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Room Chat
08:48 Suhas : good morning all
08:51 Himanshu : GM – Suhas
08:53 Manoj : good morning guys
08:53 Bhupinder : God Morning
08:53 Rajan : Good morning all
08:54 Prateeek : Good morning friends
08:56 Himanshu : GM – all friends here..#
08:56 Vishnu : gm all
08:57 Krishan : gm
08:57 Abhijith : Gm all
08:58 Rajesh G : good morning
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09:00 Amit N : Good Morning all
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09:01 Chintan : GM all
09:01 Neeraj : GM all
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09:02 Shai : GM all
09:03 Chandrashekhar : GM all
09:04 Leela : good morning guys
09:05 Shai : Higgher ref at 8944- 8970 F todat
09:06 Shai : 8737 is early supp along with 8555 lower
09:06 Shai : look to see if yesterday’s reds cover either 8555 or 8737 or add more
09:08 Uttam : Good Morning All 🙂
09:08 Lokesh : GM all
09:08 Sanjib : @Shai: How to approach the 3 IB Rule today? Do we wait till IB Period or get direction from COT?
09:09 Tejpreet : GM All.
09:09 Yugal null : GM all
09:09 VaibhavG : GM all
09:10 Seshadri : gm
09:10 Yugal null : I am new to this room ,do i need to join chart as well ?
09:11 Uttam : welcome Yugal
09:11 Uttam : joinme link has the 5min OF chart of NF for a longer timeframe
09:11 Uttam : same is there in the room also but a lesser number of 5min bars
09:11 Yugal null : Hi Uttam , thanks !
09:13 Vishnu : ug u said 8 extn handle can u put it here
09:13 Vishnu : nf
09:13 Yugal null : i trade on bnf
09:14 Ashwath : GM guys
09:16 Shai : How many short on close yesterday?
09:16 Vijay : Me
09:16 Ashwath : me
09:16 Ketan : m
09:16 Kiran null : me
09:17 Shai : or you went long like the kids who thought a 10% rise was a change of trend 🙂
09:17 Rajan : around 3L
09:17 Shai : nice
09:17 Himanshu : me short with option#
09:17 Shai : trust the COT everything will be fine
09:18 Ketan : +1.
09:18 Prateeek : Facing issues in upstox. anyone can confirm
09:19 Sanjib Roy : Me also Shai
09:19 Sachin : yes, i pulled out all trading money from upstox, will do zerodha and trying out aliceblue
09:19 Prateeek : ok sachin. thanks
09:20 Vishnu : i booked the pe 50 points gained shai
09:20 Rajan : @Shai – premium is down to 20 points
09:22 Shai : 🙂
09:22 Uttam : BNF testing yVWAP
09:22 Shai : That’s why the short was not working yesterday
09:23 VaibhavG : shai what volume of the COT should be taken as a benchmark for deciding the trade/st trend?
09:24 Shai : rules of IB and IS and RS/ RB
09:25 Shai : first IS came late at 3.15 yesterday
09:25 Vishnu : 8701 need to taken out . 0s are there
09:25 Shai : refer notes
09:25 Sandesh : good morning all
09:26 Boppanna : COT turning
09:27 Boppanna : BNF vwap defended as well
09:27 Boppanna : *yvwap
09:28 Vishnu : 8720-8775 nf did
09:29 Uttam : boom boom
09:29 Uttam : 19000ce from 269 to 30
09:30 Uttam : more coming
09:30 Uttam : 269 to 330
09:30 Boppanna : +1 Uttam
09:31 Yash : round one done 😀
09:31 Uttam : this was key – (09:22) Uttam : BNF testing yVWAP
09:31 Uttam : COT turned positive here
09:31 Uttam : RB + IB in BNF
09:31 Uttam : 18700 sup
09:32 Seshadri : bounced from 8737 NF
09:35 Yash : that 8890 guys is clear about things 😀
09:35 Uttam : BNF getting big greens here
09:36 Uttam : 43k COT in this bar
09:36 Ankit : 86k ce 252 to 277
09:37 Boppanna : 82K COT in NF as well a fight there
09:41 Shai : closure of shorts in NF it is
09:41 Shai : support is come back at 8755
09:43 Shai : Intra – Buy NF 8850 sl of 8740 tgt 8970
09:43 Ashwath : +1
09:44 Sameer : In upstox put order for 19000CE at 360, got executed at 439 🙁
09:45 Chandrashekhar : 8800 CE 140 – 205
09:45 Shai : 8969
09:46 Yash : Done and dusted 😀
09:46 Shai : that moved quickly off 8850
09:46 Shai : if anyone in – book away
09:46 Ketan : +1 shai
09:46 Ashwath : +1
09:46 Govind : Yes Shai, got it though 🙂
09:46 Ankit : +1 shai
09:47 Chandrashekhar : +1 Shai
09:47 Govind : 8900CE from 124 to 170
09:47 Uttam : 8800ce from 162 to 222
09:47 Uttam : 159 to 222
09:47 Govind : Congo Uttam
09:48 Ashwath : Thanks Uttam..
09:48 Ashwath : Thanks Shai
09:48 Yash : this bar has some nice volume
09:48 Ankit : congo govind and uttam
09:48 Ashwath : vwap testing msg was very helpful for me Uttam
09:48 Vijay : 5DT done
09:48 Ashwath : thanks a lot.
09:48 Uttam : boom boom2
09:48 Govind : Uttam, this 8950 to 9050 saw some reversal on 26th and 27th right
09:48 Uttam : BNF is the best here
09:49 Uttam : beast*
09:49 Uttam : 19550 coming?
09:49 Govind : Thanks Ankit
09:49 Amit Jain : 19000 CE 288 595 4dt done.. thank ug
09:49 Amit Jain : congrats every one
09:49 Swapnil : Remember you saying that yeserday Uttam, that BNF still has wings.
09:50 Ankit : 88k ce 205 to 238
09:50 Uttam : The Neutral Extreme reference for the coming session would be from 18893 to 19250 below which the other 2 extension handles along with today’s VWAP of 18507 would be the important references as BNF looks to tag that VPOC of 19550.
09:50 Uttam : BNF playing to the plan, tested yVWAP took support & missile launched
09:50 Uttam : almost 1000 pointer in no time
09:52 Uttam : 9060 coming in NF?
