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Room Name: Vtrender
Date and Time: October 30, 2015 09:05:55

[09:08]   Shai : (08:52) r m:http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-30th-oct-2/
(08:52) r m:http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-and-notes-291015/
(08:52) r m:Nifty NOV Future levels | KRA 8111 | Hypo1 above 8165➜8192➜8262 SL 8125 | Hypo2 below 8111➜8086➜8055 SL 8146
(08:52) r m:Banknifty NOV Future levels | KRA 17050 | Hypo1 above 17396➜17486➜17716 SL 17290 | Hypo2 below 17222➜17133➜17050 SL 17315

[10:17]   Shai : (10:17) Shai :Buy NF 8150 sl of 8120 tgt 8177/ 8207

[10:32]   Shai : (10:32) Shai :Part book NF 8168 – move sl to 8148 on rest

[10:51]   Shai : (10:51) Shai :Movesl to 8163 for the balance position in NF

[11:01]   Shai : (11:01) Shai :Sell BNF 18440 sl of 18490 tgt 18390/ 18360

[11:04]   Shai : (11:03) Shai :Errata- (11:01) Shai :Sell BNF 17440 sl of 17490 tgt 17390/ 17360

[11:42]   Shai : (11:42) Shai :Book part BNF 17410 bring sl to 17440 on rest

[12:51]   Shai : Sell NF below 8140 sl of 8160 tgt 8124/ 8110

[13:19]   Shai : t1 got done in NF – exit the balance in NF

[13:49]   Shai : (13:49) Shai :add to 8300 ce positional at 68 now

[14:45]   Shai : (14:44) Shai :Exit 8300 ce- Sell NF 8086- 8090 sl of 8115 tgt 8062

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Room Name: Vtrender
Date and Time: October 30, 2015 09:05:55

