OrderFlow charts and Notes 04/11/15

[08:44]   r m : Good Morning folks!
[08:44]   r m : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-04th-nov/
[08:44]   r m : http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-and-notes-031115/
[08:44]   r m : http://vtrender.com/consolidated-orderflow-031115/
[08:45]   r m : Nifty NOV Future levels | KRA 8132 | Hypo1 above 8099➜8125➜8180 SL 8060 | Hypo2 below 8050➜8024➜8005 SL 8084
[08:45]   r m : Banknifty NOV Future levels | KRA 17050 | Hypo1 above 17423➜17497➜17668 SL 17320 | Hypo2 below 17280➜17204➜17160 SL 17385
[08:45]   Anay : GM All
[09:01]   Shai : GM all
[09:02]   Venkatesan : gm shai,rm and friends
[09:03]   r m : Hi Venkatesan
[09:04]   Venkatesan : QT meaning please?
[09:04]   r m : meaning is quants, i don’t know how those values are arrived at
[09:05]   Venkatesan : like LVN ji?
[09:05]   Kathir : GM Shai RM all friends
[09:05]   r m : Hi Kathir
[09:06]   Venkatesan : thank you rm ji
[09:06]   Venkatesan : hi kathir
[09:07]   Kathir : RM hope bnf longs and 8300 ce holders will be happy at open ..sgx 70 +
[09:07]   Janak : will the gap up be sold off like yday gap up?
[09:08]   Janak : they way US mkt is resilient to any substantial fall – it is a one-way – going up and up – will it fall?
[09:09]   Shai : Not much strngth was there in last 30 mins of the day in both NF and BNF
[09:09]   Gaurav A : gm all
[09:09]   Shai : so gap up will catch all by surprise
[09:10]   Ashish : GM all
[09:12]   Kathir : chinese up 3 %
[09:12]   RK : GM Shai,RM and all
[09:12]   Sharad : GM all
[09:12]   r m : Hi RK
[09:13]   Venkatesan : hi rk
[09:13]   RK : Hi Venkat
[09:13]   Kathir : Hi venk RK
[09:13]   RK : Hi Kathir
[09:13]   Tejpreet : GM All
[09:13]   Sandeep69 null : gm all
[09:14]   Vikkas : Gdmrng all
[09:14]   Vikkas : Hi RM
[09:14]   RK : Friday rise in last hour cleared shorts but made the fall on Monday towards 8000..yday fall in BNF cleared longs and what will it do today on upside?
[09:14]   Sankar : GM Shai, RM and everyone 🙂
[09:15]   r m : Hi Vikkas, Sankar
[09:17]   Santosh : Gm all
[09:19]   Shai : BNF sellers at open
[09:20]   Ashish : Shai, volumes are good in 1st 5 minutes
[09:20]   Shai : yes good open vils today
[09:20]   Shai : vols
[09:21]   Shai : NF good abv 8122 – looking to enter longs for 8169/ 8188
[09:24]   Himanshu null : Shai nf long to be entered now or wait?
[09:27]   Vikkas : @RM can u pls send the link for the stocksheet that u made yesterday ..forgot to save it
[09:27]   RK : its there in documents folder
[09:27]   Shai : waitinga bit Himanshu as it was a gap
[09:28]   Vikkas : thanx RK
[09:28]   RK : with a tag current week
[09:29]   Vikkas : got it ..thanx RK
[09:31]   Janak : nf/bn can go for gap-fill shai?
[09:32]   Vikkas : did anyone go long in tatamotors yesterday
[09:32]   Vikkas : i missed it 🙁
[09:32]   Shai : Not enough long conviction here in NF
[09:33]   Shai : may go down to 8108 poc
[09:36]   Shai : still watching the big positionals around 8111 spot
[09:36]   Shai : but that’s a higher TF
[09:36]   Shai : so far we have done 8116 on the gap up spot
[09:36]   RK : looks we some serious sellers not allowing BNF to get out from that balance 🙂
[09:37]   RK : *we have some
[09:38]   RK : they are playing the extremes of that balance
[09:38]   Shai : yes but dip buyers also there
[09:39]   RK : Yes one team assigned to buy there and another team to sell 🙂
[09:40]   r m : Nifty Spot has a HVN near 8115 – http://screencast.com/t/3EiFMB83
[09:41]   Janak : shai bn can besold around 455 for 400?
[09:41]   Janak : and nf ror 8112
[09:42]   r m : ok
[09:42]   Shai : Janak BNF weak now only below 420
[09:43]   Shai : looking for eveidence of ore buying around 17425 yvwap today
[09:44]   Vikkas : shai 80% in BNF playing or too early ro say that
[09:44]   Vikkas : *to
[09:49]   Mahendra : Good morining
[09:50]   r m : GM Mahendra
[09:51]   Mahendra : I am delayed
[09:52]   Mahendra : I think our hypos are not active
[09:53]   RK : Yes Mahendra flat now
[09:54]   RK : due to gap up
[09:54]   Kiran : shai, last BNF 5 min, 14880 buyer but delta REd, how to interprete ? Thanks.