09:53 Shai : 3 IB’s we have
09:53 Shai : so yesterday’s shorts are covering
09:53 Shai : in NF
09:53 Uttam : yes Shai that COT needed a reset?
09:55 Uttam : 19250 ref in BNF
09:58 Prakash : COT # changed…
09:59 Shai : Yes
09:59 Vishnu : shai nevers seen this type of cots continously from yest all are negative for more thabn 1.5 lakhs
10:00 Shai : Short NF below 8915 sl of 8979 tgt 8840
10:00 Shai : @Vishnu what does that tell you?
10:01 Vishnu : one side profit booking shai
10:01 Shai : which means?
10:01 Vishnu : other side some are building short positions at higher levls?
10:01 Prakash : Shorts entering
10:01 Vishnu : no new demand
10:02 Shai : perfect-(10:01) Vishnu : no new demand
10:02 Vijay : One observation from yesterday, As currency market opening has changed from 9am to 10am there was a change in trend yesterday after 10, Experts your thoughts on this if this observation is valid or does not make sense?
10:02 Vishnu : am i correct shai ?
10:03 Vishnu : thanks shai some highly intellectual player here . retailers ko mkt going to reverse kahke uska position building .
10:04 Vishnu : now the tv wala poora will say nifty will start hit 10k 11k like and retailers will start buy
10:04 Shai : 8916 and up
10:05 Uttam : 19497 so far – (09:49) Uttam : 19550 coming?
10:05 Shai : break below 8915 is a short
10:05 Uttam : tested this – (09:55) Uttam : 19250 ref in BNF
10:05 Shai : Remmeber all this COt is not intra day like you and me. They are longer time frame of the kidn we saw at 12700 last month
10:05 Shai : And you know what happened from there
10:06 Shai : don’t think everyone plays for 200 to 300 points
10:06 Shai : These are big whales here
10:06 Sandesh : +1
10:06 Ashwath : +1
10:06 Himanshu : chief they are buliding shorts here
10:06 Ashwath : Thanks for the BIG picture
10:06 Himanshu : casue yday – tday all 30 ,t cot are negative
10:07 Sagar : what type of open this is
10:07 Sanjib Roy : So can we say IS player is mostly intra ?
10:08 Uttam : OAIR with a late ORR up
10:09 Uttam : done dana done – (09:48) Uttam : BNF is the best here(09:49) Uttam : beast*(09:49) Uttam : 19550 coming?
10:09 Ankit : bnf
10:09 Uttam : 19549.95 high
10:10 Ashwath : +1
10:10 Ketan : +1 ug
10:10 Sanjib : Congrats UG
10:11 Govind : RBL and Indus in UC
10:11 Boppanna : Bingo Uttam as always
10:11 Sagar : can we go long here
10:11 Ankit : 9041 coming?
10:12 Uttam : 1atr next ref in BNF
10:12 Uttam : a nice 3IB set up also in place today so lets see how the auction plays out
10:13 Boppanna : C here
10:14 Jitender : bnffffff
10:14 Prakash : C Extn
10:14 Uttam : bola tha beaast mode is on in BNF
10:14 Boppanna : Jit u holding since ywap?
10:14 Uttam : 19820 is that FA whcih is on T+% days today
10:15 Uttam : T+5
10:15 Sagar : upstox stuck i want ot exist i am long from 420 in BNF
10:15 Uttam : lol
10:15 Ankit : kotak stuck
10:15 Ankit : sq off didnt happen
10:15 Uttam : yes Ankit sinc morning issues in it so did not trade in it at all
10:15 Ankit : damn it
10:15 Jitender : BoP..2 small trades…bookd
10:15 Jitender : just watchn
10:16 Ankit : yeah uttam..aadhe trad to ye log kharabb kar dete hain
10:16 Uttam : 19777
10:16 Uttam : 19818 is 1atr
10:16 Uttam : 19820 is last weeks FA
10:16 Saheer : i think many broker have issues, data feed delays too
10:16 Uttam : longs booking in BNF looks like
10:17 Uttam : boom boom part 3?
10:17 Uttam : 19820 here
10:17 Jitender : any pos uttam ?
10:17 Boppanna : ok cool no trades for me yet all hw done but bad execution today expected mornig vwap test but was slow to react and Uttam just didn’t let me enter
10:17 Uttam : all booked out Jit but had a nice ride
10:17 Jitender : k
10:17 Ankit : 9030 all out
10:17 Sagar : still not wokring inned to bnoook the profit
10:18 Ankit : may do more.
10:18 Uttam : 9060 coming in NF
10:18 Ankit : 9041 i was looking for
10:18 Ankit : okay uttam
10:18 Ankit : 1.5 Ib done
10:18 Boppanna : congts guys..
10:18 Uttam : lol in just 4mins
10:18 Ankit : hehe yea
10:18 Uttam : 19950-967 next ref in BNF
10:19 Boppanna : day still young should be nice day with lot of opportunities
10:19 Uttam : yes Bops
10:19 Jitender : congo all in green
10:19 Ankit : boom gone
10:19 Uttam : yeh lo
10:19 Uttam : 9060 here in NF
10:19 Uttam : 20k in BNF
10:20 Tejpreet : Looks like algos/bot got 9400 printed on the t shirts 😉
10:20 Sachin : this is FII’s
10:20 Boppanna : Tej wanted 9K yesterday and made sure IB gets him there
10:20 Sagar : i must be so rich but upstox not wokring cmon yar ‘
10:20 Uttam : lol Sagar
10:20 Uttam : nice situation to be in
10:20 Sagar : 600 BNF points
10:21 Uttam : NF shorts being removed looks like?
10:21 Uttam : BNF booking continues
10:21 Vishnu : 9000-9100 nf did and 2 dt done
10:22 Uttam : BNF mein aag lagi huyi hai 😉
10:22 Saheer : indusind in circuit
10:22 VaibhavG : COT are red but market a rocket<can anybody please throw some light
10:22 Vishnu : 1.5 ib 9134
10:22 Sagar : i will kill upstox owner if i not able book proift
10:22 Ankit : yes 9135
10:22 Uttam : 1750 points in 75 minutes
10:23 Govind : 9300CE 212 to 313
10:23 Govind : monthly
10:23 Uttam : congo Gov
10:23 Ankit : +1 gov
10:23 Sameer : I have only one trading account and thats upstox … #nooption 🙁
10:23 Sanjib : I think I'll shift to BNF from now on
10:23 Govind : all done
10:23 Sagar : anyone elese not able to login to upstox ?
