OrderFlow charts and Notes 09/09/15

[08:54]   r m : Good Morning folks
[08:55]   r m : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-9th-sept-2/
[08:56]   r m : http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-and-notes-080915/
[08:56]   r m : http://vtrender.com/consolidated-orderflow-080915/
[08:56]   Porus : GM RM
[08:56]   r m : Nifty SEP Future levels | Key Reference Area 7600 | Hypo1 above 7752➜7800 SL 7722 | Hypo2 below 7722➜7670➜7601 SL 7765
[08:56]   r m : Banknifty SEP Future levels | KRA 16200 | Hypo1 above 16490➜16582➜16640 SL 16390 | Hypo2 below 16285➜16200➜15973 SL 16385
[08:56]   r m : Hi Porus
[08:56]   Augustin : GM rm
[08:56]   Ashish : GM RM and friends
[08:57]   Anay : GM All
[08:58]   r m : Hi Augustin, Ashish
[08:58]   Kathir : GM Shai RM all friends
[08:58]   r m : @Kathir, Vanakkam Sirjee 🙂
[08:58]   Rajasekharan : GM all
[08:58]   Kathir : vanakkam RM sgx collapsing our PE’s 🙂
[08:59]   r m : Yes Kathir, you did not disclose yesterday that you bought so much of NF? 🙁 😀
[08:59]   Kathir : correction NF PE’s
[08:59]   Tejpreet : GM All.
[09:01]   Koushik : Thanks
[09:04]   Shai : GM all
[09:04]   Augustin : GM Shai
[09:04]   Sandeep : gM ALL
[09:06]   Augustin : @Shai – Do we book 7500 PE’s or hold?
[09:07]   Vikkas C : GM all
[09:07]   Girish : GM everyone
[09:07]   Vikkas C : Hi RM
[09:07]   r m : Hi Vikkas
[09:08]   Moses : GM All
[09:08]   Shai : pre market projecting a gap up
[09:09]   Shai : NF above yesterday highs can run to 7890 F
[09:09]   Shai : BNF to 16843
[09:10]   Shai : if the open is an OAOR we can wait , else we will have to get into some longs on a dip
[09:10]   Vikkas C : and the 7500pe is a hold right ?
[09:10]   Sankar : GM Shai, RM, and everyone 🙂
[09:11]   John : GM all
[09:11]   Shai : 7500 pe we may have to exit at a loss
[09:12]   Vikkas C : ok
[09:12]   Shai : let’s study the open and react
[09:12]   Vikkas C : 🙂
[09:12]   Srini A : GM All
[09:12]   Sharad : GM all
[09:14]   r m : Hi Sankar
[09:15]   Naveen : Shai any updates on the pe?? hold or exit??
[09:16]   r m : @Naveen – (09:11) Shai :7500 pe we may have to exit at a loss(09:12) Shai :let’s study the open and react
[09:16]   Naveen : Thanks rm
[09:18]   RK : GM Shai,RM and all
[09:18]   Shai : 7798 / 16640 support for this open
[09:18]   Shai : if they break we get a gap fill
[09:19]   Shahid null : sellers here?
[09:20]   RK : Shai what was that Algo’s bet?
[09:21]   r m : Hi RK
[09:22]   Tejpreet : [13:34] Tejpreet : The way things are moving looks like RK your missile will be launched overnight in Nifty and we will come to know about it morning.
[09:22]   Sandeep : bnf below 16640
[09:22]   Tejpreet : @RK onlything the missile overshot the destination …..instead of landing on moon landed on mars:)
[09:22]   r m : lol
[09:23]   r m : someone filled it with nuclear fuel instead of liquid propellant 🙂
[09:23]   Hemant : GM folks
[09:23]   Shai : 7500 pe sl is 42 on day – if we move abv 56 then can give us cost price
[09:25]   RK : Tej,RM yeah it has now become a manless missile 🙂
[09:25]   Shai : RK algo was short at close
[09:25]   Kathir : 🙂 Hi RK
[09:25]   Augustin : @Shai – Can avergae 7500pe above 56 and close at 80?
[09:25]   Shai : yes has to cross 56
[09:26]   RK : thanks Shai
[09:26]   RK : Hi Kathir
[09:26]   Shai : Open looks like an OAOR though centered at vwap
[09:26]   Augustin : Ok
[09:28]   r m : Spot VWAP is near 7806 for SEP
[09:29]   Sankar : So we are above series vwap..
[09:30]   r m : yes
[09:30]   r m : http://tinyurl.com/NiftySpotSEP
[09:31]   Sankar : Tx
[09:31]   Sankar : Today close is crucial then.
[09:32]   Kathir : @RM so we hae a chance to test that 7940 sellers from here?
[09:32]   r m : perhaps, normally Shai considers previous series VWAP which is as 8287 for AUG
[09:34]   Kathir : @RM any special reason for this gap up ?
[09:34]   Kathir : or followed china noodles :)?
[09:35]   Suyash : vix is steadily climbing
[09:35]   Kathir : climbing it is -1 % now ?
[09:36]   Kathir : 23.7
[09:36]   r m : @Kathir, I stopped looking for reasons long time back 😀
[09:36]   Suyash : from today’s low
[09:36]   Kathir : thats always great 🙂
[09:36]   Tejpreet : Yeah vix is going down.
[09:37]   Kathir : yeah low is 21.35
[09:37]   Kathir : 7500 pe above 56 now
[09:38]   Sankar : lol RM. Those are words from matured trader. Kudos.
