Order Flow trading is thinking about what order market participants do and when you think along this, you can anticipate what kind of action they will be taking in the market. This is a very important concept in Order Flow.
Market participants always look for the weaker side of the market, so both buy and sell stops will be targeted. Just one of the many concepts of OrderFlow trading.
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09:18 Shai : (09:18) Shai : Trade- Buy 11600 call at 85- 86 sl of 65 tgt 115/ 125
(09:18) Shai : 18 apr
10:46 Shai : (10:46) Shai : update – Sell 11700 call apri 18 at 35 sl of 43 tgt 23/17. Only for writers. This is against the 11600 call we hold
10:56 Shai : (10:56) Shai : intra – Go short 50%25 size in BNF at 29940 sl of 30050 tgt 29800
11:21 Shai : (11:20) Shai : Update- BNF at 29875. Book fullyt
11:48 Shai : (11:47) Shai : Make exits in the 11600 call at 66
11:51 Shai : (11:51) Shai : update – Book the 11700 call shorts also at 28 cmp. Flat again.
14:25 Shai : (14:25) Shai : Trade – Buy 50%25 size in 30200 call at 134 cmp sl of 88 tgt 228/ 290.
15:07 Shai : (15:07) Shai : Close out the 30200 call here cmp . We won;t carry
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09:00 Uttam : Good Morning All 🙂
09:02 Shai : GM all
09:03 Shai : https://vtrender.in/market-profile-analysis-dated-11th-apr/
09:07 Jitender : Gm Folks 🙂
09:08 Subhodeep : gm all
09:13 TP : Gm All.
09:17 Shubro : GM all
09:18 Shai : Trade- Buy 11600 call at 85- 86 sl of 65 tgt 115/ 125
09:18 Shai : 18 apr
09:21 Jagdish null : gm
09:25 Hari : 18th april call at 56 now?
09:25 Uttam : thats put Hari
09:26 TP : charts a bit slow ?
09:26 Uttam : my both broadband are down cos of some road work going on here so relying on mobile data
09:27 Shai : Look fine
09:27 TP : tks uttam, wonder when jio fibre wakes up and we get good speed.
09:27 Shai : 82 now- (09:25) Hari : 18th april call at 56 now?
09:27 TP : wil refresh again chief.
09:28 Uttam : yes Tej good part is recently jio guys were laying the fibr in our area 🙂
09:28 Shubro : They are pretty quick – laid 2 days ago and ready to connect
09:28 TP : +1
09:28 Uttam : but no luck here so far Shubro, had registered when they had launced but yet to hear from them
09:29 Shubro : ok
09:29 Shubro : speed here pretty good on Jio
09:30 Hari : Uttam , ACT is good in Bgl?
09:41 Anubhav null : 11680 needs to be crossed
09:43 Shai : yes
09:45 TP : 18th apr bn 29800 ce 265 with spot at 29810 , pricing in not even a 1% upside move 😉
09:46 Shai : BNF looking to scale up today
09:47 Shai : should be the one looking to traget 30250F
09:47 TP : Shai then buying 2980k at 265 and selling 30k at 175 a good startegy.
09:48 Shai : 280 nneds a cross on that 29800
09:48 Shai : shoukld boom to 360 once done
09:49 TP : +1
09:50 Shai : product still in the making – (09:45) TP : 18th apr bn 29800 ce 265 with spot at 29810 , pricing in not even a 1% upside move 😉
09:50 Shai : the opp exists for us becuase it is not regularised yet
09:50 Shai : once the machines come in it will work perfectly
09:51 Shai : which is why I have been saying focus now on the weeklies and get good at them
09:51 TP : weeklies are a strange bunch especially from sellers viewpoint , ideally use the DITM as proxy for F for me !!
09:52 Shai : not everyone is smart like you TP
09:52 TP : Cheif ….got me red faced !!
09:52 Shai : cutrret bunch of traders trading these would not know the difference between the delta and the theta of the trade
09:52 MJ : Morning everyone.
09:52 MJ : +1 chief about tp 🙂
09:53 Shai : small RS in BNF at PDH
09:54 Shai : needs more demand
09:54 Psandeep : GM All
09:55 TP : _/\_ MJ.
10:04 Subhodeep : box within a box again oh no
10:04 Shai : open by locals it is
10:32 Shai : still the same 11640- 11675 bracket yesterday open
10:34 TP : 2 holidays next week , so just 8 trading days to expiry including today .