10:23 Ashwath : bnf…. uffff. uffff..
10:23 Govind : thanks guys
10:23 Uttam : whoooo
10:23 Uttam : BNF going for UC?
10:23 Prateeek : sagar. i am there.
10:23 Lakshay : upstox working fin e now
10:23 Sameer : Nope Sagar … cant login
10:24 Abhijith : upstock sucks
10:24 Ankit : keatpro gone for a toss
10:24 Shai : C ext is a mighty one
10:24 Uttam : browser login working in Kotak Ankit
10:24 Uttam : 2100 & cointing BNF range so far
10:24 Ankit : acha ok
10:24 Ankit : switching
10:24 Govind : Zerodha is taking a few minutes to release funds back to the account once you sqaure off
10:25 Govind : other than that, no issues
10:25 Vishnu : bigger shai
10:26 Sameer : I guess Upstox facing Thundering herd problem
10:26 Prateeek : upstox eternity ke liye chala gaya hai. maybe becayse if lockdown
10:27 Ankit : watchlist mein strikes add karne pad rahe hain
10:27 Ankit : 😛
10:27 Kushal : anyone using fyers?
10:28 Uttam : 9159 is a VPOC in NF
10:28 Sanjib : Profile chart in BNF needs adjustment
10:29 Govind : NF almost at the 9150/60 target of extended hypo
10:31 Jitender : pls zoom in on bnf 5min
10:31 Boppanna : C side and -1lkh COT 9100pe 168-188 first trade quick in out
10:33 Yash : whats happening, :-s
10:33 Yash : singles since morning,
10:34 Vishnu : shai nf mp in room to be adjuestd
10:37 Yash : weak shorts taken out?
10:38 Uttam : 9000pe from 149 tp 159
10:38 Uttam : kotak first trade
10:38 Ankit : +1 bro
10:39 Uttam : placed via browser Ankit
10:39 Ankit : yes using the same
10:39 Govind : +1 Uttam
10:39 Ankit : now in a while UG will post Dt from kotak browser done
10:39 Ankit : then DT from APP done
10:39 Uttam : mobile app working now
10:39 Ankit : then DT from keat
10:39 Ankit : 😛
10:39 Ankit : hehe
10:39 Uttam : lol
10:41 Uttam : tat 1L red COT in NF could get some dip – reason fro that 9000pe trade
10:41 Boppanna : copy cat Uttam 🙂
10:41 Ankit : good one bro
10:42 Uttam : 9044 was this series high before today & looks like taking sup there
10:42 Uttam : we all copy Shai na Bops 😉
10:42 Boppanna : +1 BNF PWH taking supp for now
10:43 Uttam : weekly VAH also 19750
10:44 Jitender : fr me mkt is untradable
10:44 Jitender : will preserve 0.3 of Dt made
10:44 Tejpreet : Same here Jit at .7 dt and not punching anything.
10:44 Ankit : thats also a strategy jit
10:44 Ankit : and i kind of agree with you
10:45 Ankit : 🙂
10:45 Jitender : n kudos to u all who made money…u r better traders ..than me atleast 🙂
10:45 Uttam : yes yes udaao udao
10:45 Kushal : add upstox order val to tat Jit… hands on hands approach
10:46 Sagar : upstox up
10:46 Uttam : Sagar you booked?
10:46 Govind : Just 2 trades Jit, did 1 dt with real low vols.
10:46 Sagar : 19900 only 500 points
10:46 Sagar : it coud have been 1000 BNF points
10:46 Ankit : 8960 possible?
10:46 Sachin : i was getting crushed, broke even post brokerage cost, i am out for the day – this is way too quick for me
10:47 Sachin : i was mainly doing bn
10:48 Sagar : still 4 DT done
10:48 Uttam : that 9000pe gets fresh legs above 177
10:48 Shai : below 9010 we get a trip to vwap
10:48 Uttam : +1
10:48 Ankit : 9000 pe 156 to 175
10:48 Uttam : super Ankit
10:49 Shai : sl of 9090
10:49 Uttam : take out 177 and can do 222-231 that PE
10:49 Shai : Past couple of hours the market and the system has not confirmed
10:49 Ankit : +1 shai
10:49 Shai : I don't see a reason to go long
10:49 Ankit : thx ug
10:50 Shai : Those who made money congrats
10:50 Seshadri : i had bought put in the closing which i squared off in the morning 9.17
10:50 Shai : All hell breaks lose if these shorts push it below 8930 F today
10:51 Abhijith : Shai,over 1 crore volume in 1 hour, in NF..is this shorts by smart money
10:51 Shai : for those who DM'd me on going long, my system does not allow a long here so I let this pass
10:52 Shai : Does not mean it is short, just letting this pass
10:52 Shai : will respond on an IS
10:53 Uttam : +1 Shai
10:53 Uttam : IS here at 9030?
10:53 Ankit : _/\_ shai
10:54 Shai : yes 9090- 9113 sl for the second IS from yesterday
10:54 Shai : shoulkd bring vwap
10:55 Shrishti : Hi sorry i am new here- what is IS standing for?
10:55 Uttam : IS is Initiative selling
10:55 Ankit : 9000 pe 168 to 182 again
10:55 Ankit : 8960 i am out
10:55 Shrishti : got it thank you
10:55 Uttam : 🙂 +1
10:55 Ankit : will follow shai now
10:56 Ankit : _/\_
10:56 Jitender : Ankit..no revenge tradn
10:56 Ankit : hehe you are bang on!
10:56 Ankit : -/\_
10:56 Jitender : 19.5pe 373-454
10:56 Ankit : yes jit… thank you for reminding
10:56 Ankit : 🙂
10:57 Ankit : +100 jit
10:57 Seshadri : watch video no 8 to undertand IS/IB/RS/RB Shrishti
10:57 Ankit : will stay light or off now… done for the day sorts
10:57 Uttam : 22k red in NF stuck?
10:58 Shrishti : thank you seshadri
10:58 MJ : Looks like uttam. Stopped the down move for now.
