Order Flow charts dated 11th July

When we think about how to measure volume in the market one of the keys is Order Flow. It plays a role by telling us what the other traders have done in the market and are currently doing and this provides valuable clues and potential opportunities to trade.

An Order Flow trader can actually see exactly what is happening in the market as it happens. Once you are able to understand what is happening in the present, you are able to make far better decisions about what might happen in the future. Order Flow provides traders with vision into market activity.

NF

30 Min Fp Nf 8 Order Flow Charts Dated 11Th July Banknifty Futures, Day Trading, Intraday Trading, Intraday Trading Strategies, Nifty Futures, Order Flow Analysis, Support And Resistance, Trading Strategies, Volume Profile Trading


BNF

30 Min Bnf Bid 8 Order Flow Charts Dated 11Th July Banknifty Futures, Day Trading, Intraday Trading, Intraday Trading Strategies, Nifty Futures, Order Flow Analysis, Support And Resistance, Trading Strategies, Volume Profile Trading


Room Chat

09:33 Shai : (09:32) Shai : Inra- Buy NF 11538 sl of 11506 tgt 11590

09:52 Shai : (09:52) Shai : NF at 11558. Book half here and ride some at cost

10:00 Shai : (10:00) Shai : NF – 11568- Book fully the longs

12:05 Shai : (12:05) Shai : Intra – Buy BNF 30675-79 sl of 30599 tgt 30750

12:09 Shai : (12:09) Shai : Exit the BNF trade at 30696 here cmp

12:30 Shai : Buy 30700 call at 62 sl of 34 tgt 119

12:41 Shai : (12:41) Shai : Place exit orders to execute at 62 in the 30700 call. we will exit at cost . cmp 58. can exit here also

