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Room Chat
08:49 Vtrender Live : 5 min NF charts = https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/517316277
08:50 Ravi : gm all
08:50 Vtrender Live : 5 min BNF charts – https://zoom.us/j/94836261613
08:52 Chandrashekhar : GM all
08:56 Mayur P : Gm all
08:57 B. G. : Good morning!
08:58 Vishnu : gm all
08:59 Neeraj : Good Morning. First Day here after a long gap. Looking forward to trade with the best!
09:04 Uttam : Good Morning All 🙂
09:05 Uttam : https://vtrender.com/weekly-charts-03rd-to-07th-may-2021-and-market-profile-analysis/
09:05 Uttam : https://vtrender.com/market-profile-analysis-dated-07th-may-2021/
09:05 Shai : GM all
09:05 Rajesh G : GM all
09:05 Shai : wc back – (08:59) Neeraj : Good Morning. First Day here after a long gap. Looking forward to trade with the best!
09:05 Ankush Jain : GM all
09:06 Abhishek : Good morning everyone 😀
09:06 Rohan : GM All
09:06 Shai : we would be opening gap up above the balanced profile
09:06 Uttam : some new color scheme on the charts looks like 🙂
09:07 Shai : 14980 ref line for the open
09:07 Shai : 33413 ref line for the BNF
09:08 Shai : Any overnight shorts move SL from 14997 suggested to 15023 F for the open
09:08 Shai : we trade with the range for the first 5 min volumes
09:10 Uttam : some issues with the colors of the charts on webinato, anyone else having it or is it just me?
09:10 Rahul Goel : Hello all good morning
09:10 Rajan Modi : hehe, for all UG 🙂
09:10 Uttam : welcome back Neeraj – (08:59) Neeraj : Good Morning. First Day here after a long gap. Looking forward to trade with the best!
09:10 Rahul Goel : color has changed Uttam, I like it though
09:11 Surya ganti : i just noticed the volume bars on the MP chart on right
09:11 Mayur P : +1 Rahul
09:11 Uttam : it has nott changed as zoom & GoTo have the old colors
09:11 Uttam : some issue with webinato as remember once before also this had happened
09:11 Sanjib : No change in colour for me except the volume bars in profile chart
09:12 Ranjith : zoom charts not working for me
09:13 Nisha : GM All
09:15 Uttam : room charts fine now 🙂
09:19 Uttam : BNF no vols above Friday’s high looks like – all 0s
09:20 K2dt : also below avg vols in both right UG?
09:20 Uttam : yes typical OAOR looks like but lets wait for the first 15 mins
09:20 Uttam : if vols increase or maintain above 3-4k on 5min barsa
09:23 Siddharth : can everyone see room charts ?
09:24 Mayur P : room charts stuck
09:24 Uttam : yes charts are fine
09:24 Uttam : sorry stuck
09:25 Ashwin : goto gone as well
09:25 Ankush Jain : yes
09:25 Uttam : looksl ike GoTo casing the issue in webinatoa again
09:25 S M : goto session no longer exsists
09:25 Uttam : yes getting reset
09:25 Uttam : we would need to get back to joinme looks like for NF 5mins
09:27 Rahul : +1 ug agree
09:27 Vtrender Live : 5 min NF charts – https://join.me/vtrenderlive
09:27 Uttam : OAOR in both NF & BNF with volumes also lower than average
09:28 Siddharth : goto showing meeting id expired
09:28 Uttam : joineme link given for NF
09:28 Prashant : 2 simultaneous zoom sessions for nf and bnf not possible??
09:28 Ravi : says waiting for Vtrender to respond
09:29 Shai : Please use the new link for 5 min NF charts
09:29 KK : 15046
09:29 KK : ?
09:32 KK : bnf again weak , UG.. on those 0s ?
09:32 Uttam : sorry BNF is OAIR
09:32 Bhishma : bnf eoa?
09:32 Prashant : any chance of orr here?
09:34 Uttam : 33200 ref in BNF here
09:35 Uttam : weak below it
09:35 KK : 33114 ?
09:35 Surya ganti : POCs of previous bars at chiefs reference..
09:35 Shai : BNF opened in same range
09:38 Ankush Jain : riot of colors
09:40 Govind : FYI, expiry this week is on Wednesday due to Id
09:41 Uttam : yes Gov +1
09:42 Gopi : join me not connecting?
09:44 Ankush Jain : OAOR
09:45 Chandrashekhar : B here..small range in A
09:46 Shai : join me fine for all?
09:46 Uttam : yes woeking fine for me
09:46 Sunil : nope
09:46 Chandrashekhar : yes..join me good
09:46 Naresh : yes chief
09:46 Ashwin : join me working
09:46 Sunil : only a blank screen
09:46 Muralidhar Kaja : fine now
09:46 Shai : refresh if screen is blank
09:49 Ranjith : blank scrren after refreshin
09:49 Muralidhar Kaja : @Shai can you Zoom Down Room chatrsa bit
09:49 KK : like friday, NF balance, BNF weakish…
09:49 KK : Bandhan bank NPA higher, any relevance..rural covid spread..?