[08:49]   Anay : GM All
[08:52]   r m : Good Morning folks!
[08:52]   r m : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-30th-oct-2/
[08:52]   r m : http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-and-notes-291015/
[08:52]   r m : http://vtrender.com/consolidated-orderflow-291015/
[08:52]   r m : Nifty NOV Future levels | KRA 8111 | Hypo1 above 8165➜8192➜8262 SL 8125 | Hypo2 below 8111➜8086➜8055 SL 8146
[08:52]   Porus : GM RM and all
[08:52]   r m : Banknifty NOV Future levels | KRA 17050 | Hypo1 above 17396➜17486➜17716 SL 17290 | Hypo2 below 17222➜17133➜17050 SL 17315
[08:53]   r m : Hi Porus
[08:53]   Vaibhav : GM guys
[09:06]   Mohit : GM everyone
[09:07]   Vikkas : Gdmrng all
[09:07]   Vikkas : Hi RM
[09:07]   Shai : GM all
[09:07]   r m : Hi Vikkas
[09:08]   Ashish : GM all
[09:11]   Tejpreet : GM All.
[09:14]   Vikkas : the ornage line in 30 mins abv the delta ..what is it ?
[09:14]   Vikkas : orange
[09:15]   r m : cumulative volume for the day
[09:15]   Vikkas : thanx rm
[09:15]   r m : welcome
[09:16]   r m : blue bars in that volume pane are 5 day median volume upto that time
[09:17]   Vikkas : brilliant ..many changes in the room since i left
[09:17]   r m : yeah, Shai’s room is ever changing 🙂
[09:17]   Vikkas : 🙂
[09:17]   Santosh : GM all
[09:18]   Kathir : GM Shai RM al friends
[09:18]   Ashish : 17390 done Shai 🙂
[09:19]   r m : Hi Kathir 🙂
[09:20]   R Goel : rm the green line in the IB in the profile chart
[09:21]   Shai : yeah the BN last hour move was purely expiry play
[09:21]   Shai : BNF atvah after a long time
[09:21]   r m : @RG, those are projected IB extns, they will keep changing till IB is finalized at 10:15
[09:22]   R Goel : thanks rm
[09:22]   r m : welcome
[09:22]   Mayur : GM all
[09:22]   Ashish : Ok, Shai..
[09:23]   RK : GM Shai,RM and all
[09:23]   r m : Hi RK
[09:23]   r m : @Vikkas – something like black and white family photos 🙂 http://tinyurl.com/pfuwwpa
[09:24]   Janak : shai hypo active in bn?
[09:24]   Janak : 486 tgt
[09:24]   Vikkas : @RM whats that ..the old room..is it ?
[09:25]   Shai : yes Janak hypo active
[09:25]   Shai : NF also attempting 80% here
[09:25]   r m : @Vikkas, yes, back in 2010 🙂
[09:26]   Vikkas : woah..whatts change
[09:26]   Vikkas : *whatta
[09:27]   r m : at that time even QT seemed revolutionary when everybody traded emas and used amibroker 🙂
[09:27]   Shai : buyers are missing in BNF
[09:27]   Vikkas : haha RM
[09:30]   Shai : early volumes are not big and not symbolic of a drive open
[09:31]   Shai : these buyers maintain contrl only till vwap is protected
[09:32]   Sam : GM everyone
[09:32]   Janak : can buy nf with sl of 8120?
[09:33]   Sam : big difference in bnf bid/ask rate
[09:33]   Sam : stable now
[09:34]   Shai : Janak not here
[09:34]   Janak : as bn hypo active it will pull nf up?
[09:35]   Janak : atleast it will attempt 8165 – that hypo activate level -0 so easy 15 pts form here – risky though
[09:36]   Shai : ok for 15
[09:36]   Shai : 8165 is the trigger on day for upsides
[09:36]   Sankar : GM Shai, RM and everyone.
[09:38]   Shai : one seller neutralised at 8150
[09:38]   r m : Hi Sankar
[09:39]   r m : @Sankar, that 8130 is still hanging around only differnce is now it is NOV Future 😀
[09:39]   Sankar : :-D.
[09:40]   Kathir : @Sankar now all in the hands of DD challengers
[09:41]   Sankar : Lets hope we get to the usual business. KRA at bottom and market stays up.. or KRA at top and market stays down. last series, entire upmove from 8150 to 8300+, KRA was on top side.
[09:41]   Sankar : 🙂
[09:42]   Mayur : shai can we add to existing 8300ce
[09:42]   Sankar : Kathir, hope it moves. new series, new lots.. lot of *new*. best wishes for new money also 🙂
[09:42]   Varun : shai whts the green in profile ?
[09:42]   Kathir : yeah hoping for new volumes 🙂
[09:43]   Sankar : 🙂
[09:43]   Shai : Mayur not yet, we will do an add later
[09:43]   Mayur : okie. thx.
[09:44]   Shai : Varun range extensions of IB
[09:44]   Kathir : @RM yest FII buyers and DII sellers?
[09:45]   Kathir : @Shai SL for that 8300 cce
[09:45]   Varun : so as to check wher 2ib and 3 ib finish ?
[09:46]   Shai : yes
[09:46]   Augustin : @Shai – Can go long in NF near KRA?
[09:46]   r m : @Kathir, expiry day buying/selling is often booking out of existing shorts and longs
[09:47]   r m : but change of lot size has made it difficult to know exact position
[09:47]   Shai : Yes Augustin
[09:47]   Augustin : Ok
[09:47]   Kathir : @rm ok
[09:47]   Shai : Possibility of a test of the prev settlemnt closing price s always there on 1st day , hence not adding to the 8300 ce here
[09:48]   Shai : BNF moving abv vah will be a sign for bulls as it wa sthe first to fall
[09:49]   Shai : also taking out the singles abv 17440 is a positive
[09:50]   Shai : Kathir sl is 51 on CE
[09:50]   Kathir : ok thanks
[09:51]   Janak : what is the open trade shai?
[09:51]   Janak : not there in the announcement
[09:52]   r m : none so far Janak
