Hindalco good short
[11:34] Shai : 119.6 cash is supp na d just about there
[11:34] Shai : can di to 117 in next 1-2 sessions but today may find supp near 119.6
[11:35] Manoj : awesome call for m&M shai i sold and nw tanking
[11:35] Shai : Dharamveer I’m holding but can exit and enter abv IBH for a fresh long
[11:35] Shai : that is also a right trigger at IBH
[11:35] Tejpreet : Thanks better to book out as expiry trickster maybe around 🙂
[11:35] Shai : true
[11:36] Shai : some 1 also gave KTK bank here the other day. Am thankful too 🙂
[11:37] Ashish : Shai, can short reliance here?
[11:40] Shai : RIL not a good short
[11:40] Shai : is in consolidation now
[11:40] Vikkas C : just an observation in 15 mins chart why do u have 8422 marked in red ?
[11:40] Shai : intra day still strong till abv 997
[11:41] Ashish : Thanks Shai, will stay away from it
[11:41] Vikkas C : ohh..got it
[11:41] Vikkas C : thanx shai
[11:41] Shai : Hope it is not another Normal day today
[11:41] Shai : IB still holding
[11:42] Vikkas C : shai is marunti a short here ?
[11:42] Vikkas C : *maruti
[11:43] RK : GF is bears will not have their chance today too..bulls will liquidate longs only by tomorrow 🙂
[11:44] RK : till we dont see <8360
[11:44] RK : this is on
[11:45] Vikkas C : smart money must have already exited RK..
[11:46] Vikkas C : leaving the last 50-60 points on the table
[11:47] Ashish : RK, VAL + filter, that’s why 8360?
[11:47] RK : Vikkas where’s that last 50-60 matters..until we go below atleast yVAL on the trend move, its on..
[11:47] Tejpreet : Vikkas smart monry isn”t Smart Money unless taken off the table 😉
[11:47] Tejpreet : money
[11:48] Vikkas C : true …
[11:48] Vikkas C : my GF says this mkt aint going up from here on unless we get a dip to 8280..myt be wrong as well
[11:48] RK : Ashish yes
[11:49] Ashish : Thanks RK..
[11:50] Ashish : MY GF says we are going to marry when 😉
[11:50] Vikkas C : hahahahhahaha
[11:50] Vivek K : GF is girlfriend or godfather?
[11:51] Sankar : lol
[11:51] Vikkas C : how many bachelors in this room ?
[11:51] Vikkas C : off topic question
[11:51] RK : and today’s POC has to go below 8370 kind of levels to have kind of confirmation that trend is at halt now
[11:51] Ashish : It’s gut feeling from RK and Vikkas..
[11:52] Vikkas C : trend – bracket – trend (presently in bracket) lets see where it brks
[11:53] RK : 7976,8074,8152,8216,8350,8374,8398(today sofar)..POC from 16th June..
[11:54] RK : once we get a overlap there we can start thinking of liquidating longs if anything is carried from lows 🙂
[11:54] Vikkas C : 🙂
[11:55] Tejpreet : Shai TECHM at lower end of trading rnge around 540 has done nothing this whole month can 540 call at 8 turn out to be expiry lottery trade
[11:56] RK : somebody tinkering BNF 🙂
[11:57] Tejpreet : too many 0*0 🙂
[11:57] Vikkas C : exit for the buyer who got stuck in the mrng
[11:57] Ashish : Who is standing at top…
[11:57] Ashish : single buyer @ 18435…
[11:58] Vikkas C : wait what wasnt there a buyer stuck in BNF @ 18415
[11:59] Vikkas C : can anyone confirm
[11:59] Vikkas C : @RM
[12:02] Ashish : @ Kris, stop is holding well in 8400 PE 🙂
[12:04] Vikkas C : RK sahab ab apna maal sell karo ..hum bears ko bhi thoda party karne do ab
[12:04] RK : looking for that spike here for 8426 🙂
[12:05] Vikkas C : then one big red candle ..