13:19 Shai : Intra – Buy BNF 30690 sl fo 30610 tgt 30770

13:40 Shai : BNF 30730 . book half here and ride some at cost

13:45 Shai : (13:45) Shai : Book the BNF fully at 30736 cmp

14:47 Shai : (14:46) Shai : Intra – Buy NF 11599 sl of 11571 tgt 11635

15:12 Shai : exit the NF at 11586


09:07 Shai : GM all
09:07 Shai : https://vtrender.in/market-profile-analysis-dated-10th-july/
09:08 Anubhav null : gm
09:08 Clinton : gm
09:08 Lovepreet : Good Morning Everyone
09:08 Anubhav null : ?open drive expected today
09:10 Shai : how you guys doing today after the game?
09:11 Shai : less spoken – the better
09:11 Govind : Cant wait for the next edition
09:11 Shai : Let’s continue with Life πŸ™‚
09:11 TP : GM All.
09:11 Shibu null : GM to all
09:11 TP : Chief was heartbreaking post that Dhoni Jaddu Magicc !!
09:12 Thanika : GM all
09:12 Shibu null : The game should continue until the end
09:16 Shai : 11552- 30700 is the level to watch for more upsides
09:17 Shai : donlt be very bullish till we have good trade abv that
09:18 TP : Shai BN support for this open.
09:18 Shai : 30510
09:18 TP : tks
09:19 Sandip : aww damit..should have held on to those ces at 110
09:19 Sandip : now 200
09:19 Sandip : high
09:20 Shubro : hindsight bro
09:20 Sandip : Gm All
09:30 Thanika : cash volume flow is not so great
09:31 Uttam : Good Morning All πŸ™‚
09:32 Uttam : that BNF move whihc was expected yesterday at close came in the morning in form of a gap up
09:32 Anubhav null : 11600 coming uttam?
09:32 Shai : Inra- Buy NF 11538 sl of 11506 tgt 11590
09:32 Uttam : (09:19) Sandip : aww damit..should have held on to those ces at 110…Sandip next time look to enter next week’s CEs if they are liquid so that you do not lose out on the premium much if opens around prev days close on a thursday
09:42 Sandip : Yes Uttam, correct
09:43 Sandip : BNf looking weak here for a test of 550?
09:45 Anubhav null : 11520 nf upport
09:45 Anubhav null : if hold we can move up
09:51 Anubhav null : nice
09:52 Shai : NF at 11558. Book half here and ride some at cost
09:52 TP : +1
09:52 Uttam : +1 Shai
09:54 Uttam : 11540 sup now in NF Shai?
09:54 Anubhav null : πŸ™‚
09:55 Shai : 11537 is
09:55 Shai : same level as yesterday found no sellers
09:55 Uttam : NF needs to get above 11565
09:55 Himanshu : Chief
09:55 Uttam : 2 day comp VAH
09:56 Himanshu : can we go long here at 11537 – F
09:56 Shai : can
09:56 Himanshu : Looking at COt and FII data – they are still noy covering
09:56 Shai : 11507 shoud hold all day
09:56 Himanshu : selling in cash segment
09:56 Himanshu : is dobout here,,,
09:57 Himanshu : ok
09:57 Uttam : 11550pe OI rising
09:57 Shai : NF looking better than BNF today on this COT
09:57 Thanika : +1 Shai
09:58 Uttam : intersting thing yesterday was while that FA was visited in NF, spot FA of 11461 was intact as Nifty did not make lower low
09:58 Sandip : Sold low at 30685
09:59 Uttam : 14k green in BNF
09:59 Uttam : initiative buyer?
09:59 Uttam : morning supply needs to be taken out in BNF though
09:59 Sandip : Short covering Uttam
10:00 Uttam : boom boom coming looks like
10:00 Sandip : bnf shouldnt head over 760 though
10:00 Shai : NF – 11568- Book fully the longs
10:00 Ravi : Nice call shai
10:01 Sandip : +1 Shai
10:02 Uttam : (09:59) Uttam : morning supply needs to be taken out in BNF though…still resisting
10:02 Uttam : needs to stay above 30712 BNF
10:03 Uttam : POC of this 30min bar moving higher
10:03 Uttam : same in NF too
10:03 Uttam : RS prompting that full booking in NF Shai?
10:04 Uttam : a) NF needs to stay above 11510 for a test of 11530-553 & 11570
10:04 Uttam : NF did this hypo to the dot
10:04 Uttam : a) BNF needs to stay above 30527 for a move higher to 30595-635 & 30680-712
10:04 Uttam : BNF exceeded by 6 points though
10:12 Anubhav null : anyone for exp above 11600?
10:13 Uttam : let NF take out 11570 first for that
10:13 Uttam : then those poor highs of 11594 come into play
10:13 Uttam : above that we can have 11624-635
10:13 Rushabh : 11595 is tough zone
10:14 Anubhav null : thnx
10:14 Anubhav null : have sold calls thts y asking
10:16 Anubhav null : vix falling again
10:16 Anubhav null : cud this be a trend day?
10:22 Uttam : BNF givign a vwap test
10:23 Amit : last 3 canldle showing nifty poised to break days low
10:23 Govind : both trading in the value area of the 2-day comp
10:23 Govind : near the VAH
10:25 Himanshu : Govind in MP charts – in bracket figures are no of contracts traded at the price ?
10:26 Govind : I think that is the total no of shares Himanshu
10:27 Govind : Suyog or Uttam may have to confirm
10:32 Govind : Suyog just confirmed that they are number of contracts Himanshu, not shares
10:36 Uttam : BNF only 119 point IB & NF just 42
10:36 Uttam : Tej iraada kya hai
10:36 Amit : How much time we need to take finding IB
10:37 Uttam : BNF had same open of 30699 yesterday and today
10:37 Sandip : out of bnf at cosy
10:37 Sandip : cost*
10:37 Uttam : IB = Inital Balance = first hour Amit
10:37 Amit : OK
10:37 TP : Uttam would prefer within IB whole day as will leave early today πŸ™‚
10:37 MJ : TP 118 pt range. No ya.
10:37 MJ : πŸ™‚
10:38 Uttam : lol Tej itne selfish ;-p
10:38 TP : πŸ™‚
10:38 TP : But seriously don’t see much in expiry move today.
10:39 Uttam : yes same here Tej as Shai alreayd said yesterday do not see a big move as weekly ‘b’ forming