10:59 Yash : shorts not working for me today!
10:59 Uttam : hes out that 22k red
10:59 Uttam : 21300 green at top
10:59 MJ : 21300?
11:02 Vishnu : ibh support taking
11:04 KK : Isn't IBH broken ?
11:06 Uttam : RS+IS forming on 30mins but need this bar to get completed
11:06 Uttam : could be a nice set up
11:06 Sagar : for long ?
11:06 Uttam : yes long puts
11:06 Ankit : long kaise sagar?
11:06 Sagar : ok
11:07 Seshadri : COT is shwoing selling
11:07 Shrishti : RS is?
11:07 Uttam : responsive selling
11:07 Uttam : initiative selling = IS
11:08 Sagar : thanks
11:08 Uttam : same with RB & IB
11:08 Shrishti : got it thank you
11:08 Seshadri : if we move below 8970 then we are heading to 8910
11:08 Uttam : VWAP break on big red COT will be the signal to short
11:09 Shrishti : And which video shall i see to understand Cot? i have read mind over markets so i understandb basics of mp but no idea of OF
11:09 Uttam : 8940-30 zone
11:09 Seshadri : watch all 8 video
11:09 Uttam : @Shrishti you would have got a welcome mail with the links in it
11:09 Seshadri : you will get hang of evverything
11:10 Seshadri : follow Shai for next 1week to understand trades
11:10 Vishnu : what a market 1000 point rally and all in negative cot
11:10 Shrishti : got it
11:10 Uttam : that 8968 getting another 28k red stuck?
11:11 Vishnu : todays high will be imp reference 9144
11:11 KK : BNF says..I am done.
11:12 Uttam : vwap test done in BNF
11:12 Uttam : RB at 19600
11:12 Uttam : and forming IB here
11:13 Seshadri : ok Uttam
11:18 Ankit : timely alert uttam
11:18 Ankit : +10 to you
11:18 Ankit : +100
11:19 Govind : boom coming?
11:20 Yash null : forming P?
11:23 Ashwath : PWH = Previous Week high?
11:23 Uttam : yes
11:23 Ashwath : +1
11:24 Yash null : ping pon between 9150 to 8950?
11:28 Ankit : yep.. NTZ yash
11:29 Boppanna : Shai is it possible to refocus the MP charts of BNF?
11:30 Sagar : os
11:32 Swapnil : IS is here
11:32 Yash null : shai, can we go short below 8962?
11:32 Yash null : or we wait for vwap?
11:32 Govind : reversed oretty fast once that RS could not be taken out in NF
11:32 Govind : pretty*
11:35 Kushal : 9038 spot resistance?
11:36 Jitender : 19.2pe 245-351
11:36 Jitender : bc
11:36 KK : News on COVID
11:36 Jitender : 0.9dt
11:36 Ankit : amazing
11:36 Ankit : haha
11:36 Govind : Red COT at VWAP as Uttam wanted
11:36 Ankit : congo jit
11:36 Chintan : +1 jit
11:36 Govind : Congo Jit
11:37 Uttam : 9000pe from 177 to 186 2nd trade done in Kotak
11:37 Uttam : boom boom downside now
11:37 Jitender : now peace pipe
11:37 Govind : 8800PE monthly from 335 to 379.8
11:37 Uttam : 50k red at 8930
11:37 Govind : COngo Uttam
11:37 Jitender : congo Gov & Uttam
11:38 Sandesh : finally… 🙂
11:38 Sameer : sudden 1% drop in US futures in few minutes
11:38 Jitender : tis is wat happens on thin vols
11:38 Jitender : all Sebi doing
11:38 Govind : Yes Samir
11:38 Govind : Sameer*
11:38 Sameer : sudden drop of 1% in US futures in last few minutes
11:39 Sandesh : trust VT trust COT
11:39 Uttam : +1000 Baba
11:39 Vishnu : newplayer vwap broken 0 s vwap and is happenend
11:40 Uttam : (10:54) Shai : yes 9090- 9113 sl for the second IS from yesterday(10:54) Shai : shoulkd bring vwap
11:40 Govind : Shai had mentioned 8915 earlier
11:40 Uttam : 8930
11:40 Uttam : below it can bring more downside shai had said
11:41 Govind : he had said to go short below 8915
11:41 Uttam : (10:50) Shai : All hell breaks lose if these shorts push it below 8930 F today
11:41 Govind : Yes, and also see 10:05 message
11:41 Uttam : 10:50 latest na bhai 🙂
11:41 Uttam : more info came by then
11:42 Ankit : 9000 pe 178 to 210
11:42 Govind : _/\_yes sir
11:42 Vijay : Congo Guys
11:42 Sameer : middle of day…upstox still loging and order issues
11:42 Uttam : take that 9000pe above 231 now
11:43 Uttam : will be nice
11:43 Prateeek : even upstox quotes shown were incorrect.
11:43 Ankit : new candle coming
11:44 Shai : headed to day lows
11:44 Yugal null : bnf?
11:44 Uttam : super Shai 🙂
11:44 Govind : Wow Shai
11:45 Sameer : shit. upstox ..cant do anythingfg
11:45 Shai : 9058 ref line again
11:45 Tejpreet : Jit score ?
11:45 Govind : futures @ discount
11:45 Boppanna : borrowing Jit's peace pipe ;)19550-19100
11:45 Shai : (10:50) Shai : All hell breaks lose if these shorts push it below 8930 F today
11:45 Seshadri : +1000 shai
11:45 Ankit : +1000 shai
11:46 Ankit : i llove this kind of day
11:46 Govind : +1 Shai
11:46 Ketan : superb shai !
11:46 Ashwath : +1 Shai
11:46 Tejpreet : 11 min for 1 dt…+100 Shai.
11:46 Vijay : Any News?
11:47 Jitender : Tej…18.5pe 310-301 Dt done
11:47 Jitender : 210-301
11:47 Shai : 8960 trailing Sl for day shorts – (11:45) Shai : 9058 ref line again
11:47 Chintan : COT is the news
11:48 Vijay : lol
11:48 Chintan : hehe
11:48 Tejpreet : +1 Jit.
