Trading Order Flow allows a trader to see the specific price where a trade has hit the market, along with the volume of that trade. This information is extremely valuable and allows a trader to generate substantial revenue by using this information to trade.
The way we see it is that Order Flow trading is a mindset. Well, instead of just looking for technical patterns, Trader should go a step further and think about what other market participants might do.
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08:52 Arcchit Agarwal : GM All
09:02 Naren : Hi Gm All.
09:03 Aditya09 : hi goodmorning happy trading
09:05 Rusi : Hi Gm all
09:06 Prateeek : Good morning friends
09:08 Shai : GM all\
09:08 Tejpreet : GM All.
09:08 Shai : ref line for the higher open of today is 12060
09:08 Shai : watch 12115 on any upsides
09:09 Shai : supp lower is at 11923 and then the big one at 11810
09:09 Shai : OAOR possible but a lot of money is trappd at the open of today
09:09 Shai : so watch and trade accordingly
09:11 Shai : BNf continues to swing up on the good story of banks using tje lower interest rates to push loans
09:11 Shai : there is good opp on all banks led by CASA stores etc
09:11 Shai : is the big bull to watch into dec
09:11 Arjun : GM ALl.
09:11 Ravi : join me working?
09:11 Uttam : Good Morning All 🙂
09:12 Arjun : join.me not working for me too
09:12 Rajesh G : yes no screen on join me
09:12 Vishnu : any short view for bnf shai?
09:15 Uttam : BN spot gaps up above the dialy ext handle of 25923 of March
09:15 Uttam : 26336 ref on upside in it now
09:15 Uttam : NF opens right at 2 ATR of yesterdays FA
09:15 Uttam : a) NF needs to sustain above 11936 for a rise to 11968 / 12001-030 & 12089-121
09:16 Ankush Jain : joinme not working?
09:16 Ankush Jain : getting a black screen
09:16 Rupen : Blacked out….
09:16 Ravi : yeah not working but i think Shai has already noted it
09:16 Tejpreet : overnite shorts killed at open1.5l blue cot
09:17 Uttam : oyu did this Tej ;-p
09:17 Tejpreet : uttam i did 73 odd to 82 on the 12k ce 🙂
09:18 Uttam : overnight ka batao bhai 😉 intra ka nahi
09:18 Tejpreet : overnight your feb level on watch today.
09:18 Vtrender Live : 5 min NF charts – https://join.me/326-378-060
09:18 Uttam : above 26336 BN spot has a 350 pointer move probable
09:19 Uttam : BNF is the beast this week
09:19 Uttam : 2700 points up in 4 days in Nov F
09:20 Tejpreet : Looks like Santa came before Diwali fearing a lockdown later !!
09:20 Shai : Please use new join me linkl
09:20 Uttam : quarantine hoga na so coming 14 days before diwali too 😉
09:20 Tejpreet : 🙂
09:20 Uttam : need to put all new strike prices in both
09:21 Shai : OAOR at 12060
09:21 Uttam : trade kab karenge 😉
09:21 Prashant : test
09:22 Tejpreet : vix comfortable below 22.5
09:23 Shai : 12014- 12114 range of OAOR
09:33 Shai : Buy NF 12057 sl of 12025 tgt 12105
09:41 Shai : exit this at cost 12057 here – (09:33) Shai : Buy NF 12057 sl of 12025 tgt 12105
09:41 Shai : does not look like it wants to move away
09:41 Shai : we wait
09:41 Ankush Jain : very slow today
09:42 Shai : you want something like yesterday everyday?
09:42 Himanshu : Ankush – they are counting votes mannually so .. it takes time
09:42 Himanshu : like that,,
09:43 Himanshu : GM all
09:44 Himanshu : I see order for electronic voting machine to BEL from US from New Admin
09:44 Shai : tell them to order our EC alos
09:44 Shai : they do a better job 🙂
09:44 Himanshu : Yes
09:45 Ankush Jain : so many polls went wrong. Who can judge the human mind?