[09:54]   Mahendra : Ok Thanks for update
[09:59]   Shai : Kiran not aggressive buyer yet
[10:01]   Shai : NF – Place a positional buy abv 8132 sl of 8070 tgt 8190/ 8277
[10:02]   Shai : Buy abv- TF is till next week
[10:03]   RK : ok Diwali starts here then 🙂
[10:07]   Shai : need it to take out 8128 again today after a test may be below
[10:07]   Shai : let’s see what afternoon brings
[10:07]   Rahul P : 80% rule in nf – any scope ?
[10:07]   Shai : below 8128 it is RB
[10:08]   Shai : Can work Rahul though on gap ups test of POC is a good thing
[10:10]   RK : BNF has open high with excess is a concern as of now for longs..PH too repaired..
[10:12]   Vikkas : shai did we have a poor low on monday ?
[10:12]   Vikkas : which is not yet repaired
[10:12]   RK : I dont think Vikkas
[10:12]   Vikkas : ahh..ok RK
[10:13]   Mahendra : 0Xxyz means bid is open there?
[10:38]   Kathir : @shai is there any buyers around lows of Lupin today can retst 1900 today?
[10:38]   Shai : No Mahendra these are traded volumes
[10:39]   Shai : Kindly refer to the links we have sent in the welcome kit
[10:39]   Shai : it’s also here – http://vtrender.com/trading-room-charts-explained-3/
[10:40]   Mahendra : Ok thanks Shai, wil check that
[10:41]   Shai : Buy 8100 ce at 148 sl of 131 tgt 162/ 179
[10:48]   RK : searching for buyers but none seen
[10:50]   Rahul P : worry is nf profile looks like a drive
[10:53]   Vikkas : shai good place to go long
[10:53]   Vikkas : in NF
[10:53]   Shai : yes could be – let the vol spike end
[10:54]   Vikkas : cool thanx
[10:54]   Uttam : this will also ensure we have a buying tail if it gets back above 8115
[10:54]   Shai : buyers in that dip
[10:55]   Uttam : same on BNF also
[10:56]   Vikkas : yvwap also tested
[10:58]   RK : Shai break of 8090-8130 will
[10:58]   RK : take it away
[10:58]   Vikkas : +1 RK
[10:58]   RK : (10:07) Shai :below 8128 it is RB
[10:59]   RK : its a harassment for bulls..entire Asia running on bulky green 🙂
[11:00]   Vikkas : but prolly we have an event coming up so we are consolidating for a move up post that
[11:07]   Uttam : @RM @Varun you guys doing the dimple filling today?
[11:07]   Shai : exit the 8100 ce at 142- 143
[11:10]   r m : @Uttam, by the time Bihar results are out Nifty’s cheeks will be swolen like a ripe apple 🙂
[11:10]   Vikkas : hahahhahahah RM
[11:10]   Uttam : lol yes RM looks like
[11:10]   Venkatesan : :)))
[11:11]   Kathir : 🙂
[11:12]   Kathir : what if nithish and co wins ?
[11:13]   r m : Nifty will retaliate 🙂
[11:14]   Mahendra : possiblility is more for win of nitish
[11:14]   r m : ok
[11:14]   Vikkas : @kathir i am of the view if that happend agreed there will be panic but wud be the best chance to load up for a new high as post that BJP yet as more ammunition.. UP and Tamilnadu and reforms also will made faster
[11:15]   Tejpreet : Vikkas fully agree with you ….any panic just pile up your euity portfolio.
[11:15]   RK : TN BJP cant dream min for next 20 years Vikkas 🙂
[11:15]   Tejpreet : *equity
[11:16]   Vikkas : why do u say that RK ?
[11:16]   Kathir : ok vikkas
[11:16]   Vikkas : agreed bjp has no strong foothold there but this is there chance
[11:16]   Soumya : Tata motors on fireeeeeeee.. Messi effect?
[11:16]   RK : that’s a huge political discussion and this is not the place 🙂
[11:16]   Kathir : @vikkas out of 234 seats in TN bjp hardly has only 15 20 guys ready to compete 🙂
[11:16]   Vikkas : haha RK
[11:17]   r m : @RK, Shai will soon open tab 3 for Bihar 😀
[11:18]   Mahendra : lol
[11:18]   Tejpreet : hahaha
[11:18]   Kathir : where they will go for another 200 guys 🙂 may be things can change after 2g and jayalalitha case fial reults 🙂
[11:18]   RK : this is soil of Periyar and Dravidan parties are so strong and it will be almost impossible for national parties to get a foot here..its all about idealogy 🙂
[11:18]   r m : http://tinyurl.com/q9bzv4m
[11:18]   RK : RM :))
[11:18]   r m : Nifty has been in Bihar most of October while S&P did well without Bihar 🙂
[11:19]   Augustin : RK – There is only one party strong in TN at the moment.. Other Dravidian parties are fighting for the Opp slot 🙂
[11:19]   Venkatesan : :)))))
[11:20]   RK : Augustin thats perfect..no power can replace AMMA :))..