11:48 Boppanna : +100 Shai
11:48 Jitender : tx bro
11:48 Yash null : 9200 pe trailing
11:48 Uttam : congo Jit
11:48 Kushal : +1 Jit
11:48 Jitender : tx guys
11:49 Boppanna : +1 for this round of green guys
11:49 Jitender : 2000 up n 1500 dw n bnf…
11:49 Uttam : 9000pe from 231 to 276 50% booked
11:49 Jitender : +1
11:49 Uttam : rest at 294 kept order
11:49 Shai : 90 left
11:49 Tejpreet : +1 Uttam
11:49 Boppanna : Uttam printing it 🙂
11:49 Govind : Congrats to all
11:49 Uttam : super set up it was Bops
11:49 Ashwath : +1 Uttam
11:49 Uttam : with Shai's stamp on it
11:50 Jitender : see guys how Shai waited fr his trade and is killing it now….tats hw trading is to be done
11:50 Prateeek : 8900 pe from 150 to 210. upstox just reacted in time it seems
11:50 Ankit : all out
11:50 Prateeek : +1 jit
11:50 Ankit : +1 jit
11:50 Chintan : +110 jit
11:50 Ankit : Be a sniper (shai)
11:50 Jitender : if u r here & not understanding it….wat can be said
11:50 Ketan : well said Jit ! awesome Shai !
11:50 Jitender : understand the Master ie Shai
11:50 Kushal : +100 Jit
11:50 Uttam : +1000 _/\_
11:50 Jitender : and tis is conservative pro trading
11:50 Saheer : +1000 Jit
11:51 Chintan : yes jit … rightly said
11:51 Jitender : dont jump…wait the trade to come to u
11:51 Kushal : Shai = consistency of process 🙂
11:51 Jitender : yes
11:51 Amit N : +100
11:51 Jitender : yes
11:51 Jitender : yes
11:51 Jitender : pls ingrain it in yr mind
11:51 Shai : _/\_- (11:50) Jitender : understand the Master ie Shai
11:52 Shai : +1- (11:50) Jitender : if u r here & not understanding it….wat can be said
11:52 Chintan : shots covering shai ?
11:52 Ankit : vwap coming?
11:52 Uttam : yes all of us booked na Cintan 🙂
11:52 Boppanna : For the new joiners just read all Shai's commentary each and every day you will survive any kind of market before you take a trade and just give a shout out if you don;t follow any stmt he makes
11:52 Ankit : haha +1 uttam
11:52 Govind : Best environment to learn and trade with the best trader leading us!!
11:53 Chintan : yes UG … i am asking this blue cot
11:53 Uttam : POC shifting higher in this 5min bar
11:53 Shrishti : thanks everyone. this has been so helpful alreADY
11:54 Shrishti : all shorts are booked or half
11:54 Uttam : congrats Shrishti, it will keep getting better if you apply yourself 🙂
11:55 Himanshu : 5 minute is lagging
11:55 Himanshu : can we restart
11:55 Seshadri : _/\_ bopanna
11:55 Rajan : @SHai – with these two IS, are we expecting to break today's low??
11:55 Shai : Aggressive shoirt here sl of 8889 tgt 8710 cmp 8830
11:55 Ankit : look at the SPX last 30 min candle..crazy
11:56 Ankit : okay shai
11:56 Shai : conservative day sl is still 8965
11:56 Kushal : DL still on Shai?
11:57 Shai : yes
11:58 Kushal : +1 Shai
12:00 Shai : exit for now. we short again at vwap
12:01 Rajiv Ohri : Shai can 3IB rule still play out
12:01 Shai : yes was 3IB day and minus COT
12:01 Shai : At 10.48- (10:49) Shai : I don't see a reason to go long
12:03 Shai : shiort again sl of 8966
12:04 Shai : tgt 8815/ 8710
12:05 Himanshu : chief – join me 5 mt s lagging by one candle
12:05 Shai : one candle?
12:06 Himanshu : almist
12:06 Himanshu : ist hwos 3o points some time
12:07 Shai : it's fine for me
12:07 Shai : Anyone else has this issue?
12:08 Vishnu : no
12:08 Ravi Kumar : no
12:08 Prakash : Nope
12:08 Shai : log off and come back
12:08 Govind : FIne HImanshu
12:08 Shai : it should be fine
12:09 Himanshu : ok
12:09 Shai : reduce 50%
12:10 Shai : need that 8810 to break of good COT
12:10 Vijay : 9kpe 196-240
12:10 Ankit : +1 vijay
12:11 Govind : congo Vijay
12:11 Vijay : thank you guys
12:13 Uttam : 8800pe OI not falling
12:14 Uttam : CE OI also staying same
12:19 Shai : Need some one to push this below 8670 spot today . we are at 8876
12:19 Shai : I'll give you 1000 extra by next week 🙂
12:19 Uttam : 🙂
12:19 Chintan : ohh
12:20 Chintan : 🙂
12:20 Shai : will buy monthly 7600 piuts
12:20 Chintan : gr8
12:20 Chintan : +1
12:20 Ankit : inshallah
12:20 Vishnu : when shai once it break 8670?
12:20 Vishnu : 7600 pe to take
12:20 Govind : +1 Shai
12:20 Shai : vix above 56 will be your chance to buy those puts
12:21 Shrishti : Shai why do we wait for high vix?
12:21 Chintan : okay
12:22 Yash null : 8750 de do koi 😀
12:22 Shai : market adding shorts – (12:21) Shrishti : Shai why do we wait for high vix?
12:22 Shai : shoukd break 8810 now
12:23 Abhishek Lalwani : shai 100 pt premium yday now 10 pt discount ur analysis on that
12:24 Kushal : coiling at vpoc
12:25 Jitender : Abhi..fryday eod was sell off at close…..n ten we opened gap up tuesday..due to global rally
12:25 Uttam : both NF & BNF have a nice probable excess at highs 🙂
12:25 Jitender : with the thin vols….market depth and money rquired to manipulate mkt is easily calculatable
12:26 Jitender : i believe fryday eod sum longs were taken and algo's went ballastic yday….wiping out entire depth
12:26 Sumit Bajaj : excess wil be confirmed when ?
12:26 Jitender : and induced strong SC…wich continued
12:26 Jitender : theese guys…booked
12:26 Jitender : tats y sharp dip
12:26 Jitender : n nw mkt is left to its normal sway
12:27 Uttam : EOD – (12:26) Sumit Bajaj : excess wil be confirmed when ?
