Many traders are used to viewing volume as a histogram beneath a price chart. This approach shows the amount of volume traded below the price Bar. The Order Flow approach is to see the Volume traded inside or within the price bar, an important distinction.
Order Flow trading is thinking about what order market participants do and when you think along this, you can anticipate what kind of action they will be taking in the market. This is a very important concept in Order Flow.
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09:32 Shai : (09:32) Shai : Clsoe the NF BTST at 11733F here just at cost
11:03 Shai : (11:03) Shai : Trade- Buy 30000 put near 120 sl of 89 tgt 184. weekly
11:40 Shai : (11:40) Shai : Uopdate – 30000 PE at 140. Book fully
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09:02 Shai : GM all
09:02 Govind : GM all
09:02 Shai : https://vtrender.in/market-profile-analysis-dated-9th-apr/
09:04 Santosh : GM all
09:05 Shai : a small gap down expected at the open
09:05 Shai : watch for the ability of the market to stay above 11690 F at this open
09:06 Shai : expect speculative money to flow through the day on news / sources and the market could get random/ volatile
09:06 Shai : trade smaller sizes today
09:06 Jitender : Gm Folks 🙂
09:07 Jitender : hdfc seller wil butcher lot of positions who wud hv carried yday
09:08 Rahul Desai : Good morning everyone
09:08 Rahul Desai : Shai is any major news due today or you are referring to opinion polls?
09:10 Shai : polls
09:11 TP : GM All.
09:12 TP : Jit bn already bracing for that seller 200 down in pre open.
09:13 Jitender : yup..btfd on watch
09:13 Jitender : wen last u gt a 200 pt dip in bnf 🙂
09:13 Uttam : Good Morning All 🙂
09:13 Jitender : at open
09:16 Subhodeep : hdfc bank block deal
09:16 Subhodeep : 1.25 crore shares to exchange hands
09:16 Jagdish : GM
09:16 Subhodeep : gm all
09:17 Subhodeep : jit do give the referecne points of yours on bnf
09:18 Shubro : GM everyone
09:18 Shubro : Subho i was going to ask for the same from Jit beat me to it haha
09:19 Jitender : guys Shai & Uttam r the source for tat
09:19 Jitender : wil put my views…as n wen i see things
09:19 Shubro : no of course the hypos guide very well thanks to hard work from Uttam
09:20 Himanshu : GM all
09:22 Shai : 11746/ 30350 to reset the open
09:22 Shai : we take it from there
09:23 Subhodeep : +1(09:19) Jitender : wil put my views…as n wen i see things
09:24 Kathir : GM Shai all
09:24 Shai : 30200 call for 182
09:25 Boppanna : 300 on watch BNF
09:26 Govind : Is this a buy call?
09:26 Shai : no
09:26 Subhodeep : anil singvi short on hindalco back fires based on news of a factor in mori
09:28 Jitender : 🙂 (09:13) Jitender : yup..btfd on watch
09:28 Jitender : bnf just 11 points dwn
09:30 Uttam : b) Sustaining below 11740 can bring 11713-703 & 11680…NF low so far 11712
09:30 Uttam : b) Staying below 30345, the auction can move down to 30285-260 and 30195-162…BNF low 30161
09:32 Boppanna : +1
09:32 Shai : Clsoe the NF BTST at 110733F here just at cots
09:33 Shai : will take a neutral view from here and play today unbiased
09:37 Hari : GM All
09:37 Hari : Jit what time opinion polls coming?
09:39 HPandey : shai yesterday poc shifted to DVAH ..any importance?