[09:38]   Sankar : how do I post a thumbs up emoticon here 😉
[09:39]   r m : @Sankar, don’t follow Eklavya’s example at least 😉
[09:39]   Kathir : test
[09:39]   Kathir : t
[09:39]   Naveen : 75pe can be avgd now??
[09:40]   Naveen : 56 now
[09:41]   Shai : no wait
[09:41]   Sankar : 😉
[09:41]   Shai : vix adding a few points there
[09:41]   Varun : the more time spent here, lesser the chances of gap fill
[09:41]   Shai : use 7798 F as trigger – (09:18) Shai :7798 / 16640 support for this open
[09:41]   Varun : spending time here for poc to shift up
[09:45]   Shai : yes agree
[09:45]   Shai : OAOR plays out fully now
[09:45]   RK : Vol of 41lacs is something bigger
[09:45]   Shai : we are alos at last week POC 7810
[09:46]   Varun : and with such a small ib in high imbalance, ib r/e will be 2-3 winner today
[09:47]   RK : Shai so we can now look for 7930-7990 if 7850 is taken out properly?
[09:47]   Shai : yes RK
[09:47]   Varun : small extn handle at 7900, which
[09:47]   Varun : was the decider last time
[09:48]   Augustin : @Shai If NF breaks 7798, goes all the way to yday close?
[09:50]   Shai : goes to 7724 and 7669 if 7724 fails
[09:50]   Augustin : Ok
[09:53]   Shai : if gap does not fill then prepare for a 7958/ 8057F
[09:53]   Shai : in next few sessions
[09:53]   Shai : these kind of opens move in the last hour mostly
[09:53]   Augustin : gap has to fill within IB?
[09:53]   Shai : context is stuck sellers now
[09:53]   Shai : and if we stay here, shorts begin to unwind
[09:54]   RK : Yes not much of short covering yesterday
[09:54]   R Goel : so the ones at close shai where we see in the delta charts
[09:54]   Shai : Mostly does but not necessary
[09:54]   R Goel : rgt at the top
[09:55]   Shai : yes
[09:55]   Shai : as also short from last week who may think of booking profits
[09:55]   RK : Shai if LVN is taken over by gaps like this 7807, will it act as support during retrace?
[09:57]   R Goel : shai just one thing in the daily delta there is a 50680*87050
[09:57]   R Goel : does this suggest at this price the buyer more
[09:57]   R Goel : compared to seller
[09:57]   R Goel : the 50680 was in red and got neutral
[10:00]   Sankar : 7795 PR1
[10:00]   Girish : gap fill coming in BNF, Shai ?
[10:01]   Shai : yes BNF possible gap fill
[10:02]   Uttam : NF also below 7798 now
[10:03]   Shai : RG the colors are about who is more aggressive , the qty differs cos we get buy/ sell at diff rates but net at close of session total buyers= total selelrs
[10:05]   Sumit K : what does the dirty/deep green color
[10:05]   Sumit K : signify
[10:05]   Shai : Sell BNF in 2 parts at 16595 and at 16640 sl of 16710 tgt 16460/ 16310
[10:06]   r m : @Sumit, dirty green is the diagonal opposite of red or gree
[10:06]   r m : it signifies that other side is aggressive 🙂
[10:06]   R Goel : thanks shai
[10:08]   Shai : dirty green 🙂 Surely you hate bulls Sumit 🙂
[10:08]   r m : lol
[10:08]   Girish : 🙂
[10:08]   Sumit K : 🙂
[10:08]   Shahid null : 🙂
[10:16]   Augustin : @Shai – Still hold 7500 pe?
[10:18]   Shai : trail sl of 52
[10:20]   Uttam : thanks Shai
[10:24]   Vikkas C : shai if the gap doesnt fill in the 1st hour then more likely to brk the IBH ?
[10:27]   Uttam : it is long for NF if IBH goes?
[10:28]   Shai : Keep an NF buy abv 7829 sl fof 7797 tgt 7866/ 7885
[10:28]   Shai : Do not add the secon lot of BNF at 16640 – keep sl at 16670 for the original trade- same tgts
[10:33]   Girish : What’s the reason for Short on BNF, Shai ?
[10:38]   Tejpreet : Shai can the dips be brought now .(09:53) Shai :if gap does not fill then prepare for a 7958/ 8057F
[10:39]   r m : @Tejpreet, so far both are trading below vwap
[10:40]   Tejpreet : Yes …i think we will dip below ibl and then maybe some otm call.
[10:40]   Tejpreet : here it comes 🙂
[10:41]   r m : I think pink, green will give a signal though with a lag
[10:42]   RK : we need to look at buyer’s commitment here
[10:43]   r m : 8K CE not coming down
[10:45]   Uttam : IBL goes
[10:45]   r m : BNF gap fill ho gaya
[10:46]   RK : 🙂
[10:46]   Ashish : Shai, please adjust Banknifty 5 minute chart
[10:49]   Uttam : first tgt in BNF almost here
[10:49]   Ashish : Thanks Shai
[10:50]   Shai : No Tejpreet intra day buys only abv IBL and vwap for now
[10:50]   Naveen : Shai now 7724 possible?? now can we short??
[10:50]   Shai : yes
[10:51]   Shai : can short sl of 7829
[10:51]   RK : Shai VAH is at 7734..ref of 7724?