[12:05] RK : Vikkas 8426 or 8360 ..no sq off not in between 🙂
[12:06] VR : front running you with limit order at 25.95 :p
[12:06] Srini A : BNF moving up now
[12:08] RK : VR me at 24.90..always having a policy of keeping order +/- round nos 🙂
[12:09] Augustin : @RK, @VK You both auctioning down?? 😉
[12:10] Augustin : @VR*
[12:12] r m : @VR, just exchange with me, we both can avoid wating till price reaches there 🙂
[12:12] r m : *waiting
[12:13] VR : haha no sir. I’ll picking pennies before RK’s roller is all 🙂
[12:13] r m : lol
[12:22] Sankar : looks like it can’t range more than this.
[12:22] Sankar : 😉
[12:34] Sumit : test
[12:35] Vikkas C : am i the only one whos long in Puts..?
[12:36] r m : you have Kris for company 🙂
[12:37] Vikkas C : kris where r u mate …?
[12:37] Tejpreet : Vikkas am in 50 % and rest the moment RK offloads 🙂
[12:38] Sankar : 8500 was a major high made previously right. We will never know, puts may gain multifold in coming days also.
[12:38] Vikkas C : RK will offload only after he gets his 8424.90
[12:38] Sankar : 🙂
[12:38] Dharamveer : what is the figure at 8412
[12:39] Vikkas C : i think hes a seller ..but dude to rollovers getting confused myself ?
[12:39] Vikkas C : prolly RM or shai can help
[12:39] Venkatesan : seller , i guess dharam
[12:40] Vikkas C : *due
[12:40] RK : seems you guys wont allow to go there at 8426 🙂
[12:40] r m : yeah, they are ganging against us RK 🙂
[12:41] Vikkas C : 😉
[12:41] Ashish : If 8412 is a seller, price should come down to VWAP… just a thought #
[12:42] Vikkas C : RK and RM either take it to ur trgt and then give a nice crack or crack from here..choice is urs SIR
[12:42] Venkatesan : vikkas holding pe
[12:42] Venkatesan : ?
[12:43] r m : @Vikkas, Kris has given us all of today, he promised to take it down tomorrow only 🙂
[12:43] Vikkas C : holding way too much of puts now ..
[12:43] Hemant : Not supposed to hope, but then I too hope it cracks & gives in for a bit 🙂
[12:43] Vikkas C : bears ko thoda party karne do yaaron..weekend is also near
[12:44] Hemant : Lottery in the making 8300 PE?
[12:44] Venkatesan : vikkar 2morrow is ur day, as per kris
[12:44] RK : HUL registers 900..what a travel!
[12:44] Vikkas C : looks like ..but juts waiting for the options king Kris to confirm something on it 😉
[12:45] Vikkas C : been following him on twitter like a leech since a few mnths
[12:45] Vikkas C : 🙂
[12:45] r m : 🙂
[12:46] Vikkas C : whats up with icici and yes bank today ?
[12:46] Vikkas C : sudden spurt
[12:47] Shai : refreshed data
[12:47] Shai : not many sellers
[12:47] Srini A : Its green at top now
[12:47] Shai : price probng still up
[12:48] Shai : 18460 in BNF is yesterday sell zone
[12:48] Ashish : That seller was bluff 😉
[12:48] Shai : this is the first majot move abv kra today
[12:48] Shai : let’s see if it hold abv now
[12:49] Shai : 18474 kra in BNF
[12:54] RK : Maruti 4034 met
[12:54] RK : amazing move from 3800 levels
[13:02] Shai : Move sl to 8395 on the NF longs
[13:05] Shai : upmove is struggling
[13:06] Shai : but could be options expiry effect
[13:06] Shai : that 8400 ce never thought they would be tested this expiry
[13:06] Varun : so he could be in real trouble above 8430 types
[13:06] Varun : 8400 ce ?
[13:07] Varun : i hope mrkt does to bears what bears did to bulls on march 26th
[13:07] Sankar : any high is made, there is a big selling happening.
[13:07] Shai : Moved sl to 8395 just around the range highs of yesterday
[13:08] Manoj : hell yes varun bhai it was jannat fr bears tht day
[13:08] Shai : bulls don’t want to go below 8395 now
[13:08] Srini A : Price Action in pvt banks are giving huge comfort for upmove
[13:08] Shai : Sankar happens – this is a seller lair
[13:09] Sankar : ok.