09:52 Shai : 14979 early selleers in the OF
09:52 Shai : can take it down to 14935
09:52 Jitender : were rural being recorded
09:52 Shai : sl 14979
09:53 KK : 33200 CE 374 to 347..let 33190 break further..VWAP ke around chal raha hai
09:53 KK : rural is all very high..stigma as well..vaccine dont believe in..numbers much higher as noone is getting tested there
09:54 Sanjay : How to minimise join me window popup?
09:54 Jitender : yes KK…
09:54 Shai : second set of sellers
09:55 Jitender : its incredible wats happening tere
09:55 Shai : 14959 trailing – (09:52) Shai : 14979 early selleers in the OF(09:52) Shai : can take it down to 14935(09:52) Shai : sl 14979
09:56 Prashant : KK, even rural kids get vaccinated…there is no healthcare in those areas, plain and simple..
09:56 Ankush Jain : Shai SL for overnight shorts still at 15023 F?
09:56 Shai : 33000 ref BNF
09:59 KK : VWAP magnet till C ?
10:00 Shai : set 3 sellers in NF awaited below 14925 roughly
10:00 Shai : can push it down to 14860 if red enters
10:01 Shai : 14935- 25 to watch on this vol which is low
10:01 KK : C will show 33040 today , if 33360 not crossed, Shai ?
10:02 Milind : Charts Stuck?
10:06 Sanjib : Both NF and BNF are behaving as if waiting for some news
10:10 Indronil : tsl gone ?
10:11 Milind : yes
10:11 KK : tsl of ?
10:11 Shai : hold
10:11 Uttam : BNF in a narrow range of 205 points
10:11 Milind : TSL of 14959 for nF
10:11 Milind : NF
10:11 Uttam : 33370 high as of now as no vols above it
10:12 Surya ganti : missed thqat call chief. can short now?
10:12 Ankush Jain : chrts are too compressed
10:12 Uttam : Friday’s high too plus VWAP of the last but last week
10:14 Indronil : shud we modify ?
10:14 Shai : exit now
10:15 Chandrashekhar : c begins
10:15 KK : bnf transition ?
10:15 Chandrashekhar : BNF has c side re
10:15 K2dt : bnf 3 IBs in a row
10:16 K2dt : but low vols
10:16 KK : fed ka kuch hai kya aaj ?
10:17 Uttam : BNF wants to test the morning 0s and freak high
10:17 Uttam : 33400 finally
10:18 Uttam : vPOC tagged
10:18 Uttam : can it go for the FA of 33599?
10:18 Uttam : vols increasing here
10:18 Sandesh : yes sir
10:18 Uttam : COT also big plus
10:19 MJ : I am watching combined MP chart of last 2 weeks in bnf https://mplite.vtrender.com/?symbol=BANKNIFTY&tf=weekly&tpo=18&ll=&ul=&sp=1&startDate=&endDate=&nDays=8&idstr=&dstr=3.5.4.4.10&rst=0&iam=
10:20 Uttam : 1000 green in BNF
10:20 Uttam : C side is on good vols
10:20 Uttam : but that 30min ref right here
10:20 KK : this is Vishnu BNF day
10:20 Uttam : needs to get above it
10:20 KK : 1000 points
10:21 KK : Ab C should not fail..
10:21 Chandrashekhar : 980 ref in NF not giving gate pass for an extn yet
10:21 Sanjib : BNF at Shai’s morning reference
10:21 MJ : ug A high what you taking?
10:22 MJ : bnf
10:25 Uttam : (10:11) Uttam : BNF in a narrow range of 205 points(10:11) Uttam : 33370 high as of now as no vols above it
10:25 MJ : Gracias sire.
10:26 Chandrashekhar : 980 smorning seller defending here??
10:26 Sujith Prabha : does that mean 1068 buyer stuck?
10:27 Chandrashekhar : NF i am seeing into..ne good greens in NF yet
10:28 KK : BNF , one jump upar to banta haiwith those many greens ?
10:29 MJ : 33420 two pocs have aligned there.
10:29 Surya ganti : almost 3
10:29 MJ : yes in 15 sec confirmation due/
10:30 MJ : 1015 Tbar low imp bnf.
10:33 Uttam : (10:20) Uttam : but that 30min ref right here(10:20) Uttam : needs to get above it
10:33 KK : lets go
10:33 Uttam : 33367 holding is good
10:35 KK : UG, more greens
10:35 KK : So 33700 in D , if C sustains ?
10:36 Prashant : bnf has a poor low though.
10:37 MJ : another 865
10:38 Rajesh G : bnf dpoc shifted
10:38 Rajesh G : ?
10:39 KK : next 6 minutes
10:45 Sanjib : D
10:45 KK : 408
10:47 Shai : OAOR nf
10:47 Shai : unlikely to do much
10:47 Shai : 14935- 15005
10:47 MJ : Sell straddle?
10:47 Sanjib : chart stuck?
10:50 KK : that 408 may get stuck, if we cross 450
10:51 MJ : watching that 15k combo.
10:55 Ranjith : zoom chart visible ???
10:55 Ashwin : join me, and room gone?
10:55 B. G. : Yessir. Sure looks like it.