10:39 TP : +1
10:39 TP : Vix already down 5%
10:39 Uttam : NF can go max to 11594 if makes an RE up
10:40 Amit : vix falllen by 7.5%
10:40 Amit : 11600ce hold max Oi, so its getting shorted heavily
10:41 Maheshwar : nifty likely to touch 11500
10:41 MJ : Uttam
10:41 MJ : M period closing COT yest was around 16275
10:42 MJ : In this we are seeing -223950
10:43 MJ : Day COT for close.
10:43 Rushabh : yh did it change?
10:44 Sandip : bought PE’s in bnf as they are safer
10:44 Sandip : 30700 at 90 lesee
10:46 TP : too cheap that 307k , no premium to spot so early in the day.
10:46 Ravi : Uttam is poor highs going to get repiared in NF?
10:47 Sandip : yes TP thats y I bought low quant
10:48 TP : even 306k combo just 105 , not even .5 % bn move being factored
10:48 Shubro : Sandip q: why not buy 30600 PE?
10:48 Shubro : because of the gamma risk?
10:49 TP : sorry 145 for 306k
10:51 Sandip : because 30600 pe is already being written..and plus maxx pain might end up between 500-600…..also like TP pointed out the premium in 30700PE is less..which is good for me
10:51 Sandip : considering a move to 30580-550..happens , i should get 90-135-150 points in that PE
10:52 Sandip : Also for the day..PE writing in 30600 is double that of 30700
10:54 TP : +1 sandip 92 to 108 on that
10:54 Uttam : nice Sandip
10:55 Uttam : BNF both CE & PE below yVWAP and were also below today’s vwap till this 30700pe gave a move up
10:55 MJ : Sandip once you are in any option trade, you match oi of bnf and the option strike that you are in?
10:55 MJ : nice trade that 30700 πŸ™‚
10:55 Sandip : Thanks, but im holding for now
10:55 Uttam : huge OI in CE of 30700 so that adds to conviction for PE Sandip?
10:56 Uttam : and OI still moving higher
10:57 Sandip : Yes Uttam finally
10:57 Sandip : Not reaally MJ, I take into account a good place to enter any side…then review which options are risky as per Writing and OI and avoid them…buy the low risk ones
10:59 MJ : Okay so when you have your observations on OI and OF together on the big trades that come in, what do you watch from oi per say?
11:02 Sandip : Ill paste in general for now
11:03 MJ : Thanks man. πŸ™‚
11:06 Sandip : random srry
11:10 Shubro : Sandip many thanks for the view appreciate taking time
11:11 Thanika : +1 lovely Sandip!
11:11 MJ : Thanks Sandip πŸ™‚
11:11 MJ : Imma gonna bug you with OI πŸ™‚ weaker subject for me.
11:11 MJ : Nicely put down.
11:14 Sandip : No worries MJ its fairly simple
11:14 Sandip : Thanks Thanika
11:15 Shubro : yes the logic is clear Sandip
11:15 Shubro : i was aware but wasnt using it to make the right choice of strike selection
11:15 Shubro : thus helps a lot many thanks
11:16 Sandip : Sure Shubro, GL
11:18 Uttam : super guys πŸ™‚ that is what we are all here for to help each other & grow together
11:18 Shubro : 80 % rule BNF Uttam?
11:18 Shubro : keep it coming guys wonderful team here
11:19 Shubro : Govind around?
11:19 Govind : Yo
11:19 Sandip : Ill be super happy if YPOC hits also πŸ™‚
11:19 Shubro : all well Gov?
11:20 Shubro : wont we all Sandip haha
11:20 Govind : Yeah man, all well. Some realtives visiting so a bit distracted. Have been watching and trading quietly
11:20 Shubro : scuba gear n
11:20 Shubro : same down with a nasty flu for a week struggling to stay awake
11:20 Shubro : haha but better
11:20 Govind : yikes
11:21 Govind : flu vs relatives, hmm trying to decide
11:21 Shubro : hahahha
11:21 Govind : with the flu at least I am forced to rest up
11:22 Shubro : BNF stready NF thrashing around
11:25 Shubro : sandip so on the logic you gave the reason its safer for 30700 is that the PE value will also be less volatile ?
11:25 Anubhav null : demand at vwap
11:25 Anubhav null : above 11570 boom boom
11:28 Sandip : bnf also above 720 boom boom
11:29 Sandip : but hopefully ce writers will make bnf behave
11:30 Shubro : that 30600 tilted ?
11:30 Shubro : in favor of longs?
11:35 Himanshu : Where is this Random channel in Slack
11:36 Himanshu : I seems to be not getting it – Govind – Sandip – Uttam can hep
11:36 Govind : https://vtrender.slack.com/archives/C0F2VRTPW/p1562823320024800
11:36 Uttam : search in channels Himanshu you will get it
11:37 Uttam : and then you can join
11:37 Uttam : else will force you to join πŸ˜‰
11:37 MJ : vwap acceptence and mb above it.
11:37 MJ : Wishful thinking πŸ™‚
11:38 Anubhav null : mj beast mode lao aaj uttam ke saath mil ke
11:38 TP : Just got a call from WISDOM Capital , intra NF option selling margin around 5k !!!
11:39 Shubro : woah TP reallllly?
11:39 Uttam : wow Tej voles are less today so take it up and sell kardo 100 lots πŸ˜‰
11:39 Anubhav null : for exp daily only i think
11:39 TP : strange….will check again
11:40 Anubhav null : day
11:40 Uttam : bechare retail aise hi khatm hote rahenge as only they will go in for these offers
11:40 MJ : just waitng for side break anubhav. Nothing big till then. πŸ™‚ Tp anyways have ordered to stay within the range.
11:40 Shubro : Sandip (11:25) Shubro : sandip so on the logic you gave the reason its safer for 30700 is that the PE value will also be less volatile ?
11:40 TP : Intra 5k sl is around 60 odd points which is decent.
11:41 Anubhav null : hmmm break will hapen soon
11:41 Anubhav null : exp day prediction is always difficlt
11:43 Himanshu : Uttam – Govind can’t find this link in browse channel