[09:52]   Varun : shai do u have any stat as to what is the avd range of nifty % terms
[09:52]   Varun : ?
[09:54]   RK : Varun Nift spot avg of 2015 is 105.20
[09:55]   RK : oct is 74 🙂
[09:55]   Varun : 105 on daily basis ?
[09:55]   RK : Yes Varun daily avg
[09:56]   Varun : ok i was close i wa thinking 80/100
[09:56]   Sam : 105 is daily range?
[09:56]   Varun : so we can actually cut off some loss trades by not playing extensions after 80/90 point move
[09:57]   Varun : the prob of a winner woujld be very less
[09:57]   r m : yes, except on rabid trend days 🙂
[09:57]   RK : Yes if you are sure thats not a trend day 🙂
[09:57]   Varun : tht also would give reverse to vwap after 80/100
[09:57]   Varun : like wait for a dip after 80-100
[09:57]   RK : I do that with stocks..when you reach certain level from other boundary, try to exit instead waiting for golden egg to grow further 🙂
[09:57]   Sam : and how much for bn spot, RK?
[09:58]   RK : BNS 334
[09:58]   Sam : thanks RK
[09:58]   RK : Welcome
[09:59]   Sam : pretty good range looking at history
[10:04]   Vikkas : my dabbawala just called saying kuch toh trade lelo ..
[10:04]   Vikkas : he says not a single trade since 45 mins
[10:04]   RK : BNF has to take a call now VAH or POC which to break
[10:07]   Bhagya : nifty trading below yesterday VAL and unable to even test Wap OR poc
[10:07]   Bhagya : Postionally are we so weak….
[10:13]   RK : Kathir IB done..we are in middle of the IB..which side you want it to extend? 🙂
[10:14]   Kathir : hoding 8300 ce 🙂 and IB break anysie wl ive 50 pointsre trade since today first day 🙂
[10:14]   Kathir : 50 to 80
[10:15]   Shai : Varun had some previous stats will update for BN as well for 2015 this weekend
[10:16]   RK : cool
[10:16]   Varun : cool
[10:17]   Shai : Buy NF 8150 sl of 8120 tgt 8177/ 8207
[10:17]   Varun : wht should we take as ref for composite vwap now
[10:17]   Shai : 8111 spot
[10:17]   Shai : oct vwap
[10:22]   RK : RM just saw that 2010 chart..what an evolvement at Vtrender..Awesome Shai :)..and within a Year I can tell atleast 10 changes in the room..learning and improvement never ends in this room 🙂
[10:22]   r m : 🙂
[10:22]   Kathir : trueRK
[10:23]   Shai : Thanks RK
[10:23]   r m : @RK, that chart itself was PnF fused with Value Areas!
[10:24]   Shai : Lots of contribution for Varun, your self , RM and so many others- keep sharing your thoughts- credit is all yours
[10:24]   RK : Yeah RM..I recall those days where we discuss that these guys at Vtrender trying something new 🙂
[10:24]   r m : 🙂
[10:26]   Varun : 🙂
[10:27]   Varun : discussed something with shai
[10:27]   Varun : if we get tht data, it would eb one of the first
[10:27]   RK : Yeah VArun brought in many 🙂
[10:28]   Varun : its tick data adv/dec of nifty
[10:29]   Varun : means of all adv/dec
[10:29]   Sam : earlier more trading was on vah-val and candle vol. but we hv evolved a lot since start.
[10:29]   Sam : esp. my pink/green favourite remains the same 🙂
[10:29]   RK : you mean live update of stocks adv/dec ?
[10:30]   Varun : but in collective form
[10:30]   RK : Yep got it
[10:30]   Varun : so when we rise but tht tick data doesnt, means a fake move could eb thr
[10:31]   r m : @Varun, that will be super – heard of NYSE ticks
[10:31]   r m : but thought it will never come here 🙂
[10:31]   Hari : @shai, IB break?
[10:31]   Varun : shai working on it, he has requested
[10:31]   Varun : nse/esignal
[10:31]   RK : happens many times..major stocks freze at small range when such fake moves happen using only few stocks
[10:31]   Varun : lets see
[10:31]   r m : Thanks Varun, Shai
[10:32]   Shai : Part book NF 8168 – move sl to 8148 on rest
[10:37]   RK : NSe should consider atleast now to change ticks from 5 paisa to 25 paisa for NF and BNF
[10:38]   Shai : oh yes
[10:38]   Shai : 0.05 is useless
[10:38]   Rahul P : 80% rule active on nf, right ???
[10:38]   Shai : Yes Rahul
[10:39]   RK : Kathir’s IB trade on roll 🙂
[10:39]   Janak : good calls shai
[10:39]   Janak : 486 in bnf hit – hypo 1
[10:39]   r m : @RK, yes, only then uptick/downtick based delta will give accurate info
[10:39]   Shai : BNF may attempt 17530
[10:39]   Janak : nf also good call
[10:39]   Janak : thanks a lot
[10:40]   RK : NF at POC
[10:40]   r m : @RK, Kathir has promised 100 points, will sure him if we get less than 99 🙂
[10:40]   r m : **sue
[10:41]   RK : lol like many times I wanted to sue Shai for missing 10-20 points in weekly levels 🙂
[10:41]   r m : lol
[10:41]   Kathir : 🙂 99 % of the times it gave 100 + and in fact continued after that
[10:41]   Kathir : lol RK
[10:41]   r m : great Kathir, now I know why you come only twice a month to the room, on and after expiry 🙂
[10:42]   RK : Kathir being the range of these days are small, we will aim less now..
[10:42]   Kathir : 🙂 lol RM
[10:43]   r m : @RK, but 8262 is more than 100 na! 🙂
[10:45]   RK : 🙂
[10:50]   Shai : yesterday’s wave of sellers is here abv 8180