09:41 Jitender : Hari..as Shai informed yday..around 5pm
09:42 Shai : yes Hpandey showed profits taken last 3 misn
09:42 Shai : mins*
09:43 Shai : opninion polls have been around for 2 years now , same channels and nothing will change today
09:43 Shai : 🙂
09:43 Shai : piece of junk these polls
09:43 Shai : rural india will decide 2019 and no one will go there to take an opnion poll
09:44 Himanshu : NAMo knows – he needs votes of Rural india while – urban class is on self- kill mode by opposing him
09:44 Anubhav null : can we trade in direction of ib breakout if it happens?now
09:45 Shai : can
09:46 HPandey : thanks shai
09:47 Anubhav null : thnx
09:47 Subhodeep : shai these days i see a gentlemen by the name pradip bhandari who does the rural rounds , shall see what he has to offer
09:47 Subhodeep : opinion poll
09:48 Jitender : bnf green
09:48 Himanshu : spot broke out –
09:48 Himanshu : wil track hdfc bnk andspot today
09:49 Jitender : 30.2ce 122-158
09:49 Jitender : 11650ce 84-99
09:49 MJ : Hdfcbk spot low 2249 🙂
09:49 Jitender : 11.6ce
09:49 MJ : Number artists.
09:50 Jitender : time fr a cuppa
09:50 Shai : 2046 good intra supp hdfc
09:51 Subhodeep : 2046???
09:51 Shai : can do 2070 with sl of 2043
09:51 Subhodeep : typo or 2246
09:52 Shai : 2265 in hdfcbanl
09:52 Shai : suopp for day
09:52 Shai : no that was hdfc
09:53 Jitender : 740 in nf is a seller
09:53 Himanshu : jit +1
09:54 Jitender : one lesson i have learnt in mkts…nvr try to trade the mktas a whole..trade yr tf..n aim to catch only couple of moves
09:55 Uttam : Rs in both at 11740 & 30315
09:55 Subhodeep : apologies shai my bad
09:55 Uttam : reds at vwap in NF
09:55 Jitender : (09:53) Jitender : 740 in nf is a seller
09:55 Uttam : +1 Jit
09:56 Uttam : 14k red there & now another 14k red at vwap
09:56 Uttam : a) NF needs to stay above 11745 at open for a move to 11757-760 & 11780-785…NF high so far 11744
10:01 Uttam : sup at 11726 in NF for now
10:01 Jitender : 20.72 vx
10:05 Uttam : both NF & BNF still in the Neutral Extreme reference
10:05 Uttam : for now
10:06 Uttam : 11730 got good vols in this dip, demand coming in there
10:18 R Goel : Uttam, since we are being accepted in the spike zone now on the c period if we get a breakdown we should take a buy ??
10:21 Uttam : Need to see if the break down gets accepted & what OF shows us there RG
10:21 Uttam : generally break of spike low is a sell
10:22 Uttam : so NF can test that 11703 zone once if 11721 goes
10:27 R Goel : cool thanks
10:31 Uttam : Range extension t upside coming?
10:31 Subhodeep : imo shall wait for a day high cross
10:31 Jitender : 30.1ce 185-215
10:32 Jitender : aaj na cho re ge tume hum
10:32 Uttam : woh to roj hi nahi chodte Jit 😉 +1
10:33 Jitender : 🙂
10:33 Uttam : BNF giving a C side ext and in a very narrow range
10:34 Jitender : in a trendn / momemtum mkt…c is a good period to trade
10:35 Uttam : Mon selling tail here in both wcih is why NF & BNF are unable to get above PDH
10:35 Uttam : supply coming in for now there
10:46 Natarajan : rafele deal news bringing in selling?
10:46 Natarajan : court accepted review
10:49 Jitender : zero impact on elections…2 late
10:49 Natarajan : true
10:49 Uttam : 23k red at lows o this bar
10:49 Uttam : poor lows in NF though
10:50 Himanshu : Nothing will come out of Raffle probe
10:51 Himanshu : ist just these disgruntaled – Shourie and Yashwant Sinha – Sathiya Gaye hain ?
10:51 Himanshu : They have become irrelevant to BJP and also any othe party hence
11:00 MJ : 58k bnf.
11:00 Jitender : 58k green bnf
11:00 MJ : SL?
11:01 Uttam : no liquidity today and vols very low
11:01 Uttam : previous 5min bar showing that
11:01 Uttam : so many 0s in it
11:03 Uttam : (10:33) Uttam : BNF giving a C side ext and in a very narrow range…..BNF confirming a FA at top already
11:03 Shai : Trade- Buy 30000 put near 120 sl of 89 tgt 184. weekly
11:03 Uttam : yet another Neutral day
11:16 Jitender : (09:06) Shai : expect speculative money to flow through the day on news / sources and the market could get random/ volatile(09:06) Shai : trade smaller sizes today
11:27 Jitender : hdfc deal done ?