10:55 Shai : 2 mins
10:56 Shai : doing a reset
11:02 Rajesh G : t
11:03 Govind : reds are slightly overpowering greens around the 14960/970 zone – worth noting that 14970 area was the VAH of the APR series. Nothing to do here for now
11:04 Uttam : 14925 RO point of Mat being defended
11:05 Uttam : May*
11:05 Uttam : was a vpoc also
11:05 Uttam : Friday it got abv 14811 & defended that
11:06 Uttam : spot 14962 PBH needs to be taken put
11:06 Vtrender Live : 5 min bnf charts – https://zoom.us/j/8647755698?pwd=U1FVY2NpUXIzZlVWKzc0azhORlNqQT09
11:06 S M : https://join.me/vtrenderlive# . . . Thi is not working
11:07 Jitender : +1 (11:03) Govind : reds are slightly overpowering greens around the 14960/970 zone – worth noting that 14970 area was the VAH of the APR series. Nothing to do here for now
11:07 MJ : Nice colour update on this url +1 Suyog https://mplite.vtrender.com/opchart/
11:08 Vtrender Live : 5 min NF charts – https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/449119413
11:10 Uttam : anyone for a DD?
11:12 Amit : DD up you mean or down?
11:14 Govind : only if they are separated by a 100 point singles zone 🙂
11:14 Govind : UG
11:15 Uttam : this needs to be taken out – (11:06) Uttam : spot 14962 PBH needs to be taken put
11:15 Govind : 54 point IB and OAIR, wonder what the post noon period is planning on doing
11:16 Govind : range is also shrinking slowly
11:17 Uttam : spot buying tail from 14904 which was the VPOC in it so based on A period singles & gap open PLR up but need a good RE
11:17 Uttam : G period when?
11:17 Govind : From May 3rd, along with volumes…11:16 Govind : range is also shrinking slowly
11:19 Sandip : Uttam, the COT mentioned here is cumilative? Or for the 5 min charts?
11:20 Uttam : 5 min S
11:20 Uttam : BN spot 33306 needs to be taken out
11:20 Uttam : abv it FA of 33455 & weekly vpoc of 33660
11:22 Govind : squeeze here Shai/Jit?
11:23 Sandip : Pink Dot in NF
11:23 Jitender : 33500 ce…has good OI gov…abv 450 ..it will attempt to clean them
11:23 Jitender : 450 Bnf zone
11:24 Jitender : 33800 probab in that scenario
11:24 Govind : ok gotcha, plenty of positions on both sides and 3-1-3 on Friday and balance this morning too
11:24 Jitender : but m waitn for it to unfold…
11:24 Govind : +1
11:24 Jitender : yh and 15k-15030 is anyways a resis zone
11:25 Ashwin : UG what does blue 317 buyer signify in NF?
11:25 Jitender : MJ has plantes 12421 in nf
11:26 Jitender : planted
11:26 Jitender : 1242
11:26 Shai : Buy 15000 PE at 123 sl of 111 tgt 160
11:27 Shai : firdt big player of the day at 14994
11:27 MJ : 🙂
11:27 Shai : 14971/ 14952 imm tgts sl of 15005
11:30 Uttam : spot did not make new highs in that swpie higher
11:34 B. G. : Appreciate the shift back to ‘gotomeeting’. Dang ‘join.me’ never worked too well for me.
11:35 Muralidhar Kaja : +100 (11:34) B. G. : Appreciate the shift back to ‘gotomeeting’. Dang ‘join.me’ never worked too well for me.
11:35 MJ : NF doing tug of war at those 0’s of last Tbar.
11:35 MJ : Baba you there?
11:38 Sunil : UG , how does small volume hold price when such LLT entered the opp side ?
11:39 Siddharth : how are we intepreting the 1242 LLT in nifty ?
11:39 Shai : exit the PE ar 121 cm,p- (11:26) Shai : Buy 15000 PE at 123 sl of 111 tgt 160
11:41 Prashant : now, any shorts only below vwap??
11:41 Uttam : that 1242 is no doubt a big red Sunil but it could also be a mix of order plus profit booking of longs too
11:41 Uttam : we are getting accepted there which means mostly old business
11:42 Shai : looks more of a cover order
11:42 Shai : hence out
11:42 Uttam : +1
11:42 Sunil : got it .. thnx 🙂
11:43 Shai : vwap won’t matter today- (11:41) Prashant : now, any shorts only below vwap??
11:43 Shai : shorts here have a SL strict at 15025
11:43 Shai : because it is a highe open, conservative will add shorts below 14935
11:46 Jitender : bingo…(11:24) Jitender : but m waitn for it to unfold…
11:46 Jitender : bnf sumtimes awards waitn also 🙂
11:47 Shai : +1
11:47 MJ : Yes jit 🙂 wating for an hour almost. since 875 entry.
11:47 Jitender : if 280 goes n sustains….fun can start MJ..just position accordingly
11:47 MJ : 865*
11:47 MJ : yes Jit.
11:48 MJ : (10:29) MJ : 33420 two pocs have aligned there.(10:37) MJ : another 865 Half out here on 542 arrival.
11:48 Jitender : +1
11:48 MJ : Sure jit. will watch.
11:48 MJ : thanks.
11:50 MJ : Pharma’s day out looks like.
11:51 KK : all those greens of C would need to get out below 280, Jit ?