[10:51]   Shai : Move sl to 8163 for the balance position in NF
[10:52]   Kathir : 8300 ce shai move Sl up?
[10:52]   Mayur : bnf vols dropping here ? not many greens ?
[10:56]   Shai : Yes BNF not much abv IBH
[10:56]   Mayur : a trip to IBL in the offing ?
[10:57]   Shai : bank tip to vwap is possible not yet to IBL
[10:57]   Shai : trip*
[10:58]   Mayur : ok
[10:58]   Kiran : Shai , can u pl change the colour of numbers from dull RED to bright / light RED sometimes diff to read on gray.
[10:59]   Shai : on 5 mns?
[10:59]   Kiran : yes Shai
[11:00]   Kiran : 8180 seller is diff to read.
[11:00]   RK : Yes,..its in pink I think now..so need to be darkened
[11:00]   Mayur : BN spot has missed crossing yest high by 1 pt.
[11:00]   Shai : ok noted- can’t do it now as it requires restart- but will do it at close
[11:01]   RK : thanks
[11:01]   Kiran : thanks.
[11:01]   Shai : Sell BNF 18440 sl of 18490 tgt 18390/ 18360
[11:01]   Janak : tsl hit in nf
[11:02]   Shai : NF out
[11:02]   Uttam : 17440 😉
[11:03]   Shai : 8180 new seller confirms with old seller yesterday
[11:03]   Shai : Errata- (11:01) Shai :Sell BNF 17440 sl of 17490 tgt 17390/ 17360
[11:03]   Mayur : shouldn’t we exit 8300ce then. can lead to break of spot 8080 .
[11:03]   Shai : Thanks Uttam
[11:04]   Uttam : 🙂
[11:09]   Shai : can exit the 8300 ce – but buy again near close
[11:09]   Shai : or abv 8175 F
[11:10]   Uttam : exit CE is for all of us Shai?
[11:12]   Shai : I meant it can be traded , but if I update as alert it can confuse on the board
[11:13]   Shai : but yes positionals can and ought to be traded also if you can intra
[11:13]   Shai : the other option is to enter sl and tgt and forget about it
[11:13]   Uttam : yep for positionals i think that is better
[11:14]   Rahul P : nf vwap test and reversal
[11:14]   Rahul P : looks good for a long inning
[11:15]   Shai : take out 8180 and can sail through to 8236/8260 now
[11:25]   Kiran : seems BNF will pull NF down.
[11:27]   Hari : @shai, is the IB break failing
[11:30]   Shai : Not yet in NF , vwap supp
[11:30]   Shai : also val there
[11:42]   Shai : Book part BNF 17410 bring sl to 17440 on rest
[11:43]   Shai : bear in mind we are making a bit more on the faster partbookings even if the trade is giving us 20 net in NF and 30 here
[11:44]   Mayur : shai, bnf has traded below vwap. so can we call it a valid break or should it move below the yellow line.
[11:45]   Shai : We took the trade for the reverse 80 % but it is easily an IB setup also
[11:45]   Shai : yeah for now no buying abv VAH/ IBH in BNF
[11:45]   Mayur : ok. thx.
[11:53]   Mayur : shai, do we have OTF’s here in BNF?
[11:56]   Shai : yes OTF is there BNF
[11:56]   Shai : even NF
[11:56]   Shai : though not in huge numbers
[11:56]   Ashish : Shai, positionally can go long in Banknifty here?
[11:57]   Shai : Ashish conservative long is abv 17490 where it can move 200 plus easily
[11:57]   Shai : here sl is 17310 qt-2
[11:58]   Kathir : @shai NF above 8210 is 8300 possible easily?
[11:59]   Ashish : Thanks Shai.. Could you please share Banknifty spot monthly TPO chart ?
[11:59]   Tejpreet : NF volumes buzzing now.
[11:59]   Ashish : buyer @ top in NF
[11:59]   Shai : very poor structure in BNF abv current highs/ y’day singles- can tgt that vpoc 17779: http://vtrender.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/BNF_compo19.png
[12:01]   RK : Ashish thats huge trap
[12:01]   RK : break vwap then it will be bad for him
[12:01]   Shai : NF- http://vtrender.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Nf_compo120.png
[12:01]   Ashish : Yes RK.
[12:02]   Shai : BNF flat now
[12:04]   Kathir : @RK but reds becoming while is it so far?
[12:04]   Kathir : white
[12:05]   RK : Yes Kathir..if he gets company then zoom
[12:05]   Kathir : from 8180 to 8200 only reds in yest daily
[12:05]   Ashish : some more greens coming now
[12:05]   Kathir : it it is crossed then 50 points very easy in nf Shai?
[12:08]   Kathir : @RK Nf has to go to 8220 atleast to keep up my promise to RM 🙂
[12:08]   Kathir : 8240 most preffered
[12:10]   RK : 30 mins got good greens after that vwap test
[12:17]   Ashish : Shai, Qt values are updated?
[12:18]   Hari : @Shai, all upmoves are getting sold into aggressively?
[12:18]   RK : Ashish only after end of week
[12:19]   Ashish : Thanks Rk
[12:19]   Kathir : @RK need some clarification on QT let me call you sometime sunday..am going to guruvayoor temple now 🙂
[12:20]   RK : sure..
[12:20]   Kathir : I will pray that NF goes to 8900 this month 🙂
[12:21]   RK : looks like 81k liquidated
[12:21]   Ashish : looser 81000:(
[12:22]   Rahul P : don’t see this print …where is this ?
[12:23]   Rahul P : nf ?
[12:23]   RK : Rahul 5min 11.55 candle top
[12:23]   Rahul P : ohh, yes
[12:23]   Kathir : ALSO THERE IN 30 MINS PREVIOUS CANDLE
[12:24]   RK : and all reds in next 30 min could be him
[12:24]   Rahul P : possible
[12:27]   r m : Guys that OCT series Nifty 50 stocks VWAP is uploaded in Document’s folder
