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23:56 Vtrender Live : 30 min charts – https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/395524213
08:58 Uttam : Good Morning All 🙂
09:07 Pritesh : Good Morning
09:07 Pritesh : Thank you, looking forward as hoping new chapter will begin soon.
09:08 Uttam : welcome Pritesh 🙂
09:11 Tejpreet : GM All.
09:15 Niraj : gm all
09:16 Govind : Vix down 4%, at 14.5 now
09:16 KK : link to hypos ?
09:17 Uttam : https://vtrender.com/market-profile-analysis-dated-21st-november/
09:17 Uttam : @Tej into the monthly 12k combo at 150
09:18 Uttam : had bought the PE yesterday at 90 levels & this morning entered in the CE at 60
09:18 Tejpreet : +1
09:18 Uttam : RB in NF below PDL
09:19 Uttam : strenght only above 11982-992
09:19 Govind : Shai not in today UG? Traveling?
09:19 Uttam : BNF still holding that FA of 31224
09:19 Uttam : Shai will login post IB today as he’s on his way to the hotel
09:19 Govind : Cool, thnx
09:20 Uttam : NF still in yesterday’s spike
09:20 Uttam : broke below but got a RB as of now
09:21 Uttam : 12k ce being written since yesterday
09:21 Uttam : today also so far OI rising in it
09:23 Govind : RIL big move
09:24 Uttam : now if we get an IB in both we could have an ORR
09:24 AmitN : Uttam, what should be the SL in that combo?
09:24 Uttam : can keep it as 130 Amit on a 15min closing basis
09:25 Uttam : but I could also add or exit one leg as per how auction develops
09:26 AmitN : ok, thx
09:26 Uttam : goibg back belw PDL is NF
09:27 Uttam : 15k red at lows of this 5min bar
09:27 Uttam : this series Roll Over point was 11970 & we are still there on the last friday of the series too, wonder if we are going to expire there itself ;-p
09:29 Uttam : that buyer not getting support
09:31 Uttam : green band & 0s at this new low in NF but needs to get back above 11962
09:31 Uttam : greens htere & increasing
09:32 Uttam : BNF hanging on above that FA of 31224
09:36 Niraj : trading below todays open now
09:41 Prajwal null : charts slow??
09:41 Uttam : seem fine Prajwal
09:41 Tejpreet : Uttam whats the nov series vwap bn ?
09:42 Govind : Slim volumes
09:42 Govind : 31282 Tej, I think
09:42 Tejpreet : tks
09:43 Prajwal null : thank you uttam
09:44 Uttam : as per MPLite till yesterday it is 30755
09:44 Tejpreet : hmm….. i think Shai did mention SL for swing longs in bn at the same lvl 🙂
09:45 Uttam : 🙂
09:45 Uttam : RB being taken out here
09:45 Uttam : SLs
09:46 Prakash : NF going down & NF CE 11900 going up
09:46 Uttam : 36k at 11942
09:46 Prakash : ..??? why so wierd
09:47 Prakash : anybody can throw some light pls…
09:47 Uttam : how much did it go up by Prakash?
09:48 Prakash : 101 to 110 CE 11900
09:48 Prakash : & NF 11951 to 11940
09:48 Uttam : its 97 now
09:49 Uttam : 12k pe went from 101 to 110
09:50 Prakash : Oh my Bad.. sorry for confusion
09:50 Uttam : +1
09:52 KK : back to 11970 ?
09:56 Uttam : above 11952
09:57 Uttam : BNF looking good but needs to get above VWAP
10:02 Uttam : BNF at vwap
10:02 Pritesh : What is for this right tab ?
10:02 Pritesh : Can’t see anything on screen sharing/white board /notes tab
10:02 Niraj : sir sellers are not doing godd job eventhough market not moving
10:03 Uttam : @Pritesh we have all the live charts running on the right tab
10:03 Uttam : please refresh once if you are getting a blank screen
10:10 Uttam : one check of 11923-916 coming looks like
10:10 Uttam : BNF unable to get above VWAP
10:13 Prakash : RB @11934..