11:53 Jitender : ys ..285-310 was morn sell zone in B
11:53 KK : tx
11:54 Uttam : BNF dPOC shifted to 33415 whihc means mornign longs booked out
11:54 Uttam : now that 542 red below vwap could get hurt
11:56 MJ : 14977.xx low of last Tbar. The IS couldn’t take it out(11:35) MJ : NF doing tug of war at those 0’s of last Tbar..
11:56 MJ : low vol IS
11:56 KK : he will survive, if 280 goes
12:09 Shai : Short NF 14986 sl op 15007 tgt 14937
12:09 Shai : we stay with this one for G
12:12 MJ : 206 + 542 right at your ref Jit.
12:12 KK : not going through
12:15 MJ : G is here.
12:15 MJ : Tsled bnf 50% out.
12:17 Rahul : needs reds
12:18 Anand : charts stuck
12:19 Uttam : charts are fine
12:19 MJ : 30 min upper lower nf now in 30 pt range.
12:24 Mayur P : BNF below 33280 should get weak?
12:25 Sandip : 4 day expiry week, things shift by an extra one hour to compensate for the holiday
12:26 Vishnu : shai 14560 still u expect if 15023 held
12:26 Vishnu : ?
12:26 MJ : @Sandip you mean 1 hour of extra grind everyday?
12:26 Sandip : Yes MJ
12:26 MJ : you mentioned this on thu too.
12:27 MJ : Okay esp in truncated weeks?
12:27 Sandip : Yes
12:27 MJ : thanks.
12:29 Shai : exit at cost 14986- (12:09) Shai : Short NF 14986 sl op 15007 tgt 14937
12:29 Shai : we wait for better vol
12:29 Shai : 300 contracts avg still
12:29 MJ : Sub 300 vols.
12:29 MJ : yeah.
12:29 KK : looks like they have sold PEs in BNF, and dont want to cover.
12:30 MJ : 33300 pe i am watching KK.
12:30 MJ : turned from vwap.
12:32 Neeraj : shai 14560 still u expect if 15023 held ?
12:33 Ravi : Shai..do you have to approve join me entry? i moved away for a while and when i want to be back…it says waiting for vtrender
12:33 Uttam : there is no joineme now Ravi we are back to GoTo & zoom
12:34 Uttam : links there in tab A
12:34 Ravi : thanks Uttam
12:34 Uttam : +1
12:34 Govind : NF zipping between 14980 to 995 for almost an hour, needs to break this
12:40 Chandrashekhar : G made new highs
12:40 MJ : 🙂
12:42 Uttam : 14962 spot aaya kya
12:42 Sandip : this should go higher now
12:42 Milind : 14954 spot, Uttam
12:42 Uttam : 957 new highs M
12:42 Uttam : 962 ko nakalo
12:43 KK : UG itni jidd kar rahe hain to
12:43 Uttam : lets have the DD guys
12:43 Uttam : right time for it
12:45 Uttam : (11:10) Uttam : anyone for a DD?(11:17) Uttam : spot buying tail from 14904 which was the VPOC in it so based on A period singles & gap open PLR up but need a good RE
12:45 Uttam : BNF not in sync though
12:46 Govind : 15005 is providing steady supply here
12:46 Uttam : yep ovalpping POC on 5mins
12:46 Uttam : 14959.95 new high of spor
12:46 Uttam : spot*
12:47 MJ : bnf non mover
12:47 Vishnu : it will mj seems 34400 on the wayyy
12:48 Uttam : (11:06) Uttam : spot 14962 PBH needs to be taken put
12:50 Sandip : NF being limited in this zone14990-15010
12:51 KK : bnf not leaving old habit
12:52 Sunil : now a poor high in NF
12:54 Chandrashekhar : no poor high in NF right?
12:54 Chandrashekhar : H is lower than G
12:55 Shai : Battle royale at 15000 F
12:56 Surya ganti : 1523 reds in bn?
12:56 Surya ganti : lol must be 152
12:56 Arjun : 152*
12:56 KK : really ?
12:56 Ankush Jain : anothe balanced day we are heading for?
12:56 Chandrashekhar : 152 it is??
12:56 Amit : sellers still in the game for val touch
12:56 MJ : 🙂 Nf closed above 15k on 12th march last Shai 🙂 2 month worth of effort at stake 🙂
12:56 Shai : No new positions
12:56 Shai : Let tghis resolve
12:56 MJ : Let them fight it out.
12:56 Govind : may the force be with them
12:56 Govind : 12:55 Shai : Battle royale at 15000 F
12:57 KK : Ab BNF ka downward ho gaya..
12:57 MJ : bnf has brain of her own.
12:57 Shai : imp zone for the NF writers this
12:58 Shai : will open up 15500 if they allow a pass here
12:58 Shai : hence
12:58 KK : now it should again rotate to support NF
12:58 Uttam : new ATH 🙂
12:59 Sandip : Bought low pes
12:59 Sandip : options not supporting upmove
13:00 Shai : cons short has to break 14970/ 14935 still
13:00 KK : UG, 962
13:00 Sandip : Yes true
13:00 Uttam : nikalo
13:00 Uttam : 14962 thodo
13:01 KK : todha
13:01 MJ : Jai mata di!
13:01 MJ : bnf come on now!
