Trading Order Flow allows a trader to see the specific price where a trade has hit the market, along with the volume of that trade. This information is extremely valuable and allows a trader to generate substantial revenue by using this information to trade.
The way we see it is that Order Flow trading is a mindset. Well, instead of just looking for technical patterns, Trader should go a step further and think about what other market participants might do.
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Room Chat
09:00 Shai : https://vtrender.com/market-profile-analysis-dated-16th-october/
09:34 Shai : Inttra – Buy BNF 28610- 630 sl of 28520 tgt 28790
09:43 Shai : (09:42) Shai : Exit at 28640 in BNF
10:31 Shai : (10:29) Shai : Intra- Keep a buy open in 11500 PE abv 49 sl of 38 tgt 70
12:04 Shai : (12:03) Shai : Intra – short BNF 28770 sl of 28850 tgt 28620
12:12 Shai : (12:11) Shai : Book the BN F at 28740
12:37 Shai : (12:37) Shai : Intra – Buy bBNF 28730 sl of 28625 tgt 28890 . Trade 50%25 size
12:39 Shai : (12:39) Shai : BNf at 28850. Book full
12:46 Shai : (12:45) Shai : Intra – short NF 11513- 11515 sl of 11536 tgt 11486/ 11460
13:11 Shai : (13:10) Shai : NF stopped. Make exits
14:08 Shai : (14:08) Shai : Intra – Buy NF 11562 sl of 11540 tgt 11600
14:24 Shai : (14:23) Shai : Exit the NF here at cost. Risky now
08:51 Krishan : gm all
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08:56 Manish : GudM everyone
09:00 Shai : Gm all
09:00 Shai : https://vtrender.com/market-profile-analysis-dated-16th-october/
09:04 Shai : 11460 F ref line for the open
09:04 Niraj : Good morning
09:04 Shai : Bias stays up above 11460F
09:04 Shai : looking for a reaction from sellers on any higher probes esp 11504/ 11520
09:06 Uttam : Good Morning All 🙂
09:07 Sabarish : good morning
09:14 Santhosh Kumar : good morning
09:18 Uttam : multi day FA confirmed at 11420
09:18 Shai : BNF away
09:18 Uttam : yep
09:18 Uttam : weekly FA in BNF at 28083
09:19 Uttam : 1ATR on weekly timeframe comes to 29440
09:20 Uttam : NF 1art from 11420 on daily comes to 11575
09:20 Uttam : 11505 is 2atr from daily FA of 11114 which is now on t+6 days
09:27 Nishchal : GM All
09:32 Uttam : big reds in BNF, started with that 27k red at 28665 which seemed to have got stuck
09:32 Uttam : but got supported with loads of reds from 28720-28750
09:34 Shai : Inttra – Buy BNF 28610- 630 sl of 28520 tgt 28790
09:38 Mudita : Shai reason for the trade? (09:34) Shai : Inttra – Buy BNF 28610- 630 sl of 28520 tgt 28790
09:38 Shai : early morning buyers + yest buying supp at 28540- 70
09:39 Shai : 11460 late buyers of yesterday
09:42 Shai : Exit at 28640 in BNF
09:43 Shai : vwap resisting
09:43 Shai : will look at longs abv 28675 only now
09:46 Uttam : timely exit Shai +1
09:46 Shai : may do 28450
09:46 Nidhi : sl?
09:46 Shai : avoid
09:47 Shai : those buyers are still there
09:47 Shai : short is right near vwap
09:47 Nidhi : Thanks
09:48 Manish : waiting for vwap test to short
09:48 Uttam : 28576-570 was sup & RB coming there today too for now
09:49 Uttam : could take out vwap this time
09:50 Uttam : below 28570 gets weaker
09:52 Uttam : some good greens in NF too
09:54 Uttam : BNF needs to sustain above 28636
09:54 Manish : HVN @ 28636 ?
09:54 Uttam : no hvn was at 28625 ypoc
09:55 Manish : vwap i guess @28636?
09:56 Uttam : that is the monday high if we ignore that freak ticl of 28790 we had that day
09:56 Manish : okay
09:57 Boppanna : BNF negotiating between Uttam’s hypos a) & b) for the next move
09:57 Uttam : yes Bops right now stuck between 28636 & 28570
09:59 Manish : can we say greens are stuck for now ?