10:13 Uttam : yes but candle still forming
10:14 Uttam : C side ext could come lower
10:17 Uttam : there you go
10:17 Uttam : (10:10) Uttam : one check of 11923-916 coming looks like
10:17 Uttam : 1.3L green
10:17 Uttam : 11925 low so far
10:19 Uttam : 11922.9 low in NF
10:19 Uttam : 1 ATR from 12021 done
10:19 Uttam : part booked that 12k combo at 158
10:19 Uttam : PE could correct a bit
10:19 Uttam : C side xt plus big green
10:20 Uttam : needs to get above that pink band
10:20 Prakash : should it go up from here..?
10:20 Prakash : 11935*
10:22 Uttam : you got a RB and a C isde ext so goo chance of test of 11950 above 11935 and if you get a IB then can go for 11970 too
10:30 KK : Hi Suyog, on mplite, I was expecting NF 934 to show higher volumes, but those were at 940 in past 5 days.Am I selecting something wrong ?
10:30 Suyog : was there a false tick at open in BNF for that 31158?
10:31 Suyog : @KK share the url that you are seeing please..
10:31 Govind : 31162.3 is what I have in Truedata Suyog
10:32 Suyog : @KK, also, are you looking at volumes in intra chart or some specific date ?
10:32 Uttam : morning low in BNF was around 31245 as no voles below it
10:34 Suyog : thx Govind, Uttam, am trying to resolve that mystery of 31160 hit.. was it legit or not.. if no vols then i guess ok to ignore
10:34 Uttam : yes Suyog even yesterday NF freak high at open was at 12030 but actual IBH was12019 which was what MPLite also showed
10:35 KK : it’s fine..both seem same, although I was expecting 935 to be same as 972/974..may be need to take longer time period
10:35 KK : https://mplite.vtrender.com/?symbol=NIFTY&tf=daily&tpo=2&sp=1&startDate=15-11-2019&endDate=21-11-2019&nDays=5&idstr=&dstr=&rst=1&iam=
10:35 KK : I will take this offline with you later.thanks
10:36 Pritesh : Not getting anything from Graph..
10:36 Suyog : ok, @KK, yh the vol composition will change as you get more days.. we are almost in same range for this full series
10:36 Pritesh : Any video which can help in understanding the graph..
10:36 Uttam : can you DM me your screenshot on slack Pritesh
10:36 Uttam : you have links in the welcome mail
10:37 Pritesh : DM means ?
10:37 Pritesh : sorry
10:37 Govind : Come on, tkae that vwap!
10:37 Uttam : which has all the info you need
10:37 Uttam : Direct Message = DM
10:38 Pritesh : Sure
10:38 Suyog : even zerodha is showing low of 31162, but its charts show low of 31209.7
10:38 Jitender : tis TV clown waghle…is another gujral..70% of his calls, if atock is near a ressis/supp lvl r wrong..for ID scalps
10:39 Uttam : 15k green at 11941 stalling the auction upside for now & he needs quick help
10:39 Jitender : PVR he gvs a buy at 1822 with SL 1808…..i shorted tere and cvrd at 1803
10:39 Uttam : lol Jit
10:39 Jitender : titan sell at 1124 with sl 1146…i bought tere and sild at 1132
10:40 Jitender : tey all in the biz of trappn retail
10:41 Uttam : charts stuck?
10:41 Jitender : Uttam…wat do u think oftitan..looks weak positionally ?
10:41 Jitender : of titan*
10:41 Uttam : not seen that chart Jit
10:41 Jitender : dekho …..
10:41 Uttam : done will do it & let you know
10:41 Jitender : +1
10:42 Jitender : can gv 80-100 bucks
10:42 Jitender : bps*
10:42 Uttam : oh ok
10:44 Prakash : @Jit recommend us also on quick 80-100bps 🙂
10:46 Uttam : charts back
10:51 Uttam : looks like that stuck green finally got some support
10:51 Uttam : BNF abov VWAP
10:51 Pritesh : Uttam can you remove that warning message from Nifty Chart?