09:45 Himanshu : by far – Chief – I was shocked to see – they want to go to moon and
09:45 Himanshu : can’t count vote 0
09:45 Ankush Jain : they deployed machine learning, algos etc to predict
09:46 Himanshu : Tesla could have made this machines much before SpaceX
09:46 Himanshu : Agian – too much investment for Prediction and forecasting – instead of maintaining Order Flow – Count numbers voted ( traded)
09:48 Ankush Jain : +1
09:48 Rajesh G : shai why did we exit
09:49 Rajesh G : volume reduced
09:49 Himanshu : Not for nothing – we are largest democracy .. our last election stats were flashing on news channel – like wonder on earth..
09:49 Shai : That RB went to RS- (09:48) Rajesh G : shai why did we exit
09:49 Rajesh G : thanks shai
09:49 Shai : so flat and should coil again
09:49 K2dt : also not getting any IB 🙁
09:50 Shai : if you spot opp here take it- (09:23) Shai : 12014- 12114 range of OAOR
09:50 Shai : but OAOR rules do not give mucg edge to entry at vwap
09:51 Uttam : see the volume bar making lower lows in both NF & BNF
09:51 Uttam : typical OAOR
09:51 Uttam : coiling ahead unless we get a vol expansion
09:52 K2dt : speedo too dpwn from 150 to 106 UG
09:52 Rajesh G : UG volume expansion is relative to last few candles?
09:52 Rahul : shai can u reset font size
09:53 Shai : pushed it back to manual
09:53 Shai : some one remind me if it goes off screen
09:54 Ankush Jain : plento action yesterday everywhere. Nevada says they are too tired to continue counting. Will come back tomorrow
09:55 Ankush Jain : Otherwise Las Vegas never sleeps
09:56 Rusi : ye to hamare sarkari karamchari se bhi bekar nikle ankush
09:57 Ankush Jain : so slow today that have to chk whether chrts are moving or not
09:58 Rusi : what is considered as average vol/sec in nifty and BN ?
09:59 Shai : :)- (09:54) Ankush Jain: plento action yesterday everywhere. Nevada says they are too tired to continue counting. Will come back tomorrow
09:59 Shai : just imagine what our news anchors would tell them 🙂
09:59 Shai : It’s relative but 700 is lower side- (09:58) Rusi : what is considered as average vol/sec in nifty and BN ?
10:00 Rusi : so currently we are much below the normal low of 700 .
10:00 Ankush Jain : our news anchors would have jumped out of their seats and screaming
10:03 Shai : .yes VoS is low
10:03 Shai : yesterday we were near 3000
10:03 Shai : will tell you if the market is quiet or not
10:05 Shai : Announcement- We are rescheduling today’s webinar to next thursday (12th Nov) at 08.30 pm. The change is to incorporate new features to charts which should be ready this weekend. Will explain how they function in the webinar. Make sure you don’t miss the next one
10:05 Uttam : wow sounds great Shai 🙂
10:05 Uttam : Diwali dhamaka BO session it would be
10:05 Amit Jain : +1
10:06 Sumeet : * rubbing hands in glee at new charts *
10:06 Arjun : Shai -if possible please haev reocridng of that .
10:06 Aditya09 : super
10:07 Uttam : Dhanteras it is that day 🙂
10:07 Tejpreet : +1 Shai.
10:07 Tejpreet : Uttam got eagle eyes everywhere 🙂
10:07 Sumeet : UG has eyes for dhan everywhere
10:07 Uttam : lol
10:07 Tejpreet : lol
10:09 Uttam : NF looking better than BNF now
10:09 Uttam : steady above vwap
10:09 Uttam : Vix down by 8.5%
10:10 Shai : but option activity is lower side
10:11 Shai : not many traded looks like or carried
10:13 Tejpreet : Time for C side move on expiry day.
10:22 Gopi : vix down 9 percent
10:23 Uttam : (10:09) Uttam : NF looking better than BNF now(10:09) Uttam : steady above vwap
10:23 Tejpreet : whattay c side …dt done.
10:23 Sumeet : a biggie in nf
10:24 K2dt : 73-104 12000ce
10:24 Uttam : congo T & K
10:25 Tejpreet : tks and congrats to all morning greens.