11:44 Anubhav null : oi giving any hints uttam?
11:44 Govind : HImanshu, I will DM you
11:44 Himanshu : I have found – gold and joined it ( Random channel)
11:45 Himanshu : Gyanpith
11:45 Govind : Nice
11:45 Uttam : super Himanshu
11:45 Shubro : puts wrting increasing slowly
11:45 Govind : Congrats
11:45 Sandip : No Shubro, there is writing at 30600PE…so , we dont really know whether those guys will exit or not..or till what extent…..but the writing in 30700PE is half that of 30600PE and current max pain is at 30600..so its a safer bet that way
11:45 Himanshu : Govind thanks ( I was seraching in ESPN CRIC INFO)
11:45 Govind : Haha, still hungover about the match I see
11:45 Uttam : world cup ho gaya sirji
11:46 Himanshu : Yaar – my FB and Whats up #
11:46 Himanshu : am tired of defending MSD
11:46 Himanshu : All naysayers are after his life..
11:46 Shubro : right Sandip good insight
11:47 Shubro : i was comparing apples vs papayas …PE writing at 600 with CE writing at 700
11:47 Sandip : πŸ™‚
11:48 Shubro : i blame the flu
11:48 Govind : πŸ™‚
11:48 MJ : *sends irani chai for shubro
11:48 MJ : Get well mate.
11:48 Sandip : Uttam, how does NF look options wise?
11:48 Govind : Mini MB in the BNF MB chart Shubro, let’s see if something happens
11:49 Shubro : thanks MJ man!
11:49 Shubro : ok Govind eyes peeled with cello tape
11:49 TP : another call 2500 per lot now , thnexttrade……..Jit in room maybe he can tell them some gyan on selling options at 2500 margin πŸ™‚
11:49 Uttam : @Sandip looks like 11550 combo headed to single digits today
11:50 Shubro : sounds liek they will take money and close shop next day man TP
11:50 TP : haha
11:50 Shubro : one of those too good to be true
11:51 Sandip : Yes Uttam..so 20 points above below swing I assume
11:52 Uttam : right now that combo is 35 and both are making lower highs since morning
11:54 Sandip : ok good so mass grind is on
11:56 Uttam : yep as Tej ordered for it in the morning itself
11:56 TP : still in IB πŸ™‚
11:57 MJ : TP neend aara hai abhi. Please do something.
11:57 TP : Should i give your number to Indore guys πŸ™‚
11:57 Himanshu : Listen Lata Venketsh
11:57 Uttam : lol Tej
11:58 Uttam : MJ would be on their top of the list already
11:58 Himanshu : Haha ( Indore ) – to stop those calls – Once I entered into 30 mt long discussion
11:58 Himanshu : and introduce my self as Whole sale Veg merchant – and started explaining the guy#
11:58 MJ : Bas na TP.
11:58 Himanshu : Margins in Potato and Onion contracts – so seriously that –
11:59 Himanshu : every time he tries to intervene me – I will bring back topic to Onion and potato
12:00 Himanshu : finally he gave up – then I told him pls note my number and spread acrros your company – as I am opening advisory on Veg _Comex etc and will start calling all your clients and stafff
12:00 Shubro : hehehe
12:00 Himanshu : till date – and then I have not recd any call
12:00 MJ : Govind πŸ™‚ mb
12:00 Govind : Yeah MJ, leaving it now
12:01 Shubro : Sandip your view on the 700 PE negated when?
12:01 Shubro : 30700 PE*
12:01 Shubro : exit strategy based on the same model
12:01 Sandip : below 70
12:01 Uttam : 11550ce shoting some move
12:01 Uttam : but OI needs to start coming down
12:01 Uttam : and needs tocsustain above 25
12:02 Uttam : 26L OI in CE & 25L in PE
12:02 Shubro : so 20 point SL if bought at 90 something
12:04 Uttam : looks like 11550ce headed for 33-40
12:04 Sandip : yep 20 for now
12:04 Uttam : boom
12:05 Shai : Intra – Buy BNF 30675-79 sl of 30599 tgt 30750
12:05 Uttam : (12:01) Uttam : 11550ce shoting some move(12:01) Uttam : but OI needs to start coming down(12:01) Uttam : and needs tocsustain above 25(12:04) Uttam : looks like 11550ce headed for 33-40
12:06 Uttam : OI coming down in that CE
12:06 Uttam : aling with increase in PE OI
12:06 Himanshu : 2 HR chart says – if we do not break 30572 tody in Spot – then we are safe.. can trigger short covering
12:06 MJ : Thanks Shai for the update @Rushab now it is matching the blog screenshot (10:41) MJ : M period closing COT yest was around 16275(10:42) MJ : In this we are seeing -223950(10:43) MJ : Day COT for close.(10:43) Rushabh : yh did it change?
12:07 Shai : 30500 ce headed to 236
12:07 Himanshu : Above 30776 – rocket
12:07 Uttam : (12:04) Uttam : looks like 11550ce headed for 33-40
12:07 Uttam : 31.55 high so far
12:07 Rajiv : Heavy sell volumes not able to bring down price!!
12:08 Uttam : more coming looks like
12:08 Uttam : 11594 test coming?
12:09 Shai : Exit the BNF trade at 30696 here cmp
12:09 Uttam : huge reds here though
12:09 Uttam : 1L guy on top
12:09 Sumit : 1 lkhs red
12:09 Uttam : -1.4L COT on 5mins in NF
12:09 Shai : yes
12:09 Shai : supply adding
12:11 MJ : that 1.5L guy from yest booking profits?
12:13 Sandip : bnf that 22 k guy is short cover
12:16 Sandip : im out of that PE at 78
12:17 Uttam : that 11550ce still has legs
12:17 Uttam : low made in this dip 25.1
12:17 Uttam : boom boom again?
12:17 MJ : 50k out
12:17 MJ : bnf
12:17 Sandip : yep
12:17 MJ : So am i
12:18 Sandip : That PE down to 54from 78
12:18 MJ : (11:37) MJ : vwap acceptence and mb above it.(11:37) MJ : Wishful thinking πŸ™‚
12:18 Sandip : srry 62
12:18 Shubro : o teri what are these zeros in bnf?
12:20 Anubhav : NICE
12:20 Uttam : 32.55 on that 11550ce
12:21 MJ : πŸ™‚
12:21 MJ : Nice uttam.