09:59 Uttam : where are the geeens Manish?
10:00 Manish : on nifty
10:00 Niraj : sir do banknifty looking weak
10:00 Boppanna : Buggers could give a move right at the end of IB to make the 80 pt move
10:01 Uttam : low in BNF right at 28570 (09:48) Uttam : 28576-570 was sup & RB coming there today too for now
10:02 Uttam : now getting ready to get above vwap looks like
10:03 Shai : Not at vwap/ dpoc – (09:59) Manish : can we say greens are stuck for now ?
10:03 Shai : It’s just coiled
10:04 Shai : BNF has old buyers at 28540-70 defending
10:04 Manish : okay
10:05 Shai : 11446- 11510 range till 11
10:05 Shai : writers shoulld add more
10:05 Manish : shai on what basis was ur analysis for 11380 expiry today mentioned on twitr ?
10:06 Uttam : boom boom?
10:06 Shai : trigger has not come for that yet
10:06 Shai : auction completes in a bell curve- yesterday was one
10:07 Manish : okay
10:07 Shai : (09:04) Shai : 11460 F ref line for the open(09:04) Shai : Bias stays up above 11460F
10:08 Shai : or failure at highs as mentioned
10:08 Uttam : that 35k red in BNF of morning ressiting here?
10:09 Boppanna : A little early but 50 done from 630 10:00 Boppanna : Buggers could give a move right at the end of IB to make the 80 pt move
10:09 Shai : +1
10:11 Uttam : that 28500ce needs to move abv 222
10:19 Boppanna : comeon BNF above 680 Uttam has cleared the path for 50 more
10:22 Prakash : is it time tobuy NF.??
10:24 Shai : It’s an open auction
10:24 Shai : time to wait
10:24 Shai : but more evidence that afternoon will be wild today
10:27 Boppanna : +1 Shai
10:28 Boppanna : 33 pt IB Uttam lowest of Oct in NF?
10:29 Uttam : yes 6th sep was also 33 🙂
10:29 Shai : Intra- Keep a buy open in 11500 PE abv 49 sl of 38 tgt 70
10:30 Shai : One big buyer at 40 in 11500 pe
10:42 Shai : That trigger will be the same at 11460F approx
10:43 Shai : not looking at sell sides till that is held
10:43 Shai : yesterday’s late buying in NF and BNF clearly still holding this up
11:02 Shai : 39.70 and up- (10:29) Shai : Intra- Keep a buy open in 11500 PE abv 49 sl of 38 tgt 70
11:02 Nidhi : Trade is on
11:02 Shai : yes
11:03 Shai : 39 is that buyer
11:03 Prakash : is it Buy for 11500PE
11:03 Prakash : ??
11:06 Nidhi : yes
11:06 Nidhi : We have bot above 49
11:07 Shai : execute abv 49 if not in
11:13 Shai : exit and will come back later in the PE – 47.9 still
11:14 Shai : expiry day fluctuations
11:14 Shai : needs more volume to break 11460
11:20 Hariprasad : will there be any audio in the room ?
11:21 Shai : 11460 still holding
11:21 Uttam : no Hariprasad, audio is only for webinars
11:22 Hariprasad : okay, how to see BnF chart, I jus now joined
11:22 Uttam : please go through the links in the wlecome mail along with the video on Order Flow
11:22 Uttam : which will give you a good base to start watching the charts in the room
11:23 Hariprasad : ok
11:25 Shai : close any puts if in
11:31 Shai : 11500 ce at 8 sl of 6 tgt 14. 2 point SL
11:48 Shai : exit the CE at 7
11:48 Shai : Not doing anything
11:52 Boppanna : 50k in NF
11:53 Shai : vwap shoukld come
11:53 Uttam : BNF
11:57 Shai : BNF craxy mode
11:58 Boppanna : 0’s right around 10:19 Boppanna : comeon BNF above 680 Uttam has cleared the path for 50 more
11:59 Shai : 11500 ce
11:59 Shai : 🙁
11:59 Boppanna : That guy knew something 11:52 Boppanna : 50k in NF
12:01 Boppanna : Sorry ignore 11:59 Boppanna : That guy knew something 11:52 Boppanna : 50k in NF
12:02 Prakash : is it buy on dips,,??