[11:20]   Augustin : 😀 True.. Amma dhaan ellaaam.. mathdhelaaam summa 🙂
[11:20]   RK : everyone criticise her in social media but ground reality is so different when it comes to election 🙂
[11:21]   r m : so much so that CM Uttranchal who is from Congress is running Amma canteens here – maybe he wants to join AIADMK 🙂
[11:21]   Augustin : Very True.. Others have self destructed rather than capitalizing opportunities
[11:21]   Kathir : lol
[11:21]   Augustin : LOL
[11:21]   RK : same will happen in Bihar..BJP will win to troll all social media fellows 🙂
[11:21]   Vikkas : i hope Rk it does win bihar
[11:21]   RK : RM yeah thats our power of Amma :)..you file a case in any state and she will come out clean 🙂
[11:22]   r m : lol
[11:22]   Vikkas : exit poll is during mkt hrs right
[11:22]   Kathir : lol RK
[11:22]   RK : Vikkas politics and markets are same..just takes opposite direction when everyone talking about one direction 🙂
[11:22]   Vikkas : agreed
[11:24]   Sandeep69 : no poc bar on day tf today, shai ?
[11:25]   r m : exit poll should come out after 5 pm tomorrow
[11:25]   Vikkas : ohh..ok thanx RM
[11:27]   Kathir : @gustin in chennai?
[11:27]   Rahul P : going back to the value area, is it a long again ?
[11:27]   Kathir : Augustin?
[11:27]   Shai : Yes NF long again abv IBL
[11:27]   Shai : good buying off lows
[11:28]   Sandeep69 : but bnf looks weak shai
[11:28]   Shai : Buy NF 8115 sl of 8094 tgt 8136/ 8162
[11:28]   Shai : we will place stop just below yvwap
[11:29]   Shai : as buyers have come at 8100
[11:29]   Shai : yes BNF still not able to move abv that 18430- 18450 zone
[11:33]   Uttam : buyers @ VWAP in NF?
[11:33]   Kathir : sgx nifty morning high was 8168
[12:00]   Mahendra : Normal Variaton Day
[12:22]   Shai : old buyers at 8100 called again to defend
[12:23]   Shai : has dropped off from vwap but vol ha sbeen lower
[12:26]   Shai : yes a normal variation day type
[12:30]   RK : Shai which means we can look for 8165 above sucessful IB passage?
[12:30]   Shai : yes cross of vwap
[12:30]   RK : 8115-8095=20; 8145+20=8165 🙂
[12:30]   Shai : second pick up done at 8104
[12:31]   Shai : vwap again- imp area in context of day
[12:35]   Vikkas : be back in an hour guys ..see u ..stepping put for lunch with a frnd
[12:36]   Kathir : Vikkas we will present you with 8165 nf then 🙂
[12:36]   r m : have a big lunch, you may get napping time in the afternoon too 🙂
[12:40]   Tejpreet : Somebody yesterday was saying markets might be on till 5pm ….might help to loose some weight as lunch would be missed !
[12:40]   r m : 🙂
[12:40]   Kathir : 🙂 Tej so you are a big man 🙂
[12:41]   Tejpreet : No kathir but i like lean look
[12:41]   r m : I reduced 10kg last year by having regular meals with more protein then carbs and using some metabolism catalysts like black pepper, ginger, coffee etc.
[12:42]   Tejpreet : And for scalper you have to be glued to the screen wether market moves or not.
[12:42]   Tejpreet : RM regular meal is the key .
[12:42]   r m : maybe google will invent something in their google glass for sclpers, just imaging trading with a blink of eye while you are brewing coffee 🙂
[12:42]   Kathir : tej ok :). RM
[12:43]   RK : Tej Scalper or not but glueing has become bad habbit 🙂
[12:43]   Tejpreet : RK depends on your profile , if you are full time trader then that is your job !
[12:44]   RK : agreed
[12:49]   Kiran : skipping meal , not an good idea. people skip n then pay after 50/60s age.
[12:51]   Hari : @shai, should be accumulate NF, as it falls to 8105
[12:54]   Shai : No Hari – we have to buy strength now
[12:54]   Shai : abv 8128 F
[12:58]   Janak : shai nf/bnf intraday short targets could be?
[13:05]   Shai : buyers at lows Janak , short is right below current lows
[13:13]   Janak : yes shai but OTF is still a seller? i think they are trying to push out those sellers at low
[13:16]   Janak : ek baar rm sir ha bol de fir dekho bears kya karte hei 🙂
[13:21]   Uttam : Shai the positional NF buy call is still active right?
[13:21]   r m : @Janak – haaaaaaaaaaan 😀
[13:21]   Venkatesan : :)))))))
[13:22]   Venkatesan : yes pink changed to green
[13:22]   Tejpreet : RM red flags the bulls !
[13:22]   r m : lol
[13:22]   RK : looks like third pick up here..and we got 44K and then now 30K reds at 8105 looks trapped
[13:23]   Ashish : @Rk, They should exit now if Vwap goes.
[13:23]   Janak : rm u said haan so loudly bears ran away :;
[13:23]   RK : may be the last push for IB if fails then it would be a chance to bears to get this to their zone
[13:23]   Ashish : +1Rk
[13:24]   RK : Yes Ashish..lets see..so far no weakness in stocks ..but all can change in matter of time.lets see 🙂
[13:24]   Janak : but shai – right from day 1 in this series – mkt has never an inclination to go up – gap ups are the only reason we are trading higher
[13:24]   r m : yes Janak, gaps are giving the biggies a chance to short at highs
[13:25]   r m : but participant data does not show any big position buildup either
[13:25]   Porus : Wht is Europe mkt opening tie now? Seems like daylight saving effect has been applied.
[13:25]   Tejpreet : or square off the longs at low !