10:26 Shai : end of auction but o’s below
10:26 Shai : 12087 supp
10:27 Shai : Biden got 270? in leads now
10:27 Shai : now trump will fight in court
10:28 Ankush Jain : if u take 6 seats of Nevada
10:28 Jitender : even Arizona is in fav or Biden
10:28 Ankush Jain : still 25% votes to be counted there
10:28 Jitender : Neveda margin is low
10:29 Ankush Jain : lead by just 8k votes
10:29 Rohit : Biden has 264 with 60 results left
10:29 Ankush Jain : Arizona already to Biden
10:29 Jitender : k
10:29 Jitender : Rohit..u have to check leads also
10:29 Ankush Jain : only 5 states left
10:29 Ankush Jain : Alaska, Penny, georgia, n carolina Trump leads
10:30 Ankush Jain : Nevada Biden
10:30 Rusi : shai , is the c side breakout genuine with good volumes ?
10:30 Himanshu : Corona did job for Biden – Chinese took proper reveange of Trade arm twisting,,
10:30 Uttam : we got 0s at top Rusi and Shai mentioned it is end of auction
10:30 Shai : Vols are higjh fpr C side
10:30 Rusi : tnnx
10:30 K2dt : tx UG nd congo all in green
10:30 Shai : short only below 12087
10:30 K2dt : yes chief big vol candle that is
10:30 Shai : (10:26) Shai : 12087 supp
10:30 Uttam : 2.5L we have at that 0s bar near top
10:31 Jitender : i dont think so H…its the consolidation of the black vote…coz of riots and bad handling…conservatives went for Trrump
10:31 KK : but BNF didn’t make highs
10:31 K2dt : Jit u think Dems good for india?
10:31 Jitender : why should tey be bad
10:31 Jitender : Powee hai na
10:32 Jitender : Powell
10:32 Uttam : NF gave C side on top & looks like BNF wants to do it on downside 🙂
10:32 Uttam : yeh lo
10:33 Viswas : what sl n trgt shai sir, 12087 short triggered
10:34 Uttam : 26k PE from 110-139
10:34 Tejpreet : c side 2l seller get the vwap.
10:34 Uttam : and BNF C side gets some good greens and much needed vols
10:35 Tejpreet : +1 Uttam
10:35 Uttam : thanks Tej 🙂
10:37 Himanshu : PMO will consolidate with OBAMA
10:38 Himanshu : Obama will play some role in relation with India –
10:38 Himanshu : PM will have bear- Hug trip for Biden now ..
10:38 Himanshu : But good for IT – Pharma etc …
10:42 Uttam : 12k PE has been written aggressively since open
10:42 Uttam : hope those guys do not get into trouble
10:43 Uttam : same with 26k PE guys
10:43 Uttam : small dip in OI cane in it
10:43 Uttam : but still lots left
10:46 Uttam : BNF has 0s at 26090
10:46 Uttam : just above IBL
10:47 Uttam : ref on upside
10:47 Uttam : if not taken out then can make new lows
10:56 Tejaswini : UG what can we look for on the downside?
10:56 Tejaswini : YPOC?
10:56 Ankush Jain : NF wants to make a gaussian bell today?
11:00 KK : 16K at IBL
11:00 KK : bnf
11:03 Uttam : 29k you mean?
11:05 KK : yes
11:05 KK : 29k
11:05 KK : can go long for 26190 ?
11:07 KK : with SL 26010
11:10 Tejaswini : charts stuck?
11:11 Tejaswini : fine now
11:14 Rusi : very low volume again
11:15 Shai : typical OAOR
11:15 Shai : wait for G or K
11:15 Shai : else trade small points in between
11:15 Rusi : ok. thanks shai
11:15 Devkant : Shai any rag pull possibility ?
11:18 KK : done. booked at 26180
11:18 K2dt : UG entered bnf looks like :))
11:18 Sumeet : whoomp !
11:20 Uttam : 26k ce 170-205
11:21 K2dt : see..told u guys :))
11:21 K2dt : cheers UG
11:21 Uttam : 26090 needed to be taken out
11:21 Uttam : booked at vwap
11:22 Uttam : though can give more
11:24 Tejaswini : KK and UG I didnt see any 29k at IBL?