13:01 MJ : timepass nako.
13:01 KK : no pint looking at bnf now
13:02 KK : 15046 to banta hai..UG ?
13:03 Uttam : above 14962 next ref is that pos ref of 15052 in spot
13:03 Neeraj : since spot doesnt have volumes what exactly are you reading uttam?
13:03 Neeraj : there wouldnt be an order flow for that right?
13:04 Uttam : MP levels
13:04 Uttam : 15052 was a weekly FA
13:04 Neeraj : ok
13:04 Sandesh : @shai, check dm pls
13:05 KK : 15K PE stopped falling
13:05 Ankush Jain : 15000 not getting a pass
13:06 KK : yup
13:06 Shai : 82 ref level for 15000 ce shorts
13:06 Ankush Jain : 82 can be SL?
13:06 Shai : some one is reselleing at 75 that 15000 ce
13:07 Shai : 82 sl
13:07 Sandip : One Pink dot arnd 14990…..second jump up has -421 COT….third jump up has -301 COT……..and during the entire phase options have been grinding and pointing slightly down
13:07 Sandip : Unless 15020-30 Dosent break convincingly..well prolly just grind or head down slowly
13:08 Shai : yes no longs here
13:11 Sadees : chief, 143 SL for 14900 ce would be good?
13:12 Chandrashekhar : liquidation??
13:12 Shai : 52 tgt- (13:06) Shai : some one is reselleing at 75 that 15000 ce
13:12 Shai : he will add below 50
13:13 Rajan Modi : haha – u read vols and mind also?
13:13 Shai : Algo trades they are
13:14 Ankush Jain : holding the overnight 15000 ce
13:14 Shai : It’s easy to see what they can do next
13:14 Rajan Modi : _/\_
13:14 Shai : Short NF below 14973 sl fo 15007 tgt 14935/ 14900
13:15 Shai : we wait for this hevy zone to clear
13:15 MJ : DD plan cancel na?
13:15 Surya ganti : In the NF
13:15 MJ : or neeche ki side karde? 😛
13:15 Sandip : Nice
13:16 Surya ganti : just need a DD, which side does it matter 😀
13:16 Ankush Jain : in
13:16 Indronil : in
13:16 Sadees : 731 below DPOC in bnf
13:16 Ashwin : reverse of friday so far
13:16 Shai : All late longs whacked – (13:08) Shai : yes no longs here
13:16 Sandip : +1
13:16 Ankush Jain : +1
13:17 Ankush Jain : 15023 intact
13:17 Surya ganti : +1 ankush
13:17 Chandrashekhar : 731 reds @ lows in BNF….
13:17 Mayur P : Yes those 731 are late?
13:17 MJ : yes late guy.
13:17 Sandesh : @shai 33230.. out 🙂
13:18 MJ : @Sandesh! super bhai.
13:18 Indronil : to many random moves today, no gud trades yet in the entire day. but atleast no big losses
13:18 Surya ganti : same I
13:18 Sandip : +1 Sandesh
13:19 MJ : Cheers Sandip. On those pes.
13:19 Sandesh : _/\_
13:19 Sandip : Im still holding them from 110..Looking at Shais tgt of 14935
13:20 Shai : 15000 pe becomes a buy abv 136 can do 172 sl of 114
13:20 MJ : H period highs couldn’t cross the C period congestion zone. (10:29) MJ : 33420 two pocs have aligned there.
13:20 Shai : +1- (13:19) Sandip : Im still holding them from 110..Looking at Shais tgt of 14935
13:21 MJ : Now watching this (11:53) Jitender : ys ..285-310 was morn sell zone in B
13:22 MJ : Chief if writers want max juice extracted on truncated week, Bell profile is the ideal for them right?
13:30 Indronil : looks like bnf is in the driving seat
13:30 Shai : yes but we have a transition now
13:30 Shai : red transition lines dictate now
13:31 Sandip : Shai , you mean the horizontal red lines?
13:31 Shai : yes
13:31 Sandip : Thanks
13:33 Sandip : Another 30 mins grind?
13:34 Sandip : or 45 😀
13:37 Indronil : spot not crossing 14962 can invite selling pressure ? \
13:38 K2dt : MJ DOP ka kya krna hai bnf?
13:39 MJ : 🙂
13:40 Sadees : 199 got stuck in both nf and bnf?
13:40 Chandrashekhar : bnf wala 199 is safe,,he is a seller right?
13:41 MJ : That 970 is my zone to watch @kush in bnf.
13:41 MJ : 970 reds
13:41 Sadees : yup C.. that’s right..
13:42 K2dt : yes that was a sub-optimal bar..closing above POC ..also vpoc there…
13:42 MJ : Legit fight on as @Chief mentioned.
13:42 MJ : esp nf
13:43 K2dt : yupp..now back abv ibh
13:43 MJ : I am sitting with cold brew and popcorn.
13:43 MJ : Done for the day.
13:43 K2dt : +1
13:43 Milind : Do we see only locals fighting as vol are totally absent?
13:44 Bhishma : may be till K Locals
13:44 Shai : yes vol increased but gone down again
13:44 Vishnu : DD today?