[12:29]   RK : Yeah RM..thanks
[12:31]   Kathir : @RK now I feel the impact of lot size..axis 1000 afraid of taking positions 🙂
[12:31]   Mayur : thx man
[12:32]   RK : 🙂
[12:32]   RK : Kathir look at Relcap..just watching it moving up doing nothing 🙂
[12:32]   r m : 🙂
[12:33]   Kathir : forced to do options 🙂
[12:35]   Kathir : @RM thanks for the file update sir
[12:35]   Mayur : shai, a visit by BNF to IBL is in order. not sustaining at highs.
[12:36]   r m : @Kathir, welcome sir 🙂
[12:40]   Hari : what is IBL in BNF, can’t see
[12:41]   Shai : IBL 17310
[12:41]   Shai : can see it in profile chart on right
[12:42]   Shai : Mayur 17390 is the level it held yesterday all day till that expiry move , weakness to 310 only if it breaks
[12:43]   Mayur : okie. thx.
[12:46]   Rahul P : someone got superactive below vwap of nf
[12:47]   Uttam : we also have single prints in BNF today from 310 to 370
[12:47]   Shai : reds are piling up
[12:48]   Uttam : big seller 73575?
[12:48]   Uttam : but in white so it could be longs liquidating?
[12:49]   Uttam : volume spike & all on white except for that 35550 seller in red @ top of this 5 min bar
[12:50]   Shai : Sell NF below 8140 sl of 8160 tgt 8124/ 8110
[12:54]   Rahul P : itc dragging the index big time
[12:55]   Kathir : Bye all ..see you monday
[12:56]   Vikkas : bye kathir..happy weekend
[12:56]   r m : Bye Kathir 🙂
[12:56]   Janak : icici may drive bnf to 17500 shai?
[13:03]   Rahul P : reds getting neutralised….cover shorts ???
[13:03]   Vikkas : bnf just made a hammer on 30 mins
[13:04]   RK : be stick to trades till SL goes..looks like we are in for some wild swing
[13:05]   RK : check vol orange line..
[13:06]   Rahul P : T1 done….seems otf got a wind of this
[13:07]   r m : @RK, that line has its own story, out of last 5 days, at least three days volumes were absent in NOV series, hence today’s volume is constantly above 5 day’s average
[13:07]   Ashish : big buyer here in NF?
[13:07]   RK : true RM
[13:07]   Kiran : the volume of Nov contract was very less in last 5 days, hence the volume of today will be high. RK.
[13:07]   Rahul P : super big hain…..aka otf
[13:07]   Uttam : 139125
[13:19]   Varun : shai spot vwap was 8086
[13:19]   Varun : and we did 8092 today in spot
[13:19]   Shai : exit the Balance NF
[13:19]   Varun : ??
[13:20]   Shai : could not update 8124
[13:20]   Varun : wasnt the fr futre
[13:20]   Shai : 8111 is the vwap after yesterday close for oct
[13:21]   Varun : ok thanks
[13:22]   Shai : I’m around- be back in a few mins at desk
[13:24]   Sandeep : bnf dancing like anything
[13:24]   RK : seems only a trailer to me 🙂
[13:25]   Ashish : icici out
[13:28]   RK : too much vwap swipes today in BNF
[13:33]   Uttam : expiry not yet over it looks like 😉
[13:34]   Ashish : Rk, GF says we will go high today
[13:35]   Vikkas : anay ur charts are circulating now on whatsapp grp
[13:37]   RK : Ashish two side fight..one will give up and other one till take it and runaway..all set for action..lets see 🙂
[13:38]   Mayur : IF nF gives up 8080. BNF will break IBL.
[13:38]   Ashish : Let’s see RK
[13:39]   Anay : @Vikkas 8k PE chart?
[13:39]   Vikkas : yup
[13:39]   Anay : hehe ok
[13:39]   Vikkas : start putting ur name brotha
[13:40]   Anay : ok 🙂
[13:42]   Shai : 8124 is a ver big buyer
[13:42]   Shai : restested
[13:43]   Shai : profie is a neutral day so far
[13:43]   Shai : all to play for
[13:43]   Shai : NF only- neutral
[13:43]   Janak : shai day can end at 8180/17550?
[13:44]   Shai : buy conf is abv 8144 sl of 8122 Janak
[13:44]   Shai : if you don’t need conf then sl of day lw or 8222 🙂
[13:45]   Shai : 8122
[13:45]   Shai : 8111**
[13:48]   Janak : icici reults out?
[13:48]   Janak : that beast can easily give 100 up in bn
[13:49]   Shai : add to 8300 ce positional at 68 now
[13:49]   Uttam : cool Shai
[13:49]   Shai : may do 84 again intra
[13:49]   Shai : other tgts remain the same
[13:53]   Uttam : SL 51 for the ce right Shai
[13:54]   Janak : result is in line nothing disappointing in icici
[13:54]   Shai : we will keep sl at 46 on the 8300 ce – may need more time
[13:54]   Uttam : okies
[13:55]   Shai : 8180/ 8124 struggle between buyers and sellers – more likely a close at vwap
[13:55]   Shai : profile is balanced again
[13:55]   Shai : BNF also inside
[13:56]   Shai : unless we get a big spike in closing mins lower we have confirmation from charts that the sell off from monday is getting over
[14:07]   RK : Shai 80 paisa missed..pls do the needful 🙂
[14:08]   r m : 🙂
[14:09]   Mayur : shai, these volume spikes at lows with a red delta r new sellers ???
[14:10]   Mayur : in BNF
[14:10]   Mayur : same nifty has spikes with green delta. so r they new buyers ?
[14:25]   Sandeep69 : all quiet here
[14:26]   r m : yep, all quiet on bull front 🙂
[14:30]   RK : Gates opened..all those buyers under water
[14:31]   Sandeep69 : shai where are we heading ?
[14:31]   Janak : shai exit 8300 ce?
[14:31]   Sandeep69 : sub 8000 ?
