OrderFlow charts and Notes 25/03/15

[08:46]   Kathir : Hi all 🙂
[08:46]   r m : Hi Kathir 🙂
[08:46]   r m : Good Morning folks!
[08:47]   r m : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-25th-march/
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[08:47]   Porus : GM all
[08:48]   r m : Nifty MAR Future levels Key Reference Area 8552 Hypo1 below 8552➜8510➜8480 SL 8585 Hypo2 above 8586➜8612➜8644 SL 8552
[08:48]   r m : Banknifty MAR Future levels KRA 18465 Hypo1 below 18465➜18385➜18220 SL 18580 Hypo2 above 18620➜18750➜18852 SL 18610
[08:54]   r m : SGX Nifty trading flat
[08:58]   Shai : GM all
[08:59]   RK : GM Shai and all
[09:04]   Kathir : @GM Shai RK
[09:06]   Kathir : @SHAI we get buy sell levels intra in twitter from today?
[09:10]   RK : Hi Kathir
[09:10]   Rahul G : hello all gm
[09:11]   Rav : GM….site is ebcoming colorful and great day by day
[09:12]   Rav : green color is very nice than old dull and lull blue
[09:13]   Sharad : GM all
[09:14]   Sachith : GM all
[09:16]   Kris : GM All 🙂
[09:16]   Kathir : GM kris bagwan
[09:16]   r m : Hi Kris 🙂
[09:17]   Kris : Hi Rm, Kathir 🙂
[09:17]   Varun : the figures in the first 5 min chart are totally messed up
[09:17]   Varun : volume figures
[09:23]   Varun : thanks
[09:24]   Shai : open in range and value
[09:24]   Shai : strength abv 8587/97 again today
[09:24]   Shai : supp at 8552
[09:25]   Shai : Not much changed in the auction yesterday in terms of levels
[09:26]   r m : NF is running on a treadmill since Friday!
[09:28]   Shai : BNF was a neutral extreme day yesterday ad hence a move below day low if required for more bearishness
[09:30]   Shai : Opening volumes suggest a non- directional day
[09:30]   Shai : Over to writers
[09:34]   Shai : Thanks Rav: (09:11) Rav :GM….site is ebcoming colorful and great day by day
[09:34]   Shai : Yes Kathir started since fri : (09:06) Kathir :@SHAI we get buy sell levels intra in twitter from today?
[09:35]   Kathir : thanks shai
[09:35]   r m : Now Kathir will be away for longer periods 🙂
[09:36]   Kathir : lol
[09:38]   Navaneeth : 3rd foot print changed?
[09:39]   Shai : That is april to track rollover vols
[09:41]   Shai : 19325 is pdl
[09:42]   Shai : Buy BNF abv 19395, sl 19355 tgt 19435
[09:50]   Navaneeth : call active ?
[09:50]   Rahul G : yup
[09:50]   r m : yes
[09:52]   Shai : could have bought lower also- Footprint did not show new sellers as we reached PDL but we try to be conservative
[09:52]   Rahul G : guys require some help from your side, When I trade with minimum lots i get profit but as I increase my lots there is only loss any advise on this will be very helpful how to manage with more lots
[09:53]   Varun : manage risk, by speculating only 1% of ur capital as stop loss
[09:53]   Varun : whtever be the amount just divide by lots
[09:54]   Varun : it works well as then u trade with free mind and not fear
[09:54]   Rav : when u buy from operator,it becomes loss and when u join with him,it is profit, whatsoever the lots may be
[09:55]   Rahul G : varun can u give me an advise
[09:55]   Rahul G : if I have a capital of 5L for example
[09:55]   Rahul G : so my loss should be 5K only
[09:55]   Varun : ur stop loss should be 5000
[09:55]   Varun : and if in points its 20
[09:55]   Varun : speculate with 250
[09:56]   Rahul G : ooh okay
[09:56]   Varun : ur deccision making will improve multifold
[09:56]   Rahul G : should we keep sl in the system always
[09:56]   Varun : yes
[09:56]   Varun : first know ur stop loss and then put qnty
[09:57]   Rahul G : tht is one thing i do not do
[09:59]   Rahul G : rav, any advice on how to join the operators 🙂
[10:00]   r m : 🙂
[10:01]   Rav : u must know vol price analysis and when vol is moving up and down and mkt i sideways and take lots accordingly
[10:03]   Rav : last 40 min, bnf is being bought by operator
[10:05]   Shai : NF trade long abv 8576 for 80% rule to 8594 POC
[10:05]   Varun : bt shai we opened within value
[10:06]   Varun : isnt 80 5 for open outside value and reverse
[10:06]   Shai : No can be used for move away and to also as profile is balancing
[10:06]   Varun : k
[10:06]   Shai : When in Imbalance use Opens
[10:06]   Varun : means rejection outside vlaue
[10:06]   Varun : imbalnce rejected
[10:07]   Varun : ?