13:45 KK : NF keeps trapping longs on each rise, bnf gives good 30 to 40 points on each fall on OTM CEs
13:45 Sandip : KK you mean for ce writing?
13:45 Indronil : here we wanted 30 points in our favour instead its about to kiss our sl.
13:45 KK : yup
13:50 Bhishma : DD matlab?
13:50 Amit : double distribution – is it only on short side?
13:50 Chandrashekhar : double distribution
13:50 KK : NF wants to break the lowest volume record of previous 4 days..
13:51 Surya ganti : lol
13:51 MJ : +1 sanjib (10:06) Sanjib : Both NF and BNF are behaving as if waiting for some news
13:52 Indronil : can we add some more shorts here keeping sl of 25007 ? or wait till 15k ce crosses 136 ?
13:52 Indronil : 15007*
13:52 Indronil : pe*
13:53 Uttam : vols needs to increase Indronil
13:53 Uttam : as low vols can give a swipe any direction
13:53 Uttam : that transistion bar being negated
13:53 Indronil : that i have noticed today
13:53 Chandrashekhar : 980 a HVN Uttam?
13:53 Uttam : so no fresh shorts
13:53 Indronil : ok
13:54 KK : is it that no demand here..FII saying bring your monkeys down for us to come in
13:54 Rajan Modi : never short dull markets
13:55 Uttam : yes C expiry day HVN it was I think
13:55 Surya ganti : 14995 3 POCs fight
13:55 Sadees : 4 POCs at 33300.. two more just above and below..
13:58 Chandrashekhar : 30 min upper ref here for NF
13:59 Chandrashekhar : BNF as well…
13:59 KK : bnf flag diya kya
13:59 Uttam : new hihg post 2:15 in both?
14:00 Gopi : possible ug
14:02 Sadees : 370 flag for BNF?
14:05 Mayur P : @Shai cover shorts here? or wait for J?
14:05 MJ : We are in J no?
14:05 MJ : You mean cover in K?
14:06 Mayur P : Sorry blurry I looked like J 🙂
14:06 Mayur P : I meant cover in K. volumes are dismal.
14:07 Shai : cover abv 15007
14:07 Mayur P : OK. SC can start if 15025 crossed?
14:10 Shai : possible
14:10 Shai : low volume market
14:10 KK : such low volume, most of the extensions are failing, unless some greens
14:11 Shai : 50L vol not done
14:11 Shai : value and volume mismatch
14:11 K2dt : yes not even 1/2 vol done if we consider avg
14:11 KK : we should boycott
14:11 Ankush Jain : yes Shai
14:11 K2dt : lool
14:11 Ankush Jain : Vols are too low
14:11 KK : chala lo khud hi
14:11 Uttam : Baba was saying bandh karo market 😉
14:11 Mayur P : lol
14:11 Sandesh : toh fir both FII and DII Covid +
14:11 Shai : lol
14:12 Sunil : i wonder what happens when No Margin rule kicks in
14:12 Uttam : Baba please activate one of your FII cells and get some vols into the close 😉
14:12 MJ : (10:47) Shai : OAOR nf(10:47) Shai : unlikely to do much(10:47) Shai : 14935- 15005(10:47) MJ : Sell straddle?
14:12 MJ : Chief told us way back (hint was to save emotional capital)
14:13 KK : low vlumes mein 500 point , they brought
14:15 Chandrashekhar : K here
14:15 Sandip : BnF Weaker than NF
14:16 Rahul : pm on tv in one mins
14:16 KK : J was 2 lac, K should try 1 lac 🙂
14:17 MJ : KK aisa mat bhai
14:17 MJ : 2k TBar incoing.
14:17 KK : modi ji aaye
14:17 MJ : incomming.
14:17 Shai : NF stopped
14:17 Shai : exit
14:18 MJ : 931 guy exited in two half? 370 + 600?
14:18 Rahul : chalu lolk
14:18 Uttam : (13:59) Uttam : new hihg post 2:15 in both?
14:18 KK : flag in bnf
14:18 Ashwin : any relevance to blue font in NF? 113
14:18 Uttam : NF done
14:18 MJ : Where Ash?
14:18 Rajan Modi : and high is 15023
14:19 MJ : +1 rajan, never short a dull…
14:19 Ashwin : i swear it was just there MJ (facepalm)
14:19 Sandip : Are charts stuck?
14:19 MJ : Maybe it got coloured by poc blue.
14:20 Neeraj : today nifty is making a normal day?
14:21 Ashwin : makes sense MJ. will check in the screenshots this evening. there was one earlier as well
14:21 Uttam : 15023 tag done in NF
14:21 Uttam : 1.5 IB also
14:25 KK : now it has to go below 990 ?
14:27 Surya ganti : gone bellow 990
14:28 MJ : Kush sellers below bnf dop.
14:29 Chandrashekhar : 960-950 zone has been providing support….need more vol to break below
14:29 MJ : unko aap sambhalo.
14:29 KK : 33200 CE 350 to 306 holding.
14:29 KK : BNF flag was prominent
14:30 Sandip : KK which bnf flag?
14:30 KK : 686
14:31 Sandip : Time?
14:31 Mayur P : 14.15
14:31 MJ : 324 red @KK
14:31 KK : I meant the green on top
14:32 MJ : @Sandip upside down guys have got new term aka Flag.