12:02 Uttam : 28700 is the new IB in BNF
12:03 Shai : Intra – short BNF 28770 sl of 28850 tgt 28620
12:09 Uttam : yet another FA at lows in NF
12:09 Uttam : this time at 11458
12:09 Uttam : probable sorry so far
12:09 Uttam : but could get confirmed soon
12:10 Vijay null : s
12:11 Shai : Book the BN F at 28740
12:15 Shai : BNf may have some steam left for more upside
12:15 Shai : hence the exit
12:16 Shai : That 50K guy in NF is now out
12:18 Shai : still the same – (10:05) Shai : 11446- 11510 range till 11
12:18 Santhosh Kumar : chat please
12:19 Hariprasad : Hi I have been using orderflow for past 3 years.
12:20 Hariprasad : Many times I have done many use ful trades with it, but one common may be silly doubt i have is. How do we know whether the huge volume you see at the top or bottom is because of resonsive sellers or buyers , Or those are just SL orders
12:21 Shai : Sl orders will show as 0 prints
12:21 Shai : sl- M rather
12:22 Shai : the rest you can see on buy side or sell side
12:22 Hariprasad : ok you mean suppose if I see a big order on the short side, and the 0 on the buy side. it means it is SL order,. So now will you consider that as responsive selling ?
12:23 Shai : No
12:23 Shai : we have clear defiinitiosn for RS
12:23 Shai : please go through the videos
12:23 Uttam : @Hariprasad in the OF video these concepts are very clearly explained
12:23 Uttam : with conditions for each
12:23 Uttam : so please go through them once & it would be much better for you to inteprete
12:23 Hariprasad : ok cool, just out of curiosity I asked. I will watch the video first.
12:24 Uttam : thanks 🙂
12:25 Shai : This chap took it to 14.4 but just that wild one leg down knocked him off – (11:31) Shai : 11500 ce at 8 sl of 6 tgt 14. 2 point SL
12:25 Shai : that 52 K guy came around second time
12:26 Shai : could have been the same fund also
12:26 Shai : 11480 supp for now
12:26 Shai : below that we should visit 11459 again
12:27 Mudita : You mean 0 in the same row (in either buy side or sell side depending on the SL).. or 0’s on upside or downside (near the location)..?(12:21) Shai : Sl orders will show as 0 prints
12:27 Shai : sometimes both sides
12:37 Shai : Intra – Buy bBNF 28730 sl of 28625 tgt 28890 . Trade 50% size
12:38 Shai : (12:15) Shai : BNf may have some steam left for more upside
12:38 Uttam : NFffffffffffffff
12:38 Shai : 28815
12:39 Jitender : superb timing Shai
12:39 Shai : BNf at 28850. Book full
12:40 Shai : _/|_- (12:39) Jitender : superb timing Shai
12:40 Shai : to be honest timing has been off, but I’m thankful the readings are still right, else am dead
12:40 Jitender : u wud nvr be
12:40 Jitender : coz VT will nvr be
12:40 Shai : 🙂
12:41 Boppanna : +1
12:41 Jitender : we have a pendn drink meeting wen u, i & uttam meet to share a drink, wen we all r abv 75
12:42 Uttam : cheers Jit 🙂
12:42 Shai : 11500 ce now shorts – sl abv 27
12:42 Shai : 13 and 9 exp
12:43 Uttam : 11400ce tgts Shai?
12:43 Boppanna : Shai BNF 29000?