[13:25]   Ashish : Yes RK, VWAP should be conquered comprehensively this time otherwise Janak will take this to his territory
[13:25]   RK : Yeah he is waiting eagerly and trying to convince Shai too 🙂
[13:26]   RK : anyhow time to be careful if any spike is seen when we move up..
[13:26]   Ashish : Yeah but Shai is standing @ 8000 levels with knife at bear’s throat.
[13:27]   Venkatesan : :)))))@ahish
[13:27]   RK : you talk like Anirudh sethi now 🙂
[13:28]   Ashish : hahahaha
[13:28]   RK : after 10.45-11 we traded all through below IB
[13:29]   Ashish : he uses pictures that looks scary
[13:29]   Janak : RK anirudh sethi = rm 🙂
[13:29]   Kathir : lol 🙂
[13:29]   RK : RM is polite man..but your Anirudh is a agressive man 🙂
[13:29]   Venkatesan : lol @ jana
[13:30]   RK : very poor volumes today
[13:30]   Kathir : @RK RM even now lots of people I know who are subscribing to him – sethi
[13:30]   Kathir : I know
[13:31]   RK : Great
[13:31]   Kathir : great ? poor guys
[13:31]   r m : aha, while i was on the other tab you guys were busy trolling me 🙂
[13:32]   Tejpreet : @Kathir i was one of Sethi saab”s subscriber many years back .
[13:32]   Gaurav A : did u enjoyed rape???
[13:32]   r m : lol
[13:32]   Kathir : me too Tej..now If I think that smiling comes automatically
[13:32]   Gaurav A : fav word of sethi
[13:32]   Tejpreet : True Kathir.
[13:32]   RK : Gaurav so mean :))))0
[13:34]   Kathir : @RK sethi uses the word Rape reqularly..not sue whether he is raping someone reqularly 🙂
[13:35]   Janak : RK – rm is the ASR of VT 🙂
[13:35]   Janak : entertaining / colorful /
[13:35]   r m : @Kathir, his clients 😀
[13:36]   r m : @Janak, I don’t remember having ever given a trading call 🙂
[13:36]   Kathir : 🙂 yes RM sir .. colourfull??
[13:39]   r m : wearing a red color sweater if that is what you mean 🙂
[13:40]   r m : guess should look for a green one!
[13:40]   Janak : rm thats what ASR does – doesnt remember anything he does 😉
[13:40]   Janak : or says
[13:40]   Kathir : 🙂 lol
[13:40]   r m : lol
[13:40]   Janak : if pink is the color then one knows what VT charts will do?
[13:40]   Tejpreet : RM if you are wearing red sweater now please cross the IB and stand AT IBH for couple of minutes.
[13:41]   r m : lol
[13:41]   r m : I can put some PE chart on and pretend it is NF 🙂
[13:41]   Tejpreet : 🙂
[13:44]   Kathir : @RM Trading was wonderfull during 2007 08 where NF volume will be 2,5 crores minimum ..
[13:44]   Kathir : 2 to 3 crores
[13:44]   Naresh : was there an impact on volumes due to lotsize changes ?
[13:45]   r m : @Naresh, volumes are low but it may also be due to consolidation going on
[13:46]   Naresh : Thanks RM
[13:46]   Naresh : may be a full month or 2 give an idea
[13:46]   r m : yes
[13:47]   RK : Ashish another 23K..
[13:47]   RK : dont know its all new shorts or longs getting out
[13:48]   Janak : shai-bull – is blocking us poor bears 🙁
[13:48]   Ashish : yes Rk, watching it… looks like someone is coming @ this level again and again
[13:48]   RK : all together 1lac there now at 8105..if mkts goes to his hand, then its all Janak way..but profile dont support it.so lets take a breath 🙂
[13:49]   Ashish : ok RK, let’s wait for him to decide 😉
[13:50]   r m : nothing much happening in future OI, looks like DII are buying from Props! http://vtrender.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/oishift.png
[13:50]   Venkatesan : rm jii, volume nse shows 50L and here its 43.5L?
[13:50]   RK : Venkat 50 only..
[13:50]   RK : check the box in 5 min chart..
[13:50]   Janak : rm but if that 1 lac gives way then……………
[13:50]   RK : above POC..
[13:50]   Venkatesan : 4359309?
[13:51]   Venkatesan : rk ji
[13:51]   Venkatesan : ok got it but in day chart
[13:51]   RK : Venkat daily chart update has some issues some times
[13:51]   RK : yday Shai clarified
[13:51]   Venkatesan : ok fine thank you rk
[13:51]   r m : 5.09 m in databox
[13:52]   Venkatesan : ;))))))))@rm
[13:53]   r m : Janak running away 🙂
[13:53]   Venkatesan : stop escapped
[13:53]   Janak : ran with 35 pts of bnf for sure 🙂
[13:53]   Ashish : Waiting for shai to come here now
[13:53]   r m : 🙂
[13:54]   Mahendra : short Nifty?
[13:54]   Shankar : is there a vol spike?
[13:54]   Mahendra : yes
[13:55]   Shai : NF stopped
[13:55]   Varun : 80 % done
[13:55]   Mahendra : you were short?
[13:56]   Varun : since morning at every rise
[13:57]   Varun : just i was getting only 10 points
[13:57]   Mahendra : great..
