Order Flow trading is thinking about what order market participants do and when you think along this, you can anticipate what kind of action they will be taking in the market. This is a very important concept in Order Flow.
Market participants always look for the weaker side of the market, so both buy and sell stops will be targeted. Just one of the many concepts of Order Flow trading.
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09:28 RK : (09:27) RK : Long NF 10825 SL 10800 obj 10850/10880
09:53 RK : (09:52) RK : Make exit 10810 (09:27) RK : Long NF 10825 SL 10800 obj 10850/10880
12:03 RK : (12:02) RK : Short NF 50%25 10825 SL 10855 Obj 10780
12:19 RK : (12:19) RK : Add another 50%25 below 10827 and once added move SL to 10846 (12:02) RK : Short NF 50%25 10825 SL 10855 Obj 10780
13:01 RK : (13:00) RK : move SL to 10846 now even for 50%25 size (12:19) RK : Add another 50%25 below 10827 and once added move SL to 10846 (12:02) RK : Short NF 50%25 10825 SL 10855 Obj 10780
13:23 RK : (13:23) RK : 50%25 stopped and cancel pending shorts (13:00) RK : move SL to 10846 now even for 50%25 size (12:19) RK : Add another 50%25 below 10827 and once added move SL to 10846 (12:02) RK : Short NF 50%25 10825 SL 10855 Obj 10780
13:24 Shai : (13:24) Shai : Update – Make an exit in the 10800 call at 83 here near cost.
13:47 RK : (13:46) RK : Short NF 10842 SL 10865 obj 10800/10785
13:47 RK : (13:47) RK : Short BNF 50%25 27080 SL 27125 obj 27000
14:24 RK : (14:24) RK : stopped (13:46) RK : Short NF 10842 SL 10865 obj 10800/10785
14:37 RK : (14:36) RK : make exit 27090 (13:47) RK : Short BNF 50%25 27080 SL 27125 obj 27000
15:07 Shai : (15:07) Shai : Update- exit the 10900 CE at cmp44-45
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08:56 Shai : Good Morning
08:57 Shai : https://vtrender.in/market-profile-analysis-dated-22nd-feb/
08:57 RK : GM Shai and all
08:59 Shai : Normal day in NF on Friday and a weak ORR in BNF which saw buyers coming back lower down
08:59 Shai : break of value is the trade in NF
09:04 Subhodeep : gm all
09:04 Manjunath : GM all 🙂
09:04 Shai : 10857 ext handle maxiumun push on upsides today. 10770F remians breakdown ref
09:07 Jitender : Gm Folks 🙂
09:07 Pramod null : Good Morning
09:10 Rahul Desai : Good Morning Everyone
09:10 TP : GM All.
09:11 Boppanna : Gm all
09:14 Dhaval : Gm all
09:16 Uttam : Good Morning All 🙂
09:18 Sandeep : GM All 🙂
09:19 Boppanna : 27100?
09:23 Himanshu : GM all
09:27 RK : Long NF 10825 SL 10800 obj 10850/10880
09:27 TP : Any news on chinese stocks …booming up.
09:28 Boppanna : Tej Trump pushed the deadline news
09:28 TP : oh ok , tks.
09:30 Jitender : posted in news channel in morn
09:30 Boppanna : BNF losing steam?
09:34 Arjun : shai sir big reds in nifty driving price lowe ?
09:38 Azmath : Uttam can we say this as ORR ?