12:22 Ravi : Uttam has upside done in BNF? sellers 46k with 0’s on top
12:22 Sandip : +1 Uttam
12:22 Anubhav : im out
12:24 Uttam : @Ravi need to see what the next bars do, 0s do mean end of auction of that leg but if its just a long booking out then we could continue to rise on new demand
12:24 Ravi : ok.Tq Uttam
12:25 Sandip : 30700CE looses some OI
12:27 Thanika : i think, one more visit to the DLO will be there to take out lower stops in BNF
12:27 Shubro : yes looks like
12:28 Shubro : stop hunts on
12:28 Shubro : 630
12:28 Uttam : 11550pe OI abo 30L now
12:28 Shubro : val low anyways
12:29 Uttam : CE OI down to 23.4L
12:30 Sandip : by the way
12:30 Shai : Buy 30700 call at 62 sl of 34 tgt 119
12:31 Sandip : There is a really good website called www.niftytrader.in which you can get to see the NF and BNF options OI update every 5 mins I guess..
12:32 Uttam : 11550pe being wrtten away to glory
12:32 Uttam : 11550ce made new high of 32.75 but still missed that 33
12:32 TP : Bye all , Have a fab expiry .
12:33 Sandip : looks like this is the first move away from maxx pain
12:33 Uttam : take care Tej
12:33 Shubro : bye tej
12:35 Sandip : got some of Shais call at 54
12:36 Sandip : looks like 30700CE writers under pressure first
12:39 Uttam : 11550 PE:CE now at 33L to 23L
12:39 Bhupinder : Shai/Uttam, 30700ce- is it 1% or 2% risk trad? I had matched up the performance table with calls per that if “Intra” is not prefixed it is 2%/3% for NF/BNF. per this it should be 2%, is it crrect interpretation
12:40 Shai : 1%
12:40 Uttam : expiry day calls cannot be positional Bhupinder
12:40 Shai : This one is also intra as expiring today
12:40 Bhupinder : ok
12:41 Uttam : by default take all calls as intra, positionla will have extra tag in it when they are sent out in the room
12:41 Shai : Place exit orders to execute at 62 in the 30700 call. we will exit at cost . cmp 58. can exit here also
12:41 Shai : BNF not giving belief for a quick move abv 30700
12:42 Shai : will buy any dip
12:42 Anubhav : arnd vwap?
12:42 Bhupinder : so by default expiry day risk is 1% and other days deault is 2%/3%, if “Intra” not prefixed
12:43 Shai : yes
12:43 Bhupinder : thanks
12:44 Shai : intra is 1%, BTST also 1%, all BNF trades taken for 2 days or more at 2% and all NF trades for 2+ at 3%
12:44 Uttam : USDINR breaking out
12:44 Shai : reduced for BNF the risk from 3 to 2 % as higher risk trades there
12:46 Uttam : USDINR at 50% of the gao lower, good place to short here Shai?
12:46 Anubhav : ibh held inspite of so many reds in nf…going up uttam?
12:46 Bhupinder : actually today your earlier calls had “Intra” prefixed, but not this one, hence the question
12:47 Sandip : BNF maxx pain moves to 30700
12:49 Anubhav : 30800/30900 possible tgt then sandip?
12:49 Shai : yes I try to for all @Bhupinder. This one was a slip
12:49 Shai : my bad
12:50 Sandip : 30800…30900 is too far and too written
12:51 Uttam : 11550pe ca do a quick double from hre?
12:51 Uttam : 8 to 14
12:51 Uttam : SL 5
12:56 Sandip : bnf premium down to 0 from 60
12:58 Uttam : (09:58) Uttam : intersting thing yesterday was while that FA was visited in NF, spot FA of 11461 was intact as Nifty did not make lower low
12:58 Uttam : 1atr from this FA on spot is 11582
13:00 Sandip : πŸ™‚
13:00 Shai : 30700 call exit done at cost
13:00 Sandip : Im still holding Shai
13:00 Shai : +1
13:00 Sandip : I wanna see 30800bnf
13:00 Shai : does not have volume beyond 30770
13:00 Sandip : Ok I will settle for that also πŸ™‚
13:01 Shai : pdh is 30793
13:01 Sandip : That ce should do 80 atleast
13:01 Uttam : sustaining above 70 that 30700ce can give more upside
13:02 Himanshu : Chiefs 30750 done dot and now spot dropping
13:02 Ravi : Uttam about 11550pe..
13:03 Sandip : bnf is the lagger here…spot caught up ..removed all premium…now bnf is waiting for short covering if any….I doubt well get fresh buyers here
13:05 Anubhav : thnx
13:05 Sandip : ok finaaly pe writing of 30700 strike greater than. the CE…though total OI of ce is still greater
13:06 Uttam : (13:02) Ravi : Uttam about 11550pe..still not gone below 5 that one Ravi
13:07 Uttam : 11550ce landing in bulls lap looks like
13:07 Uttam : 11550 sorry
13:09 Shai : more likely a close at 11550 today
13:09 Shai : 30700 BNF
13:09 Shai : That dpoc looks too strong to move now in 2 hiusr
13:09 Shai : hours*
13:10 Uttam : (11:49) Uttam : @Sandip looks like 11550 combo headed to single digits today
13:10 Shai : +1
13:10 Shai : how much is it now?
13:10 Uttam : 36
13:12 Sandip : The 11550 PE is definitely going down to 0
13:12 Uttam : yes 34L now OI in that
13:14 Ravi : Sandip please let it go to 14 then as you wish :)(13:12) Sandip : The 11550 PE is definitely going down to 0
13:15 Thanika : Monthly PE premiums not coming down despite upmove in Nifty
13:16 Shubro : 30700 pe 43 to 58 phew
13:16 Shubro : bach gaya
13:17 Shubro : 12800 guy in bnf is he smart or gonna get stuck?
13:17 Gaurav : thats a vwap SL for some earlier long
13:18 Shubro : phir to theek hai
13:18 Shubro : ok baba i am out for now too volatile
13:19 Shai : Intra – Buy BNF 30690 sl fo 30610 tgt 30770
13:19 Gaurav : 3L rools?
13:19 Gaurav : *rolls?
13:19 Sandip : at this point 3 lac lol
13:20 Uttam : rolls abhi se?
13:20 Sandip : Shai can you check please
13:20 Shai : not sure