[13:58]   RK : both are hitting doors of yday VA
[13:58]   RK : VAL
[13:58]   Janak : bounce nahi chahiye rm sir pl
[13:58]   r m : @Varun, i was wondering who is causing those big red bars at vwap 🙂
[13:58]   Janak : girne do –
[13:59]   r m : @Janak, please apply to the ut specialist (cc to Shai) 🙂
[13:59]   Varun : lol i tweeted also, spike at vwap is most likely r/e
[13:59]   r m : yes
[13:59]   Rahul P : so back to vwap now ?
[14:00]   Varun : now crossing 8104 will be headache
[14:03]   RK : Varun excess at open was the context behind shorting rise?
[14:04]   r m : @RK, never came above vwap could be one more reason
[14:04]   RK : Yeah RM..less conviction today for longs..
[14:04]   RK : but we had a chance for longs and not for shorts acc to me
[14:05]   r m : but long needed bigger stop while short stop was a few point above vwap
[14:05]   RK : since yVWAP held in first dip, long had to be initiated when we see buyers
[14:06]   Anay : @RK Value still developing higher….lets see. yest low good ref for longs
[14:07]   Varun : yes rk
[14:07]   Mayur : ideally, short should be below yest low and long above yest high. spot values.
[14:07]   Varun : i dnt like open outside range coming back in ramge within 15 mins
[14:07]   RK : Yes Anay VA developing higher and this lows are in low volumes..so test of 8055 is also fine..
[14:07]   RK : Varun yes got it
[14:09]   Varun : no longs till excess goes
[14:09]   Varun : excess marks end of a move
[14:09]   Varun : so probably counter rally over with a poor low pending at 8025
[14:11]   RK : 8022 from Mon poor low?
[14:11]   Varun : yup
[14:11]   Rahul P : vwap coming it seems first
[14:11]   RK : Vikkas take a note..I stand corrected..
[14:12]   Varun : although its a 8 point low, but shai said it was in sswitchover of periods so could be taken on tpos
[14:12]   RK : Yes 8 point in such narrow mkts is fine
[14:13]   Mahendra : tested yVAL
[14:15]   r m : NF last 4 days merged http://screencast.com/t/LboIRwAe
[14:17]   RK : thanks RM
[14:17]   Shankar : RM can we say that there couple of anamolies on the upper half?
[14:18]   r m : none I think
[14:18]   Janak : rm i feel mkt wants this election results out of the way first
[14:19]   Janak : and somewhere shai had written in a weekly post that a round below 8k is pending?
[14:19]   r m : yes Janak, meanwhile it is earning daal-roti by taking day trader’s stops 🙂
[14:19]   r m : oops daal-roti is high brow stuff these days 🙂
[14:20]   r m : chicken is cheaper!
[14:20]   Tejpreet : chai paani is more apt
[14:20]   r m : yes
[14:20]   r m : bata wada, chai paani
[14:20]   r m : batata
[14:22]   r m : @Sankar, here is unmerged no anomaly
[14:22]   r m : http://screencast.com/t/kjMlInkF
[14:22]   Janak : but that 8080 visit was written all over there on the chart morning
[14:22]   Janak : shai pl put a consolidated NF chart since morning
[14:22]   Rahul P : 80% rule, right janak ?
[14:22]   Janak : yeah man
[14:22]   Janak : simple trade for traditional traders
[14:23]   Shankar : thanks RM
[14:24]   Varun : now 80 % wapsi
[14:24]   Varun : lol
[14:24]   r m : 😀
[14:24]   Rahul P : 🙂
[14:24]   RK : 🙂
[14:31]   Kathir : @RK any update for bnf positional hold for 17740? SL same?
[14:33]   RK : Yes Kathir same SL..its not giving moves to trail..
[14:35]   Kathir : ok
[14:37]   Ashish : @Shai, VWAP of 5 minute is correct than 30 minute, Right?
[14:37]   Shai : yes vwap of 5 min more correct
[14:38]   Ashish : Thanks
[14:38]   Shai : what happens in 30 mins and the daily is that we weight the price on a bigger range say 5 or 10 hence precision is off
[14:38]   Ashish : OK, got it
[14:39]   Varun : close more or less done at 8107 it seems
[14:39]   Shai : even the volume figures will not come in multiples of 75
[14:39]   Shai : off by 0.5% or 50000 for every 100L
[14:40]   Shai : vwap in NF has kept buyers away all morning
[14:42]   Kathir : @RK when I have a mind set on monday then I am not looking for opposite direction trades..ex..mind was set o 17740 bnf and I never think of shorting it 🙂
[14:43]   Janak : shai i am innocent – i do not plead guilty – i have nothing do with mkt fall 🙂
[14:43]   RK : Mindset is ok but we should be quick enough to switch mindset when things travel in opposite direction beyond a limit 🙂
[14:44]   Janak : shai that 8000pe can be tried again for 160-70 before friday?
[14:45]   Kathir : @RK yes but here it is not taking Sl and not going up also 🙂
[14:47]   Kathir : all modi bhai and nithish effect playing ..
[14:50]   Shai : vol has been 12 L on 1st day and 8 L the past 2 days in NF
[14:50]   Shai : looks like we have a new normal at 8L now in NF post the hike
[14:54]   Shai : Janak it’s in that in between place where 138 and 86 both can be done tom
[14:55]   Janak : 8k pe did 88 to 110 – day range shai
[15:03]   Shai : charts updating?