10:46 Shai : update – Sell 11700 call apri 18 at 35 sl of 43 tgt 23/17. Only for writers. This is against the 11600 call we hold
10:53 Shai : wait mode till 2 pm this is
10:53 Shai : thought early in morning we would scale abv 11780F quick
10:54 MJ : Very small IB for nf.
10:55 MJ : BCD vols scaling off. Another second half move this looks like.
10:56 Shai : intra – Go short 50% size in BNF at 29940 sl of 30050 tgt 29800
11:02 Hari : Shai, youthink maret going to be rangbound until election results
11:06 Arun : still continue to hold NIFTY CE LONG?
11:20 Shai : for now yes , stable abv 11640
11:20 Shai : but if you want to can exit but buy back quickly when 11680 is crossed
11:20 Shai : Update- BNF at 29875. Book fullyt
11:21 Jitender : +1
11:22 Boppanna : +1
11:41 Shai : prem in NF back to 50 today
11:41 Uttam : 28k green right at 11640
11:42 Shai : low liquidity
11:42 HPandey : that r stops shai in nf?
11:43 Shai : yes
11:43 Uttam : single order of 1.4L Shai?
11:43 Shai : no
11:43 Uttam : oh ok thanks 🙂
11:43 Shai : hold the 11600 call for now
11:43 Uttam : 28k in BNF also
11:44 Shai : 69 now
11:44 Shai : if it crosses 11640 F again we will spike up
11:45 Vivek : big green at 11630.. does this mean something?
11:45 Shai : it’s stop orders
11:47 Vivek : stop orders whats that?? does the chart only show executed order
11:47 Vivek : doesn’t
11:47 Shai : Make exits in the 11600 call at 66
11:50 Shai : ofcourse only traded ones 🙂 – (11:47) Vivek : stop orders whats that?? does the chart only show executed order
11:51 Shai : update – Book the 11700 call shorts also at 28 cmp. Flat again.
11:52 Vivek : thanks Shai.. wouldn’t it mean 11630 will be tough to break?
11:52 Shai : NF becomes a buy again abv 11642 for 11662/ 11677 sl of 11621
11:53 Shai : the old buyers of yesterdara re at 11619F
11:53 Shubro : we going to rotate is the assumption Shai or waiting for direction?
11:54 Uttam : small IB in NF & poor highs so lets have a multiple IB day
11:54 Uttam : one rejection to vwap or IBL will be nice
11:54 Uttam : 1.5 IB down done in NF
11:55 Shai : roatate – (11:53) Shubro : we going to rotate is the assumption Shai or waiting for direction?
11:55 Uttam : NF has poor lows also
12:05 Vivek : One questions sirs.. wouldn’t stops order of such high volume mean that this point could act as demand zone (support)
12:18 Uttam : BNF is the wild card here
12:18 Uttam : can surprise on the upside
12:20 Uttam : has not yet tagged the 1.5 IB ext lower too
12:21 Shai : the aggfressive buyer/ seller a better supp – (12:05) Vivek : One questions sirs.. wouldn’t stops order of such high volume mean that this point could act as demand zone (support)
12:21 Shai : refer to the volume at 1.20 pm yesterday in the charts posted on blog
12:36 Shubro : looks like the market holding its breath
12:41 MJ : Dhak dhak 🙂
12:45 Shubro : prominent POC shat in BNF at 29880?
12:45 Shubro : sorry Shai*
12:45 Shubro : oops
12:46 Himanshu : boomm
12:47 Himanshu : Where is jit
12:51 Anubhav : rs at vwap again
12:59 Anubhav : scalpers paradise
13:00 MJ : Rotate kinda day anubhav. 🙂
13:00 MJ : Ideal for 10 12 pts.
13:00 MJ : Bigger size and keep hitting.
13:01 MJ : Or as shai says. preserve emotional capital.
13:02 Anubhav : dollar gave a good move today..nifty maybe by close will do something
13:02 Subhodeep : shai on the bnf what zone should be referecen for short covering to start ?
13:03 Subhodeep : 29960?
13:03 Subhodeep : and up ?
13:04 Anubhav : i think 30k
13:10 Boppanna : IMO Intra above 910 sustains then could move quick
13:11 Shai : 11662 F done – (11:52) Shai : NF becomes a buy again abv 11642 for 11662/ 11677 sl of 11621
13:11 Shai : 11641 Sl if in this one
13:11 Boppanna : Nice one Shai
13:33 Gaurav : 130k sell now
13:35 Himanshu : boom
13:36 Shubro : BNF yet to fire
13:36 Ashish : Shai, reds or stops in NF?
13:36 MJ : 22k bugger has come there late latif.
13:36 MJ : Shubro take care of him. And we should ignite.