11:26 Sadees : 11am candle has 29K
11:27 Tejaswini : got it thanks S. That POC line hid it
11:28 Tejaswini : Good find KK
11:29 KK : tx
11:32 Shubham Q null : where can I get join me link in webinato mobile application
11:32 Uttam : @T the POC line has the highest vols so we need to observe the vols there 🙂 (11:27) Tejaswini : got it thanks S. That POC line hid it
11:32 Uttam : https://join.me/326-378-060
11:33 Shubham Q null : thanks ug
11:33 Uttam : +1
11:33 Uttam : BNF has 0s at vwap
11:33 Uttam : so PLR up in it
11:33 Uttam : 26100 sup – change of polarity
11:34 Tejaswini : Yeah thanks UG
11:35 K2dt : UG 1.5IB in nf at 12118?
11:35 Uttam : yes 12119
11:35 K2dt : tx UG
11:36 Uttam : yesterday both NF & BNF failed to tag 1.5 IB and reversed the probe
11:36 Uttam : givign a Neutral Day
11:36 K2dt : yes UG..powerful strategy it is 🙂
11:37 Uttam : sorry BNF did do 1.5 IB but missed the 2 IB
11:37 KK : Shai, will RIL return from here, or cross 1970 ?
11:38 Shai : 1968 old support was broken
11:38 Shai : will need to cross abv and close with vols
11:38 Sandesh : 1600 on shai?
11:38 KK : I was thinking the same, long after crossing 1970, works ?
11:38 Shai : look at 2040 abv 1970
11:39 Rusi : ril has s/r at every 200 point approx. like 200 /1800/1600 etc
11:39 Rusi : *2000
11:40 KK : bnf back..:)..
11:40 Tejaswini : 7k stuck at the wrong place?
11:41 Uttam : testing those 0s
11:42 Uttam : OAOR trade in 26kce from 186-195
11:42 Uttam : 0s holding for now
11:47 KK : If RIL returns , bnf will be required for index
11:48 Himanshu : Move will come at the time – when most discrestionary traders will fall sleep
11:50 Uttam : OAOR it is H so anyways till afternoon range bound expected to be
11:50 Uttam : plus we have expiry also today
11:50 Uttam : with Vix going underground 😉
11:51 K2dt : UG for 1.5IB till what time we wait?
11:51 Uttam : today we have the C side RE in NF K which had given VWAP
11:51 Uttam : so C side high not crossed
11:52 Uttam : peobable FA there for now but VWAP also holding
11:52 Uttam : so one side needs to go
11:52 K2dt : tx UG
11:53 Uttam : BNF getting reayd for another Neutral Day?
11:56 Uttam : good chance for a DD also in both
11:57 Tejaswini : upside or downside?:)
11:57 Viswas : us sliding
11:59 Shai : 12100 oe abv 60 will do 92 sl of 46
11:59 Shai : buy abv
11:59 Vidhyasagar Lingesan : pe?
11:59 Shai : pe**
12:00 Uttam : BNF once again stalling at that 26090
12:00 Shai : 12028 doable if we break 12070
12:00 Uttam : reds stuck there for now
12:00 Himanshu : thought – We have launched oe ( new Vt options) haha
12:00 Himanshu : Chief can do anything ..
12:03 Shai : MP lite is there
12:03 Shai : All should have that tab open for options
12:03 Shai : it is good
12:03 Ankush Jain : yes it is
12:03 Shai : https://mplite.vtrender.com/opchart/?selectedSymbol=O_NIFTY_E05-11-2020
12:04 Sumeet : Cannot imagine how I used to trade expiry days before this beauty came about. Cannot thank you enough
12:05 Shai : Credit is to Suyog not me
12:05 Sumeet : esp the MP charts for the options
12:05 Sumeet : All of you !
12:05 Sumeet : _/\_
12:05 Uttam : yes Suyog has given us all a lifelong treasure 🙂
12:05 Shai : _/\_
12:06 MJ : Shai: If you can take us through what columns you focus on the option chart. Would be amazing.
12:07 Uttam : huge OI change in that 12100pe today Shai
12:07 Uttam : almost 15L
12:07 Shai : G
12:07 Shai : 5
12:08 Ankush Jain : jee
12:09 Shai : vwap and POC only- (12:06) MJ : Shai: If you can take us through what columns you focus on the option chart. Would be amazing.
12:09 Uttam : along with dOI 😉
12:10 Ankush Jain : can we put SLs abv max of 2?