[15:04]   RK : Yes
[15:04]   Mayur : Yes
[15:04]   Kathir : s
[15:04]   Shai : ok. thx
[15:04]   RK : we have seen that big green
[15:04]   Uttam : Shai big buyers in NF?
[15:04]   Shai : big vol buyer
[15:04]   RK : they waited all through the day to enter
[15:05]   Rahul P : this fall seems to be fixed for them to enter
[15:06]   Kathir : @shai any btst or stbt here?
[15:07]   r m : @RK, can’t these guys lend some of their patience to us (in lieu of all the stops they trigger)? 🙂
[15:07]   RK : 🙂
[15:08]   RK : RM even he fails after such a long wait 🙂
[15:11]   Shai : Could have been a covering order
[15:11]   Janak : rm – they always sing – bachna e hasino 🙂
[15:11]   r m : yeah! that give some solace to our broken wings 🙂
[15:11]   Hari : @shai, good to accumulate BNF now
[15:12]   Janak : koi kuch bhi kar lo- i m selling this mkt
[15:12]   Janak : 🙂
[15:12]   Bhagya : unable to see nifty price at the right side corner of the screen
[15:12]   Kathir : @RK RM we will ask help from chinese traders tomorrow 🙁
[15:13]   Bhagya : can u plz correct it
[15:13]   r m : @Kathir, 🙂
[15:13]   Janak : some of the stocks like techn / siemens are butchered today – any news – how much weigtage they have in index rm?
[15:13]   Rahul P : what trigerred this fall ?
[15:14]   r m : @Janak, bhaiyya, should I come to pudducheri if you need help for counting all those piles of greenbacks?
[15:14]   r m : @Janak, not much weightage
[15:14]   Janak : aa jao sirjee – ilke mkt ko lootenge 🙂
[15:14]   Janak : milke
[15:14]   r m : lol
[15:14]   Shai : which chart Bhagya?
[15:14]   Kathir : MP shai
[15:15]   Shai : better?
[15:16]   Hari : @shai, are these greens in BNF short covering, is it a good time to accumulate
[15:16]   Kathir : yes shai thanks..bhagya ?/
[15:16]   Ravi : shai can buy bn positional
[15:16]   RK : BNF below last three days VA
[15:16]   Varun : the excess at top
[15:17]   Kathir : @RK Sl for bnf positional very near can average here or enter fresh ?
[15:17]   Janak : actually mkt is waiting for US to fall for a steeper fall but daily it goes up leaving bears in a quandary and making them more aggressive seller
[15:17]   RK : Kathir better to place it in machine and do nothing now 🙂
[15:18]   Kathir : ok 🙂
[15:18]   Kathir : @shai some accumulation in 8300 ce here now at loes??
[15:19]   Kathir : lows
[15:19]   Mayur : gap down tomorrow. think mkt is gonna tank
[15:20]   Janak : mayur i am with u
[15:21]   Janak : but all depends on US mkt – if that us up – again there will be a gap up 🙁
[15:21]   RK : if we scale 17480 tmw, all set for 17700 🙂
[15:21]   RK : thanks to this spike
[15:23]   Porus : Janak, Draghi more likely to lift the market today. Then comes Yellen.
[15:24]   RK : but off below 220/210
[15:24]   Porus : Shai, bnf falling unabated.
[15:24]   Mayur : forget all externals. mkt is going down. i see 16800 soon.
[15:24]   Kathir : @Porus so we dont have to consider RR 🙂
[15:25]   Porus : KAthir, not Today.
[15:25]   Janak : porus – for how long draghis and yellens can go on?
[15:25]   Porus : Is this result related, or more?
[15:26]   Shai : yeah BNF a poor finisher today
[15:26]   Porus : Janak, they are winding the clock.
[15:27]   r m : 🙂
[15:28]   r m : @Janak, still not touched PDL man, what kind of a bear you are? 🙂
[15:28]   Anay : BNF looking to visit KRA. why shld NF have all the fun? 😉
[15:29]   Gaurav A : hold positional bknf or exit
[15:29]   Shai : holding for now
[15:29]   Hari : @shai, can we accumulate BNF now
[15:29]   r m : teddy? 😀
[15:29]   RK : BNF enjoying today one last chance 🙂
[15:30]   Venkatesan : thank you all
[15:30]   Shai : bye all
[15:30]   Porus : bye all
[15:30]   Shai : Have a nice evening
[15:30]   Anay : bye all
[15:30]   Mayur : bye all
[15:30]   Tejpreet : Bye All
[15:30]   Ashish : Thanks and bye all
[15:30]   r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great evening 🙂
[15:31]   Kathir : Thanks and bye all
[15:41]   Soumya : bye all
[15:41]   Soumya : thanks shai bro

[09:13]   Ashish : Shai, please give USD/INR levels/
[09:19]   Shai : 65.72 supp .inra day weak below 65.86 today
[09:19]   Shankar : Shai your views o TECHM pls
[09:20]   Ashish : Thanks Shai
[09:23]   Vikkas : shai can u chk tatamotors..
[09:23]   Vikkas : can it make its way towards 417 now
[09:25]   Shai : tech M watch 557 if it holds , can push t0 572 if it does
[09:25]   Shai : is still good on close abv 552 all week
[09:26]   Vaibhav : any stock looking weal shai?