[10:52]   Tejpreet : Thanks Shai will wait …. till we get there
[10:53]   Shai : @ Girish OPen type ORR in BNF and we wanted to short when vwap/ dpoc broke at 16640
[10:54]   Shai : Part Book BNF 16495 and railse sl to 16565 on balance
[10:56]   Girish : thanks, shai
[10:56]   Shai : yes RK 7724 was the second seller from MOn think
[10:56]   Uttam : thanks Shai was abt to ask abt trailing SL in BNF
[10:57]   RK : yes,7725 is that open sellers at open on Monday..got it
[10:59]   Shai : Was actually an ORR that day
[10:59]   RK : yes strong rej at open
[11:00]   Shai : I pay a liitle more attention to the vol at ORR point as it is a determined player who is ready to step in and stop ongoing momentum
[11:00]   RK : so we may go there to test if seller can again step in there
[11:01]   Shai : maybe as it does not look like he liquidated
[11:02]   RK : yes..think so..but its a good learing that strong hands at open of anyday should be given importance in the following session..thanks
[11:02]   RK : 8sessions
[11:02]   RK : *sessions
[11:02]   Rahul P : are we going back to test 7815 & 7840 ?
[11:03]   RK : would you consider today’s open as ORR in NF?
[11:03]   Rahul P : this is 3 sept value area
[11:05]   Kathir : @RM are we out of that 7400 PE ?
[11:06]   Uttam : NF above 7810 will be a good buy Shai?
[11:09]   r m : @Kathir, re 7500PE (10:16) Augustin :@Shai – Still hold 7500 pe?(10:18) Shai :trail sl of 52
[11:09]   Kathir : I am asking about that Shai’s 7400 pe monthly view I think?
[11:10]   r m : i exited last week I think
[11:11]   Kathir : ok thanks
[11:11]   Kathir : just for info no position
[11:11]   r m : ok
[11:11]   RK : Kathir that was going in round for between 40 and 100 🙂
[11:11]   Kathir : want to know whether nf below 7400 this month is still open ?
[11:12]   Kathir : yes RK
[11:12]   Kathir : may be another close below 8700 opens up taht again?
[11:13]   Kathir : sorry 7700 🙂
[11:14]   r m : @Kathir, I think that 7400PE closed itself, nothing official about it 🙂
[11:15]   Kathir : ok thanks sir
[11:15]   Uttam : i am still holding one lot 7400pe do i retain or exit
[11:15]   Vikkas C : shai is NF a buy here as we are back inside IB
[11:16]   Tejpreet : There was a saying posted in our older chats … ib breakouts between 1045 are false …can some one confirm the timings …or just refresh the same !
[11:16]   Varun : 10-15/1045 fail
[11:17]   Tejpreet : Thanks varun …i think it was yours .
[11:17]   Varun : no kris
[11:17]   Uttam : so we can take that to be a clue for going long once NF gets back abve VWAP>
[11:17]   Varun : i just use it fr ref
[11:19]   Vikkas C : i suppose kris already went long as per that in BNF
[11:19]   Vikkas C : he updated in some grp
[11:19]   Vikkas C : and booked half after he got 100 odd points
[11:20]   Tejpreet : Kris is amzing …he booked some october calls !
[11:20]   Shai : exit teh 7500 puts
[11:21]   Vikkas C : +1 tej ..hes brilliant with catching tops and bottoms in options for ID
[11:21]   Vikkas C : only he knows how he does it
[11:22]   Tejpreet : 🙂
[11:30]   Sandeep : shai, nf buy above 7829 is open right?
[11:31]   Misaal : 7829 + in play ?
[11:31]   Shai : yes
[11:31]   r m : 8K CE has broken the day’s high though NF is still away
[11:31]   Shai : buyers are coming frm vwap
[11:31]   Sankar : some of the CEs didn’t even broke first 15 mins bar low RM.
[11:31]   Uttam : so by all means we will have a upside RE as well
[11:31]   Vikkas C : big seller just popped up from no where in 5 mins :s
[11:32]   Sankar : 7800 also same.. didn’t broke first bar low, but broke high already.
[11:32]   Vikkas C : haha..neutralised
[11:32]   Shai : Uttam yes possible neutral extreme
[11:32]   r m : yep
[11:33]   r m : Shai typed and NF did 🙂
[11:33]   Uttam : thanks Shai extreme meaning we will close at day’s high
[11:33]   Ashish : big seller
[11:33]   Tejpreet : False ib rule proved once again 😉
[11:33]   r m : @Uttam, either day’s high or low 🙂
[11:34]   Varun : yup
[11:34]   Varun : @tej
[11:34]   Rahul P : Shai,,,see the seller at top 330000 qty
[11:34]   Varun : read tl on twitter
[11:34]   Ashish : Shai, in 5 minutes, 33000 is big seller but in daily candle 330001 is green….confused
[11:34]   Misaal : yes. Same 1
[11:34]   Misaal : question
[11:35]   Suyash : seller on 30min and buyer on the daily ??
[11:35]   Sankar : so even Footprint chart is confused with NF’s movements..
[11:35]   Sankar : not able to figure out between short term trend and long term trend 😀
[11:35]   Uttam : thanks RM
[11:36]   Shai : Positional Buy alert in NF – Buy NF 7835 with sl of 7701 tgt 8066
[11:36]   Uttam : super
[11:37]   Shai : system Buy signal
[11:38]   Prakash : @shai is there any possibility for BNF to touch 18K in this move up – positional
[11:38]   Misaal : Can you buy now with it moving up 4% in 2 sessions ?
[11:39]   Rahul P : shai, your view on the big seller on top please
[11:39]   Shai : was a mistimed in teh daily-it’s refreshed now (11:35) Suyash :seller on 30min and buyer on the daily ??
[11:40]   Suyash : yes shai…a few of us were confused with that. 😛
[11:41]   Misaal : Delta has come of by 6-7 Lakhs
[11:41]   Aayush : shai any intra short level… 7797 or DL?