12:27 Uttam : if that tail at top remains
12:27 Ankit : +1 jit
12:27 Ankit : its all making sense
12:27 Ankit : thanks 🙂
12:27 Jitender : and it was FII…coz tey were clued into spx & sgx
12:28 Jitender : in bear mkts…SC rallies are ferocious
12:28 Vijay : Great Reading Jit!!
12:28 Jitender : coz fr SC….environment of uncertainity fr shrts needs to be created
12:29 Jitender : 5000 bps in bnf & 2500 bps in nf approx were swiped in just 1000 odd cr
12:30 Abhishek Lalwani : thanks jit
12:30 Jitender : wc
12:30 Ankit : reminds me of a movie: the illusionist
12:30 Ankit : thx jit
12:30 Jitender : wc
12:30 Chintan : Thanks jit for the inputs 🙂
12:30 Govind : Thanks for the master class Jit
12:31 Govind : Europe opens in the red
12:31 Kushal : thnks for insights jit..:)
12:31 Kushal : yes Gov\
12:31 Jitender : wc guys
12:32 Vishnu : jit +100
12:32 Uttam : weak shorts being removed in NF?
12:32 Uttam : 28k green & 16k green at top on 5 mins
12:33 Jitender : tats y i said at Delhi & will say again…dont be sad wen SL hits…be happy…coz it free's u of a not wrkn trade and gets u open to the next oppr
12:33 Uttam : OTF down since C period on both
12:33 Jitender : tis was the nt the first time tis kind of manipulation was done & certainly nt the last
12:33 Uttam : _/\_ satyavachan guruji +100 – (12:33) Jitender : tats y i said at Delhi & will say again…dont be sad wen SL hits…be happy…coz it free's u of a not wrkn trade and gets u open to the next oppr
12:37 Amit N : Thanks Jit, Shai, UG. Learning new things everyday _/\_
12:37 Uttam : hammer man getting ready?
12:37 Yash null : now?
12:38 Govind : Nice coil here UG
12:39 Govind : here we go
12:41 Vishnu : 8890-8830 nf did
12:41 Shai : +1- (12:33) Jitender : tats y i said at Delhi & will say again…dont be sad wen SL hits…be happy…coz it free's u of a not wrkn trade and gets u open to the next oppr
12:42 Shai : step 1 – (12:22) Shai : shoukd break 8810 now
12:42 Shai : we have a job to do guys come on
12:42 Uttam : 8800pe from 130 to 145
12:43 Srinivas : 19k pe 380 – 500 .. I did my job 😉
12:43 Govind : Nice Uttam
12:43 Vijay : 8700pe 80-100
12:43 Govind : Sri and Vijay as well
12:43 Sanjib : Congo guys
12:43 Vijay : thank you
12:43 Shai : hoold at 8966 day shorts
12:43 Shai : Good chance of this being a neu X close
12:43 Uttam : was about to ask that Shai 🙂
12:44 Srinivas : thx Gov
12:44 KK : SPX back up
12:44 Yash null : means shai?
12:45 Yash null : new X close?
12:45 Vishnu : 2.2 dt done as of now
12:46 Uttam : congo Vishnu
12:46 Srinivas : +1 u r rocking Vishnu
12:46 Uttam : @Yahs you know about Day Types in Market Profile?
12:46 Govind : COngo Vishnu
12:46 Uttam : Yash*
12:47 Amit Jain : congrats vishnu
12:47 Uttam : day lows coming?
12:47 Govind : Cherry COT
12:47 Shai : Biys are getting it done :)- (12:42) Shai : we have a job to do guys come on
12:48 Jitender : +1
12:48 Uttam : Boys playing well 😉
12:48 Tejpreet : Captian leading the boys 🙂
12:48 Uttam : yes of course as always 🙂
12:48 Amit Jain : +1
12:48 Vishnu : tanks all
12:49 Tejpreet : Jit mazzza aa gaya ….loaded on monthly 85k around 294
12:49 Uttam : (12:37) Uttam : hammer man getting ready?
12:49 Shai : That is NO 5 IS from open
12:49 Shai : Against 1 yesterday at close
12:49 Jitender : awesum Tej
12:49 Shai : now you see why we didn't drop yesterday?
12:49 Rajan : +100 Shai
12:50 Vijay : +100
12:50 Vijay : Congo Tej
12:50 Chintan : yes shai
12:50 Chintan : congo. tej
12:50 Tejpreet : Captain next level below 8720 for the boys to get
12:50 Amit Jain : +100 shai super convictions
12:50 Tejpreet : tks guys.
12:50 Abhijith : Shai, tgt 8710?
12:50 Shai : big one is 8664
12:50 Tejpreet : yes sir
12:50 Shai : below that just put the sail up and ride 🙂
12:51 Tejpreet : wah
12:51 Sameer : sudden 1% drop in indices and upstox stops working 🙁
12:51 Uttam : spot back to that 8760 level Shai
12:52 Shai : 8670
12:52 Uttam : oh ok +1
12:56 Uttam : BNF also looks set for 18200 & 17500 from here
12:57 Srinivas : are these targets for today, UG?
12:57 Uttam : no
12:57 Srinivas : hehe.. thx 😉
12:59 Rajesh G : shai what levels to short now
12:59 Sameer : Uttam, 17500 likely by tomm expiry ?
13:00 Shai : 8840 aggressive sl for new shorts here tgt 8660
13:00 Uttam : 17540 is the VPOC that could get tagged tom as Friday is a holiday
13:00 Shai : conservative SL for day is still 8966
13:01 Tejpreet : Uttam can you paste 12.50 comment of Shai on tab 2
13:02 Tejpreet : tks Uttam
13:02 Uttam : +1 🙂
13:05 Sagar : 0s
13:05 Tejpreet : Looks like bot didn't like Uttam putting that in tab 2.
13:05 Uttam : lol
13:06 Boppanna : lol H couldn't push thru A's singles
13:07 KK : NiFTY Spot running
13:07 Sagar : boom boom coming ?
13:07 Shai : exitr shorts
13:08 Tejpreet : clean exit , nil now.