13:36 Shubro : yes i am going to deposit money in bank
13:37 MJ : lol
13:41 Shubro : oye J period rocket singh
13:42 Shubro : Uttam release brakes on BNF
13:44 Shai : 2 also done – (13:11) Shai : 11662 F done – (11:52) Shai : NF becomes a buy again abv 11642 for 11662/ 11677 sl of 11621
13:44 Shai : bug boy covering at 11679 his position of yesterday
13:45 Shai : this one is supply – (13:36) Ashish : Shai, reds or stops in NF?
13:46 Ashish : Thanks Shai
13:47 Shai : 11660 should come again
13:47 Shai : sl of 11690
13:47 Shai : play the roaotions on this orderflow
13:47 MJ : +1 chief.
13:48 Ashish : spike in SPX also
13:54 MJ : 11703 ext handle visit due.
13:54 Shai : exit the short view
13:54 Uttam : boom boom coming in BNf?
13:54 Shai : BNF jumpy
13:54 Uttam : 30250 it can do Shai?
13:54 Uttam : 27k red at top
13:54 Uttam : same place as yesterday
13:54 Uttam : 0
13:54 Anubhav : 11710 maybe
13:54 Uttam : 30009
13:54 MJ : 22k exited I reckon. quick scalper.
13:55 MJ : Is that you TP?
13:55 Uttam : we had seller here also MJ so that guy may be back
13:56 MJ : Maybe.
13:56 Uttam : NF got the poor high poor low disease today spreading it everywhere
13:56 Uttam : poor highs at top again
13:56 TP : no just 800 in options F not my cup of tea 😉
13:56 TP : (13:55) MJ : Is that you TP?
13:56 MJ : 😉
14:05 Himanshu : uttam – Fry – day quick tag of 29850
14:09 Uttam : PLR to the upside I feel Himanshu
14:10 Uttam : boom boom
14:10 Gaurav : another 150 k
14:10 Uttam : (12:18) Uttam : BNF is the wild card here(12:18) Uttam : can surprise on the upside(12:20) Uttam : has not yet tagged the 1.5 IB ext lower too
14:10 Shai : longs in BNF and shorts in NF
14:11 Gaurav : seems like all greens of this week booking out
14:11 Shai : yes
14:11 Gaurav : so next week your 11450?
14:11 Shai : cetainly big biys are cleaning up
14:12 Shai : technical is still for 11730F though
14:12 Uttam : above 30056 BNF can fly
14:13 Shai : yes BNF can drive this
14:13 Shai : don;t add shorts
14:13 Anubhav : 11710 was the breakdown level
14:13 Shai : (13:54) Shai : exit the short view(13:54) Shai : BNF jumpy
14:13 Gaurav : extension handle is almost here
14:13 Gaurav : that level
14:13 Uttam : 11706 it was Anubhav but as we are in a composite
14:13 Uttam : does not hold that much importance
14:14 Shai : 29900 onwards longs bulding in BNF
14:14 Uttam : 11730 calling in NF
14:14 Uttam : BN spot can do 30k
14:14 Boppanna : 13:10 Boppanna : IMO Intra above 910 sustains then could move quick
14:16 Uttam : NF at that hvn of 11721 again
14:16 Uttam : (13:54) Uttam : boom boom coming in BNf?(13:54) Uttam : 30250 it can do Shai? can we do this?
14:18 Shubro : khel over?
14:19 Shai : sellers just adding up huge in NF
14:19 Anubhav : redredred
14:19 Shai : no is a hedge
14:19 Shai : BNF longs
14:19 Uttam : he can be forced to cover Shai?
14:20 Anubhav : oh so pair trading happening
14:21 Shai : yes that results move
14:22 Shai : till BNF shows reds there won’t be a drop
14:25 Shai : Trade – Buy 50% size in 30200 call at 134 cmp sl of 88 tgt 228/ 290.
14:25 Shai : go with only a small size here
14:26 Shai : if we get a drop may add again
14:26 Boppanna : Shai mentioned that 29800 above 280 is motoring non stop +65
14:26 Shai : +1
14:27 Shai : just that the BN volatility the levels have to be taken with a small filter
14:27 Shai : 30000 supp in BNF
14:27 Shai : is a buy there in F
14:27 Shai : 29920 sl for day
14:32 MJ : Composite poc 11726. we come close to 11720
14:33 Uttam : prev week’s hvn right there at 11721
14:33 MJ : Mplite values.
14:34 Boppanna : SPX spike continues..did Trump tweet while asleep 😉
14:34 Uttam : by mistake some tweet would have got live 😉
14:35 Uttam : weekly poc of last week also at 11721
14:38 Uttam : ab ki baar….