[09:26]   Vaibhav : *weak
[09:26]   Shankar : thanks Shai
[09:27]   Shai : ttm strong open – weekly obj is407 if abv 399
[09:27]   Vikkas : ok thanx shai
[09:31]   R Goel : shai levels on hexaware on slighly long term
[09:33]   Uttam : tamo hits 400 Shai next leg up started?
[09:54]   Vikkas : shai can u pls update next support for asian paints ?
[10:05]   Mayur : shai, yesbank is a valid breakout ? good for 800 ce buy ??
[10:06]   Shai : hexaware on the monthly TF has closing supp at 190 and stock looks good to go back to 285 again but below 190 can crack
[10:06]   Shai : daily closing values for hexaware
[10:06]   Shai : Yes uttam Open drive on vols watch 390 as supp for rest of this week
[10:07]   Uttam : thanks Shai
[10:08]   R Goel : thanks shai
[10:10]   Shai : asian weakneing at this open today – may drop to 788
[10:11]   RK : Shai Hero supply here 2610 right? or we can still expect some upside here?
[10:12]   Shankar : Shai is HUL good for long here?
[10:13]   Shai : Yes bank is good over 773 for next 3- 4 sessions and volumes project 794 and 802.4 from here with that as stop
[10:13]   Shai : so that CE makes sense
[10:14]   Shai : hero entered last week’s VA should move more to 2630/ 2639
[10:14]   RK : thanks
[10:15]   Shai : 2584 stop
[10:15]   Mayur : ok. thx. shai.
[10:16]   Shai : hero classic ex of that huge HVN at 2610 attarcting price again
[10:17]   RK : Yes..they tried to push it down but no sellers down there so back to VA..
[10:17]   RK : yday low could not break PDL and from there it had good response from buyers
[10:18]   Vikkas : +1 RK
[10:18]   Vikkas : (09:54) Vikkas :shai can u pls update next support for asian paints ?
[10:18]   Shai : HUL intra day play may get done aroun 813.5 but 818- 823 still possible over next 3 sessions with dip buys to 801 as sl
[10:18]   Shai : @Vikkas- (10:10) Shai :asian weakneing at this open today – may drop to 788
[10:18]   RK : Vikkas already Shai replied for Asian
[10:19]   Vikkas : oops..can re-paste RK pls
[10:19]   Shai : Looks more and more stocks of the tracker getting ready for Diwali
[10:19]   RK : that also he did 🙂
[10:19]   r m : @Vikkas, repasted also by Shai 🙂
[10:19]   RK : Shai Yes..wanted to tell you 🙂
[10:20]   Shai : 🙂
[10:20]   Vikkas : damnn..got it ..thanx
[10:20]   RK : the way HCL holding that 855 level for last 3 weeks is awesome..same like TTM..it will explode one day
[10:21]   Vikkas : gap fill karo RK sahab HCL mein 😉
[10:21]   Shai : some one here had alerted us to TTM at 288
[10:21]   Shai : what a mover it has been
[10:21]   RK : I think Soumya
[10:21]   Tejpreet : I think it was Soumya !
[10:22]   Shai : Oh Thanks Soumya
[10:22]   RK : I entered around 300 and made exit 344..and back again around 375 and did exit at 390..in between one whip around 10 Rs..and after revised lot size, not watching it 🙂
[10:22]   Sharad : Shai… VEDL what price is buy for one month ?
[10:23]   RK : but TTM had tested patience for almost 6-8 months with its grinding moves 🙂
[10:24]   Vikkas : 6-8 mnth grinding move paid well in just abt a mnth RK
[10:24]   Tejpreet : These revised lot sizes are taking time to get used to.
[10:25]   Ashish : Shai, Please check JKDIARY, Are there any aggressive buyers today?
[10:25]   Shai : hcl weekly vah is 873 but has to move abv 880 for an immediate 911 with sl of 870
[10:25]   RK : Yes holding it for that move..
[10:27]   Shai : VEDL not a good open today may test that buyer at 96.6 in a day or 2. Watch near 96 for an entry with stops below 93. gets safer on 102 cross
[10:28]   Sharad : ok Thanks
[10:29]   Shai : jkdiary is the code for Nse Ashish?
[10:29]   Shai : not getting ata
[10:29]   Shai : data
[10:31]   Ashish : Sorry Shai, ITs BSE and code is UMANGDAIR
[10:32]   Shai : oh Ashish I don’t have BSE- but it is an operator stock but has good fundas for now
[10:33]   Ashish : Ok Shai, Thanks a lot 🙂
[10:37]   Vikkas : for ref results today : bata, can bank, ashok leyland, idbi and bank of maha
[10:39]   Kathir : @shai is there any buyers around lows of Lupin today can retst 1900 today?
[10:41]   Tejpreet : Shai any buyers showing up in LT , what next for it.
[10:42]   Shai : Thanks Vikkas
[10:43]   Shai : Yes Kathir buyers are there
[10:43]   Kathir : ok thanks
[10:44]   Shai : have not looked at the pL summary of Lupin, but looks like it is being accumulated on dips by a bigger TF player
[10:44]   Shai : esp the OF of last one week
[10:45]   Kathir : oh ok so positonal holders can buy and keee it.
[10:46]   Shai : yeah LT shoing some buyers from yday lows – should look at 1404 from here sl below 1370 for now
[10:47]   Tejpreet : Thanks Shai.