[13:10] Shai : when we hit that 8450 spot – we will go with July puts or even Aug as Kris has been mentioning
[13:10] Shai : they are for min one week hold and qty needs to be heldd accordingly
[13:13] Varun : shai but sometimes mo cools off like with a 60-80 point fall also
[13:13] Varun : and mite re start journey up
[13:13] Varun : or 8450 is as per someother indicator also
[13:16] Shai : 8450 spot top of that 02/06 profile
[13:17] Shai : 01/06 profile was rejected
[13:17] Shai : and hence that will be the place to look for aggressive shorts
[13:18] Shai : but yes 8256 on the dip could show buying again
[13:19] Shai : at 200 points that option is a winner anyways as MO is there to supp once expiry done afternoon tom
[13:19] Sankar : so another 40 points upmove possible.. if spot has to cme to 8450.
[13:20] Manoj : shaido u expect any big show today ???
[13:20] Manoj : i exited nf longs @ 8411
[13:21] Mohan : Shai, Market looking for balance here…Is that right?
[13:21] Shai : yes
[13:21] Shai : Not expecting anything big
[13:21] Shai : volume in options centered at the 8400 strike
[13:22] Shai : call writers still hlding . Put writers adding pressure
[13:22] Shai : that game should continue tom as well
[13:22] Sankar : Still holding with Sl at 8395. Lets see..
[13:22] Manoj : then bye all have a boaring trading day 😉 cozz i m going out dont have fun
[13:23] r m : Bye Manoj 🙂
[13:23] Manoj : 1 last Q
[13:23] Manoj : even if i signout 4m here & ifshai post any trading call will i get the tweet ???
[13:23] Sankar : lol Manoj. Have a good evening 🙂
[13:24] Manoj : frm V2OF
[13:24] r m : yes Manoj, intraday calls here are being tweeted on @V2OF
[13:24] Tejpreet : Shai your take on 8400 put call combo at 66…..can we have vix spike tomorrow for expiry.
[13:24] Manoj : bus ok thanks and bye all by RM
[13:27] Venkatesan : shai/ rm my request to v20f pendng?
[13:29] Shai : Vic cannot go much below 13.7 from here , can do 16.40
[13:29] Shai : can’t say about tom but can rise from here as downside looks less
[13:30] Tejpreet : Thanks.
[13:30] r m : @Venkatesan, your twitter handle please?
[13:31] r m : can you resend the request Venkatesan?
[13:31] Venkatesan : venkat200
[13:31] Venkatesan : yse rm
[13:32] Shai : NF is solid as long as sit is above 8404 now
[13:32] Shai : added 10 points of filter to prev day high
[13:33] Shai : we can short below 8395 with sl of 8410 for 8360
[13:48] Arvind : I havent received a single intraday call till today on Twitter since the time I have subscribed
[13:48] Shai : Buy BNF 18444 sl of 18405 tgt 18485/ 18505
[13:50] r m : vtrender@gmail.com
[13:51] Shai : We have kept @V2OF only for trading room communication. You have to send a follow request to @V2OF and send us your twitter handle
[13:52] Shai : we get dozens of requests for a follow. If you don’t mail us your twitter handle we do not know it is you
[13:53] Venkatesan : rm and shai thank u,
[13:54] Arvind : Have sent earlier sending it again
[13:54] r m : if google buys twitter, they can merge handles with gmail id 🙂
[13:55] r m : bears getting restive!
[13:55] Arvind : thnx
[13:55] Sankar : BNF on.
[13:55] r m : @Venkatesan, welcome
[13:56] Arvind : Thnx Shai started receiving tweets
[14:00] r m : FIIs are piling on long CEs and getting out short CEs since last days http://vtrender.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/fiioi17.png
[14:00] r m : last 4 days
[14:02] Shai : slow grind up
[14:02] Sankar : Not much future shorts also.. so it doesn’t look like hedging..
[14:02] Shai : 18474
[14:03] r m : @Sankar, PE are spreads both long and short OI is up, but CE is directional though we don’t know the series – June or July
[14:04] Shai : past 2 hours 8403 has not been broken
[14:04] Sankar : Ok.
[14:05] Shai : and BNF has managed to stay abv 18410/ as also IBH at 18420
[14:05] Sankar : cool.
[14:07] r m : HUL is going to everest, maybe celebrating not having noodles in their product basket 🙂
[14:09] Augustin : They have taken the ‘Lead’ 😉
[14:09] r m : lol
[14:15] Shai : exit the NF long trade
[14:18] Shailesh : Shai exit longs?