[11:42]   Shai : was a seller
[11:42]   Tejpreet : Algo going for vwap .
[11:42]   Shai : could be a program and absorbed all the buying there
[11:42]   Uttam : SL for intra longs @ 7797 right?
[11:42]   Rahul P : shai, he was a seller exactly at kra….something is going here
[11:43]   Shai : sl of 7797 if you got a fill in there- if not buy abv 7833
[11:43]   RK : who is the blacksheep here in this room..second time its happening Rahul :))
[11:44]   RK : but Rahul KRA is at 7600
[11:44]   Tejpreet : Rahul you are refering which days kr.
[11:44]   Rahul P : 7840 was 3 sept vah
[11:44]   Tejpreet : Ok
[11:45]   Anay : big seller brings vwap
[11:45]   Tejpreet : 🙂
[11:46]   Shai : Prakash for now 17040 is swing res in BN
[11:46]   Shai : spot
[11:48]   Shai : for now neutral extreme setup in play in BNF
[11:48]   Shai : still 7797 is ref lne for shorts
[11:49]   Shai : BN has reversed
[11:49]   Shai : can do 16840 from here
[11:49]   Uttam : your second target you gave yesterday?
[11:49]   Shai : sl will be below IBL
[11:49]   Tejpreet : (09:53) Shai :these kind of opens move in the last hour mostly. Is BN better prepared for that now.
[11:49]   Shai : same neutral extreme concept
[11:50]   Shai : yes Tejpreet
[11:50]   Tejpreet : Great.
[11:50]   Hemant : is 7500 an exit Shai?
[11:51]   Shai : yes asked to exit that came off 70 with vols
[11:51]   Hemant : I missed that 🙂
[11:52]   Uttam : 7400 PE am holding 1 lot, could be kept right Shai?
[11:57]   RK : What if who shorted at open again added to his posn? 🙂
[11:57]   RK : anyway above high or below IBL we have a good move based on that posn..
[11:58]   Kathir : RK he is our KRA now
[11:59]   Vikkas C : gut feel post europe this is crossing ibh
[12:00]   RK : Yes Kathir
[12:00]   Kathir : we need to take his 330000 right? for upside
[12:02]   Kathir : @RK is it the 7725 sellers averaging 🙂 ?
[12:02]   Vikkas C : yup
[12:03]   Vikkas C : daily charts have just been showing reds at the highs since yesterday ..gods knows whats in store
[12:04]   Shai : yes
[12:04]   Shai : yesterday was the first open which went off this month for the open
[12:05]   r m : @Vikkas, writers will try to balance to adjust their option positions, guess close will give a clearer picture
[12:06]   Tejpreet : BN rewards again 🙂
[12:06]   Shai : what’s up BNF?
[12:06]   Vikkas C : i think if we do get 7950 today or tomo then PUTS shud be bought in truck loads
[12:06]   Vikkas C : rest shai can guide us better
[12:06]   Vikkas C : hey krise just noticed u in the room ..welcome back
[12:06]   Vikkas C : *krish
[12:07]   Koushik : Shai– for the positionsl signal is it ok to buy 8000 ce?
[12:08]   Hemant : BNF in crazy zone 🙂
[12:08]   Shai : BNF now also neutral
[12:08]   Shai : type day – I meant
[12:10]   Shai : Can Koushik except that a 7800 or a 7900 will give you better returns f trading through options
[12:10]   Koushik : ok thanks ,
[12:12]   Shai : that cabinet meet is keeping the mkt buzzing
[12:12]   Shai : msty a date will come for parl session
[12:17]   Kris : Hi friends!
[12:18]   Kris : Finally back – on a mega bullish day –
[12:18]   r m : Hi Kris 🙂
[12:18]   Varun : u must be sneezing
[12:18]   Varun : at 10.20
[12:18]   Kris : Hope Shai removes some blame on me for being perma bear! 🙂
[12:18]   Tejpreet : 🙂
[12:18]   Kris : yes Varun – wanted to know the reason – and hence came into room!
[12:19]   Varun : wht if ure nt here
[12:19]   Varun : traders stalk ur tl
[12:19]   Varun : on twitter
[12:20]   Varun : 100 points on bnf and oct ce booker ahem ahem
[12:20]   Kris : @Varun – we are close to 300 points from entry in BN 🙂
[12:20]   Varun : awesome
[12:20]   Kris : not much technical knowledge – just tukka trade!
[12:20]   Vikkas C : such tukka trades good for ur bank acc 😀
[12:20]   Aayush : whats the trade though?
[12:22]   Kris : @AAyush – it is long trade – based on the theory that 10.15-10.45 IB break is not good.
[12:23]   Kathir : espcially against trend ?
[12:24]   Shai : Nice 1 Kris
[12:25]   Anay : Good trade Kris 🙂
[12:25]   Kris : Thanks Shai.
[12:28]   Varun : HAPPY KRIS
[12:28]   Varun : happy kris
[12:28]   Varun : u gt it from shai
[12:28]   Varun : and u were saying fav from me 😉
[12:29]   Kris : @Varun – nothing better – specially – if it comes from Shai.
[12:30]   Shai : refreshing data- half a min pls
[12:32]   Varun : seems extn handle will be K period only
[12:32]   Varun : like always
[12:32]   Anay : looks like the algo seller who brought vwap has been neutralised
[12:33]   Vikkas C : @varun thanx buddy for taking care of my sister on twitter
[12:34]   Anay : ??
[12:36]   Kathir : @shai any views for nf and bnf trgts today or by close ?