10:53 Uttam : thats right on top Pritesh & not hampening todays OF, will be taken out only after Shai is back in the room
10:54 Govind : BOOM
10:54 Uttam : slow move but finally did thie…(10:22) Uttam : you got a RB and a C isde ext so goo chance of test of 11950 above 11935 and if you get a IB then can go for 11970 too
10:54 Uttam : MP & OF rocks
10:54 Govind : Yeah UG, +1
10:54 Jitender : Prakas..tats y asked Uttam fr his view….1146 is a shrt ..lets c
10:55 Uttam : BNF needs to hld vwap now
10:55 Uttam : NF got one 10k green excited at vwap
10:55 Jitender : *Prakash
10:56 Prakash : understood Jit & Thnx, I will also chk
10:56 Jitender : wc
10:57 Govind : That 31215 zone held pretty well UG
11:00 Uttam : yes Gov imp zone that & 31180
11:00 Pritesh : Uttam, Check DM
11:01 Uttam : that 12k combo looks like starting a fresh leg down
11:01 Uttam : booked out rest at cost
11:04 Govind : +1 UG, I went long in BNF 31230. First target is 31315.
11:05 Uttam : 31280 part book Gov as todays hvn there
11:06 Uttam : right now resisting there only
11:07 Govind : Yes UG, noticed that. Pivoted there again
11:07 Prakash : what is this ,….
11:07 Uttam : ,…. is a comma & 3 dots Prakash 😉
11:07 Uttam : yeah Shai is here
11:08 Shai : Hi guys
11:08 Prakash : Bang on @Uttam, you rightly highlighted of fresh down
11:08 Prakash : what lead that UG
11:08 Uttam : its all there on the charts Prakash 🙂 we just need to read them well
11:09 Govind : Hi Shai
11:09 Uttam : hows it feeling to be in namma Bengaluru Shai 🙂
11:10 Uttam : mornign selling tail in BNF from 31269-31330
11:10 Uttam : 31280 is the POC of the first 30min bar which has the highest vol so far
11:15 Shai : was greeted well by your traffic 🙂 – (11:09) Uttam : hows it feeling to be in namma Bengaluru Shai 🙂
11:15 Shai : 11928 is a strong buyer here
11:15 Shai : As stromg as the selling seen yesterday near 12000
11:20 Govind : Big reds in BNF
11:23 Jitender : chrts stuck ?
11:23 Uttam : no Jit working fine for me
11:24 Jitender : tx
11:25 AmitN : Jit your250-270 range still held well, Like a wall.
11:26 Uttam : BNF getting weak here
11:28 Jitender : yes….below 170 liquidation will start
11:28 Jitender : else rangebound
11:28 Pritesh : Hi Shai
11:30 Govind : 2.4L in NF
11:30 Govind : 14k in BNF
11:30 Jitender : Sl’s
11:30 Jitender : nf
11:30 Govind : ok
11:30 Jitender : Shai can tell better
11:31 Prajwal null : roll??o
11:33 Jitender : Amit..havn fun 🙂
11:36 Prakash : @Shai is 11916 a new buyer or coverig
11:36 AmitN : Thx Jit, yes shorted around 240, covered early though got 50 pts.
11:37 Jitender : congo bro
11:39 Shai : No Sl orders
11:42 AmitN : thx 2 you and VT, ur refs are amazing…
11:42 Jitender : _/\_..its all tx 2 OF
11:44 Jitender : tis vwaplo guy in nf is the smartest cookie today
11:45 Rajiv : oh Shai these are buys?
11:45 Jitender : (11:45) Jitender : if he gets follow up abv 916, it will make his day
11:47 Shai : yes RB’s here
11:47 Shai : 11916 to watch
11:47 Shai : conf for RB is still abv vwap
11:51 KK : trend day ?
11:53 Pritesh : Can anyone help me in understanding the two numbers bar beside on 30 mins bar chart ? I am guessing left side number describes the number/volume of buyer & righ side number bar describes the seller volume..