12:43 Uttam : in from 83 in it
12:44 Uttam : booked at 105
12:45 Shai : Intra – short NF 11513- 11515 sl of 11536 tgt 11486/ 11460
12:59 Uttam : 29069 coming in BNF
13:00 Boppanna : IMO Spot needs to sustain above 820 for more upside in BN
13:01 Uttam : (12:02) Uttam : 28700 is the new IB in BNF
13:01 Uttam : BNF made a low of 28706 before this new leg up
13:01 Uttam : OF rocks
13:02 Boppanna : +1 perfect read
13:02 Uttam : all thanks to Shai & his teachings
13:03 Uttam : needs to stay above 28860 now BNF
13:03 Shai : _/\_
13:03 Uttam : imp zone plus 0s there
13:03 Uttam : yeh lo
13:04 Uttam : (09:18) Uttam : weekly FA in BNF at 28083(09:19) Uttam : 1ATR on weekly timeframe comes to 29440(09:20) Uttam : NF 1art from 11420 on daily comes to 11575(09:20) Uttam : 11505 is 2atr from daily FA of 11114 which is now on t+6 days
13:04 Nidhi : Nifty sell sl?
13:04 Uttam : 0s at top so can hold for now, another swipe above 11536 can exit
13:04 Shai : hold
13:04 Nidhi : ok
13:06 Shai : should come down to 11511
13:07 Mudita : Shai can u explain exactly what happ here.. in 12:55 pm candle i was watching that 6900 green, which was the highest point, suddenly there were so many reds and mkts kept moving up..
13:07 Uttam : 11538 is a vpoc in NF
13:07 Shai : 11539 is my stop
13:07 Uttam : above hat we could complete that 1atr obj of 11575
13:07 Shai : wille xit if taken
13:07 Uttam : +1 Shai
13:08 Nidhi : stops in the system (13:07) Shai : 11539 is my stop
13:09 Shai : 11500 ce writers they are after
13:10 Shai : roughly 25 zone
13:10 Uttam : yes was abt to say that
13:10 Uttam : 11500OI coming closer here
13:10 Shai : if they break we will swipe up with stops
13:10 Nidhi : meaning?
13:10 Shai : the 43 will come quick
13:10 Nidhi : sl?
13:10 Shai : NF stopped. Make exits
13:11 Uttam : BNF on for that vpoc of 29350 if not today them by tom looks like
13:12 Shai : NF or BNF?- (13:07) Mudita : Shai can u explain exactly what happ here.. in 12:55 pm candle i was watching that 6900 green, which was the highest point, suddenly there were so many reds and mkts kept moving up..
13:12 Shai : expiry afternoon – the options OI becomes afctor
13:13 Shai : This move is holding up as 11500 writers are in pain and liquidating
13:13 Uttam : (12:59) Uttam : 29069 coming in BNF(13:03) Uttam : needs to stay above 28860 now BNF
13:14 Boppanna : chalo chalo BNF
13:14 Shai : 43 coming in 11500 ce
13:14 Shai : pain
13:15 Shai : will look at puts only if 11510 breaks again
13:15 Shai : selelrs lost one opp there
13:21 Shai : Intra – Keep a new short open in NF below 11507 sl of 11539 tgt 11460. Trade small size
13:22 Shai : That low of the day needs a visist again but will consider only if 11510 breaks again
13:22 Shai : last short at 11513 failed
13:23 Shai : I’m looking at yesterday lows if that plays out fully
13:24 Nidhi : In that case buying 11500p wpuld be the best play?
13:24 Nidhi : when 510 goes
13:25 Shai : yes
13:25 Shai : No shorts here- trigger is below 510
13:36 Boppanna : +100 Nice cruise Uttam 13:13 Uttam : (12:59) Uttam : 29069 coming in BNF(13:03) Uttam : needs to stay above 28860 now BNF
13:37 Shai : 42.85- (13:14) Shai : 43 coming in 11500 ce
13:38 Shai : massacre of the CE writers
13:39 Niraj : true
13:39 Niraj : still any scope for long
13:47 Uttam : Done (09:20) Uttam : NF 1art from 11420 on daily comes to 11575
13:47 Uttam : BNF giving that 28350-382-440 today?
13:48 Uttam : NF can do 11628-634
13:49 Uttam : _/\_ (13:36) Boppanna : +100 Nice cruise Uttam 13:13 Uttam : (12:59) Uttam : 29069 coming in BNF(13:03) Uttam : needs to stay above 28860 now BNF
13:49 Nidhi : You mean 29350-382-440 (13:47) Uttam : BNF giving that 28350-382-440 today?