[12:39]   Varun : srishti is ur sis
[12:39]   Varun : cool
[12:39]   Vikkas C : yippie sir
[12:39]   Varun : she has some good knack of mp
[12:39]   Varun : promoted her to tweet more
[12:39]   Vikkas C : yup .. 🙂
[12:39]   Varun : sort of my style of mp
[12:40]   Varun : very similar day type
[12:45]   Shai : Kathir 7885/91 on upside and 16843/ 866 in BNF
[12:45]   Kathir : thanks shai
[12:51]   Anay : @Shai can you make the 30 min broader to include 2-3 bars and the daily a bit narrower?
[12:52]   Varun : perfect
[12:52]   Kathir : @anay ligntening response from shai for you 🙂
[12:52]   Anay : Thanks “_
[12:52]   Vikkas C : Krishnamohan Chivukula, [09.09.15 12:50]#OldJungleSaying on Trend Days and DD Days, we get a counter direction move for 20 minutes between 12.30 to 13.30 – Stay with trend
[12:52]   Varun : mumbi-pune close relation @kathir
[12:52]   Varun : 😉
[12:52]   Kathir : 🙂
[12:52]   Shai : 🙂
[12:52]   Anay : bhai Pune-Pune 😀
[12:52]   Varun : dekha
[12:53]   Kathir : @varun then I am the longest 🙂
[12:53]   Shai : There is many times a sideways daily profile but today cos of the gap up it makes sense to narrow it down
[12:53]   Varun : reservations needed
[12:53]   Kathir : lol yeah varun
[13:00]   Vikkas C : FM To Brief Media On Cabinet Meet Outcome At 1:30 pm
[13:04]   Shai : 16860 was a good buy in BNF
[13:04]   Varun : 4
[13:04]   Shai : 16680***
[13:09]   Hemant : Shai its 1 and a buy dip is around th corner ?
[13:14]   Anay : 7860 Sellers of last week defending till now
[13:22]   Shai : yes
[13:23]   Shai : anyone got an exit near 7865 tgt 1- did not trigger for me
[13:23]   Varun : 60
[13:23]   Varun : i sold at
[13:23]   Varun : traded 6162
[13:23]   Shai : 🙂
[13:24]   Shai : nice
[13:24]   Sandeep : i kpet at 7860 😛
[13:24]   Sandeep : *kept
[13:24]   Vikkas C : same same ..mine trigger at 7861
[13:25]   Shai : if close abv 7810 today we are headed for 7940 plus
[13:26]   Gaurav : Spot level Shai?
[13:27]   Vikkas C : moneylifers won the case against NSE
[13:27]   Vikkas C : damnnn
[13:28]   Gaurav : 50 lakhs
[13:30]   Vikkas C : yeah
[13:30]   Shai : No F
[13:30]   Gaurav : Thank you
[13:30]   Anay : wow. awesome
[13:36]   Vikkas C : this AJ idiot
[13:37]   Vikkas C : he comes live on tv and mkt cracks
[13:37]   r m : lol
[13:38]   r m : @Vikkas, should have bought puts when you got AJ’s TV schedule 🙂
[13:38]   Vikkas C : hahahhaha
[13:38]   Vikkas C : stuck seller banao isko 25250 ko
[13:41]   Porus : Shai, what sl to use for nf long intra?
[13:43]   RK : even my neighbour is convinced now that NF has reversed for 8000..that conviction would be a big struggle for this to move up..either make a strong push or perish situation now 🙂
[13:44]   Vikkas C : @tej buddy u shifted to NT ..hows ur experience
[13:45]   r m : @RK – man, you got a whole neighborhood of traders! 🙂
[13:45]   RK : lol
[13:45]   Tejpreet : Too good …only bad thing my number of trades has come down as I am practicing on it 🙂
[13:45]   r m : lol
[13:46]   Vikkas C : so u using it mostly for MP only
[13:46]   Vikkas C : or candlesticks as well
[13:46]   r m : @Tejpreet, some day you’ll have to teach us how you are using it for option trading 🙂
[13:46]   Tejpreet : Yeah as of now MP and vwap
[13:47]   r m : we’ll pay commission on profits as your tution fee 🙂
[13:47]   Vikkas C : i dwnloaded the software last nyt now going to setup the data and tpo indicators
[13:47]   Anay : looking for dl below 7815
[13:47]   Vikkas C : do u have any contact @ truedata who can help me out with the setup
[13:48]   Tejpreet : Option is all about getting in and out fast case in point …everyone talking about dip aj …got into 7900 put at 172 got out 182 …went on to 190 plus …could be positional MB also .
[13:48]   r m : great Tejpreet!
[13:48]   r m : now give part of profit to AJ for his help 😀
[13:48]   Tejpreet : Vikkas there chat support is fab just ask them …they will help you out.
[13:49]   Vikkas C : perfect thanks tej
[13:49]   r m : @Tejpreet, so you are trading ITM strikes for intraday?
[13:49]   Vikkas C : has anyone seen the shape of the bell its mkaing today
[13:50]   Tejpreet : RM already sharing with AJ ….stt , income tax , stamp duty and what not !
[13:50]   Shai : Porus SL is the same- we did not get exit 1
[13:50]   r m : @Tejpreet, lol
[13:51]   Tejpreet : Yes RM itm with jsut 5-6 point SL by seeing OF and turning points Shai mentions on chat via BO.
[13:52]   r m : OK, doing great man, thanks!
[13:52]   r m : @Vikkas, ye lo sirjee, aapki bell 🙂 http://screencast.com/t/0JbZZmzSoob
[13:53]   Tejpreet : Thanks RM.
[13:53]   Anay : how much does NT cost? sw + data?