[10:47]   Vikkas : no worries shai 🙂
[10:51]   Soumya : Shai Cipla short. any views?
[11:01]   Kathir : @shai centurytex positional support
[11:05]   Shai : cipla has got support at that 666 band – intra day can’t see weakness till 672.2 is broken
[11:07]   Shai : century use 528 as supp now- did not get past 552 y’day was expecting 557 at least
[11:07]   Kathir : yes shai remember above 557 there will be 10 points quick
[11:20]   R Goel : shia views on DLF
[11:20]   R Goel : shai*
[11:22]   Shai : dlf now strng abv 121.6 and can force shorts out over 125.3
[11:23]   Shai : 134 possible again if close abv 125.3
[11:24]   R Goel : thnaks
[11:24]   R Goel : thanks*
[11:31]   Hemant : Shai, Bharti and ICICI view please
[11:32]   Vaibhav : bank of india hsia, can it be bought here for positional?
[11:35]   Uttam : Shai do you see buyers in Bharti in today’s dip? At important support
[11:36]   Vikkas : shai can u pls chk sbin for longs here ?
[11:38]   Vikkas : tomo tisco reports numbers ..whoever has positions keep an eye
[11:38]   Soumya : SBI SHOULD POST GOOD NOS
[11:39]   Kathir : results today?
[11:39]   Vikkas : friday i suppose
[11:40]   Vikkas : friday is a result heavy day + exit poll will be out
[11:43]   Kathir : vikkas thanks
[11:47]   Vikkas : 🙂
[12:03]   Soumya : Shai if shorting cipla here please tell the stop loss.. Playing results
[12:05]   Soumya : Expecting less than estimated nos from cipla
[12:06]   Vikkas : insider trading challu kar diya soumya :p
[12:10]   Shai : Bhart easy move of the day may have been done at 343.6 , now has to break 343.6 for more downsides . 339 next supp
[12:10]   Shai : icici supp 275.3 – is weak off the open and below 278.6 can drop to 275.3
[12:11]   Shai : Bharti not big buyers yet
[12:12]   Shai : cipla 683 is a good sl on 30 min closing basis cash
[12:16]   Vaibhav : bank of india shai, can it be bought here for positional?
[12:24]   Shai : bank india has to move abv 134.6 last week val for a positional long
[12:24]   Shai : so far today has tested and come off . 132.3 is intra supp
[12:25]   Vikkas : shai pls chk sbin for longs
[12:32]   Soumya : analysis tells stock pretty expensive unless superb nos come
[12:32]   Soumya : They didnt have any blockbuster products this quarter
[12:35]   Shai : soumya for?
[12:36]   RK : Cipla I think
[12:36]   Shai : sbin ready to probe 243.2 and 244.9 again sl below 235
[12:38]   Soumya : Cipla. yes
[12:38]   Kathir : @soumya you spoke about auropharma results will be bad ? any updates
[12:38]   RK : Shai Maruti booking part here..this move can surpass 4528?
[12:42]   Soumya : company has been doing very well last month
[12:42]   Soumya : checked the sales number
[12:42]   Soumya : 20% growth month on month
[12:42]   Soumya : so even if sept quarter little subdued
[12:42]   Soumya : i dont think price will correct much
[12:43]   Soumya : october sales have been superb for auro
[12:43]   Kathir : ok thanks soumya
[12:43]   Soumya : so not thinking of shorting it
[12:43]   Kathir : fine
[12:43]   Soumya : auro has 381 filings in us so long term looks good only this quarter results should be subdued
[12:44]   Ashish : Thanks Soumya for suggesting Aurobindo 1 week back, got money by shorting ce’s
[12:44]   Soumya : we can look at add on dips i feel rather than shorting it here
[12:44]   Soumya : Sahi hai brother !!
[12:44]   Soumya : Shai can you look at Goodyear positional medium term outlook?
[12:45]   Mayur : shai, how is OFSS on LT only. looks good for a runup to 5200 positional trading only.
[12:45]   Shai : was checking auro chart – weakening below 829 and tgt 806/799
[12:46]   Shai : but shorts should exit auro abv 832 close
[12:46]   Uttam : Auro results today / tom I think?
[12:48]   Shai : good year not on NSE?
[12:48]   Shai : @Soumya I get data only for NSE listed
[12:49]   r m : Auro results on 6th
[12:52]   Shai : ofss updating..
[12:59]   RK : Chinese back to their own way of swing +4%
[13:08]   Shai : ofss will have a good run up once 4240 is crossed then tgt 5000 plus
[13:10]   Mayur : ok. thx a lot shai.
[13:20]   Uttam : Shai Bharti do you see good buying @ today’s lows?
[14:37]   Shai : yes bhart got buying 344
[14:38]   Shankar : Sahi do you see sellers in canbk?
[14:38]   Shankar : *Shai
[14:41]   Shai : yes quite a few in canbk now
[14:41]   Shankar : where do you see support?
[14:49]   Shai : 265- 267 zone
[14:53]   Soumya : Shai views on Arvind shorts?
[14:54]   Shankar : thanks Shai
[14:56]   Shai : seeing 260 on arvind in next 2- 3 sessions with sl abv 274 for now
[15:04]   Soumya : Thank you bro.. One last for the day Jubilant Foodworks for short?
[15:18]   Shai : jubl short below 1445 as it is a supp
[15:21]   Soumya : ok bro thanks a lot..