11:28 Himanshu : no
11:28 Himanshu : ttl vol so far 62 lakhs – so may be 30 % is done
11:28 Himanshu : may be
11:29 Jitender : tis fall happened coz of it
11:29 Himanshu : yes but now in equlilbrium
11:29 Himanshu : 2262-2260 range is POc in spot
11:29 Subhodeep : not yet
11:30 Himanshu : Jit – u see spike up now since fall is arrensted
11:30 Subhodeep : price shoul dbe in the range of 2222 spot 2228 they are doing it in sub blocks it seems
11:30 Himanshu : mornig low is 2249
11:30 Himanshu : how come 2222 and 2228
11:30 Himanshu : if its done in market
11:30 Himanshu : not off market –
11:31 Himanshu : the volume of 63 Lksh in excahneg says its done in exchaneg
11:31 Himanshu : we cant see such high volume in hdfc bank other wise
11:31 Jitender : k
11:32 Jitender : AG says buy both & ‘hope” mkts end here…..BC
11:32 Jitender : hope
11:36 Shubro : hope
11:36 Shubro : pivotal word
11:37 Jitender : Himanshu..i wud prefer a retest of 30167 in bnf n c reaction tere or buy abv sustaining of 230
11:37 Jitender : till ten no trade
11:37 Subhodeep : thats my expectation o fprice hiimangshu
11:37 Jitender : as DT done….so y risk
11:37 Subhodeep : imo 1.25 crores share of hdfc bank were supposed to change hands via block deal
11:38 Jitender : 30150 ..hehe (11:37) Jitender : Himanshu..i wud prefer a retest of 30167 in bnf n c reaction tere or buy abv sustaining of 230
11:38 Shubro : Jit looks like bnf heeded to request
11:38 Jitender : happened fast
11:38 Govind : Hope and BOOM!
11:39 Subhodeep : spot low on hdfc bank till now 2231
11:40 Shai : Uopdate – 30000 PE at 140. Book fully
11:47 Shai : nic exit we made
11:47 Shai : back down
11:47 Uttam : +1 Shai
11:47 Shai : is still a buy near 95 with sl of 75
11:48 Govind : Thanks Shai.
11:49 Jitender : n 230 also here
12:10 Subhodeep : shai test of poor lows would lead us to 11688?
12:10 Subhodeep : nf wise
12:11 Jitender : Shai..accumulation happening in bnf here or can go down ?
12:14 Shai : may test 30030 once
12:14 Shai : ki d of weak again
12:15 Jitender : tx
12:20 Anubhav null : i think they wanna test 11740 once
12:21 Jitender : Uttam’s 721 pivot tere
12:21 Subhodeep : shall be happier if it does:)(12:20) Anubhav null: i think they wanna test 11740 once
12:40 Shubro : some action happening now it seems
12:40 Jitender : 230-281 done bnf (11:37) Jitender : Himanshu..i wud prefer a retest of 30167 in bnf n c reaction tere or buy abv sustaining of 230
12:41 Jitender : sweet trade
12:42 Jitender : greens need to hold 721 nf & 230 bnf
12:44 Jitender : 20.92 vx
12:46 MJ : @shai usdinr can go to 68.9 levels?
12:46 Rajiv : Jitender what your target for BNF today?
12:52 Shai : 69.14 ibj 1 in usdinr
12:54 MJ : Thanks chief.
12:54 Jitender : Rajiv..none
12:54 Jitender : dont do positionals
12:59 Himanshu : bommmmmm
13:00 Uttam : similar auction as yesterdays in both
13:00 Himanshu : spot boom – tday spot lifting f
13:00 Uttam : BNF left poor lows yesterday & a FA and today NF doing it
13:01 Uttam : but both have probable FAs at lows again
13:01 Uttam : 10k green at top in BNF
13:01 Uttam : SL order seems like of hsorts
13:07 Himanshu : Jit – Uttam – Exited 30KPE – 124- 79
13:08 Himanshu : and 29900 & 29800 – with 30 points each
13:08 Himanshu : now waiting for Shai’s 30030 F – call
13:10 Himanshu : Uttam – if its neutral profile in BNF – is it supposed to touch 30030 ?