[13:53]   Shai : Buy BNf 16685 sk of 16625 tgt 16767/ 16840
[13:53]   Vikkas C : NT is free
[13:54]   Tejpreet : Yes
[13:54]   Vikkas C : only the data costs + tpo indicatir + addons
[13:54]   r m : @Anay, only data cost unless you want to trade frm the charts
[13:57]   Tejpreet : Looking at the lovely NT charts RM posts …he has truly mastered NT:)
[13:59]   Vikkas C : yaar ye AJ ko bagaao tv se
[14:00]   r m : @Vikkas, buy PE on entry, buy CE when his interview is ending 😀
[14:00]   Vikkas C : lol
[14:00]   Anay : K period begins 😉
[14:01]   Anay : gimmme 7750 😀
[14:01]   r m : 🙂
[14:01]   Vikkas C : nahi anay
[14:01]   Vikkas C : 7850
[14:01]   Vikkas C : :p
[14:01]   r m : K-Trader 🙂
[14:02]   Sandeep : bnf sl hit
[14:03]   RK : Shai potential FA now at top?
[14:03]   Uttam : BNF SL
[14:04]   r m : @RK, NF has SA above IBL, succesful auction 🙂
[14:05]   r m : no single prints
[14:05]   Shai : BNF stopped
[14:05]   r m : (14:04) Shai :xit the NF longs here at cmp intra day
[14:06]   Misaal : 7829 one ?
[14:06]   Shai : yes
[14:06]   Shai : back under IBH and vwap is a struggle now for upwards move intra
[14:08]   Anay : booked half near ibl
[14:09]   Shai : nice trade
[14:09]   r m : @Anay, you put some magnet at IBL for attractng NF? 🙂
[14:09]   Tejpreet : (14:08) Tejpreet :Shai what would the day type be now that both IBH AND IBL extensions have failed.
[14:09]   Anay : 🙂
[14:09]   Shai : neutral day still
[14:09]   Shai : only close is undecided
[14:10]   Tejpreet : But probable is vwap close ?
[14:10]   Shai : lots of sellers in last 30 min
[14:17]   Tejpreet : Here comes the VWA P 😉
[14:18]   r m : Great Tejpreet, I am sure you made a major portion of that 149 to 165 move in 7800CE 🙂
[14:18]   Tejpreet : 152 odd to 161.
[14:19]   r m : beautiful, you are an artist 🙂
[14:20]   Tejpreet : All thanks to MP and teachings and learnings here.
[14:21]   r m : 🙂
[14:24]   Vikkas C : yes tej thats why even i want NT now
[14:24]   Vikkas C : gr8 learning for the room and now time to explore a bit more
[14:24]   Tejpreet : 🙂
[14:24]   Vikkas C : *from
[14:24]   r m : vwap sent NF packing
[14:25]   Rahul P : anyone expecting 7600 now ??
[14:26]   r m : @Shai, usually such fat profiles end up at vwap?
[14:28]   Misaal : if you want to get into longs again. At what point would you do so ?
[14:32]   Anay : 13:54 r m: @Anay, only data cost unless you want to trade frm the charts
[14:32]   Anay : ok thanks
[14:32]   Anay : cost of data?
[14:33]   Ashish : Tej, how r u getting TPO charts in NT??
[14:33]   Tejpreet : Am still on tial period from couple of vendors.
[14:33]   Tejpreet : trial
[14:34]   Porus : Tej, which vendors?
[14:34]   Ashish : From Fin-Alg??
[14:34]   Tejpreet : Yes plus few more
[14:35]   Ashish : What are those tej??
[14:35]   Tejpreet : porus give me your mail id wiil mail you post market . Best is join BMT forum and learn about NT7.
[14:35]   Shai : Misaal a close abv 7810 is a positional longs trigger as abv POC last wjk
[14:36]   Porus : Tej, porusv@hotmail.com
[14:36]   Shai : Yes RM profiles are nice and D so rotational and most likely close at vwap/dpoc
[14:36]   r m : Thanks Shai
[14:37]   Porus : Shai, D profile today implies more balancei in next cople of days?
[14:37]   r m : @Anay, Truedata is approx 1250 pm for just fno and 2K for both fno and cash
[14:38]   Girish : dpoc at?
[14:38]   Vikkas C : 7824
[14:38]   Tejpreet : got it porus
[14:41]   Ashish : Tej, please send me also @ ashjal714@gmail.com
[14:41]   Tejpreet : Shai inacse of neutral extreme close can we expecta continution tomorrow in the direction of close.
[14:42]   Shai : It means a few things Porus but for now it means value not accepted below 7640 spot roughly and we are back to 7660- 8040 range roughly
[14:42]   Tejpreet : Yes Ashish.
[14:42]   Shai : for tom it means a fairly neutral bias
[14:43]   Ashish : Thanks Tej 🙂
[14:43]   Girish : Shai – BNF longs above 16680 now?
[14:43]   Shai : Yes Tejpreet but move below NE high or low is counter action
[14:44]   Shai : Girish not on intra and postnl will be a carry only if close abv 16690 on spot
[14:45]   Tejpreet : Thanks Shai.
[14:45]   Girish : okay
[14:48]   Porus : Ok, Shai
[14:49]   r m : I think there should be another day type, Perfectly neutral day 🙂
[14:49]   r m : NF using IB as pingpong table and vwap as net 🙂
[14:49]   Tejpreet : hahaha
[14:49]   Ashish : LOL Rm
[14:50]   r m : and Tejpreet is fast enough to play from both sides of the table 🙂
[14:51]   Porus : rounders 🙂
[14:52]   r m : 🙂
[14:52]   Tejpreet : RM 😉
[14:52]   Naveen : Shai 65 again possible??