[14:18] Shai : that selling at the top is making upmove difficult
[14:18] Shai : yes Shailesh
[14:18] Shailesh : okk
[14:18] Sankar : ok.
[14:18] Shailesh : jst saw on v2of
[14:20] Shai : 8416 is a big seller
[14:24] Shai : BNF
[14:25] Sankar : BNF tgt1 done.
[14:25] Shai : 18505 is that anomaly we missed 2 days back
[14:25] Shai : keeping exit triggers in BNF there
[14:26] Shai : some 1 is selling NF here at 8416 continously
[14:26] Sankar : once 1/2 booked, you will keep SL still as per system or at entry?
[14:26] Shai : entry always
[14:27] Shai : sl at cost now in BNF : (13:48) Shai :Buy BNF 18444 sl of 18405 tgt 18485/ 18505
[14:27] Arvind : Thnx
[14:27] Shai : scaling upper tgt in BNF to 18552
[14:27] Shai : sl at cost
[14:28] Venkatesan : rm is that rk selling at 8416?
[14:28] Shai : tgt 2
[14:28] Sankar : Ok. so second half the new tgt is 18552?
[14:28] Sankar : Ok cool.
[14:28] r m : @Venkatesan, can’t be, he is not an anticipatory trader 🙂
[14:28] Venkatesan : yes he said once
[14:30] RK : Venkat selling only below 8395 now..or else carry forward
[14:31] Venkatesan : thank you rk, and we r taking about ur long liquidation
[14:31] Kris : Back!
[14:31] r m : @RK, Venkat is presuming that all the buy/sell figures originate from this room only 😀
[14:31] Kris : Looks like nothing much happened!
[14:31] RK : Yes thats what I meant
[14:31] Venkatesan : hahahhah
[14:32] Venkatesan : thank you rk
[14:32] r m : @Kris, except that you had a sumptuous lunch? 🙂
[14:32] Kris : (09:23) Kris :@Kathir – possible. But, I am looking at a relatively dull day today.
[14:34] Shai : NF/ NF flat now
[14:34] Shai : Yes Kris dull day
[14:34] Sandeep : kris what about 8400 put?
[14:34] Sandeep : still holding
[14:34] Venkatesan : the seller @ 8416 atlast succeededby 10 pts
[14:35] Sandeep : should hold for tomorrow
[14:35] Shai : yes firly strong one he was at 8416
[14:35] Kris : yes Sandeep. I am still holding – against what I tweeted!
[14:36] Venkatesan : green to pink as well
[14:36] Ashish : Shai, 8416 also show buyers – 140650 against sellers – 203250…. then how we can say that seller is a big one there?
[14:36] RK : once get into IBH after 2.30 go for it otherwise it will backfire..msg to that 8416 seller 🙂
[14:36] Venkatesan : :)))@ rk
[14:38] Venkatesan : mrning the figure in the bottm left NIFTY MS WAS positive but nove negative
[14:38] Venkatesan : now -ve
[14:40] Venkatesan : nifty spot higher high and higher low is maintained
[14:40] Shailesh : seems now sellers have just woken up..
[14:41] Shai : Ashish top of the 5 min bar reds
[14:41] Shai : not big but aggressive
[14:41] Shailesh : they will be trapped now…
[14:41] r m : Bear’s view – 7 days of pain 🙂 http://screencast.com/t/cBxP3T12c
[14:42] Shai : looks for greens at the bottom of the bar ad reds at the top
[14:42] Ashish : OK shai, like 1420 and 1425 candles have reds @ top.
[14:42] Shai : yes
[14:42] Shai : there were 5 straight cndles which showed some one selling right at that price
[14:43] Ashish : Ok, got it Shai
[14:44] Soumya : shai auro 1461 achieved – great call !!
[14:45] Sankar : First day BNF made it green :). Still not understand much on how to read these charts, but found a set of documents in this page. Will read them 🙂
[14:45] Shailesh : shai can 8500 put be bought now for tomorrow ? wht wud be the target cmp 88
[14:47] Shai : Shailesh suggest a longer July or Aug put – can go with 8200 or below
[14:47] Shai : For tom the writers may sytill keep it 8385- 8425 or 8360- 8445
[14:48] Shailesh : okk…thanks
[14:50] Sandeep : kris in the morning which strike price August put you said ?