[14:31]   r m : 8086 – 8055 as per hypo
[14:31]   Sandeep69 : okay, rm always has the answers ready
[14:32]   RK : BNf low Hypo trigger point
[14:35]   Kiran : 13:54 Shai : we will keep sl at 46 on the 8300 ce – may need more time
[14:35]   Himanshu null : Shai 83 ce sl revised??
[14:36]   Kiran : the increased lot size giving little pain?
[14:37]   Kiran : yday BNF low 179 today 170
[14:37]   Kiran : sorry BNS
[14:41]   Kiran : Janak ur 220 came again.
[14:41]   Kiran : BNF
[14:43]   Janak : bn day high is 488 and i cant believe i got a book there at 486 – shai’s hypo level
[14:43]   r m : wow!
[14:44]   RK : Janak I still hold that 440 short 🙂
[14:44]   r m : Hoarder!
[14:44]   RK : apart from routine positional short 🙂
[14:44]   Shai : Exit 8300 ce- Sell NF 8086- 8090 sl of 8115 tgt 8062
[14:48]   Mayur : exited mine
[14:49]   Uttam : didn’t even get a chance to enter NF short @ 8085
[14:49]   Varun : shai cn u show daily vol candle
[14:50]   Varun : for past 6 days
[14:50]   Porus : Shai, when does the nf positional view change to short?
[14:50]   Varun : today could be the climax thrust
[14:51]   Porus : Varun, will that create a bottom or change the trend?
[14:52]   Varun : more like a flushout after 4-5 days of down move
[14:53]   Varun : but its on daily,we need to balcne forst at lows, re test supply and then upmove starts
[14:53]   Varun : more like 3-4 days
[14:53]   Porus : ok
[14:57]   Shai : Porus 8055 is the OTF buyer from 05/10 and last sl for the bull
[14:58]   Porus : ok, ty
[14:58]   Shai : we were looking for a balance between 8124- 8180 but that has not materailsised
[14:58]   Shai : auction is neutral extreme
[14:59]   RK : RBI day vwap which started this entire move up is 17183 in BNS..
[14:59]   RK : NS is way below 7830
[14:59]   Kiran : shai BNS is still holding ? any view ?
[15:00]   Kiran : as of yesterday.
[15:01]   Porus : Thanks RK
[15:02]   Shai : 17177 supp in BNF
[15:02]   Vikkas : NF making a hammer on 30 mins at the lows
[15:02]   Vikkas : this cud be it
[15:06]   RK : BNF 🙂
[15:06]   Rahul P : vwap close possilbe on nf ??
[15:06]   Rahul P : 25 mins to go
[15:08]   Shai : Buyers have come now in 8300 ce again
[15:08]   Shai : 🙁
[15:08]   Uttam : NF shorts to be carried if SL doesn’t go Shai?
[15:08]   Rahul P : vwap close possible on nf ?
[15:09]   RK : such spikes on Friday against trend is very dangerous
[15:09]   Varun : as in?
[15:09]   RK : I mean contra harsh moves
[15:09]   Varun : rk ?>
[15:09]   Varun : fail on monday ?
[15:10]   RK : Varun 21st Aug we had similar rise in close
[15:10]   Shai : No Rahul looks diff
[15:10]   Shai : Uttam missed exit by 4 points
[15:10]   Shai : Not a carry
[15:10]   Uttam : so exit EOD?
[15:11]   Shai : exit here the short
[15:11]   Uttam : ok
[15:11]   RK : Varun logically if shorts in system gets cleared, fall could be free as no one there to cover shorts..just an observation
[15:12]   Mayur : can v add 8300 ce again ?
[15:13]   Uttam : so bad start to Nov series 🙁 thought this month will be different
[15:14]   Shai : No Mayur we will look at it Mon
[15:14]   Mayur : oki. thx.
[15:15]   Uttam : positional call again hit SL
[15:15]   Shai : yup that 8300 ce is a disappointment
[15:16]   Uttam : had bet big on that plus added today again so double hit 🙁
[15:17]   Vikkas : @uttam in my personal expeirence i have noticed options trades work best post 2 weeks of the new expiry ..i may be wrong ..just my observation
[15:18]   Mohit : novice in terms of MP & order flow. but we need to see the context also. if we hv added d positional 8300 ce, why to panic so early..we hv time on our side plus this downmove is 5 day old.
[15:19]   Mohit : plus other signal like 8155 big buyer, 8050 spot break out level.
[15:20]   Janak : 8300ce went close to stopless 48 and bounced 🙁
[15:20]   Anay : @Shai spot closing below Oct vwap is bearish?
[15:20]   Anay : or need to wait out and see on Monday?
[15:20]   Shai : Monday wait out needed
[15:21]   Anay : ok thanks
[15:21]   Shai : but weekly close is bad
[15:21]   Mayur : @mohit, options if bought, then time is never on our side.
[15:22]   Porus : Perhaps in preparation for Bihar election results. When are they? 🙂
[15:22]   Anay : BNF is the only hope for bulls right now 🙂
[15:24]   Shai : @ Mohit suggested an exit cos weekly close is not good for NF. we may relook at the same strike again Mon
[15:28]   Naresh : Did some one just hugely dumped 8100 CE
[15:29]   Mayur : bye all. thx. shai.
[15:30]   Tejpreet : Bye All
[15:30]   Vikkas : bye all ..happy weekend to everybody..
[15:30]   Sandeep69 : bye
[15:30]   Shai : Bye all
[15:30]   Shai : Have a nice weekend
[15:31]   Porus : bye all
[15:31]   Anay : bye all
[15:31]   Uttam : See you all, have a good weekend 🙂
[15:31]   r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great weekend 🙂
[15:31]   Moses : Bye All
[15:32]   Mohit : bye everyone. have a nice weekend
[15:33]   Kiran : shai
[15:34]   Kiran : can u please change the Red colour.