13:20 Gaurav : sombe desk manager is going on a vacation, looks like
13:20 Uttam : yes
13:20 Uttam : similar vols in Aug
13:20 Shubro : haha
13:20 Uttam : even yesterday that 1.5L was there
13:20 Uttam : whats happenign
13:20 Anubhav : too many reds in nf
13:20 Uttam : hedges?
13:21 Thanika : some covered call/put writing due to low VIX !! πŸ™‚
13:22 Shai : yes buyer in Aug
13:22 Shai : 375K
13:22 Sandip : Oh nice
13:22 Shubro : badiya
13:22 Sandip : go bnf go
13:22 Gaurav : these could be green in august?
13:22 Shubro : jaaasht go
13:23 Shai : on 30 min charts
13:23 Shai : will post
13:23 Shubro : Sandip 30800?
13:23 Shai : think he was long in July and pushed position to Aug
13:23 Shai : yes all 375K
13:23 Himanshu : NF broke out in spot
13:24 Shai : just reduce this 375K in the COT numbers – date 11th July
13:24 Uttam : @Shai yesterday also we had that 1.5L was it green or red in Aug?
13:24 Shai : please make a note- I know some of you tracking the COT which is awesome , but this so early in series is unusual
13:25 Govind : Yes, Shai. Thanks.
13:26 Shai : No nothing in Aug yesterday
13:26 Shai : unusual
13:26 Himanshu : perfect W in Nifty Spot
13:26 Uttam : 1.5L vols was there on1min bar Shai
13:26 Bhupinder : so for Ag series, COT needs to be tracked from 11 july
13:27 Uttam : strange it is not there now
13:27 Shubro : eh?
13:27 Shai : not in aug- https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T0F2YRXQT-FKZPWGH3L/vol_pic_nf_aug.png
13:28 Shubro : so he didnt rollover?
13:28 Shai : no just reduce -3.75 from July COT reading of today :- (13:26) Bhupinder : so for Ag series, COT needs to be tracked from 11 july
13:28 Shai : It’s not -464 but -90 K only so far on day
13:28 Amit : Option calls are cheaper now as premium difference between spot and future is almost 0 to -ve
13:31 Anubhav : tough fight
13:31 MJ : Aing. Biggies this early in July.
13:32 MJ : Thanks for the updates shai.
13:33 Shubro : yawwwn!
13:34 Shubro : hey anyone watching/finsihed billions?
13:34 Govind : Is the new season on?
13:34 Shubro : i just started
13:34 Shubro : bloody good
13:34 Govind : did not know…hotstar?
13:34 Shubro : yeah
13:34 Govind : okie, will check it out
13:34 Shubro : i thot i heard abt a new season but not sure
13:35 Shai : new season of Billions?
13:35 Shai : is it still good?
13:35 Shubro : no no i just started watching it…been meaning to for ages never got time
13:35 Shai : the first season was the best and I used to wait up on it for new episodes but lost interest from mid session of 2
13:35 Sandip : yes Iz good shai
13:36 Shubro : hehe thx for heads up
13:36 Shai : The big guy pushed our dpoc upto 11574
13:36 Shai : only that size could have moved it
13:37 Thanika : good spike in cash ..up
13:37 Shubro : cmon bnf shake it
13:37 Sandip : Also that dip in vwap was supported by options, spot, cash…so lets just breakout plz
13:37 Thanika : SBI that was..
13:38 MJ : Shai 8th july vwap tag?
13:38 MJ : Possible.
13:38 Uttam : 11550ce below 20L now
13:38 Shubro : lets ee zeros now
13:38 Shai : My theory is that the big guy is a even more smarter guy than I thought him to be . he has rolled for the premium
13:39 Shubro : adn blow up
13:39 Thanika : +1 Shai
13:39 Shai : Maybe he thinks it will be upto 100 again that Aug prem . he already has a free 80 in July
13:39 Shai : with nio change of his bias
13:40 Rushabh : shai whats the view for this series if you have?
13:40 Shubro : aaah nice one Shai smart man that is
13:40 Sandip : Also one small thing to note
13:40 Shai : BNF 30730 . book half here and ride some at cost
13:41 Lovepreet null : Superb Sir
13:41 Sandip : + 1 Shai
13:41 Himanshu : Chief NF looks strong
13:41 Shai : currentky on review mode at 11620- 11645 spot
13:41 Shai : (13:40) Rushabh : shai whats the view for this series if you have?
13:41 Uttam : that 11550ce finally gets above 33
13:41 Shai : will check OF when we get there
13:41 Himanshu : Ok thabks
13:42 Rushabh : alright shai
13:43 Uttam : (12:08) Uttam : 11594 test coming?
13:43 Vidyanand : @shai has initiative Buying started?
13:43 Anubhav : chalo pdh to ho gaya uttam bas hum pehle nikal gaye
13:43 Uttam : 11550ce hits high of 43.8
13:43 Uttam : did make a dip to vwap though
13:43 Sandip : NF spot needs to get above 11600 to test 11600CE writers once
13:43 Uttam : that poor highs need to be repaired?
13:43 Vidyanand : there was a big buyer 2 days back at 11594
13:44 Rushabh : uttam abki bar uske paar
13:44 Shubro : out of BNF shai
13:44 Sandip : bnf might do the same for 30800ce Writers
13:44 Uttam : 30700ce needs to get abv 70
13:44 Shai : yes- (13:43) Vidyanand : there was a big buyer 2 days back at 11594
13:45 Anubhav : i perioid is always trending why is that?
13:45 Uttam : OTF
13:45 Shai : Book the BNF fully at 30736 cmp
13:45 Shubro : bach gaya re good one Shai
13:45 Shai : cheers
13:45 Uttam : 36L to 16L now the 11550 equation
13:46 Shubro : now back to vwap anyone?
13:46 Shubro : MJ kya bolti tu?
13:46 Himanshu : chief – _ve COT for NF ( so Pros who were +ve 1.4 Mn day before partially booking out)
13:46 Sandip : Thanika, can you post a pic plz
13:47 MJ : Done for the day shubro. Bnf wise.
13:47 MJ : just waiting for Shai’s marching orders.
13:47 MJ : Gamma strike you want again?
13:48 Shubro : cash buying stil on no Thanika?
13:49 Sandip : Finally 30700 PE writing stronger than 30700CE …and OI also reduced in the ce