09:40 Uttam : yes Azmath, NF is an ORR
09:40 Uttam : tags yPOC
09:40 Jitender : shrtn the open erked again 🙂
09:40 Jitender : wrkd
09:41 Uttam : 10806-804 is a hvn so needs to hold here for NF to give abounce
09:41 Jitender : ys
09:41 Uttam : acceptance below it will make it weak
09:41 Jitender : buyrs have induce SC
09:42 Jitender : to
09:44 Boppanna : BNF could drop quick to 950 if fails to hold 27000 IMO
09:46 Jitender : bulls have the global support to bout today
09:46 Jitender : fr tis series
09:47 Jitender : its their day to fail or succeed
09:51 Jitender : sustain vwap…n fun will start
09:51 Jitender : on upside
09:52 RK : Make exit 10810 (09:27) RK : Long NF 10825 SL 10800 obj 10850/10880
09:53 Sandeep : done
09:53 Jitender : hmmm
09:55 Sandeep : GM All
09:55 Sandeep : Shai name not changed ? Psandeep
09:58 Shai : Sandeep – will have that checked again
10:00 Sandeep : no worries
10:06 Psandeep : Thanks Shai for the name change
10:07 Shai : +1
10:10 Himanshu : new himanshu..pls have your name change too if wish so
10:17 Azmath : 43k is it rollover Uttam
10:18 Uttam : yes Azmath
10:19 Jitender : Shai..bnf range for expiry pls
10:25 Hari : GM ALl
10:35 Himanshu : gm hari
10:35 Hari : Hi Himanshu
10:40 Himanshu : hello sir.. out of poistionals?
10:41 Hari : yes no posns yet
10:41 Hari : no sir pls
10:42 Himanshu : cool
10:42 Himanshu : ok
10:44 Shubro : RK/Shai do we interpret NF profile as a slow grind up or a b formation?
10:49 RK : b
10:55 Shai : 10804 still ref
10:56 Shai : fairly big – (10:19) Jitender : Shai..bnf range for expiry pls
10:56 Shai : 26770-27090-27410
10:57 Shai : just the nature of the profile
10:57 Shai : as we are stitting at poc series
10:57 Shai : so could do nothing or move big by thurs
10:58 Subhodeep : shai nf expiry range?
10:58 Jitender : tx Shai
10:58 Jitender : Shubho (15:09) Shai : 10676- 10880 range for expiry
10:59 Subhodeep : tx missed chats last day..
10:59 Jitender : +1
10:59 Jitender : done fr the day….:)
11:00 Jitender : 3 trades..1st shrt ..fr 60bps bnf (09:40) Jitender : shrtn the open erked again :)(09:40) Jitender : wrkd
11:00 Jitender : ten bought bnf and nf at 805….(09:46) Jitender : bulls have the global support to bout today
11:01 Subhodeep : fst n furious
11:01 Jitender : still believe..strong probab of tis today (09:51) Jitender : sustain vwap…n fun will start(09:51) Jitender : on upside
11:01 Jitender : Shubho..last 2 were slow n drawn of patience
11:02 Shai : yes looks one test of 10860F due later in day
11:02 Jitender : fr my trades…time has 2 b factored in
11:02 Shai : void below 10804
11:02 Jitender : +1 Shai
11:03 Uttam : yes Shai +1 10877 vpoc tag could come if we stay above 10804-806
11:05 Jitender : Uttam..always catches it first 🙂 (09:41) Uttam : 10806-804 is a hvn so needs to hold here for NF to give abounce(09:41) Jitender : ys
11:05 Uttam : _/\_ Jit
11:06 Boppanna : +1
11:06 Jitender : 26.9pe below 85..will b a clue
11:06 Jitender : SL 12pm
11:11 Piyush : why there is no red 114 in 30 min vtrender extra chart link but it is there in mad panel chart?
11:11 Piyush : It creats confusion.
11:13 Hari : charts moving?
11:13 Boppanna : yes hari
11:14 Uttam : charts are moving HAri but markets are not 😉
11:15 Prasanth : Boring markets
11:15 Prasanth : *market
11:16 Uttam : we are in expiry mode
11:16 Jitender : boring r the safest 🙂
11:16 Shubro : Shai on the positional 10800 any need to tighten the SL?
11:17 Shubro : +1 Jit absolutely
11:19 Shai : yes Shubro watching 10803F . we wille xit iof that goes
11:21 Hari : Uttam:), do stocks, moves are good there
11:22 Uttam : thanks Hari have started to follow the 10 stocks which are on bot alerts to start trading in them so lets see how it goes 🙂
11:23 Hari : picked up some OTM PEs of March Uttam small quant
11:25 Uttam : oh ok Hari +1
11:26 Jitender : bnf made a LH
11:26 Jitender : time fr a cuppa
11:28 Vineet : can we assume that 10810 and 10820 , is in control of the nifty at present point of time? @shai
11:42 TP : 5L guy comes early .