[14:50] Kris : 7900PE
[14:50] Sandeep : okay thanks
[14:54] Shailesh : Sellers
[14:54] Ashish : 8416 was indeed an aggressive one…
[14:55] Sandeep : shai short nf here
[14:55] Ashish : Reliance cracking now
[14:55] Shai : yes can – go with 50%
[14:56] Sandeep : tgt
[14:56] Shai : 8360
[14:56] Shai : sl 8410
[14:57] Shai : suden burst of sellers as 8403 broke
[14:57] Shailesh : today they came 6 mins early
[14:57] Ashish : want to see 32575 @ VAH to go home..
[14:58] Kris : That moment of truth on bulls again – around VAH and VWAP.
[14:58] Kris : Morning they held it – and got 30 point rally – now they give up and give 30 point sell off? 🙂
[14:59] Shailesh : in just 10 mins
[14:59] Ashish : 47750 green buy buy for the time being 😉
[14:59] Shai : if 8374 holds close
[14:59] Ashish : OK
[14:59] Shai : time is less
[15:00] Porus : That 8404 was a dam!
[15:01] Shai : sl 8390 now – can do 8360
[15:01] Shai : buyers
[15:01] Shai : close out if short
[15:01] Tejpreet : Kris what a roller coaster today got in at 46 sl hit at 34 …then got in at 23 and booked at 45.
[15:02] Ashish : Good one Tej..
[15:03] Shai : stopped 8368
[15:03] Tejpreet : This time tried to have RK like vision on targets as well as SL.
[15:03] Shai : see that riush of buy orders there
[15:03] Kris : nice Tejpreet.
[15:04] Tejpreet : Now no more June puts …not good for heart 🙂
[15:04] Shailesh : 8400 oi was 108% now at 78%
[15:04] Ashish : may be this is just a trailer for tomorrow
[15:05] Vivek K : shai as of now 8416-18 poor high? is it right? and significance if it is right?
[15:05] Tejpreet : Thanks to evry one in this chat room …keeps you focussed and alert …even if in wrong trade.
[15:06] Shai : saw this – (14:20) Shai :8416 is a big seller
[15:06] Shai : and suggested this – (14:15) Shai :exit the NF long trade
[15:06] Ashish : Shai,, some selling now
[15:07] Shai : all he had to do was break 8403
[15:07] Shai : yes selling getting overdone but
[15:08] Shai : Kris high risk 8400 ce for open tom?
[15:09] Kris : Part book the 8400PE at 50. Rest we will see tomorrow!
[15:10] Ashish : Thanks Kris for the trade 🙂
[15:11] Soumya : nifty might close at day’s low – good positional short shai?
[15:11] r m : @Kris, encashing some or carrying over?
[15:11] Sandeep : kris 5:08 Shai : Kris high risk 8400 ce for open tom?
[15:12] Shai : Neutral extreme close
[15:12] Shai : close at the lows could be an opp to buy some cheap CE
[15:12] Kris : How come my messages are coming very slow here.
[15:12] Tejpreet : Global cues negative …looking forward to gap down courtesy Kris.
[15:12] Shai : now there is panic in the 8400 pe
[15:13] Ashish : wow… 8416 waale ki jai ho
[15:13] Shailesh : ya thats what i was talking abt Shai
[15:14] Kris : @Rm – booked small – waiting for rest!
[15:14] Suyash : greece news
[15:14] Vikkas C : greece joker in the pack
[15:14] Suyash : measures not accepted by the creditors
[15:14] Soumya : not for expiry for positional trade shai
[15:14] Vikkas C : greek pm says deal not accepted
[15:14] Shai : ok
[15:14] Vivek K : kris was the greek pm for the day 🙂 grandmaster trade
[15:14] Kris : (14:58) Kris :Morning they held it – and got 30 point rally – now they give up and give 30 point sell off? 🙂
[15:15] Kris : Done!
[15:15] Shai : Looks like Kris was the consultant for the deal eh ? 🙂
[15:15] Shailesh : actually greece has said tht thy might not be able to cut off the deal
[15:16] Venkatesan : 8400 shooting
[15:16] Shailesh : so Kris big thumsup
[15:16] Sankar : Great trade that one 🙂
[15:16] Ashish : Shai, looks like you were there @ 8416
[15:16] Tejpreet : Thanks KRis …looks like we shouls start part booking july too .