12:11 Ankush Jain : for the short options
12:11 Shai : ?
12:12 MJ : Okay bossman.
12:12 Ankush Jain : if short in options, can we put sl above max of vwap, poc as per option charts?
12:12 Uttam : this guy getting out looks like – (12:00) Uttam : BNF once again stalling at that 26090(12:00) Uttam : reds stuck there for now
12:13 Uttam : 26kce from 223-239.1
12:13 Uttam : agian trade on those 0s holding
12:13 Uttam : more cna come
12:14 Uttam : (11:53) Uttam : BNF getting reayd for another Neutral Day?
12:19 Ankush Jain : Shai we have untagged POC of 12125 of 19-20th FEB. It can act as a resistance?
12:23 KK : this time can it cross 1968 , RIL ?
12:28 Viswas : breaker at IBH , confusion
12:29 Viswas : us sliding
12:32 Uttam : Done – (11:53) Uttam : BNF getting reayd for another Neutral Day?
12:32 Uttam : G ka kamaal
12:32 Uttam : spot needs to maken ew highs
12:32 Uttam : BN
12:32 Uttam : boom boom
12:34 Uttam : probable end of auction in BNF if those 0s at top are held
12:34 Uttam : 98k red at 26275
12:35 Uttam : I had entered 26500pe at 372 but didnt seem right so scrathced that trade at 376 and now it is down to 277
12:36 Viswas : is is good to hold ce for more?
12:37 Uttam : book 50% & trail to cost
12:37 Uttam : or book fully
12:37 Uttam : cos 0s at top
12:37 Uttam : dont let a profitabler trade turn into minus
12:37 Ankush Jain : +1
12:38 Sumeet : +1 Uttam. Finished DT and my mind knows to not overtrade esp in these volatile times. Need some soothing balm for the khujli
12:38 Uttam : +100 S
12:40 Uttam : get BN Spot to wake up
12:40 Uttam : can give a 300 pointer
12:40 Devkant : Red dots in NF & BN
12:41 Uttam : G makes new high in NF but still unable to tag that 1.5 IB
12:41 Uttam : 12113 high
12:41 Uttam : can give a vwao test if this high stays
12:42 Devkant : 8 points shy of 12121
12:42 Uttam : get it above 12121 and we get into extended hypo
12:43 Devkant : cool thanks UG
12:44 Uttam : 12118
12:46 Ravi : spot not making new high
12:53 Uttam : BN spot wakint up?
12:53 Uttam : lets go
12:58 Tejpreet : one spike and get me 35 in that 121k ce Uttam.
13:01 Viswas : prem. erosion so fast
13:02 Ankush Jain : 12121 holding
13:05 Prashant : Just one thing, is’t 1.5 IB at 12115?
13:06 Prashant : isn’t
13:07 Uttam : BNF stalling just below 1.5 IB of 26340
13:07 Uttam : BN spot needs to get anove 26336
13:09 Uttam : 37k red stopped the move in BNF for now
13:10 Uttam : NF making new highs
13:10 Uttam : H wala hammer?
13:10 Tejpreet : tks Uttam part bookeed 34.80 sl 23 on rest.
13:11 Sumeet : 26350 pending
13:11 Uttam : congo Tej
13:12 Tejpreet : tks
13:13 MJ : hdfcbank vs kotak. Race to ATH. Who wins it?
13:13 Uttam : koi bhi jeete, BNF will win 🙂
13:15 Shai : 12095 sl here tgt 12161 cmp 12122
13:15 Shai : trade 50% size only
13:16 Uttam : 26317 spot high
13:16 Uttam : 236336
13:16 Uttam : 26336
13:17 Uttam : BNF needs a refresh Shai
13:17 Uttam : got 2 10k greens at top
13:18 Uttam : BNF tags 26339.9 – (13:07) Uttam : BNF stalling just below 1.5 IB of 26340
13:21 Tejpreet : vwap gifted by that 2 10k
13:22 Viswas : is this trap?
13:24 Viswas : icicibank wiped whole gain
13:31 Shai : exit the NF at 12109- (13:15) Shai : 12095 sl here tgt 12161 cmp 12122
13:31 Shai : too may reds
13:33 Viswas : any expiry bet sir
13:34 Shai : 12100 strike in control
13:34 Ankush Jain : both?