13:10 Himanshu : or due to pre- eexpiry move at 2.30
13:13 Himanshu : or due to Small IB – 2 IB /1 IB move is certain – want to learn logic behind ? – Chief – Jit – Uttam – pls throw light
13:15 Uttam : poor highs also now in NF along with poor lows
13:16 Uttam : Himanshu BNF is already a Neutral Day today
13:17 Uttam : nice bell for now
13:17 Uttam : looks like both are setting up for a trending move tom after the opinion poll event is out of way, what say Tej 😉
13:22 Uttam : 11700 combo at 76 looks good Shai for tom?
13:25 Uttam : considering that we are yet to get out of Monday’s range & we have the opinion poll results this evening?
13:27 Anubhav : game over
13:28 Anubhav : lol
13:28 Shai : wil have to chart it- (13:22) Uttam : 11700 combo at 76 looks good Shai for tom?
13:29 Boppanna : low check 11:47 Shai : is still a buy near 95 with sl of 75
13:29 Shai : 0’s and green band there
13:29 MJ : Shai 30k pe all out 🙂
13:30 MJ : Gracias.
13:30 Shai : almost there – (12:14) Shai : may test 30030 once
13:30 Himanshu : yes
13:30 Shai : 11664 supp 1 in NF
13:31 MJ : Bye guys. Happy election season.
13:31 Anubhav : pump n dump as usual
13:35 Boppanna : Right there 13:30 Shai : almost there – (12:14) Shai : may test 30030 once
13:36 Uttam : +100
13:37 Shai : high risk longs for 30180 sl of 30020
13:38 Uttam : (13:22) Uttam : 11700 combo at 76 looks good Shai for tom? from 76 to 93 now
13:38 Uttam : sorry 103
13:39 Himanshu : Shai somee thiing changed – BNF spot and key banks bleedding with heavy vol in spot
13:39 Anubhav : any signs of rb?
13:39 Govind : Did a quickie on that straddle Uttam. In at 80 and out at 95
13:39 Uttam : nice Govind 🙂
13:39 Govind : Cheers
13:39 Shai : RB in NF
13:40 Uttam : 63k at 11665
13:41 Uttam : huge vols coming in here
13:41 Uttam : just like yesterdays afternoon bar
13:41 Uttam : just that 30mins earlier
13:41 Uttam : 14L vols so far almost
13:42 Subhodeep : yes for the first time in my associationwith vt that i am seeing above avg volumes on nf
13:44 Uttam : 14.5 L that 30min bar had in NF
13:45 Gaurav : still inside day
13:45 Uttam : double inside day
13:45 Gaurav : yups
13:46 Shai : BNF still to enter that upper MB
13:46 Shai : have stops at 30020 if in longs
13:46 Shai : looking for a quick move back up to 30180/ 30250 on that supp at 30030
13:48 Jitender : bck
13:48 Jitender : on days like theese i thank God for the DT concept
13:48 Himanshu : yes
13:48 Govind : DT is daily target?
13:48 Jitender : walkn away is sumtimes the best positiom
13:48 Himanshu : ys
13:48 Jitender : ys Govind
13:48 Govind : Cool
13:48 Himanshu : u toldd mee earlieer
13:48 Govind : I am there already…
13:49 Himanshu : jit seccondd eeentry
13:49 Govind : and staying away for now
13:49 Jitender : whoever survives n made money today is a champ
13:50 Natarajan : i also ride tvs champ 🙂
13:51 Govind : Capital preservation Jit…so important.
13:52 Subhodeep : +1 modes different though as long as money is made(13:49) Jitender : whoever survives n made money today is a champ
13:53 Himanshu : one guy was saying some astro confluence today post 11.30 hence – markeet to tank – 5th – 10 th April period topping out
13:54 Himanshu : think polls tonight will create some panic ..
13:54 Jitender : ask the astro guy abt his mtm 😉
13:54 Govind : Who is releasing these polls? Already so many polls have come out. Why is this one important?