[15:17] Venkatesan : something wrong
[15:18] Ashish : what wrong venkat?
[15:18] Vivek K : shai has a good eye
[15:18] Vivek K : great eye
[15:18] Ashish : MOney doubled man…
[15:18] Vivek K : someones GF also did well today
[15:18] Kris : Book a few more at 80. Rest let us hope for a gap down and 150 🙂
[15:19] RK : oops! fingers are aching after reversing all longs to shorts 🙂
[15:19] Shai : http://www.forexcrunch.com/crisis-in-greek-talks/
[15:19] Ashish : Rk 🙂
[15:19] Srini A : @Shai, 8330 good level to buy if it holds?
[15:20] Vivek K : krsi 8300 put also ITM
[15:20] Shai : 8350 was better
[15:20] Shai : avoid the by for now
[15:20] r m : @RK, you will make a very good piano player after this much practice )
[15:20] Shai : we will see at open
[15:20] r m : 🙂
[15:20] Srini A : ok
[15:20] Venkatesan : test
[15:21] Venkatesan : kris carry pe 2morrow
[15:22] Venkatesan : kris carry pe 2 morrow?
[15:22] Shai : he suggested part book and carry min
[15:22] r m : @Kris, thanks man, great call 🙂
[15:22] Vikkas C : shai can u chk if 428 was traded on sksmicro ryt now
[15:23] RK : RM yes used to it 🙂
[15:24] Venkatesan : test
[15:24] Venkatesan : test
[15:24] r m : MO cooled down to 47
[15:25] Shai : Closing is a bit weak below 8350 for this trend now
[15:26] Shai : if tom’s open is not above 8350F then 8300 PE can get under the scanner
[15:26] Vikkas C : http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-23/greece-soars-16-2-days-just-it-did-collapsing-december-february-may
[15:27] r m : @RK, must be awakward when it happens at open?
[15:27] Kris : Test
[15:28] RK : open is not a issue..all feed in basket and just a click..only alteration if there is a jump 🙂
[15:28] Sandeep : kris buy 8300 put for tomorrow or too risky /
[15:30] Vikkas C : bye all
[15:30] Venkatesan : thank you shai
[15:30] Vikkas C : thank u krish and shai
[15:30] RK : thanks and bye all
[15:30] Shailesh : thanks by all
[15:30] Tejpreet : Bye All.
[15:30] r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great evening 🙂
[15:31] Sandeep : thanks and bye
[15:31] Porus : bye all
[15:31] John : bye all
[15:31] Soumya : bye friends
[15:31] Kris : I am getting a lag some how.
[15:31] Kris : Sorry – if I did not respond in time.
[15:31] Kris : Hope my message to part exit came at right time.
[15:31] Shai : Bye all
[15:31] Ashish : Thanks Shai and Kris for rocking day….cheers!!
[15:31] Shai : Have a nice evening
[15:31] Vivek K : kris flash needs to be updated and cookies removed
[15:31] Vivek K : bye all
[15:32] Shai : Yes Kris update your flash
[15:32] Kris : Generally it will be – but – will check again.
[15:32] Ashish : bye all…
[15:32] Kris : Thanks Shai for giving me a chance to make noise in the room 🙂
[15:33] Kris : Bye all!
[15:33] Venkatesan : my system hanging, when i open my pe bot @28 gone to 70
[15:33] Sandeep : bye
[15:33] Soumya : Thank you Krish for coming back
[15:33] Venkatesan : issue with my broadband
[15:34] Srini A : Thanks Kris, Lot to learn from you
[15:34] Venkatesan : thank you shai, rm , kris an dfriend
[15:34] Srini A : @Venkatesan, Seems like the problem in broadand is widespread
[15:40] Venkatesan : yes srinin thank u
[15:40] Sankar : Bye All. Have a nice evening.
[15:40] Sankar : Today there was bit lagging in mine too.
[15:40] Venkatesan : see after mkt hrs i am getting vg reception
[15:40] Venkatesan : 2morros is there sankar let us have vg day
[15:40] Venkatesan : bye