13:49 Thanika : cash kept high as well
13:49 Sandip : now 680 should hold till 2.30
13:50 Shubro : good hai
13:50 Vidyanand : can we go long in NF at 11575 ?
13:50 Shubro : ghum kee aate hain
13:50 Vidyanand : even after such a huge sell volume we see price not falling
13:51 Uttam : that is a roll over Vidyanand
13:51 MJ : Check that maruti today Shubro πŸ™‚
13:51 Sandip : Nf gets profit booking from top
13:51 Uttam : you missed the conversation?
13:51 Anubhav : game over
13:52 Vidyanand : I think so I missed let me check in the sometime
13:52 Uttam : that is a long rollover in Aug
13:53 Anubhav : get back in ib
13:54 Vidyanand : ok
13:55 Sandip : Thanika can you post cash scene?
13:58 Shubro : lotteries today Shai fi any?
13:58 Thanika : posted
13:58 Shubro : looks good Thanika
13:58 Shubro : so buying on
13:58 Sandip : Thanks
13:59 Shubro : Sandip if going long which CE to buy then as per your logic?
14:00 Sandip : One thing I have notices about unnecessary big numbers on weekly expiry is that they hold the mkt there till the end in a sad grind
14:01 Govind : You got your Vwap Shubro
14:01 Shubro : yep but wasnt it re Govind
14:02 Govind : Ok
14:02 Shubro : looking for long moves
14:02 Vijai : 11550CE 43-now22- uttam.Thanks
14:03 Uttam : you shorted it Vijai?
14:03 Govind : looks like inside daysin both indices ifwe close here. We may see better moves tomorrow if that happens to be the case
14:03 Vijai : yes(14:03) Uttam : you shorted it Vijai?
14:03 Shubro : same thought here Option writers will keep game tight
14:03 Uttam : nice πŸ™‚ congrats
14:04 Vijai : thanks..its your hint
14:06 Uttam : (12:46) Uttam : USDINR at 50% of the gao lower, good place to short here Shai?
14:06 Uttam : USDINR back to IBH
14:06 Uttam : breakout place
14:07 Uttam : getting resisted at prev week high plus 50% of gap zonne
14:11 MJ : shai 30700 can pick as lottery?
14:13 Sandip : im out 75 % at 51….6-7 pts profit…grinders ecpiry..keeping last 25% in case of upmove
14:17 Shubro : Sandip do you ladder up in 25% increments ?
14:17 Sandip : my avg is at 44…so sl for the last 25% will be at 25
14:17 Sandip : ladder up meaning?
14:17 Shubro : as in add to position at higher price?
14:18 Shubro : as in pyramid or buy and then sell half positions as we do here?
14:18 Sandip : rarely
14:18 Shubro : ok
14:19 Sandip : i do the opp i buy then avg a bit when it goes below my price
14:19 Sandip : finally
14:19 Shubro : finaally
14:19 Uttam : 11600pe making new lows
14:20 Uttam : 11600ce OI needs to start falking thoguh
14:20 Uttam : strong 44L in it
14:20 Rushabh : 100k red NF
14:20 Sandip : all out at 66
14:20 Shubro : nice
14:20 Uttam : high so far in that CE 30700 at 69.45
14:21 Sandip : phew
14:21 Anubhav : mj ki lotter lag gayi?!
14:21 Uttam : (13:44) Uttam : 30700ce needs to get abv 70
14:21 Uttam : done now
14:21 Uttam : boom boom
14:22 Uttam : 11600ce OI coming down
14:22 Rushabh : 11620?
14:22 Uttam : 70 to 90 in seconds that 30700ce
14:22 Sandip : yep
14:23 Uttam : should not get below 55 now
14:23 Sandip : my boom boom came very late πŸ™‚
14:23 Uttam : writers getting squeezed there Sandip
14:23 Uttam : 30700ce
14:24 Shubro : RS there?
14:25 Uttam : 11624 close?
14:25 Sandip : yep
14:26 Uttam : 114 can come in tjat 30700ce
14:26 Uttam : if 55 not broken
14:27 Sandip : bought low at 71 Uttam lets see
14:27 Uttam : huge writing in 11600pe
14:27 Sandip : actually removed at 76
14:27 Anubhav : 1 hr left
14:28 Sandip : this isnt good according to spot values
14:28 Shubro : thoda aur niche to better
14:28 Anubhav : can go back to ibh/vwap
14:32 Anubhav : come on bhaalu bros
14:32 Shubro : looks tough to go up now
14:33 Shubro : but BNF is a world class B
14:33 Sandip : ok Uttam, bought low at 65 πŸ™‚
14:34 MJ : Kardo isko lottery worthy (14:11) MJ : shai 30700 can pick as lottery?
14:34 Gaurav : pe or ce MJ?
14:35 MJ : Gaurav was looking at ce side at 1411
14:35 MJ : now doesn’t look like.
14:36 MJ : As far as we hold 55 as suggested by Uttam. πŸ™‚
14:38 Sandip : bank nifty spot is lagging..that needs to move up fast
14:39 Shubro : BNF looking to reverse?
14:39 Shubro : behaving a little creepy now
14:40 Sandip : 2.45 should clear things up?
14:41 Shubro : upar chad BC BNF
14:41 Shubro : MJ kharid re kotak aaj
14:41 MJ : πŸ™‚
14:41 Sandip : premium eating at the moment
14:41 MJ : Aaj gaadi aur bike ka din hai rey.
14:41 Shubro : haan
14:42 Rajiv : If that would help i can hurl them all the time LOLShubro : upar chad BC BNF
14:42 Shubro : hahaha
14:43 MJ : In that ce shubro again.
14:43 MJ : jo mila bonus after your abuse πŸ™‚
14:43 Shubro : 700 wala?
14:43 MJ : haan
14:43 Sandip : spot jumps finally
14:43 MJ : Out of days profit only.
14:44 Shubro : lo kallo baat…sunti hai
14:44 Shubro : 2:45
14:45 Sandip : I have low quant so ill hold these ces for some time with a stop of 30
14:45 Shubro : haan same
14:45 Shubro : din ka gains bhains in water nahin dene ka
14:45 Sandip : premium down to 10 rs in that ce..keep noting
14:46 Uttam : ext handle in both being saved
14:46 MJ : shubro :)) shambar pahije.
14:46 Uttam : BNF boom boom
14:46 MJ : Denar ka?
14:46 Shubro : PDH BNF
14:46 Uttam : 30857?
14:46 Shai : Buy NF 11599 sl of 11571 tgt 11635
14:46 Uttam : 30700ce new highs
14:46 Shai : Intra – Buy NF 11599 sl of 11571 tgt 11635