11:55 Uttam : @Pritesh already told you that you will need to go through the links & the videos to be able to start reading these charts
11:55 Uttam : right side is the buyers & left sidfe is the seller
11:56 Uttam : and we have 4 concepts which we follow while watching the OF (Order Flow)
11:56 Uttam : which we look to identify on these charts for probable trade set ups
11:57 Uttam : along with the MP levels & Hypos we derive daily in our report which is updated on the website
11:57 Uttam : everyday late evening
11:58 Pritesh : Cool, Thanks UG 🙂
12:03 Jitender : 170 held in bnf
12:05 AmitN : yes jit
12:18 Uttam : NF does 80% in the composite Value
12:18 Uttam : 11992 to 11885
12:19 Uttam : which was what this hypo was about – b) The auction has support at 11965-960 which if broken could bring levels of 11940 / 11923-916 & 11901-885
12:19 Uttam : day low so far 11884.1
12:20 Govind : +1 Uttam
12:26 Jitender : +1
12:27 Uttam : NF staying below 11901 emaisn weak
12:27 Uttam : sorry 11918
12:30 Uttam : that 2.6L guy also right there today
12:30 Uttam : it was the composite POC
12:31 Uttam : above that can go for a 11940 tag
12:31 Uttam : BNF above 31185 could test that 31240-280 again
12:32 Uttam : unabble to do that PLR remains down in both
12:32 Uttam : Spot also 11884-881 imp zone if breaks then can test recent lows of 802 & 770
12:35 Uttam : 30900 & 30785 could come in BNF if 31090 is broken
12:35 Uttam : with 31020 a minor support
12:36 Govind : Massive power surge followed by a power cut in my area; even my backup batteries blew up…damn
12:37 Uttam : ohhh
12:37 Uttam : room charts also gone
12:38 Boppanna : GA all what an entry I log in and screen goes 🙁
12:39 Uttam : lol what have you been upto Bops
12:40 Boppanna : lol..Had to attend my daughter’s at her school Children Day celebrations
12:40 Uttam : oh wow thats nice 🙂 love to go to such events
12:42 Boppanna : Well not really its more of a parents trying to fight for pics and videos perfect spot 🙂
12:43 Uttam : oh in my kids they announce right at the start & keep reperating not to take any pics or vide as they have pros doing it & all get a copy
12:43 Govind : Uttam, won’t be able to make it to Bangalore bro. Real bummer. For Shai’s workshop.
12:44 Govind : Will DM you later as to why.
12:44 Uttam : ohhh why Gov? you were one of the first to register
12:44 Govind : Family needs me here. 🙁
12:44 Uttam : oh ok 🙁
12:44 Pritesh : Anyone from Pune?
12:44 Govind : I’ve requested Shai to provide me a seat at the Mumbai gig.
12:45 Govind : Guess we will have to meet up some other time then. Unless you will be coming to Mumbai?
12:45 Rajiv : hi guys are the charts down?
12:45 Uttam : yes Rajiv
12:45 Uttam : done Govind
12:51 Pritesh : Charts are Back
12:53 Uttam : yes
13:05 Jitender : day job donec:)
13:05 Uttam : BNF 46k green at 31084
13:05 Uttam : 0s at 31125
13:05 Boppanna : 31KPE sustains above 205 will be nice ..oh 46K green
13:06 Uttam : (12:35) Uttam : 30900 & 30785 could come in BNF if 31090 is broken(12:35) Uttam : with 31020 a minor support
13:06 Uttam : tat buyer right there at 31090 zone
13:07 Uttam : 2IB done in both
13:07 Uttam : gone
13:08 Jitender : (11:28) Jitender : yes….below 170 liquidation will start(12:03) Jitender : 170 held in bnf
13:08 Uttam : 31020 next on atch
13:09 Boppanna : +1 Jit
13:10 Uttam : 31023 low so far BNF
13:23 KK : each rise to 31090 , a sell now ?