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Room Name: Vtrender
Date and Time: October 30, 2015 09:05:55

[09:08]   Ashish : Shai, USDINR above 65.49 now. What will be the next resistance?
[09:17]   Shai : 65.70 intra and 65.90 is the big one
[09:18]   Ashish : Thanks shai 🙂
[09:26]   Gaurav : MARUTI looking a buy here Shai?
[09:28]   Vikkas : DR has gone mad
[09:28]   Shai : maruti 4370 is a supp
[09:28]   Vikkas : whats the next supply zone in drreddy shai ?
[09:32]   Kathir : @shai dishtv support
[09:32]   Kathir : positional
[09:32]   Shai : 4366/ 4471 in Dr
[09:32]   Shai : dish 105 supp
[09:32]   Kathir : ok thanks
[09:33]   Vikkas : thanx shai
[09:37]   R Goel : shai view n hexaware
[09:46]   Ashish : Shai, Lupin can target 2000 from here?
[09:53]   Shai : hexaware wekening but minor supp at 242 and 237
[09:54]   R Goel : thanks shai
[09:55]   Shai : lupin has held supp but want to see it move abv 1936 then can go abck to 1996
[09:56]   Kathir : even yest spot high was 1935
[09:58]   Uttam : Shai view on ICICI, has opened strong today? What time are the results, anyone>
[10:00]   Shai : nice responsive buying seen in Maruti now – may just push back to 4450/ 4477 sl at ay lows
[10:00]   Shai : day*
[10:01]   Shai : icici good all day abv 272 may tgt 277/ 277.8
[10:02]   Uttam : thanks Shai
[10:02]   RK : Shai Crude in $ is in wild swing..better to track BPCL here..looks like its trading with good volumes here below support levels..can advise further supports for the week?
[10:13]   Vikkas : shai any view on RIL and asian paints ..looking good for longs ??
[10:14]   Ashish : Thanks Shai for Lupin
[10:19]   Shai : BPCL has wekened clearly but see an immediate supp at 867 on weekly – a bounc eto 902 may be a good short to track
[10:20]   Shai : RIL good for longs – imm tgt is 966
[10:21]   Vikkas : thanx shai
[10:22]   RK : Great..thanks Shai
[10:22]   Shai : asian has to cross 848 for longs
[10:22]   Vikkas : g48 thanx
[10:22]   Vikkas : *gr8
[10:23]   Uttam : In fact in Asian we have a excess today @ high, if day’s low goes it could be a good short as monthly it is bearish
[10:23]   Vikkas : someone had a query regarding maruti this mrng ..can someone pls post shai’s reply
[10:23]   Vikkas : i lost that thing as my net went bad ..
[10:24]   Sandeep : shai, how is arvind looking for a short today?
[10:24]   Kathir : 10:00 Shai : nice responsive buying seen in Maruti now – may just push back to 4450/ 4477 sl at ay lows
[10:24]   Vikkas : thanx kathir
[10:28]   Shai : arvind has been RB mostly a little weakness is there below 283 but short is not looking juicy here. can tgt 278.3 though
[10:29]   Vikkas : shai are we getting any buyers in L&T at the lows today ..
[10:36]   Shai : yes LT good buying
[10:37]   Shai : nice pick may bounce to 1504/ 1515
[10:39]   Kathir : @vikkas thanks man .. had small 4 pints in 1500 ce immediately ater your message
[10:40]   Kathir : 50.5 to 54.5
[10:41]   Uttam : wow Kathir not expiry day but still express trade 🙂
[10:41]   Vikkas : 😉 kathir
[10:42]   Kathir : @vikkas yes even maruti I had 9 points in fut 🙂 small trader
[10:42]   Vikkas : super kathir
[10:43]   Kathir : 🙂 my trade is based on how Shai’s reponse is ..
[10:43]   Vikkas : haha
[10:44]   Kathir : beng ere for 4 + years I understand Sha’s tone well I gess 🙂
[10:44]   Kathir : being
[10:44]   RK : LT results today
[10:44]   Vikkas : woah..
[10:44]   Vikkas : yes RK
[10:45]   Janak : friends who are trading stock futures – pl advise entry/exit if u r sure and if shai approves of them
[10:46]   Kathir : Janak today RIL move is pending from Shai
[10:46]   Vikkas : @uttam TCS on a move
[10:51]   Uttam : yes Vikkas tested another low of 2485 today & if it closes up will be bullish 🙂
[10:56]   Kathir : @Ashish Lupin near shai’s resi zone
[10:56]   R Goel : guys is there any view on Tata motors from morning?
[10:56]   RK : no RG
[10:59]   R Goel : thanks rk
[11:00]   R Goel : shai can you plz share yr views on ttm
[11:01]   Vikkas : yes shai can ttm do 372-365 from here wit hdays high as stop
[11:06]   Gaurav : ICICI results what time any idea?
[11:10]   Kathir : Ashish Lupin
[11:11]   Shai : It’s a good suggestion by Janak – if you are watching a particular stock try takiing about it here esp if near a “level”. On my part I will try to get the closest decimal point 🙂
[11:11]   Shai : collectively it will help all
[11:12]   Uttam : yes godo idea…
[11:12]   Uttam : good
[11:13]   Shankar : Shai HUL has broke 0=H, is it seeing buyers?
[11:14]   Janak : thnx shai – that i feel is more objective and direct way of trading in team
[11:15]   Janak : i daily track dlf future – it has been a sell-on-rise stock since quite sometime – today it has fallen from 122.90
[11:15]   Janak : now where to reenter for short?
[11:18]   Uttam : Asian Paint negating the morning excess made….will be good for longs above today’s high
[11:18]   Uttam : & yes as Shai said 844-848 strong resistance
[11:21]   Shai : hul looking good – gets stronge abv 811.3 for 818.8 and 820.8 with sl of 807
[11:22]   Shankar : thanks shai
[11:22]   Shai : dlf can drop to 119 sl abv 122.3 here
[11:22]   R Goel : shai ttm
[11:22]   Vikkas : shai whats up with ttm ..stuck between 380-395 🙁
[11:23]   Uttam : yes that big candle day of 396-377 price playing in it itself from all these days
[11:24]   Mayur : shai, hul spot prices or fut ??
[11:24]   Vikkas : +1 uttam
[11:25]   r m : only cash price for stocks unless specified
[11:26]   Vikkas : if tcs doesnt take out the days high then a revisit to the days low is on i feel
[11:27]   Shai : hul cash
[11:28]   Shai : ttm RB consolidating in last weeks range
[11:29]   Shai : 384 intra supp
[11:29]   Mayur : okie thx
[11:29]   Shai : 383.3 better intra supp but can drop to 376 next week
[11:32]   RK : Shai is Maruti’s driver seat 🙂
[11:32]   RK : *is in
[11:35]   r m : 🙂