11:42 Boppanna : 5l
11:42 TP : both buy n sell
11:43 Uttam : oh on Monday itself instead of Wednesday
11:43 Rajiv : RK what happened here?
11:43 Shubro : is he expecting some big news?
11:43 Uttam : same vols in Mar too
11:44 Uttam : rolling of positions is on
11:44 TP : what’s in March chart Uttam
11:44 Uttam : same vols Tej but not sure how much buy & now much sell
11:45 Uttam : 11L on 1min in both
11:45 TP : ok
11:45 TP : 5L vs 6L.
11:46 Uttam : last series rollover was at 10676 I think
11:46 Uttam : this time 10820
11:46 TP : Shai your views on this algo , does it mean expiry zone is marked ?
11:53 Shai : 2 guys hit the tape togther
11:53 Hari : block deal )
11:53 Shai : looks like a faulty execution in one leg
11:53 Shai : we have 548250 on bid against 643800 on ask
11:53 Uttam : so one of them could be reversed Shai?
11:53 Shai : in Feb
11:54 Shai : the march guy looks like a buy
11:54 Shai : 10860 March
11:55 Shai : interesting
11:55 TP : So the covering of this faulty execution could be a big move ?
11:57 MJ null : Algo guys early
11:58 Shai : looks done TP
11:58 Shai : rollover vol is 10860F March
11:58 TP : tks chief.
12:02 RK : Short NF 50% 10825 SL 10855 Obj 10780
12:07 Boppanna : BNF 5 min chart frozen?
12:18 Shai : better now?
12:18 Boppanna : fine
12:18 Boppanna : thx
12:19 RK : Add another 50% below 10827 and once added move SL to 10846 (12:02) RK : Short NF 50% 10825 SL 10855 Obj 10780
12:41 Jitender : shanghai up 5.5%
12:45 Subhodeep : trumps msg qutoed delay on reaching a settlement to trade talks
12:46 Subhodeep : unless th einterpretors goofed up their mandarin i am not too sure whats happeneing with shang hai
12:46 Subhodeep : 🙂
12:47 Hari : news based spikes are not good
12:48 Jitender : 100% consensus on TV fr rise in both
12:48 Imran : RK a small query
12:49 RK : yes
12:49 Himanshu : heard some rumors on Attack on PAk with in 1st to 10 th march
12:49 Imran : if the trade below 827 doesnt trigger
12:49 Imran : then sl wil be 855 else 846
12:49 RK : SL would remain at 855 if 2nd part is not in
12:49 Imran : ok thanks RK +1
13:00 RK : move SL to 10846 now even for 50% size (12:19) RK : Add another 50% below 10827 and once added move SL to 10846 (12:02) RK : Short NF 50% 10825 SL 10855 Obj 10780
13:07 Jitender : 23k red bnf..rollover ?
13:08 Shai : No
13:08 Uttam : no Jit
13:08 Shai : BNF does not come so early
13:08 Uttam : rollovers dont happen so early Shai has alwasy told 🙂
13:08 Uttam : in BNF
13:09 Shai : could be fri longs booking
13:10 Jitender : tx Shai n Uttam
13:16 Uttam : boom boom
13:16 Uttam : 27090 here
13:16 Uttam : vpoc in BNF
13:22 Jitender : (09:51) Jitender : sustain vwap…n fun will start(09:51) Jitender : on upside
13:22 Jitender : booked all
13:23 Jitender : will review post 1.45
13:23 Hari : COngrats Jit
13:23 Jitender : tx man
13:23 RK : 50% stopped and cancel pending shorts (13:00) RK : move SL to 10846 now even for 50% size (12:19) RK : Add another 50% below 10827 and once added move SL to 10846 (12:02) RK : Short NF 50% 10825 SL 10855 Obj 10780
13:24 Uttam : b) Accepting above 27035, the auction can probe higher to the vPOC of 27090 and 27135
13:24 Uttam : A period singles in BNF this morning moving away from yPOC gave a hint that PLR to up plus it was a gap up also
13:24 Shai : Update – Make an exit in the 10800 call at 83 here near cost.