[14:56]   Shai : looks diff as vwap dpoc are togher
[14:56]   Shai : together*
[14:56]   Naveen : ok thanks shai
[14:56]   Uttam : so close will be around vwap?
[15:00]   Vikkas C : shai view on asian paints pls ?
[15:01]   Vikkas C : oops sorry
[15:03]   Vikkas C : can we take NF as BTST
[15:08]   Shai : yes can
[15:08]   Vikkas C : thanx shai
[15:08]   Shai : fine D’s in both today
[15:13]   Porus : pos T of 7940 is intact?
[15:17]   Varun : last 1.5 hrs only reds
[15:18]   Vikkas C : varun if u see daily OF then highs have heavy reds
[15:18]   Vikkas C : yesterday and today
[15:20]   Shai : yes Porus
[15:20]   Rahul P : any case for stbt ??
[15:22]   Shai : Not on this clsoe but below 7795 F tom may be a short
[15:25]   Shai : break of val and vah is the trigger tom
[15:25]   Gaurav : It doesnt’t want to close above 7810 it seems lol
[15:26]   Shai : OrderFlow again shows reds but for now AMT shows a higher balance and POC higher
[15:26]   Shai : so we wait for VAL to break tom
[15:26]   Shai : as conf
[15:26]   Kathir : but these guys will open 100 points down 🙂
[15:27]   RK : someone aggresively shorting here
[15:27]   RK : 67k
[15:27]   Vikkas C : yes huge rk
[15:27]   Shai : postional will hold as higher value means a move up though the expected shortcovering did not come abv 7840 today
[15:27]   RK : and he got counter green
[15:28]   Vikkas C : neutralised on 5 mins
[15:28]   Shai : try to be nimbe at tom open and early
[15:28]   Shai : nimble*
[15:29]   Shai : as drive can come from this profile
[15:29]   Anay : adjusted close 16640 and 7828
[15:29]   r m : hands on trigger tomorrow 🙂
[15:30]   Ashish : Thanks and bye all
[15:30]   Shai : 🙂
[15:30]   Shai : Bye all
[15:30]   Tejpreet : Bye All.
[15:30]   Vikkas C : bye all
[15:30]   Shai : Have a nice evening
[15:30]   Kathir : thanks and bye all 🙂
[15:30]   Anay : bye all
[15:30]   Sankar : Bye Shai and all. Thanks.
[15:30]   Girish : Bye all
[15:30]   r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great evening 🙂
[15:31]   Porus : bye all

[09:11]   Ashish : Shai, What’s the next support for USD/INR?
[09:12]   Shai : 66.44
[09:13]   Ashish : Thanks Shai
[09:14]   Kathir : @ashish 66.5 pe 20 to 33 paise had some trade booked now 🙂
[09:15]   Ashish : Good kathir, congrats
[09:15]   Ashish : I am holding shorts in fututes since yesterday 😉
[09:17]   Kathir : thanks and congrats
[09:23]   Ashish : Thanks
[09:26]   Tejpreet : Shai views on Indusind bank.
[09:33]   Shai : res weekly at 858 but inta ay still good abv 850.5
[09:33]   Uttam : reliance looking good for intra Shai?
[09:34]   Nandesh : i request u to please mention name of stock when ever u shows ur view on any stock
[09:35]   r m : it is reply to Tejpreet on Indusindbk 🙂
[09:35]   Nandesh : k
[09:36]   Nandesh : ur view on m&m
[09:39]   Tejpreet : Thanks Shai for indusbk.
[09:43]   Shai : RIL for intra has to cross abv 860 the 871 poss
[09:44]   Uttam : thanks Shai
[09:44]   Shai : MM nice support at 1138 – may head to 1196, intra res at 1171
[09:55]   Uttam : shai view on Sail, unable to cross 53
[10:02]   Nandesh : ur view on M&M intraday
[10:03]   r m : (09:44) Shai :MM nice support at 1138 – may head to 1196, intra res at 1171
[10:03]   Uttam : Shai : MM nice support at 1138 – may head to 1196, intra res at 1171
[10:03]   r m : 🙂
[10:03]   Uttam : sorry RM was about to paste when saw your msg 😉
[10:03]   r m : lol
[10:04]   Kathir : 🙂 uttam – diff between ordinary man and super man
[10:05]   Nandesh : tnx @ rm
[10:07]   r m : @Kathir, too much leg pulling man, I am already more than 6’2″ why stretch more 🙂
[10:08]   Kathir : 🙂
[10:18]   Naveen : Shai views on castrolind please??
[10:20]   Shai : castrol good abv 428 set for 439
[10:20]   Shai : a weekly close abv 440 will push it up more
[10:20]   Uttam : tata steel looking good Shai? above recent swing high of 235-236?
[10:21]   Shai : yes headed for 248
[10:21]   Uttam : great 🙂 thanks
[10:24]   Naveen : thanks shai
[10:26]   Tejpreet : @Kathir …Amtek moving now …did you get into the calls.
[10:27]   Kathir : wow Tej I didnt enetr was in to usd/inr pe so 🙂 congrats man
[10:27]   RK : When mkt rebounds from some ST bottom LIC is running up fast..may be because people believe it used all the funds to buy dips and now in profit..at the same time ST bottoms goes off, LIC sinks first coz they go below water day by day :))
[10:28]   Tejpreet : Thanks got just 1 lot booked at 4.55
[10:28]   Kathir : yeah fut up 13 % awesome
[10:29]   Tejpreet : 🙂
[10:29]   Kathir : 15% freeze now 🙂 no sellers
[10:31]   r m : LICHF does not invest in stock markets, it invests only in housing finance 🙂
[10:32]   r m : If they ever list LIC, that will be the mega mega listing of all time
[10:32]   RK : but RM who cares..its all about belief :))
[10:33]   RK : it moves in such trend only 🙂
[10:33]   Tejpreet : Yes RM LIC ipo will be a mega event.