13:36 Shai : yes\
13:36 Shai : 38 solid res in 12100 ce
13:36 Shai : 45 in 12100 pe
13:57 Shai : look to buy 12100 pe near 24- 25 sl of 18
13:57 Shai : tgt 48
13:59 Shai : 15 mins hold per time algo
13:59 Uttam : 12100pe from 33.9-39.3
13:59 Uttam : 30 secs trade 😉
14:00 Shai : get in at 30 if missed
14:00 Shai : same sl
14:03 Shai : 10 misn
14:05 Uttam : NF MP chart not updating?
14:05 Shai : 38 book half
14:05 Uttam : +1
14:06 Uttam : thanks Shai
14:06 Shai : leave sl at 24
14:06 Shai : give it 7 ,mins
14:12 Rajesh G : test
14:14 Shai : exit balance at 30
14:14 Shai : strangle hold by 12100 ce pe
14:17 Uttam : BNF to finish its incomplete business?
14:18 Sumeet : yay for k
14:19 Uttam : Spot high in BN 26333
14:19 Uttam : 26336 needed
14:19 Uttam : chalo baNDHU
14:19 Uttam : ho gaya
14:20 Uttam : now spot making new highs but BNF not
14:22 Shai : go long abv 26.5 for 43 sl of 21 in 11100 ce
14:23 Shai : that PE failed so testing the CE
14:23 Uttam : OI started to fallin that CE
14:31 Tejpreet : that 12100 combo playing odd even game …one of them needs to give a dukaan trade 🙂
14:31 Uttam : yes Tej 1 hour left
14:31 Uttam : so it cannot be truce as yet
14:32 Tejpreet : so let’s decide the parking slot and get into the dukaan 🙂
14:33 Uttam : the CE guys under pressure here
14:33 Shai : Avpid that 12100 ce for now
14:33 Shai : they are holding it tight
14:33 Uttam : need to get below 45L Shai thayt OI
14:38 Shai : 15 each
14:40 Tejpreet : Tks chief wanted to say that but then i make them go to 0 🙂
14:41 Ankush Jain : quiet K today
14:44 Rahul : seems ce & pe hv made peace
14:46 Viswas : 10pt move 😉
14:48 KK : PE it is
14:49 KK : nope..going to 0 i guess
14:52 Ankush Jain : expiry around 12000 (spot) it seems
14:52 Uttam : 12100
14:52 Uttam : and 26300
15:04 Ankush Jain : yes 12100
15:04 Ankush Jain : 12000 ko to koi Mauka nahin diya Trump ne
15:04 Ankush Jain : 🙂
15:05 Uttam : room charts gone?
15:06 Uttam : 26300ce writers have added galore in last few mins
15:07 Uttam : peaceful close in both looks like
15:07 Uttam : nice balanced profile too
15:07 Tejpreet : Uttam next week 121k combo looks fairly priced 250 odd….you got 10% vix drop plus Trump drama over the weekend and bihar results on 10th ….only worry is we might balance tomorrow and further dip in vix .
15:08 Uttam : +1 Tej Vix falling further is the problem
15:11 Uttam : 26300ce can still give one spike
15:18 Ankush Jain : so NF tags 2IB
15:19 Shai : election is now priced in fully
15:19 Shai : trump drama is not
15:19 Shai : house has also not changed much right?
15:20 Ankush Jain : yes
15:20 Ravi : Shai you mean Biden winning is priced
15:20 Shai : yes
15:20 Ravi : and not any disruption by trump with legal stuff
15:20 Ravi : got it
15:20 Ravi : thanks shai
15:22 Shai : what if trump acts like one of our ploiticans and keeps biden waiting outside the white house for a month 🙂
15:22 Ravi : very much possible 😀
15:22 Ankush Jain : he will do something which has never happened before
15:23 Viswas : how market will react in that case. possible outcome sir?
15:25 Viswas : another gapup tom?
15:27 Shai : no
15:27 Shai : 12094 supp into tom
15:27 Shai : may extend this one to 12200
15:28 Uttam : thanks All 🙂 have a lovely weekend
15:28 Shai : Bye all
15:28 Shai : have a nice evening
15:29 Aditya09 : bye all