13:24 Boppanna : 31KPe looking good as long as 205 holds IMO
13:24 Rajiv : JIT BNF retrace above 31083 possible? To what extent
13:25 Uttam : poor lows in NF
13:25 Uttam : not getting below the composite VAL of 11885
13:26 Boppanna : @Rajive we are trending down since morning better to look for short opportunites IMO
13:26 Uttam : so if that stays above 11918 can go for 11940 / 11990
13:26 Boppanna : in BNF
13:26 KK : 900 PE OI stuck and not falling, waiting for 900 CE OI to cross
13:27 Uttam : (12:35) Uttam : 30900 & 30785 could come in BNF if 31090 is broken(12:35) Uttam : with 31020 a minor support
13:27 Uttam : right now that 31020 holding
13:27 Uttam : next leg down if that breaks on vols
13:27 Uttam : elsse a bounce to 31160 is on here
13:32 MJ : Uttam: Logged in late that 46k is a sl order in bnf? or fresh guy?
13:33 Uttam : could be a mix Mihir as we had 0s too at 1125 when BNF fell
13:33 MJ : Oh thanks 20k in green below him too.
13:34 Uttam : yes thats the BR and has an equal number in red too
13:34 Uttam : thats the RB*
13:38 Uttam : 31130 is the dPOC so need to atch OF there
13:38 Uttam : (13:27) Uttam : next leg down if that breaks on vols(13:27) Uttam : elsse a bounce to 31160 is on here
13:39 Prajwal null : seems to be giving double distribution down day
13:40 Prajwal null : sorry wrong .essage
13:40 Rajiv : Thanks Bops. was asking since I am already stuck in a small long position in BNF
13:42 Boppanna : ok cool that dpoc was the fiirst check which Uttam mentioned
13:42 Uttam : that 28k green looks like a stuck short exiting
13:47 Boppanna : @Rajiv just sharing a few lessons I learned when u are holding a posiiton against the trend mark ur exits accurately cos waiting for an exit later you may lose out on easier /less Risk and hence emotionally not draining trade..
13:47 Boppanna : *less risk trade
13:48 KK : wil it touch 31160 or better to short at 31140 only ?
13:48 Rajiv : Agree. I know I have to improve on that
13:49 Boppanna : @KK planning to renter 31Kpe if it gets above 213
13:50 KK : oh, i entered at 199, with SL 178 .
13:50 KK : i ahve to overcome FOMO..
13:51 Boppanna : that looks fine to me I am just triying not to lose the meagre profit I got 🙂
13:53 KK : you are right , let me exit and take it below 31090
13:54 AmitN : Jit have you moved the line to 120?
13:55 KK : I am already short on NF in this rise with SL 931..need to size management also..hoping 887
14:00 Jitender : Amit no shorts till 31084 brks
14:00 Jitender : persistent buyer algo
14:00 AmitN : ok
14:00 Jitender : he has to gv away fr shrts
14:00 Boppanna : Europe all green
14:01 Uttam : 31129.9 high in BNF in this last bounce (13:38) Uttam : 31130 is the dPOC so need to atch OF there
14:01 Uttam : gone
14:03 Uttam : (13:27) Uttam : next leg down if that breaks on vols(13:27) Uttam : elsse a bounce to 31160 is on here
14:03 Uttam : say hi to 31160 🙂
14:03 KK : will this break 31170 ?
14:03 Boppanna : +100 Uttam the whipmaster
14:03 Uttam : (13:25) Uttam : poor lows in NF(13:25) Uttam : not getting below the composite VAL of 11885(13:26) Uttam : so if that stays above 11918 can go for 11940 / 11990
14:03 Prakash : & for NF 11940.??
14:04 Uttam : needs to stay above 11918
14:05 AmitN : great read uttam – 160.
14:05 Uttam : _/\_
14:06 Uttam : 31220 next in BNF
14:06 Uttam : if stays above 31130
14:07 Jitender : 31120 pivot nw
14:08 Uttam : NF got a RS at vwap
14:08 Uttam : 40k green right there
14:08 Uttam : one test of 11905 could come in it
14:09 Uttam : BNF also nering VWAP now
14:09 Govind : Battle at vwap in NF
14:09 Govind : 🙂
14:13 KK : europe almost a percent up
14:13 KK : Is it time to change direction ?
14:15 Govind : Will NF test poor lows?
14:18 Govind : IS in NF right Uttam, in the previous 30 min bar?
14:18 KK : bnf for 31230 ?