[10:07]   Shai : I meant in 2 way acutions the Markets keep probing extremes of value
[10:07]   Varun : k
[10:08]   Shai : our bias is down below VAL now in NF but entry in value should take it to POC
[10:08]   RK : seller in both contracts
[10:08]   Varun : read an intrsting stat
[10:08]   Varun : 52 5 time we touch ppoc next day
[10:09]   Varun : read 52%
[10:09]   Shai : for NF?
[10:09]   Varun : in general
[10:10]   Shai : we did some stats on our blog for NF some time back
[10:10]   Varun : for poc
[10:10]   Varun : wht wr the results
[10:10]   Varun : like u hve mentioned val by a line
[10:10]   Varun : can we hve hvn and lvn also
[10:11]   Varun : at lvn we can see of to see rejections
[10:11]   Varun : or continuations
[10:11]   Varun : of trend
[10:19]   Rav : max pain at 8600 18500
[10:19]   Shai : Exit BNF longs at 18420
[10:19]   Shai : Not showing impulse upwards
[10:19]   Navaneeth : ok
[10:20]   Navaneeth : Delta n Green line still suggests a buy.
[10:20]   Shai : no really more like rolls happening- Opp in April
[10:21]   Navaneeth : ok
[10:22]   Rav : bnf is LBU in both mar and apr at equal way pricewise and OI wise
[10:26]   Rav : 76 points premium in apr
[10:31]   Navaneeth : Exact target done 🙂
[10:31]   Shai : Buy stop orders triggered
[10:32]   Navaneeth : you mean limit buy?
[10:32]   Shai : yes sl
[10:32]   Navaneeth : ok
[10:32]   Shai : would mean a dip to vwap is a buy
[10:34]   Navaneeth : hmmm
[10:42]   Rav : nf LU in mar ..rollover
[11:06]   Rav : http://screencast.com/t/pRMjOrmIAAX
[11:07]   r m : Thanks Rav
[11:08]   Kathir : @RAV any views for bnf expiry around?
[11:10]   Rav : 18500 max pain. huge rollover with LBU seen i Apri along with LBU in March may induce SC . BN may expire around 18400-18600 due to high beta constituents
[11:10]   Kathir : ok thanks
[11:43]   Varun : rm are still lower vwap bands near 50 in nf?
[11:45]   r m : yes
[11:45]   r m : 8547 is the lower band in NT chart
[11:46]   Varun : now visible here too
[11:46]   Varun : thnks rm
[11:46]   r m : welcome
[11:46]   RK : someone covered huge and not rolled over..
[11:57]   Shai : possible FA at 8543 if we go day high
[11:57]   Varun : much needed one
[11:57]   Shai : could provide momentum to move up
[11:57]   Varun : to end this dull phase
[11:58]   Shai : BNF unfinished auction at 18461
[11:58]   Shai : should visist once again there
[11:58]   Janak : Hypo1 below 18465➜18385➜18220 SL 18580
[11:59]   Shai : yes if we get rejected at 18465 we will come back to 18385
[11:59]   Varun : we came tiil thr
[12:00]   Varun : in last 30 min move
[12:00]   Janak : shai what is ur expiry guess?
[12:00]   Shai : yes
[12:00]   Varun : 80 % still apllicable in nf
[12:00]   Shai : Janak 8580 spot
[12:00]   Varun : and is it on in bnf ?