13:25 Shai : 10853 – (09:04) Shai : 10857 ext handle maxiumun push on upsides today. 10770F remians breakdown ref
13:26 Shai : close to that ext handle
13:26 Shai : this move up took more time than expected actually
13:27 Jitender : ys
13:27 Jitender : laborious mve
13:28 Shubro : Jit/Shai what does the slow/laborious move tell?
13:29 Shubro : reluctant/cautious buyers?
13:29 Shai : caution
13:29 Shubro : ok
13:31 Subhodeep : bears registering attendance ; waiting for them to show up , 875 888 levels woudl they show up ?or we have a secured high??
13:31 Subhodeep : reference the day high candlea dn the 0000
13:46 RK : Short NF 10842 SL 10865 obj 10800/10785
13:47 RK : Short BNF 50% 27080 SL 27125 obj 27000
13:57 Shai : breaks 10825F and the remaining should be easy
14:04 Uttam : 55K green in NF
14:04 Uttam : rolls
14:14 Hari : @Uttam, NF march is being bought?
14:19 Miyajan : reminded of a famous phrase today ‘never short a dull market’
14:19 Jitender : (09:46) Jitender : bulls have the global support to bout today(09:46) Jitender : fr tis series(09:47) Jitender : its their day to fail or succeed
14:20 Jitender : the template was clr from morn
14:20 Jitender : its the slowness ….wich creates doubts
14:21 Jitender : after IB bnf didnt give a decent dip
14:23 Jitender : 27065 as long s its held
14:24 Jitender : more SC can cum
14:24 RK : stopped (13:46) RK : Short NF 10842 SL 10865 obj 10800/10785
14:24 Boppanna : last hour could get wild IMO
14:25 Boppanna : BNF
14:25 Jitender : yh
14:25 Jitender : happy day so far
14:29 Uttam : a) Staying below 10806-802, NF can probe lower to test 10785-782 & 10769b) On the upside, NF needs to get above 10830-835 and sustain for a move to 10876-887
14:36 RK : make exit 27090 (13:47) RK : Short BNF 50% 27080 SL 27125 obj 27000
14:40 Subhodeep : hvbeen just gazing the index gazing db stk jit
14:41 Jitender : k
14:42 Shai : very slow uptrending move of HH and HL
14:42 Shai : too slow actually
14:42 Jitender : its btfd till close
14:42 Jitender : but the quantum of dip is the q 🙂
14:43 Uttam : (11:03) Uttam : yes Shai +1 10877 vpoc tag could come if we stay above 10804-806
14:43 Subhodeep : yes this is something new index wise for me to watch out for a tr if at all
14:43 Uttam : 10873 so fsr NF
14:43 Jitender : Uttam..fr a change..i called the upswing first today 🙂
14:43 Subhodeep : and to see the opposing forces adn qtms at play
14:43 Subhodeep : you laid it out for the bulls
14:44 Boppanna : +1 Jit
14:45 Jitender : +1
14:45 Jitender : yes bank gone mad
14:46 Jitender : abv 27170..bnf will go mad
14:47 Boppanna : That b hypo in BNF got to its target at the slowest pace to since I have been here or else Uttam gets makes sure his hypo target pretty quick :))
14:47 Uttam : (14:43) Jitender : Uttam..fr a change..i called the upswing first today 🙂 ….aap tp aap ho sirji 🙂 but good one though
14:47 Jitender : hum sab together bemisal hain
14:47 Uttam : when NF did not sustain below 10804 auction more like was for the upside
14:48 Shai : +1
14:48 Uttam : lol Bops…expiry fever so lethargic moves
14:56 Boppanna : Uttam you trying to make amends by getting d hypo in BNF quicker above 135 ?