[10:33]   RK : but LIC listing would be like Alibaba of India 🙂
[10:34]   r m : yes, there was an index fund of ICICI group called spice, it was a sensex ETF, when spice stock began moving up, folks started buying spice ETF inspite of repeated clarifications by ICICI 😀
[10:34]   Uttam : any view on Coal Shai, has been lagging but strong support @ 335-330 levels
[10:34]   r m : poor guys had to rename their ETF 🙂
[10:35]   Naveen : Shai sbin views please
[10:35]   RK : RM :))
[10:48]   Gaurav : Shai Intra view/positional view for Sks please
[11:13]   Shai : coal india may drift lower- postn supp at 325
[11:13]   Shai : intra day supp at 335
[11:13]   Uttam : thanks Shai
[11:13]   Sandeep : shai, views on hfdc bank postl
[11:15]   Shai : sbin res at 235 and only a weekly close abv 235 will be good in there
[11:15]   Shai : supp 224
[11:19]   Shai : sks staying back at the lows a, has a valid weekly supp near 433 but for intra day oves has to cross abv 445 then 457 plus can be seen
[11:19]   Gaurav : Thanks Shai
[11:20]   Shai : hdfc banl cross of 1018 can set it for 1032/ 1035, res at 1052
[11:22]   Sandeep : thx shai
[11:45]   Naveen : Shai views on ibulhsgfinplease
[11:51]   Nandesh : i bought M&M @1175 , plz guide Intra target
[11:51]   Uttam : TataSteel could be a trend day here Shai?
[11:53]   Shai : ibull open drive from 730 likely to do 712 again. abv 732 is bullish for 752
[11:54]   Naveen : thanks shai
[11:55]   Shai : MM intra res at 1171 abv that may do 1192
[11:55]   Nandesh : tnx
[11:56]   Shai : tata stell not a trend day but a NV type intra supp is good at 234
[11:57]   Uttam : thanks Shai
[12:16]   Naveen : Shai just watch indusind bank…watta move..can u give the intra targets and sl please
[12:25]   Shai : whoa- Indeed very nice 1
[12:25]   Shai : 876 still possi intra
[12:25]   Naveen : yes shai…:)
[12:26]   Naveen : already long at 858..can i add here??
[12:26]   Shai : yes but sl still at 856 only
[12:27]   Naveen : ok thanks shai
[12:27]   Shai : Steel is up on the propsed anti sunping duty being discussed- could close at highs today
[12:27]   Shai : dumping*
[12:33]   Tejpreet : Shai views on HUL ben quiet in this jumping market.
[12:34]   Shai : 789 is a good intra supp but no momentum till below 814
[12:35]   Tejpreet : Thanks.
[12:44]   Uttam : Shai Sail above 54 now, next levels on upside as well as support for longs now?
[13:08]   Shai : 56 on intra
[13:09]   Shai : push tata steel also- have built a position there 🙂
[13:09]   r m : 🙂
[13:25]   RK : Shai TCS good short here?
[13:27]   Shai : tcs getting weak below 2552 may drop to 2526
[13:27]   Shai : res at 2575
[13:27]   RK : yes..thanks
[13:31]   Nandesh : ur view on mindtree intraday
[13:52]   Gaurav : Can carry M&M for tomorrow for further upside Shai?>
[13:56]   Shai : mindtree 1365 res but 1333 is supp
[13:56]   Shai : bu closer t 1333 with small sl
[13:57]   Shai : MM carry if abv 1199 at close or buy abv 1199 next now
[13:57]   Shai : 1197-99 is suply
[13:57]   Gaurav : Thanks Shai
[14:02]   Kathir : @shai what SL for positional long TAta steel ?
[14:05]   Shai : 133
[14:06]   Kathir : ok 233 thanks
[14:08]   Tejpreet : Shai what would the day type be now that both IBH AND IBL extensions have failed.
[14:16]   Uttam : Reliance showing strength, above 871 now Shai
[14:29]   Gaurav : Shai can add Pidilite here for tomorrow?
[14:49]   Uttam : Reliance showing strength, above 871 now Shai, could be a positional buy for 910+?
[14:49]   Uttam : Coal looks to be breaking out of balance Shai? please do confirm
[14:58]   Shai : RIL may head to 904 sl below 848
[14:59]   Shai : pidilit still rotational – trigger is abv 560 for new adds
[14:59]   Gaurav : Thank You
[14:59]   Shai : can do 600 if breaking abv
[14:59]   Gaurav : oh Wow
[15:01]   Shai : coal current profile is a b and not good for longs yet- last week poc of 346 in min trigger for longs fllowed by 352 cross
[15:01]   Vikkas C : (15:00) Vikkas C:shai view on asian paints pls ?
[15:01]   Uttam : thanks Shai
[15:02]   Shai : asian looking good
[15:02]   Shai : may see 836/ 852 tom as a BTST
[15:02]   Vikkas C : thanx shai
[15:07]   Gaurav : Bank of Baroda please if possible
[15:13]   Shai : bankbaroda supply is there at 185 abd last wek vah of 183 not yet crossed, may pull back a bit
[15:13]   Gaurav : Thank You