14:47 Shubro : yay Shai
14:47 Shubro : kaun becha BNF
14:47 Govind : Kotak, Infy and Indus declare results tomorrow.
14:48 Shubro : 24k BNF profit book?
14:48 Shubro : ya new seller
14:49 MJ : Shubro out 77
14:49 Shubro : haan i was out 75
14:49 Shubro : 5 point only bought at 70
14:49 MJ : Now just small pos and will sit.
14:50 Sandip : me a t72
14:50 Shubro : 24k fella took wind out of bnf move
14:50 Sandip : 3.05 ka move is still there
14:51 Shubro : BNF teasing
14:51 Shubro : but wont be a straight line move up
14:52 Anubhav : fpi ne trust band karke pvt lt companies khol li 3 din me
14:52 Shubro : rotational days ahead i think
14:52 Shubro : aare mauritius be 3 din lagte hain
14:53 Sandip : some profit booking in bnf
14:53 Shubro : yep
14:53 Anubhav : hahaha
14:53 Shubro : ext handle holds game on
14:53 MJ : spike close anyone?
14:53 Sandip : but cash is being held..and spot also
14:54 Sandip : cmmon Uttam gimme 110 atleast
14:54 MJ : pure donation trade of 30800 taken.
14:54 Sandip : my 4 lots ka lottery remains
14:54 MJ : 11 rs.
14:55 Sandip : good to see some writing in 30800PE πŸ™‚
14:55 Sandip : atleast a test of them will, be fun
14:56 Shubro : eeesh NF
14:56 Anubhav : bye
14:56 Anubhav : lol
14:56 Sandip : ok 4 lots gone at 50
14:56 Anubhav : thappad
14:56 Shubro : bach gaya
14:57 Shubro : told ya she was a B
14:57 MJ : haha πŸ™‚
14:57 Shubro : NF bhi choti behen
14:58 Shubro : cash sells also spiked
14:58 Sandip : 2.5 Dt after deductions
14:59 Anubhav : dpoc tag
15:00 Anubhav : 3.05 algo
15:04 Sandip : looking for 10 pts
15:04 Sandip : 30-40
15:05 Sandip : out at 38
15:06 MJ : /
15:06 Sandip : oO
15:07 MJ : Sandip’s favv time of expiry πŸ™‚
15:07 MJ : Congrats mate.
15:07 Sandip : Thx Mj
15:07 MJ : at 13:10 30700 ce+pe was at 102ish down to 16 bucks now.
15:07 Sandip : too much booking though in bnf
15:09 Sandip : bought same ce at 19 3 lots thats it
15:09 Sandip : could go upto 33-36
15:09 Sandip : or crash at 0
15:11 Sandip : oh yeaa
15:11 Sandip : out at 33
15:11 MJ : Lovely.
15:11 MJ : took my sell order at 31
15:11 MJ : πŸ™‚
15:11 MJ : cheers!
15:11 Sandip : why did this happen? because the writers at 30700 are 0 at the moment
15:12 Shai : exit the NF at 11586
15:12 Sandip : and the writers at 30700pe were huge….so a small scalp was there
15:14 MJ : So 30700 pe were clearing off?
15:14 Sandip : no they were adding
15:14 Sandip : mkt went up na
15:15 MJ : Oh ok.
15:15 Sandip : bank spot should close around 30710-750
15:15 Shubro : good show Sandip and wonderful learning for me although didnt play that move
15:15 Shubro : but next time (twisting my moustache)
15:15 MJ : Yes sandip. Thank you for your comments.
15:16 MJ : Shubru tum dhyan rakho. Tc mate.
15:16 MJ : Health wise πŸ™‚
15:16 Sandip : haha Thanks guys
15:16 Shubro : bilkul janab
15:16 Himanshu : Chief with – NF – VE cot of 704 K – part of 1.3 M carrid by Local and pro – half is booked here it seems
15:16 MJ : Himanshu there was 1.3 and 1.1
15:16 Sandip : Chicken soup for the soul ( and flu)…unless ur vegitarian..then god help u :p
15:17 MJ : I have just met one veg bong.
15:17 Sandip : haha kidding
15:17 MJ : and still finding a vegan one πŸ˜›
15:17 Himanshu : But MJ – we also had negative of 8 L before
15:17 Himanshu : so
15:17 MJ : Yes additions you are talking.
15:17 Himanshu : yes
15:17 Himanshu : I mean net based on post covering of -8 L
15:18 MJ : This comment goes into my notes (13:41) Shai : currentky on review mode at 11620- 11645 spot
15:18 Himanshu : basically – now – FIIS are -Ve and Pros and Local have booked 50 % of long created from lows ( LIC support zone)
15:19 Anubhav : yeah himanshu
15:19 Anubhav : aisa hi kuch lag ra hai
15:20 MJ : Bye everyone.
15:20 MJ : Hope England wins today.
15:20 Anubhav : if we fall below 11570 tomorrow trend will be back down
15:21 MJ : JFYI 11600 was weekly VAH. We reverse from 11606.
15:21 Rushabh : ping pong
15:22 MJ : Yes R.
15:22 Anubhav : hmmm
15:23 Sandip : jhol time on?
15:23 Anubhav : ab to khatam
15:23 Anubhav : 5 min
15:23 Anubhav : dpoc close
15:25 Gaurav : @MJ your weekly composite is from monday or last Friday (expiry to expiry)?
15:26 Sumit : stbt
15:26 Sumit : in NF ?
15:26 MJ : @Gaurav https://mplite.vtrender.com/?symbol=NIFTY&tf=weekly&tpo=2&ivp=1&sp=1&startDate=&endDate=&nDays=8
15:26 MJ : This was a quick check from weekly.
15:26 MJ : But I watch friday to thu. usually.
15:28 Uttam : Shai had said yesterday that does not expect a big move away from here
15:28 Uttam : ghoom phirkar lautke buddhu ghar ko aaye
15:28 Uttam : 30700 & NF slightly higher cos of that 3.5L guy at 11570
15:29 Uttam : Trend Day VWAP still not tagged in both
15:29 Shai : yes only positive thing is the monthly guy feels there isn’t much downsides
15:29 Shai : a trade abv 11620 spot invites short covering
15:29 Shai : Bye all
15:30 Shai : Have a nice evening
15:30 Uttam : thanks Shai
15:30 Uttam : thanks All πŸ™‚ have a lovely evening
15:30 Rushabh : bye shai, shai could you uodate on eod cot?
15:30 Lovepreet : Bye All
15:30 Sandip : bye all


09:41 Gaurav : Shai, what is the view on usdinr?
10:56 Shai : usdinr weak below 68.98 F all month for targets of 68.13 and 67.80 F
11:33 MJ : Shai your view on Tisco for 3-4 month TF?
11:34 MJ : Are we seeing cash addition?
12:26 Gaurav : thanks Shai
13:10 MJ : Shai cash buy in maruti?