14:19 Boppanna : IBL still resisting
14:20 Boppanna : but held Jit’s 120 in this PB
14:25 Uttam : 11907 low in this dip (14:08) Uttam : one test of 11905 could come in it
14:26 Rajiv : now uttam we need 11950
14:26 AmitN : fight between 160 and 120
14:26 Uttam : get soem greens at vwap
14:29 Boppanna : Friday last hour
14:30 Uttam : and this series last Friday 😉
14:31 Uttam : again 9k geeen stuck at vwap in NF
14:33 Uttam : this 11901 is the series POC also I guess so we could either move away from there in this hour or close could be around this for a move in the expiry week
14:40 Boppanna : Uttam u have to lean/short the torch in one direction for Nifty to move 🙂 just don’t leave it 3pm
14:45 Govind : DOne
14:45 Govind : 11925 to 890
14:45 Jitender : gave time ti take pos 🙂 (14:07) Jitender : 31120 pivot nw
14:45 Jitender : to
14:46 AmitN : will it break days low?
14:47 Jitender : scalpes 40
14:47 AmitN : yes, thats done
14:50 Rajiv : Jit back to 30120 now?
14:52 Jitender : less likely
14:52 Jitender : idiot trapped at 31070
14:52 Jitender : else 50 wudhave come
14:52 Jitender : but guys pls take all tis as ID views
14:53 Jitender : n pls follow yr risk management rigourously
14:53 Jitender : as m often wrong
14:54 Rajiv : JIT point taken on RM. Not on that you are wrong often LOL
14:55 Jitender : at 120 i will b 🙂
14:56 Rajiv : so that still does not make ot often
14:57 Jitender : k 🙂
14:59 Jitender : 5 bps se bache
14:59 Govind : 3 pm move?
14:59 Uttam : 11901 close or you giving some 3:05 move Jit?
14:59 Govind : 🙂
15:00 Uttam : je baat
15:00 Jitender : 🙂
15:00 Govind : Goes the other way 🙂
15:00 KK : 938 ?
15:00 AmitN : bulls want to capture 150/160
15:02 Boppanna : 31070 guy puked
15:02 Uttam : yes looks like
15:02 Uttam : NF also 37k red fella bleeding green
15:03 Uttam : 3:05 is now
15:03 Boppanna : Friday 3pm move
15:04 Uttam : 31224 coming in BNF?
15:04 KK : Abki baar..
15:06 Uttam : no looks like dpoc close in both
15:07 KK : 2 mins more.
15:09 KK : I was thinking of carrying 12K PE , but its back now
15:12 Boppanna : Uttam how is that 11900ce/pe looking ?
15:13 Uttam : (14:33) Uttam : this 11901 is the series POC also I guess so we could either move away from there in this hour or close could be around this for a move in the expiry week
15:14 Uttam : am in it Bops 135-140
15:14 Boppanna : ok cool..Monday IB will be fun
15:14 Uttam : next week should be fun 😉
15:16 Govind : Holding no positions; ending the week flat.
15:16 Uttam : +1 Giv
15:16 Uttam : Gov
15:17 Govind : Thanks bro, Wednesday and Thursday were not too good for me. BUt made up today.
15:21 Rajiv : Guys how are the US indices
15:21 Rajiv : i cant seem to view them on Investing
15:21 AmitN : spx up 6
15:21 Jitender : spx +6
15:22 Rajiv : Thanks
15:28 Govind : Metal index is up, no one knows why (other than the guys who are buying of course :))
15:29 AmitN : Have a nice weekend. Uttam ,Shai and other members, looking forward to meet you tommorrow.
15:29 Uttam : dPOC close
15:29 Jitender : bye guys…have a grt weekend
15:29 Uttam : thanks All 🙂 and have a wonderful weekend
15:29 Govind : +1 UG, have a great weekend
15:29 Govind : Have fun at the workshop
15:29 Uttam : and looking forward to meet some of the guys tom
15:29 Uttam : thanks Gov, you will be missed though
15:29 Govind : Cheers to that! Have a beer or two for me please
15:30 AmitN : that we can take care of 🙂
15:30 Govind : Cheers Amit!! 🙂
15:30 Uttam : 🙂 cheers guys
15:30 AmitN : cheers 🙂