14:32 Sandesh : @ug33500 next week CE in @ 480
14:32 Sandip : Oh ok just saw in the goto link..Thanks
14:34 KK : there was a comment about PM address in the room, or I read it wrongly ?
14:34 Mayur P : Another extension failure in NF. Can we get that 14935 now?
14:34 Sandesh : is he giving any package? @shai?
14:35 KK : probably will wait for that 15K PE to cross 126
14:35 Mayur P : liquidation can start below vwap?
14:35 Mayur P : +1 (14:35) KK : probably will wait for that 15K PE to cross 126
14:36 Ashwin : @MJ 43 buyer at 14992 at 14:25. and also 40 buyer at 14995 at 14:10
14:37 K2dt : someone wake up 2 elephants…ril and hdfcb
14:38 MJ : @ash you talking about printed in blue?
14:38 Ashwin : yes MJ
14:39 Govind : NF 50 should be trimmed down to NF 25 or something…too much dead weight
14:39 Ashwin : was just wondering if there’s any significance like the pinks and the greens
14:39 Uttam : they are triming the lot size from 75 to 50 Gov if that helps 😉
14:40 Govind : they highlight imbalances. 14:39 Ashwin : was just wondering if there’s any significance like the pinks and the greens
14:40 MJ : Check with UG @Ash.
14:40 MJ : Though the ones in green and pink are the ones we must really look out for.
14:40 Ashwin : blue Govind?
14:40 MJ : 40 lot in blue @Gov?
14:40 Govind : Ok UG, saw that a while ago…14:39 Uttam : they are triming the lot size from 75 to 50 Gov if that helps 😉
14:41 Govind : where MJ?
14:41 Govind : price?
14:41 MJ : 40 lots 1410 candle
14:41 Sandip : When is this Trimm expected Uttam?
14:41 MJ : Gov (14:36) Ashwin : @MJ 43 buyer at 14992 at 14:25. and also 40 buyer at 14995 at 14:10
14:42 Sanjib : July contract onwards (14:41) Sandip : When is this Trimm expected Uttam?
14:42 Arjun : what is trimm ?
14:42 Uttam : yes July weekly options will be 75 only and the monthly one would be 50
14:42 Govind : Don’t know MJ, but what do we care about 40 lots anyway 🙂
14:43 Arjun : ok got it.
14:43 MJ : Ash’s comment, why is it in blue 🙂
14:43 MJ : he’s trying to find it.
14:43 Arjun : trimming of lot size *
14:43 Govind : no idea, only Shai would know
14:43 Govind : I think it highlights the other side of the IMB, if I am not mistaken
14:43 MJ : @ash, watchout for imbalances other nos really don’t matter. Nor do I look for them.
14:44 Govind : 155 vs 40 and also a87 vs 44
14:44 Govind : 187*
14:44 MJ : 51 vs 45 too happened current bar.
14:44 Ashwin : yeah MJ, i’m relying heavily on the pinks and greens and their location these days. almost exclusively! 🙂
14:46 Govind : real crappy PA today and one more day of lower volumes. Going home barely in the green but that is ok. 11:17 Govind : From May 3rd, along with volumes…11:16 Govind : range is also shrinking slowly
14:46 Sanjib : Don’t remember any similar dull trading day before (except 1st Jan)
14:47 Sandip : I remember these kind of days all through April. Only thing is they were grinding options with 50-60 points up/down moves
14:47 Sandip : Today is the slow grind
14:48 MJ : just 25 in 15k combo post c
14:48 Uttam : blue color means small size with respect to the respective buyer or seller
14:48 Shai : It’s a swing zone hence
14:48 Govind : April daily range was much larger. so gave ample opps to take at least 1 to 1.5R trades
14:48 Shai : unfortunately OTF stayed out and waited to see what locals did here
14:48 Uttam : you would see when you have a geeen or pink against that we get the blue in opposite side
14:48 Sandip : Yes Govind true that
14:49 Shai : OTF presence here would have meant easy trades
14:49 Ankush Jain : SHAI CARRY SHORT CALLS?
14:49 Shai : no
14:49 Shai : stay out of new
14:49 Sandesh : +1
14:49 Shai : only old mamange at 15023
14:49 Ankush Jain : old carry from Friday
14:50 Ashwin : thanks UG. so 45:211
14:50 MJ : chief 15k close here? combo?
14:50 Shai : 15025 sl into tom
14:50 MJ : shreds 25
14:50 Sanjib : Yes I have 14800 PE Monthly at 251 (CMP 172)
14:50 MJ : take it home?
14:50 Shai : low volume profile in NF
14:50 Sanjib : from Friday…let’s see if it can turn into green this week
14:50 Ankush Jain : small range day with a gaussian bell
14:51 Shai : best to wait for a move out and take fresh exposure
14:51 MJ : okay bossman.
14:51 KK : 306
14:53 Sandip : Lets see what happens at MIS cutoff timings…3-3.20
14:53 Chandrashekhar : seeing some 3000 lot buy order sitting @ 970 for NF since a long….in Kite
14:53 Chandrashekhar : anyone esle see the same??