[12:01]   Janak : oh that is around 8600F
[12:01]   Varun : @shai we had a one lakh plus buyer in 15 min at 48
[12:01]   Varun : but it didnt show in 5 min?
[12:03]   Shai : FP chart is the total Volume at price based on who is more aggresive
[12:03]   Shai : the 5 min chart is only mkt orders
[12:03]   Varun : ok
[12:04]   Varun : so delta below the 5 min is actual trade
[12:04]   Shai : it’s just a different way to look
[12:05]   Shai : for ex 2941075 bids + 3258750 asks in FP chart = total volume
[12:05]   Shai : so all volume is there in FP chart to give us mkt idea
[12:06]   Shai : In FP 5 min chart delta is the pane below
[12:06]   Varun : ya
[12:06]   Shai : the vols are aggressive mkt orders
[12:06]   Rav : 18500 pe writers shifted to 18200pe
[12:23]   Janak : shai short tgts pl in bn/nf
[12:24]   Shai : 18325
[12:24]   Shai : 18155
[12:25]   Janak : nf?
[12:25]   Shai : 18155 is positional
[12:25]   Shai : 8510/ 8480
[12:25]   Janak : intra?
[12:26]   Rav : 18290
[12:33]   Shai : still a roatational profile
[12:33]   Rav : icici sc spoils bnf fall
[12:33]   Shai : break will come when volume srise
[12:34]   Shai : 392725 was last vol- has to be double that
[12:35]   Varun : this 392 vol is of wht ?
[12:36]   Varun : nf or bnf
[12:36]   RK : Mar NF
[12:37]   RK : 12.30 candle
[12:37]   Shai : sellers
[12:38]   Shai : NF that is
[12:38]   Varun : gt it
[12:38]   Varun : still at 296
[12:38]   Varun : long way to go for bands to change
[12:40]   RK : Apr FP shows increase in volumes
[12:42]   Varun : nice pick in april
[12:45]   RK : rigid band
[13:08]   Janak : eu open?
[13:10]   Janak : some fast selling coming here?
[13:16]   r m : http://www.worldtimezone.com/markets24.php
[13:17]   Janak : 🙂 bhai bandar ko sankrit kyoon dikhate ho ::
[13:18]   r m : Pandit banane ke liye 🙂
[13:18]   Janak : uske liye 8500/18325 hi kaafi hei ;
[13:18]   r m : 😀
[13:18]   Janak : what resistance at 8550
[13:26]   Rav : 8530 spot broken
[13:28]   Varun : @shai volume burst or not ?
[13:29]   RK : seems BNF dont want to give up PDL
[13:31]   r m : 81 million volume so far in NF
[13:32]   r m : does not seem too high
[13:37]   Varun : @shai can we have one screen short of nf profile after 1.45 candle
[13:37]   Varun : need to see the tail
[13:39]   r m : this may not be very accurate http://screencast.com/t/0zPikq1h
[13:39]   Varun : i think we hve a 7-8 tpo tail now, good fr a bounce
[13:39]   Varun : yes rm thr is a long tail, if we dnt hve arevisit, we shld rally
[13:40]   r m : ok
[13:41]   Varun : thanks rm
[13:42]   r m : welcome
[13:43]   RK : IBL VWAP combo
[13:43]   Varun : wht relevance rk ?
[13:44]   RK : good resistance and once cleared with volumed good support..
[13:44]   Varun : thanks
[13:45]   RK : Axis running up
[13:49]   Varun : thnks shai
[13:49]   Varun : fr the efforts
[13:49]   Shai : balanced Profile stil
[13:49]   Shai : heavy vols a lows
[13:49]   Shai : Varun 🙂
[13:50]   Janak : yday’s aggressive buyers/sellers missing
[13:50]   Shai : NF can make 1 trip to 8567 again’
[13:50]   Varun : is tht the poc
[13:50]   Janak : any chances of 8500?