13:08 Shai : 8895 to watch for reds
13:11 Vijay : @shai The IB & IS are SUPERB Indicators +1000
13:12 Vishnu : 8790-8830 nf did
13:12 Leela : uttam tat RB n IB in bnf is sign of strength
13:12 KK : BNF 13K stuck
13:15 Kushal : IS after IB today too
13:15 Uttam : weak shots are being runsed out looks like
13:16 Uttam : rinsed*
13:16 Jitender : 19.5ce 301-235 half book
13:16 Uttam : congo
13:16 Jitender : tx…greens at top
13:16 Tejpreet : +1 Jit
13:17 Jitender : +1
13:17 Kushal : +1 Jit
13:17 Tejpreet : Congrats to all green mtm in the room.
13:17 Jitender : 6th trade
13:18 Rajan : Congo Jit
13:18 Ankit : +1 jit
13:19 Jitender : tx guys
13:23 Rajan : @Shai – what is your view on VIX?
13:24 Shai : vix 55-56 res
13:26 Suresh : what is ref 8812 – yellow line?
13:27 Rajan : Are you expecting it to go below 50 level??
13:27 Shai : 8892 res from here
13:30 Uttam : what H did not do, can 'I ' do it ?
13:30 Shai : Vix I don't se eit drop below 50 today/ tom
13:30 Shai : however if 56 is crossed then we go back to 68/70
13:31 Shai : 8600 pe for the close cmp 66 tgt 110 sl of 28
13:34 Rajan : Thanks Shai
13:41 Jitender : full book 182 (13:16) Jitender : 19.5ce 301-235 half book
13:41 Sagar : congo
13:41 Vijay : +1Jit
13:41 Shai : +1
13:41 Manoj : congrats Jitender
13:41 Sanjib : Congrats, Jit
13:42 KK : Abki Baar
13:42 Chetas : 80% rule apply below 8732?
13:42 Jitender : tx Shai n guys
13:42 Uttam : 2 more mins – (13:30) Uttam : what H did not do, can 'I ' do it ?
13:43 Uttam : 8760 NF holding for now
13:43 Kushal : nice trade Jit
13:44 Rajan : Uttam – If it breaks 8701, if will be a FA??
13:44 Uttam : no Rajan as we were above IBH for more than 30mins
13:45 Uttam : but lets break the lows & close lower as that confirms the excess at top which is a even stronger sign
13:45 Rajan : Thanks UG
13:48 Shai : Sl at 49 now on thios trade- (13:31) Shai : 8600 pe for the close cmp 66 tgt 110 sl of 28
13:48 KK : that 19k in bnf ?
13:48 Sanjib Roy : 8800 OI crossover 34k short
13:48 Tejpreet : 730 nf good zone to part book.
13:49 Rajan : Another IS Shai??
13:49 Shai : said this at 11.44 for NF – 2 hours later almost there – (11:44) Shai : headed to day lows
13:50 Shai : yes IS
13:50 Vishnu : 8830–8744 did
13:50 Vishnu : going great today
13:51 Ankit : 8800 pe 163 to 183
13:51 Rajan : +1 Vishnu
13:51 Shai : +1 Vishnu
13:51 Chintan : +1 Vishnu
13:51 Chintan : & ankit
13:52 Vijay : Congo Vishnu & Ankit
13:52 Kushal : +1 Ankit . Vishnu
13:52 Jitender : congrats guys
13:52 Tejpreet : congrats guys
13:52 Ankit : thx all
13:53 Ankit : ongrats vishnu good one!
13:53 Shai : Part book the 8600 pe near 92- 95 Sl at cost on rest
13:53 Ashwath : Uttam – any view on BNF?
13:53 Ankit : +1 shai
13:53 Vishnu : thanks shai and all
13:53 Prateeek : bnf still to touch days low
13:54 Vishnu : congo all who learns and earns from here
13:54 Prateeek : and congrats guys. I also had a nice green day. 1.8 dt. looking for one last good trade
13:55 Shai : what a ride in NF premiums
13:55 Shai : now the joker from +111 this time yesterday is at -20
13:55 Ankit : hahaha
13:55 Shai : Broken comppletely
13:56 Chetas : can we tag yesterday vwap ? 8618?
13:56 Chetas : then yesterday POC 🙂
13:57 Shai : sl is trailed at 8850 F now
13:57 Ashwath : Zerodha not working as usual.. order taking not of time..
14:00 Shai : neu X is below 8700
14:01 Ankit : 8670 next?
14:01 Shai : shoukd be good for 8550
14:01 Ankit : +1 chief
14:01 Shai : just that positional marker at 8670
14:02 Tejpreet : Too much time Shai allow us DPOC to refill.
14:02 Shai : Arre nahin
14:02 Shai : has to go now
14:02 Tejpreet : 🙂 lunch postponed
14:03 Uttam : COT building in both
14:04 Chintan : More pain in BNF
14:04 Uttam : 18200
14:04 Ankit : PE premium not moving acordingly
14:05 Ankit : 88k pe 192 to 198 out
14:05 Uttam : RO point of April here 8686
14:05 Jitender : 18.5 pe 285-377
14:05 Ankit : _/\_
14:05 Jitender : bettered yday mtm
14:05 Tejpreet : +1
14:05 Jitender : tx guys
14:05 Uttam : congo Jit
14:05 Ankit : today is better than a trend day
14:05 Jitender : hehe
14:06 Jitender : tx UG
14:06 Jitender : cheers Ankit…better spirits now 🙂
14:06 Ankit : proper entry exit time and no of pits market run is also more…in both directions
14:07 Shai : Congrats
14:07 Ankit : thank you jit ! 🙂
14:07 Tejpreet : +1 Ankit
14:07 Ankit : thx tej 🙂
14:07 Jitender : u r wc Ankit…
14:07 Jitender : its all in the mind
14:07 Jitender : remember tat
14:08 Govind : Congo Ankit and Jit
14:08 Jitender : & Vt is the best in this country
14:08 Ankit : will always remember 🙂
14:08 Govind : Amen to that Jit
14:08 Ankit : thx gov
14:08 Vijay : Congo Guys and +1000 to VT
14:08 Chintan : 100% Jit
14:09 Shai : Yes we are very good here – (14:08) Jitender : & Vt is the best in this country
14:09 Shai : Cheers to you all.