[11:37]   Vikkas : RK sahab ..whats ur view on heromoto
[11:38]   Vikkas : if i am using varun’s idea propery then is heromoto at LT VAL
[11:38]   Vikkas : *properly
[11:40]   Vikkas : shai can u chk the balance of heromoto from 10th aug to 20th aug 2015
[11:40]   Vikkas : and give the value areas pls
[11:40]   RK : Yes still in that support range..sideways only between 2600-2640-45..will consider trades once this range extends
[11:41]   RK : Yday Shai talked about it.pls check stocks sheet
[11:41]   RK : mostly can go down first to get buyers as many attempts at upper range cannot pass through
[11:41]   r m : “(14:36) Shai :hero last week poc acting as a magnet at 2610- even stronger hvn now there and may close 2610 even tom, but next week a break may come in hero which should take out 2670 or 2560 – neutral here”
[11:42]   RK : thanks RM
[11:42]   r m : welcome
[11:43]   Vikkas : thanks RM and RK
[11:46]   Vikkas : 5 day range broken in tatasteel
[11:47]   Shai : last week’s VA in hero is 2623-2610- 2590
[11:47]   Shai : 2610 is prominent and hero may stay there
[11:47]   Vikkas : got it ..thanx shai
[12:01]   Kathir : @shai lupin trading above 1936 past 1 hr what would be SL positional longs
[12:03]   Ashish : Shai, Bajaj-auto a good candidate for short here?
[12:07]   Kathir : @shai also check 1950 range any big seller previously
[12:07]   Kathir : lupin
[12:12]   Vikkas : tisco gone crazy ..big big volumes
[12:13]   Soumya : Shai any view on Eicher here?
[12:14]   Tejpreet : Axis bank good bounce back from lows , can you give lvls for longs from the lows.
[12:16]   Shai : lupin looks ok may head to 1966 but not intra sl below 1930 for now
[12:16]   Kathir : ok shai thanks
[12:18]   Shai : bajaj not yet a short till 2557 breaks, may get supp below 2557 at 2530/ 2512
[12:18]   Shai : Kathir lupin sellers are bigger near 1966
[12:19]   Kathir : got it shai thanks
[12:20]   Shai : tata steel all buy vols of the agg kind . stock headed for an imm 257.3 and 264.9 with stops below 249 on day
[12:20]   Ashish : Thanks Shai
[12:22]   Shai : eicher looking good now , has to hold 17500 today
[12:22]   Shai : immupside is at 17997 and then 18270
[12:23]   Shai : axis good abv 474 can tgt 481 / 483 intra
[12:24]   Tejpreet : Thanks Shi , Axis could go for singles of yesterday at Open.
[12:24]   Tejpreet : Shai *
[12:25]   Shai : possible abv 481
[12:26]   Kathir : @tej what is that level
[12:27]   Tejpreet : Roughly the opening selling from 486 to 476 yesterday.
[12:27]   Tejpreet : All single prints
[12:27]   Kathir : ok thanks
[12:31]   r m : @Kathir http://screencast.com/t/a5YIrM2K
[12:32]   Kathir : oh yes 487 range thanks RM
[12:32]   Tejpreet : Thanks RM for the visual impact !
[12:33]   r m : 🙂
[12:38]   Ashish : Shai, Bataindia @ support levels. What will be the stoploss for long positions ?
[12:40]   Shai : 484 sl bata from here, safety abv 521 next week
[12:42]   Ashish : Thanks..
[12:46]   Ashish : ITC out
[12:46]   Ashish : Bad numbers
[12:46]   Ashish : Shai, ITC can fall to 330?
[12:49]   Shai : 335/ 332
[12:49]   Ashish : Roger that Sir
[12:54]   Ashish : 335 gone
[12:55]   Ashish : 332 bhi aayega
[12:57]   Ashish : KOtak bank results are good. Shai, upside targets
[12:59]   Ashish : 332 done Shai, what’s now below 332 😉
[12:59]   Ashish : in ITC
[13:00]   Tejpreet : Thank Ashish for the ITC alert.
[13:01]   Ashish : Welcome Tej, targets achieved now reversed by buying 360 CE
[13:02]   Tejpreet : 🙂
[13:02]   Ashish : can be lottery
[13:02]   Vikkas : any idea when is nayak reporting numbers
[13:02]   Vikkas : as in the time ?
[13:08]   r m : must be having enormous lunch right now going by his girth 🙂
[13:12]   Vikkas : did anyone notice century tex
[13:12]   Vikkas : what happened
[13:12]   Vikkas : i just saw the new low and went out for a smoke and saw new high.. WTF
[13:14]   Vaibhav : shai could u recheck Kscl , for lngs?
[13:18]   Shai : kscl gotte a bit weak today again
[13:18]   Shai : 499 can come again
[13:30]   Vikkas : some buyback news and suntv zooms off
[13:39]   Tejpreet : Shai can you look at CANBK , next major support lvl.
[13:46]   Shai : sun tv nice move indeed
[13:46]   Shai : the other buy back news is in colpal
[13:47]   Shai : cnbk intra day supp at 278.6 and 276
[13:47]   Shai : 275.9 is major
[13:48]   Tejpreet : Thanks Shai.
[14:11]   Tejpreet : LT results out or not yet.
[14:13]   Vikkas : out
[14:13]   Tejpreet : it goes bust ….market not too happy with results today.
[14:14]   Vikkas : yeah
[14:18]   Tejpreet : Shai can you look at LT post results.
[14:44]   Vikkas : look at L&T..
[14:44]   Vikkas : last low almost there
[14:59]   Tejpreet : (14:18) Tejpreet :Shai can you look at LT post results.
[15:00]   Shai : LT supp at 1391
[15:00]   Shai : bad fall on vols
[15:01]   Tejpreet : Thanks Shai …wanted to sell some OTM puts ….but better to wait I guess .
[15:01]   Vikkas : agreed bad bad fall on volumes again..the price went up in the mrng to be reshorted by big players it seems
[15:10]   Soumya : shai can you please check jubilant after results how is it looking?
[15:11]   Vikkas : anyone seeing RIL..still holding up very strong ??
[15:12]   Shankar : Shai your views on Kotak please
[15:16]   Uttam : @Vikkas ril also joins d fall now
[15:17]   Shai : jubilant looks ok – price clsoing near 413 which is fair for the week
[15:18]   Uttam : Asian looking weak here Shai?
[15:19]   Shai : kotak strng close but needs follow up abv today highs Mon
[15:19]   Soumya : positional for jubilant? 450/480 still open?
[15:20]   Shai : asian not very weak, within the mon spike vol, has to cross 848 again for upsides
[15:24]   Soumya : Shai please update on jubilant positional
[15:25]   Tejpreet : LT spot low ..1400.00 operator perfection 🙂
[15:28]   Vikkas : ohhhooo missed heromoto short 🙁
[15:28]   Shai : (15:17) Shai :jubilant looks ok – price clsoing near 413 which is fair for the week