14:39 MJ : buyers at composite low did this yesterday. Kudos to those 🙂
14:39 MJ : Series poc tag.
14:41 Shai : 30250 calling BNF
14:41 Uttam : (13:54) Uttam : 30250 it can do Shai?
14:41 Uttam : Spot high so far 29989
14:42 Uttam : (14:14) Uttam : BN spot can do 30k
14:44 Boppanna : +1 Shai ..Shot for a 100.. 80 aint bad 14:26 Boppanna : Shai mentioned that 29800 above 280 is motoring non stop +65
14:45 Uttam : +100
14:46 Shai : intra player booking BNF
14:46 Uttam : that 11600ce just kissed the SL & now at target 1 Shai of 115
14:47 Boppanna : BNF out
14:47 Uttam : missed tgt 2 by just 1 point
14:47 Shai : can book once the 30200 call and place a buy order again at 104
14:48 Uttam : we have a FA at lows in BNF today & 1atr from there also comes exactly to 30250 🙂
14:56 Shai : this is the adjusting move
14:56 Shai : was waryu of this one
14:57 MJ : Bot has gone short on bnf.
15:02 Uttam : (14:14) Uttam : BN spot can do 30k check the high in BN spot
15:03 Uttam : 30000.95
15:03 Shubro : super se upar Uttam
15:03 Boppanna : +1 Uttam
15:04 MJ : Hope you do this every day 🙂 (13:36) Shubro : yes i am going to deposit money in bank
15:05 Uttam : no 3;05 move today?
15:05 Shubro : hehehe MJ
15:06 Shai : take it below his price – (14:57) MJ : Bot has gone short on bnf.
15:06 Boppanna : Uttam needs that 250 🙂
15:07 Shai : Close out the 30200 call here cmp . We won;t carry
15:07 TP : +1 chief for reminding bot rules 😉
15:07 Uttam : not coming today looks like Bops as no 3:05 move
15:08 Uttam : plus BN spot met that 30k objective
15:08 Boppanna : bot heard that Shai
15:09 Himanshu : Uttam – 30000.95 –
15:09 Himanshu : is now ressitancce for Spot for mondday
15:10 Himanshu : I was once told – .95 are such level
15:10 Himanshu : Uttam – any light on this
15:10 Uttam : lets see how the weekly charts shape up Himanshu
15:11 Uttam : .95 gets printed on a daliy basis so dont think it works in that way 🙁
15:12 Uttam : (14:12) Uttam : above 30056 BNF can fly…for now BNF holding this
15:13 Himanshu : weeekly chart in BNF is bearish – we might bee c
15:13 Himanshu : dark cloud type second week Lower High Lower Low
15:15 Uttam : I was talking about the MP weekly chart
15:15 Himanshu : ok
15:16 Himanshu : On TA chart – Daily BNF spot closing above 21 MA – 29918
15:16 Uttam : 29950 is the prominent weekly POC in BNF and we are closing above it
15:16 Himanshu : so first hour on monday – bullish
15:16 Uttam : so 29950 will be the marker for next week
15:16 Uttam : break below 29950 will be weak
15:17 Gaurav : bot sold NF as well now
15:17 Gaurav : interesting week ahead
15:17 Gaurav : 3/5 trading days
15:17 Uttam : yep Gaurav was abt to tell that
15:18 Uttam : so please keep in mind that we are only 7 days to the monthly expiry
15:18 Uttam : while trading in options
15:18 Govind : This is the quietest last half-hour I’ve seen this week…
15:19 Uttam : expect the unexpected 😉
15:20 TP : Looks like bot feels TCS/INFY results will be good 🙂
15:20 MJ : Yes chief (15:06) Shai : take it below his price – (14:57) MJ : Bot has gone short on bnf.
15:21 Govind : HDFCBank is falling now
15:21 MJ : 30150 and 30000.95 Clear number art.
15:21 MJ : And bot too.
15:21 MJ : Always a last trade 🙂
15:22 Shai : too much of sellling
15:22 Shai : even BNF turned red
15:23 Shubro : dead cat ?
15:23 Anubhav : is it a buy at 30k n 11685 now?
15:23 Uttam : 30060 & 11706 will be the levels to cross on the upside in both
15:23 Anubhav : was a fake intra move
15:24 Uttam : for now it may be helping the stuck sellers to get out
15:24 Azmath : Are vols good Shai here
15:24 Uttam : lets see what happens at 30012 & 11680
15:24 TP : Bye Guys , on a break for a week from tmrw . Will pop in the room as and when possible 🙂
15:24 MJ : Tp have a nice break.