13:55 Shubro : lololololol
13:55 Jitender : no one has a clue apart from the big money guy
13:55 Anubhav : hope 11625 holds
13:55 Himanshu : ha ha
13:56 Shai : true
13:56 Himanshu : yes true jit
13:56 Shai : will be the same till may end now
13:56 Shai : these big moves can come from nowhere
13:56 Himanshu : again 3 IB move today ,,,
13:57 Himanshu : spot weak ,,
13:58 Himanshu : shai – pls see BNF spot – Daily candle
13:58 Shai : third test of 30020
13:58 Shai : last chance to move in the upper MB
13:58 Himanshu : all morning working – is just wick in yesterday area
13:58 Himanshu : so far and major working below yesterdays body
13:59 Shai : That low in BN spot yesterday is a major HVN
13:59 Shai : if broken the BN can drop hard
13:59 Himanshu : yes
13:59 Shai : almost 1000 also
14:00 Anubhav : reversal!
14:01 Vivek : Hi Shai Where do one see HVN on chart?
14:01 Shai : that was the spot chart
14:01 Shai : refer to the weekend posts
14:01 Vivek : ok
14:01 Shai : spot is posted then
14:04 Shai : 30070 sl now in BNF
14:07 Subhodeep : shai the last 30 min of nf candle was RB happening ?
14:08 Shubro : Shai have a 30100 long call BNF? Stay exit?
14:08 Shai : yes Subhodeep
14:08 Shai : NF has a good RB
14:09 Shai : calls are not moving well in BN now
14:09 Shai : make exits
14:09 Shai : also exit the F
14:15 Jitender : bazooka day
14:17 Ashish null : tttt
14:17 Ashish null : sorry
14:17 Shubro : what timing for that call changes directiona went other way
14:18 Subhodeep : would it be correc tot say that high vix woul densure swingsof 80 -100 points across the day on the nf?
14:19 Subhodeep : uttam again a poor low in nf?
14:20 Subhodeep : and profile wsie would this be a neutral extreme structure?
14:23 Govind : NF spot 11550 is crucial support
14:24 Shubro : Subho this is like now we all fall down structure
14:25 Subhodeep : hahahah
14:25 Rajiv : NF 3IB done
14:25 Subhodeep : hush ha husha we all fall down
14:26 Shubro : 🙂
14:27 Anubhav : what a fight
14:27 Anubhav : get some popcorn
14:27 Shubro : dangal III
14:27 Anubhav : 41025 changed it agian
14:28 Shubro : Jit u there?
14:28 Subhodeep : aur karo block deal of 1.5 crore shares 🙂
14:29 Anubhav : haha
14:29 Jitender : on n off Shubro
14:30 Jitender : want 2 close screen
14:30 Jitender : but fascinating 2 watch
14:30 Shubro : urrgh u got that feeling
14:30 Jitender : no positions
14:30 Shubro : yes drug
14:30 Shubro : worth carrying shorts overnight Jit?
14:31 Jitender : no
14:31 Shubro : ok
14:31 HPandey : its 3ib today shubro
14:31 Shubro : hmm
14:32 HPandey : mihir …tagging extension ?
14:32 Jitender : bnf does 100 points up in a single bar’\
14:32 Shubro : anaconda
14:33 Uttam : NF had that 65k red stuck at lows at 11650
14:35 HPandey : 14.20 bar uttam?
14:37 Uttam : yes
14:37 Shubro : this 2 pm moves on BNF are like total movie climax scenes man
14:38 Shubro : and we are still struggling to get back in to MB Shai with that up?
14:40 HPandey : and rb in next bar ?(14:37) Uttam : yes
14:40 Boppanna : Shai 590 NF if low breaks?
14:42 Shai : below 11632 only
14:43 Anubhav : vwap test coming?
14:44 Anubhav : buyers not ging up 11650
14:44 Anubhav : giving*
14:48 Subhodeep : aint vwap far considering time left?14:43 Anubhav : vwap test coming?
14:49 Jitender : Uttam…daily atr fr both ?