14:56 Subhodeep : bnf beserk +! hdfc bank gng beserk:)
14:58 Jitender : new day highs…wallah
15:00 Subhodeep : when no one replied .. then..(13:31) Subhodeep : bears registering attendance ; waiting for them to show up , 875 888 levels woudl they show up ?or we have a secured high??
15:00 Jitender : 🙂
15:01 Jitender : fr tis environ…a bear like me..got a bullish day rite…miracles do happen 🙂
15:02 Jitender : 10950+ visible
15:02 Jitender : fr expiry…caveat home environ remains stable
15:02 Subhodeep : chances of a war dimming army soudning less spritey
15:03 Jitender : till expiry atleat 😉
15:03 Subhodeep : hehe
15:03 Jitender : boom
15:03 Prasanth : bears will be praying for a surgical strike
15:03 Subhodeep : happyw ith my jub tho
15:03 Jitender : its dwn today..good one
15:04 Subhodeep : 888 might just arrive
15:04 Jitender : k
15:04 Jitender : 2.84 n going (14:23) Jitender : 27065 as long s its held(14:24) Jitender : more SC can cum
15:05 Boppanna : Just push that BN spot above 140
15:06 Jitender : bingo 27170 (14:23) Jitender : 27065 as long s its held(14:24) Jitender : more SC can cum
15:06 Jitender : (14:46) Jitender : abv 27170..bnf will go mad
15:07 Subhodeep : 888 done
15:07 Jitender : +1
15:07 Shai : Update- exit the 10900 CE at cmp44-45
15:08 Rahul Desai : Hi Shai what are your views on BankNifty
15:08 Boppanna : Perfet Uttam all out ..14:56 Boppanna : Uttam you trying to make amends by getting d hypo in BNF quicker above 135 ?
15:08 Jitender : SC is a bitch..aint’t it 🙂
15:09 Shai : ramp up in BNF
15:09 Uttam : that weekly FA in both NF & BNF still in play
15:09 Shai : 2733o possible BNF @rahul
15:11 Rahul Desai : Thanks Shai
15:12 Shai : NF another buy signal swing above 10857 F today
15:15 Jitender : +1
15:15 Subhodeep : +1 shai been following 10900 pe fo tthe whole of htis month..
15:18 Uttam : @Azmath you there?
15:18 Azmath : Yes Uttam
15:19 Uttam : today’s ORR failed in NF as could not stay below the yPOC & tag yVAL
15:19 Uttam : once it got back above PDH it has been probing higher
15:20 Azmath : Yes Uttam.. 820 was the SL for shorts post AB period
15:20 Uttam : BNF anyways had given a gap up and A period singles
15:20 Uttam : when a POC of the previous day gets tagged only once that is a good sign that market wants to move in the other direction
15:21 Jitender : Az..wat else was tere at 820..wich u track 🙂
15:21 Uttam : only once I mean only one TPO there
15:21 Azmath : Sirji Vwap was there
15:21 Boppanna : RK just a hindsight analysis the early morning NF trade exit reason as we didn’t get stopped out?
15:21 Jitender : one more thing Az
15:21 RK : Bop was expecting a swipe below VAL as it sustained below VWAP on test..
15:22 Boppanna : ok thx RK
15:23 Azmath : Previous day High Jit
15:24 Jitender : (11:45) Uttam : 11L on 1min in both(11:45) TP : 5L vs 6L.(11:46) Uttam : last series rollover was at 10676 I think(11:46) Uttam : this time 10820
15:24 Jitender : tis Az
15:24 Azmath : oops yes.. the roll over figures
15:24 Uttam : perfect Jit 🙂
15:24 Jitender : i salivated almost after he appeared..it dipped n went up
15:24 Jitender : never touched 820 again
15:24 Azmath : 860 March contract
15:24 Uttam : even last month we had a trending expiry after that 5L guy came at 10676 on Wednesday
15:25 Uttam : today we got that fellow early so rise started early?
15:25 Jitender : same thing happened last time..but tis time i remembered 🙂
15:25 Uttam : +1 Jit
15:25 Boppanna : Shai probabiltyy of 11000 visit possible for this expiry if BNF tomorrow opens above today ?