14:09 Prateeek : done with another trade. bnf futures from 18800 to 18635. booked. now at 2.2 dt. Now will wait patiently
14:09 Shai : You are the best and make VT what it is
14:09 Tejpreet : +100 Shai
14:09 Jitender : _/\_ Shai
14:09 Kushal : thnxs all and congrats to all… 2dt done
14:09 Ketan : +1 shai / jit
14:09 Ankit : _/\_
14:10 Rajan : Thanks to you Shai & team VT
14:10 Jitender : congo Kushal
14:10 Kushal : thnx Jit 🙂
14:11 Jitender : Congrats Prateek
14:11 Prateeek : thanks jitender … trying to sync my trading with vt
14:12 Jitender : +1
14:12 Uttam : anyone giving ext handke in K period?
14:12 Shai : Congarts – (14:09) Prateeek : done with another trade. bnf futures from 18800 to 18635. booked. now at 2.2 dt. Now will wait patiently
14:12 Yash : Shai, trail sl?
14:12 Uttam : will be a nice spike lower if happens
14:13 Shai : 8739 TSL aggressive
14:13 Shai : look for 8662
14:13 Yash : ok thanks,
14:13 Vishnu : need bnf 18000
14:13 Vishnu : give it ug
14:13 Shai : shiorts still in below 8850 final Sl which is trailed down from 8960
14:14 Shai : didn't cross from 11.40- (11:47) Shai : 8960 trailing Sl for day shorts
14:17 Tejpreet : Dpoc visit done, wanted 791 but Uuttam moved dpoc down.
14:18 Tejpreet : 728 to 770 booked all.
14:22 Jitender : +1
14:26 Tejpreet : tks Jit
14:26 Uttam : so looks likewe getting a PBH also
14:27 Ankit : +1 tej
14:28 Tejpreet : tks
14:28 Shai : Last short below 8710 for 8658 sl of 8768. shoirt below
14:36 Vishnu : spike down ug ?
14:40 Uttam : yes Vishnu for NeuX down spike post 2:45 will be nice
14:40 Vishnu : thanks ug
14:41 Shai : exit if 8758 is crossed
14:41 Shai : taking time to break IBL
14:42 Shai : exit
14:44 Tejpreet : Neutral centre Uttam
14:45 Uttam : looks like Tej
14:45 Uttam : close at VWAP as dPOC is lower only
14:45 Shai : hmm
14:45 Shai : bears leaving the job for tom
14:46 Tejpreet : Chief sets up fpr expiry magic
14:46 Tejpreet : Jit any news on Covid testing being made free order by SC.
14:47 Shai : it will be paid for by the govt
14:47 Shai : so expect higher taxes 🙂
14:47 Tejpreet : oh ok, so more testing
14:47 Vishnu : again tax increase
14:47 Tejpreet : Ccess !!
14:47 Vishnu : corona cess
14:48 VaibhavG : fuel cess/price
14:49 Vishnu : 8795-8762
14:51 Chintan : stop run above 8800 ?
14:52 Jitender : 7-8 cities of UP to be sealed complketely till 30th Apr
14:53 Chintan : much needed considering that Gajiabad crowd
15:01 Uttam : close around 8800 looks like in NF?
15:01 Uttam : HVN there
15:01 Uttam : and a move away from there at open will be nice
15:04 Shai : close at lows coming
15:05 Shai : 2 IS are back after that IB
15:08 Yash : do we have enough time Chief?
15:15 Shai : no avoid
15:17 Uttam : dPOC at 8740 so NeuC close
15:17 Uttam : can be a good expiry tom
15:17 Uttam : 18900 in BNF
15:18 Shai : COt is covering now
15:19 Boppanna : positive cot
15:19 Suresh : @UG should i DM in slack for some qns? which forum?
15:19 Uttam : yes you can Suresh
15:19 Suresh : ok thanks
15:19 Uttam : +1
15:19 Sameer : Uttam 18900 expiry close means premium eating tommorow expectec ?
15:20 Uttam : lets see what kind of an Open we get tom Sameer, that could set things up
15:20 Uttam : both are a 'b' shape profile today with an excess at nw hgihs so can be a new daily swing high this
15:21 Uttam : and a new leg lower could start
15:22 Yash : neutral center right UG?
15:23 Uttam : yes
15:23 Uttam : NF
15:23 Uttam : BNF NV
15:23 Yash : ok neuX means neautral extreme
15:23 Uttam : yes
15:23 Yash : ok
15:24 Yash : need to sit down and do some homework, lost money in PEs today bcoz of entry exit issues and sizing may be
15:24 Rajesh : Sai – how you see tomorrows expiry – around what levels
15:24 Uttam : Wednesday & Thursdays you need to be extra careful with the weekly options
15:24 Vishnu : yes new players
15:25 Vishnu : bye all
15:25 Vishnu : good green mtm
15:25 Vishnu : thanks to vt and shai
15:25 Uttam : congrats Vishnu 🙂
15:25 Tejpreet : +1 Vishnu
15:26 Suresh : Thanks all. WIll DM UG
15:26 Tejpreet : Yash avoid weeklies tomorrow play next weeks options with good liqudity , like 8500 or 9000 strike.
15:26 Shai : we may close around 8686 if COT does not show more reds – (15:24) Rajesh : Sai – how you see tomorrows expiry – around what levels
15:27 Shai : Hope everyone had a good session
15:27 Tejpreet : yes Chief
15:27 Rajan : yes cheif
15:27 Rajesh : yes chief thank you
15:27 Shai : Thurs evening we will do our scheduled webinar and discuss in details
15:27 Shai : Till then keep your questions coming
15:27 Uttam : awesome Shai
15:27 Yash null : chief ref tom?
15:27 Suresh : thanks shai
15:28 Amit N : Thanks Shai
15:28 Shai : ref is 8710- 40 tom at open where the seller did not push
15:28 Shai : we see if he does
15:28 Shai : tom
15:28 Shai : Bye all
15:28 Shai : Have a good evening
15:29 Tejpreet : Bye All.
15:29 Uttam : thanks All 🙂 have a lovely evening
15:29 Rajan : Bye all
15:30 Rajesh : Thanks Sai. Have a great evening..
15:30 Ashwath : Thanks you guys, ba bye.