13:49 Uttam : sorry yes 🙂
14:07 Uttam : 29000 OI in focus now for the last hour
14:07 Uttam : 12: to 5L Ce OI to PE I
14:08 Shai : Intra – Buy NF 11562 sl of 11540 tgt 11600
14:09 Santhosh Kumar : dipali ?
14:09 Nidhi : its 572 now (14:08) Shai : Intra – Buy NF 11562 sl of 11540 tgt 11600
14:09 Shai : buy near 560
14:09 Nidhi : okay
14:09 Shai : don’t chase
14:12 Jitender : reuters brkn tat china wants to end trade war
14:12 Jitender : statement
14:13 Shai : now?
14:13 Jitender : yup
14:13 Jitender : 2.09
14:14 Uttam : come on BNF get above that 29167 for a final leg up
14:15 Uttam : NF needs to stay above 11575
14:23 Shai : Exit the NF here at cost. Risky now
14:24 Shai : 11555 TSL if needed
14:24 Shai : one trip to 11580
14:26 Uttam : both 29000ce&pe at 40-45
14:30 Shai : 10550 pe lottery trade – 10 now sl 0 tgt 25/ 55
14:31 Uttam : 11550pe
14:31 Shai : 11550 *
14:31 Shai : yes thanks
14:31 Uttam : 🙂
14:32 Shai : 11559 to 11510 can be the ride
14:43 Boppanna : Uttam u giving a 2:45 move in BNF?
14:45 Uttam : weekly expiry Bops so could be muted unless we some new vols in OF
14:46 Uttam : you doing this Bops 😉
14:46 Boppanna : BNF 29100ce lottery IMO
14:46 Uttam : 29000ce OI needs to start coming down
14:46 Uttam : 15L now
14:50 Jitender : ys a spike can come
14:52 Shai : 11585 long liquidation
14:53 Shai : t
14:57 Uttam : Jit you making the 3:05 move today?
14:59 Rajiv : JIt : BNF not in line?
14:59 Jitender : its k
14:59 Jitender : also tie
14:59 Jitender : time
14:59 Jitender : n time 2 watch fr 10 mins
15:01 Uttam : NFfff
15:05 Shai : 11630 coming
15:05 Shai : put got wasted
15:06 Uttam : BNF Shai?
15:06 Govind : Brexit deal done
15:06 Govind : Says Reuters
15:08 Boppanna : SPX spiking
15:08 Shai : hmm
15:10 Shai : 29100 spot tough res
15:12 Rajiv : on a day like this BNF in a 100 point range for the last 2 hours NIFTY 17-Oct-2019 CE 11550
15:14 Shai : move up becuas eof option math
15:14 Shai : building pos in the 11500 pe at 85 31st oct
15:14 Shai : should do 11480 F again
15:15 Manish : shai logic behind testing 11480F again ?
15:16 Shai : COT
15:23 Shai : 11640 is the review zone tom for short
15:23 Shai : 11640F
15:24 Shai : 11810 if we cross that
15:24 Shai : else first down to 11460- 480
15:24 Shai : RR easy to manage here
15:24 Uttam : perfect Shai 11775 is the 2atr from the weekly FA of 11114
15:24 Uttam : 11787
15:25 Shai : and from 11458 FA?
15:25 Uttam : 11731 2atr from 11420
15:25 Uttam : 11611 was 1 atr from todays FA
15:25 Uttam : 2atr comes to 11763
15:25 Shai : nice
15:26 Shai : 11500 ce was blown away today
15:26 Shai : major reason for the move
15:26 Shai : 96 it did
15:28 Uttam : +1
15:28 Rajiv : SHAI any BTST
15:28 Uttam : gap up tom could force these reds of today to cover Shai?
15:28 Manish : sir what ref is 11640? HVN ?
15:29 Shai : RO point
15:29 Shai : No Rajiv waiting for open tom
15:29 Uttam : vpoc also there
15:29 Manish : RO means ?
15:29 Shai : Bye all
15:29 Uttam : Roll Over
15:29 Manish : okay
15:29 Shai : Have a nice evening
15:29 Uttam : @Manish these details given in the daily report
15:29 Boppanna : Bye and thx all
15:30 Uttam : thanks All 🙂 have a lovely evening