15:25 MJ : 10676 F is 300+ today
15:26 MJ : Lovely play by biggies.
15:26 Jitender : tey milk it man
15:26 MJ : Great stuff Shai and VT.
15:27 MJ : At the start of feb and now all makes sense.
15:27 Subhodeep : jit i got to think of nifty as the holy cow 🙂
15:27 Jitender : 🙂
15:27 Rajiv : Just realised monthly candle turned green
15:27 Subhodeep : probably process of mlkng shall strt then
15:27 Jitender : yearly also Rajiv..i think
15:27 MJ : Shai closer to your city.
15:27 Uttam : Monthly lows were saved ny a couple of points
15:28 MJ : Kamshet 🙂
15:28 Shai : very less Bopp for expiry
15:29 Uttam : BN spot has scaled above the weekly ext hanget above 27225 for the next leg updle of 27150 and now needs to
15:29 Jitender : bye all
15:29 Shai : Bye all
15:29 Boppanna : ok thx Shai
15:29 Boppanna : bye all
15:29 Shai : Have a nice evening
15:29 Subhodeep : byebye and godo evening
15:29 Uttam : thanks All 🙂 have a lovely evening
15:30 TP : Bye All.
15:31 Rahul Desai : Bye everyone
15:35 Himanshu : bye all thanks
10:17 Uttam : TTM now support at 171 Shai?
10:17 Uttam : Infy giving a initiative buy today?
10:21 TP : Shai views on MARUTI , for id.
10:47 Subhodeep : shai pos view on adani ports you had mentioned add on dips dipped well today …
10:48 Subhodeep : shoudl i wait for a better price or initiate operations at cmp
11:04 Shai : yes 171 supp ttm
11:04 Shai : won;t cross 177 though
11:04 Shai : could be a normal day
11:04 Uttam : thanks Shai
11:05 Shai : infy old buyers at 728 are the ref zone but I did see loss of mometum same day at 737
11:05 Shai : 742 ref now but good abv 728
11:05 Uttam : ok Shai, thanks 🙂
11:05 Shai : maruti 6880may be tested intra sk above 6966
11:07 Shai : adani 333 was the supp, not liking this move below 333 and has big sellers
11:08 Shai : adani power and adani ent also popping up in my OI limit
11:08 Shai : so tjere could be something more here
11:14 TP : tks chief .
11:18 Subhodeep : adani ent int he last half hr last dayhad a9 percent odd moved
11:19 Subhodeep : settled at 5 percent upfo rht eday if i remember right
12:12 Jatin : shai bharti u covered last week,still good?
12:13 Jatin : have news to buy:)
12:23 Shai : Bharti may not go immediately up again this week but is on track for 333 now in 2 weeks
12:36 Subhodeep : shai adani ent id and positional view
13:20 Uttam : (10:17) Uttam : Infy giving a initiative buy today?(11:05) Shai : 742 ref now but good abv 728 Infy sustaining above 742 and now at 747
13:44 Subhodeep : shai jub sung abck to 1280 now any calrity on the swing obj?
13:44 Subhodeep : 1315 1330 1280 references
13:59 Shai : very well balanced with 1265 as the last supp
13:59 Shai : if hel jubl can bounce back to 1330 region
14:02 Gaurav : Shai Can short TATACOMM march and buy UBL march?
14:11 Shai : UBL on track for 1400/ 1408 in march
14:11 Shai : can buy dips with sl below 1320
14:13 Shai : tata commshort is aggressive here . should not cross 565 in my view. That is the fixed Sl if shiorting – 565
14:19 Subhodeep : shai jubilant balamce threatened?
14:20 Shai : below 1265 only
14:21 Subhodeep : good to go long at thesel vls below 1265 as sl ?
14:21 Subhodeep : id wise?
14:24 Shai : no trend lower
14:24 Shai : swing could be buy near close
14:25 Gaurav : Thanks Shai
14:27 Subhodeep : noted shai thanks