15:24 Uttam : cool Tej, making use of 3day week 🙂 have a super time off
15:25 TP : Not intended but lucky i guess .
15:25 Uttam : +1 luck always favors the brave 🙂
15:26 MJ : Shai 🙂 Can I meet that bot ever?
15:26 MJ : Say my shukraan to him.
15:26 Govind : Yeah Shai
15:26 Govind : May be we’ll all come to Pune
15:26 Shai : 🙂
15:26 Shai : Bit is shy and waves a Hi 🙂
15:26 Uttam : 🙂
15:26 MJ : haha.
15:26 Govind : 🙂
15:27 Gaurav : s/he must be blushing
15:27 Shai : red faced actually
15:27 TP : lol
15:27 MJ : Lol tp has competition in red face.
15:27 Shai : see these reds in OF
15:27 MJ : Yes shai. lovely alert that bot shooted.
15:28 Shai : that God for the bot and the OF. that 30200 call collapsed after the alert
15:28 Uttam : +1 Shai
15:28 Govind : Sure did..Cheers to the Bot and the Botmaker
15:28 Shubro : Bot my baap
15:29 Uttam : (15:24) Uttam : lets see what happens at 30012 & 11680…..BNF getting some covering here at 30012
15:29 MJ : Bye everyone. Have a lovely weekend.
15:29 MJ : Thanks shai and bot.
15:29 Shai : 11660 did not cross
15:29 Shai : spot
15:29 Govind : Uttam, check out Axis and Yes Bank…their IVs are low…good time to enter strangles
15:29 Shai : let’s see if there is followthrough selling on Monday
15:29 Uttam : sure Govind will do that over the weekend
15:29 Govind : Theta is the issue though
15:29 Shai : for now let’s realx
15:29 Shubro : Yep
15:29 Uttam : yes Shai 🙂
15:29 Shai : Bye all
15:29 Govind : Ok guys..cheerios
15:29 Shubro : relaxing time bye all
15:29 Shai : Have a nice evening and a good weekend
15:29 Uttam : thanks All 🙂 have a lovely weekend
15:29 Govind : Have a great weekend
15:30 Rahul Desai : Bye everyone
15:30 Mani : bye all
15:34 Himanshu : bye all
15:35 Anubhav : bye
09:55 Gaurav : Shai views in DLF and INFIBEAM please. Thanks
10:16 Shai : dlf good buying from yesterday
10:16 Shai : 183 is shirt trem res
10:16 Shai : abv that 189
10:17 Subhodeep : shai hindal co inta support at208-207 ?
10:18 Shai : infibeam stil upside open to 50.5
10:19 Shai : but don;t buy aggressive here
10:19 Shai : may pull back some next weel
10:20 Shai : for today yes 207 intra supp
10:20 Shai : but wed seller can drop it to 198 even
10:21 Subhodeep : noted shai
10:50 MJ : Shai Rec Trend day in making?
11:38 Uttam : Views on Maruti Shai? Next leg up started in it or needs to close above 7235 today for confirmation about upside?
11:41 Gaurav : Shai BHEL going for 82-84 next?
12:01 Rajiv : Shai, is ITC ready to move
12:22 Shai : rec back to bracket highs and the OTF up is now stopped
12:23 Shai : maruto intra looks done
12:24 Shai : but swing can cross 7300
12:24 Uttam : thanks Shai holding for positional only a little bit
12:24 Shai : bhel for 79 and 82
12:25 Shai : itc looking better today
12:25 Shai : 305 next obj
12:35 Subhodeep : hul shai ur swing nad id views
12:37 MJ : Thanks shai
12:37 MJ : Bracket high breach should do 161ish?
12:38 MJ : Swing wise checking with you (12:22) Shai : rec back to bracket highs and the OTF up is now stopped
13:12 Shai : yes 3 week bracket 155- 158
13:13 Shai : 162 for a month long swing hold to cross for more
13:13 MJ : Thanks bossman.
13:15 Subhodeep : shai hindustan lever(12:35) Subhodeep : hul shai ur swing nad id views
13:23 Shai : getting supply at 1723
13:23 Shai : supp 1706
13:25 Uttam : Shai Maruti above 7300 can do 7350 today?
13:25 Shai : can
13:26 Uttam : thanks Shai 🙂 weekly FA working super in that
13:53 Uttam : Maruti high so far 7357 Shai 🙂 anything more for intra?
13:54 MJ : Done shai (12:25) Shai : 305 next obj