[13:50]   Varun : 05 59
[13:50]   Varun : or 59
[13:50]   Shai : 59 poc
[13:50]   Varun : 67 single print resistance
[13:51]   Shai : yes
[13:51]   Shai : just to check selling interest
[13:51]   Janak : mkt is glued to 18400/8500
[13:51]   Janak : 8550
[13:51]   Varun : after many says we havea tail at lows
[13:51]   Varun : it shld rally
[13:51]   Varun : days”
[13:52]   Shai : yes
[13:52]   Shai : we needed that tail to confirm a bottom
[13:52]   Shai : but not yet out
[13:52]   Varun : yup
[13:52]   Varun : vwap
[14:06]   Shai : 8580 F more likely to complete the day today
[14:07]   Shai : that down move may be done today
[14:08]   RK : Shai done for today or for series? 🙂
[14:08]   Shai : RK have learn’t not to trust expiry day or let it go till last hour
[14:08]   RK : We are just 40 points away for our 8473 spot
[14:08]   Janak : shai atleast a touch to 8510?
[14:09]   Shai : that one is a differnt one. This is the move off yesterday
[14:09]   RK : exactly..that’s the lesson learnt in last 3 months
[14:09]   Shai : current auction whicg went up from 8550 and met selling at 8640
[14:10]   Shai : sellers are not pushing the lows like they did at 8640
[14:10]   Shai : Tom is options players day
[14:11]   Shai : that last hor can go anywhere
[14:11]   Shai : hour*
[14:11]   Shai : But as the start of March series showed that last hour has no effect on trend
[14:11]   RK : Trend resumes on 1st day of next series itself
[14:11]   Janak : looks like a rotation betn 450 and 350 shai till 3.30?
[14:12]   Janak : and 8560-20
[14:12]   Shai : Yes janak
[14:12]   Shai : Rotate
[14:12]   RK : Better BNF break high or lows of today..otherwise we will endup with lowest range day of 2015 pointing much volatility tmw
[14:12]   Janak : its an easy short till 350?
[14:13]   Janak : and 8520?
[14:22]   r m : bn hits previous vwap
[14:24]   Varun : rm tht tail worked 😉
[14:24]   Varun : thanks
[14:25]   Janak : if bn enters back into IB?
[14:25]   Shai : yes then short ‘
[14:25]   Shai : 18407/ 18385 tgt
[14:25]   Shai : sl day high
[14:26]   r m : @Varunt, tail wagged the dog 😀
[14:26]   Shai : 8567- (13:50) Shai :NF can make 1 trip to 8567 again’
[14:26]   Shai : if 8546 holds now can close day at 8580 F
[14:27]   Shai : then it is neutral into expiry and can swing 100 points in last hour tom also
[14:30]   Shai : BNF 18460 is a big number for close today
[14:30]   Janak : it will surely close below that?
[14:30]   Shai : abv this 18460 we can go tap the FA at 18610 at tom open
[14:31]   Janak : OTF sellers shd appear now
[14:31]   Shai : abv 18610 bears lose some momentum
[14:31]   Vivek : @shai were there huge buyers below 8530 or wec can expect spike down to 8500
[14:31]   Shai : Vivel no uge buyers- but lack of supply
[14:31]   Shai : Vivek*
[14:32]   Vivek : ok
[14:32]   Janak : vivek i m with the spike theory but shai has to approve 🙂
[14:33]   Shai : Janak break 8546 – (14:26) Shai :if 8546 holds now can close day at 8580 F
[14:34]   Janak : day/week/month trend is down so a spike below 8546 has more chances?
[14:35]   Janak : only this is an operator- play here – bit seller is missing
[14:35]   Janak : big
[14:35]   r m : @Janak, for that 8500PE writers have to give up
[14:36]   Janak : give me their nos. 🙂
[14:36]   r m : Try thru Rav 😀
[14:37]   Janak : 8546 aa gaya!
[14:38]   r m : @Janak, looks like that 31825 pound hammer in 14:25 bar belonged to you 🙂
[14:38]   Rav : if 8530 spot breaks T 8495 8475 8457 nf
[14:38]   Rav : 8600CE HUGE WRITING ON
[14:38]   r m : Thanks Rav
[14:38]   Vivek : @janak looks like going to break 8546 🙂
[14:39]   Janak : we need to see shai’s sell-order only then it wil break
[14:40]   Rav : 760POINTS PREMIUM
[14:40]   Rav : 76
[14:48]   Rav : 316 spike
[14:50]   Janak : that spike shd be revisited?