14:53 Chandrashekhar : qty*
14:54 Rahul : 3600
14:54 Chandrashekhar : yes
14:54 Ashwin : yes C, 3600 now
14:54 Sandip : Some profit booking pending in NF
14:54 Chandrashekhar : unless thats executed..has no significance for us..but just an observation
14:55 KK : NF needs to go back up, if they want to erode those PEs
14:56 Bhishma : can erode naturally tomorrow open too KK : NF needs to go back up, if they want to erode those PEs
14:56 Bhishma : DTE will be 1 tomorrow
14:58 Shai : +1- (14:54) Chandrashekhar : unless thats executed..has no significance for us..but just an observation
14:58 Shai : THis- (14:53) Chandrashekhar : seeing some 3000 lot buy order sitting @ 970 for NF since a long….in Kite
14:59 Surya ganti : 1050 AT 971
14:59 Shai : when the money goes in with the order, the heart beats differently and the universe changes , else it is juts an opinion
14:59 Uttam : nice balance in both with higher Value and after a good upmove so bright chances of an island reversal tom
14:59 Shai : go always with traded volumes as they are the ones who shake it up
14:59 Sandip : +1 Shai
14:59 MJ : Shai there are those bid ask algos too
15:00 MJ : else how will kamat and other data providers sell 20 depth data bla bla?
15:00 Shai : PE’s moving
15:00 Uttam : giving a NEuX Shai 😉
15:00 MJ : 15001 close chaiye UG.
15:00 Tejpreet : Tks Uttam you mentioned it first 🙂
15:00 Shai : no volume to maove it
15:00 Uttam : again Tej 😉
15:00 Shai : we take a fresh view tom
15:01 Uttam : yes no vols
15:01 Chandrashekhar : Vwap bounce in this candle
15:01 Uttam : tom should give a clear indication for rest of the week
15:01 Chandrashekhar : +1
15:03 Uttam : 3 more mins to know if we get a NeuX or not 😉
15:03 Sandip : A similar scenario has happenned near April 6,7,8,9,12
15:03 Indronil : something is up ?
15:03 Uttam : probable weekly FA also in place in NF with a narrow range
15:04 Sandip : Near 15k levels…then crack down
15:05 Chandrashekhar : no 3:05 move as well:(
15:05 Indronil : this time it looks to stay and break 15k. or else y 15 k pe writting is happening before price has reached der
15:06 Uttam : prominent POC at 14980 in NF
15:06 Uttam : 33300 in BNF
15:06 Uttam : lets have a good open tom
15:13 Sandip : green dot in nf?
15:14 Tejpreet : All IS booking out
15:14 Uttam : 1159 green
15:14 Surya ganti : looks like RB
15:14 Sandip : that pink guy out looks like?
15:14 Uttam : yes khaya peeya sab kuch aur book bhi kar diye
15:14 Surya ganti : had a morning NF seller, cud be him?
15:14 Gopi : ug planning gap ?
15:14 Govind : 14985 keeps absorbing offers
15:14 Uttam : no gap will be good Gopi
15:15 Uttam : move away from this balance on initiative vols needed
15:15 Sandip : lol Uttam
15:15 Chandrashekhar : +1..OD..(15:14) Uttam : no gap will be good Gopi
15:15 Govind : I’ve almost forgotten what an OD feels like
15:15 Uttam : and then an ideal Trend Day 😉
15:16 Sanjib : 🙂 (15:15) Govind : I’ve almost forgotten what an OD feels like
15:16 Uttam : good closein the PEs though
15:16 Uttam : that 15kce seller could get his exit of 52
15:16 Surya ganti : late action
15:17 Chandrashekhar : eager to see if we get 970 now….to heck the order sitting
15:17 Chandrashekhar : check*
15:17 Uttam : open below 14939 will conrirm weekly FA
15:18 Sandip : Out at 125
15:18 Uttam : +1 Sandip
15:18 Sandip : 15 points …what a supremely boring day lol
15:18 Uttam : 15 is good for today
15:19 Sandip : I will be depressed though if we open lower tomorrow by 70-80 points
15:19 Sandip : Because then they waill bait a little lower and grind again full day 😀
15:19 Uttam : lol but not worth to carry the PEs unless you have made that much profit and booked 50%
15:19 Sandip : True
15:19 Sandip : Not worth it
15:20 Sanjib : agonizing day coming to an end …phew
15:20 Uttam : 3rd day of a narrow range with higher Value
15:20 KK : bnf getting angry
15:20 Neeraj : so a trend day in the offing?
15:20 KK : close at vwap
15:21 Sanjib : 15000 is a BRN
15:21 Sanjib : will need some effort to cross and sustain
15:21 Chandrashekhar : BRN is big round Number??
15:21 Sanjib : Yes
15:21 Surya ganti : yes C
15:21 Chandrashekhar : thanks
15:25 Sandip : FII?PRo positions also dont look too confident after a weird April month
15:27 MJ : bnf be like usko touch kon kina rey….
15:27 MJ : (insert kabir singh music)
15:28 Surya ganti : vwap bachaao yojana in both
15:29 Shai : tc everyone
15:29 Sandip : TC guys , seeya tomorrow
15:29 Shai : have a good evening
15:29 Surya ganti : bye
15:29 Uttam : thanks All 🙂 have a lovely eveniing