14:49 Anubhav : 30 points
14:51 Shubro : go go go go go go
14:51 Himanshu : boom
14:51 Subhodeep : done for the day now waiting watching and observing , jit thanks for treating me to the dt concept
14:51 Jitender : 29.8pe 96-65….one last trade
14:52 Subhodeep : +1
14:52 Shai : nice 1
14:52 Shai : the poll move is here
14:52 Jitender : tx guys
14:52 Jitender : ys Shai
14:53 Subhodeep : poll move as in direction shai ?
14:53 Shai : if it goes high, we buy puts
14:53 Subhodeep : noted
14:54 Subhodeep : last three days -63 , +67, today >=-50
14:54 Subhodeep : nf wise
14:54 Shubro : Shai better to buy puts today or tomorrow mornig?
14:56 Shai : today 3.15
14:56 Shubro : ok
14:57 Shai : technical profile view is for a test of 11450 spot from here next week
14:57 Shai : sl is 11690
14:58 Shai : looking to see if I get 29800 put cheaper into close
14:59 Shai : 66 now
14:59 Shai : may give 144 tom
15:01 Shai : BTST- Buy 29800 puts around 66-70 cmp 78 buy in zone sl of 21 tgt 144. weekly tom.
15:02 Shai : don;t chase
15:03 Shai : opinion poll move is muddy
15:04 Shubro : muck
15:08 Shubro : that 29800 PE bus missed
15:08 Shubro : darn
15:09 Shai : not yet
15:09 Shai : may come back a bit
15:09 Shai : sweet spot is that volu me at 66-70 there
15:10 Shubro : hmm at that 30 min vwap
15:12 Gaurav : Can do STBT on Nifty Shai?
15:12 Shai : NF sl is deep
15:12 Hari : i bought some NF small quant
15:12 Hari : sl at 11580
15:12 Shai : go with a put instead
15:13 Anubhav : INRA SHORTS R COVERING
15:14 Shai : yes
15:20 Subhodeep : top it off with a weekly expiry tomorrow 🙂
15:20 Subhodeep : thanks to all see you all tomorrow
15:21 Shai : yes let’s take a fresh view tom
15:22 Shai : if you got in the BTST 29800 puts book at 102 here.
15:23 Jitender : greens
15:23 Hari : nice
15:25 Jitender : bye all
15:25 Anubhav : these guys r doing btst
15:26 Anubhav : insiders!
15:27 Shai : triple inside
15:28 Shubro : meaaning what Shai?
15:28 Shubro : Triple inside balance?
15:29 Shai : yes
15:29 Shai : trend day coming tom or t+1
15:29 Govind : Bye guys
15:29 TP : Bye All.
15:29 Shai : Bye all
15:29 Shai : catch up tom
15:30 Uttam : thanks All 🙂 have a lovely evening
15:30 HPandey : thanks shai (15:29) Shai : trend day coming tom or t+1
15:31 Mani : bye all
15:32 Anubhav : bye
11:29 Subhodeep : shai titan id and swing views doyou se further fall till 1060 spot levels??
11:54 Rajiv : Shai any views on ITC?
11:55 Subhodeep : shai swing view on icici bank series wise do you see it aping the highs ?
12:46 Shai : titan id drop may be done but there is now a failure belpw 1094 today in which case 1068 is now open
12:46 Shai : void abv 1095
12:47 Shai : 294 intra supp now ITC
12:47 Shai : not much happening today
12:47 Shai : good buying at 293 which projects 298 for this move
12:47 Shai : sl of 293
12:48 Shai : icici a close abv 396 today is positive for more
12:49 Shai : 407/ 411 2 obj in icici
12:49 Rajiv : Shai I am going to grow old waiting for ITC LOL
13:15 Himanshu : shai – Bombay dyeing –
13:16 Uttam : Shai Maruti can do that 7272 today?
13:19 Shai : ITC is a slow mover Rajiv
13:19 Shai : the best strategy for such stocks is covered calls
13:20 Shai : buy cash equivanent and sell 15% – 20% out OTM cals
13:45 Subhodeep : shai htanks a ton for titan and icici
14:29 Subhodeep : grasim swing veiw shai when you find time
15:24 Shai : gresim slightly weak today
15:24 Shai : may want a test of 832 again
15:24 Shai : 858 sl