[14:50]   Janak : 316
[14:50]   Janak : 316
[14:51]   Janak : is it called anamoly?
[14:51]   Shai : buying tail is gone in NF
[14:51]   Rav : operator searching for sl
[14:52]   Shai : Not good for bulls below 8547 again
[15:00]   Shai : BNF below 18338 no vol traded
[15:02]   Shai : 8549
[15:02]   Janak : shai that 316 can be visited?
[15:02]   Janak : to fill up the vol
[15:02]   Shai : possible
[15:04]   Rav : bnf LU here
[15:08]   Janak : yep – 316 coming
[15:08]   Janak : almost there
[15:10]   Kathir : @amit what happened to NTPC 7 down from highs?
[15:11]   Kathir : @RM at last janak got his bnf levels
[15:12]   Janak : jahan hum khade ho jaate hei…..
[15:12]   r m : @Kathir, Janak must have rang up operators 🙂
[15:12]   Janak : bn wahin pe aa jati hei 😉
[15:12]   Kris : Right friends, time to leave! Have a great evening!
[15:12]   r m : Bye Kris, have a great evening 🙂
[15:12]   Kathir : oh is it 🙂
[15:13]   Kris : no Kathir – I am leaving a bit early that is it.
[15:13]   r m : @Kris, even M K Gandhi could not have kept such “Maun Vrata” 😀
[15:14]   Kris : nothing RM – just was watching charts, our Janak’s mind boggling predictions – and – just time flew.
[15:14]   r m : 🙂
[15:15]   Kathir : @kris bye
[15:15]   Kris : Bye Kathir – only interesting thing to see is – if tomorrow 8500PE writers will be tested
[15:15]   Kris : Otherwise, will it be peace treaty signed with Writers taking all the bags home!
[15:16]   Kathir : ok let us see any lotterry is there tomrw
[15:16]   r m : @Kathir, I think Amit is not here today
[15:16]   Kathir : oh ok..he is NTPC guy
[15:18]   Shai : closing at lows again
[15:18]   Shai : MO should be down again
[15:18]   Shai : One moe day for the bulls to defend
[15:19]   Shai : a close at lows tom is the best time to buy April calls for MO to unleash
[15:19]   r m : MO steady at -66
[15:20]   Kathir : @shai whats your actuall trgt for this run down in NF . 8510 or more?
[15:21]   Kathir : @RM unitech joined aus team 🙂
[15:21]   r m : 😀
[15:21]   Shai : 8467 spot
[15:22]   Rav : SHORTS are rolled with 77 and 190 points premium
[15:22]   Kathir : so another 50 down from here.thanks shai
[15:22]   r m : @Kathir, good thing is that it can’t go below zero (Unitech) 🙂
[15:22]   Kathir : lol
[15:22]   Shai : yes risk reward is favoring longs but- one trip to 8750 spot again
[15:23]   Kathir : may be tomorrow it may close there around 8467
[15:23]   Kathir : for fresh longs to get into april
[15:24]   Kathir : and if RM can bring down his MO a bit more
[15:24]   Rav : 18200put and 8450pe may be the TARGET for CE writers
[15:24]   Kathir : @rav any change in max pain today
[15:28]   Rav : same 8500 18500
[15:28]   Shai : BNF is the one to watch tom
[15:28]   Kathir : ok thanks..tomrw need your help to find some lotteries 🙂
[15:29]   Shai : can go to 18135
[15:29]   Sachith : bye all
[15:29]   Kathir : will put 18200 pe writers in trouble
[15:29]   Shai : at one point BNF was hustling bulls at 18460 but bears attacked
[15:30]   r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great evening 🙂
[15:30]   Shai : Bye all
[15:30]   Shai : Have a nice evening
[15:30]   RK : Thanks and bye all
[15:31]   Kathir : thanks and bye all
[15:31]   Porus : Bye all