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08:47 Vtrender Live : 30 min charts – https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/145508109
08:50 Shai : Gm all
08:51 Shelendra Agrawal : GM
08:54 Himanshu : GM all
08:55 Shai : Uttam’s laptop is having issues and tyhe market profile report is delayed
08:56 Srinivas : GM all
08:56 Shai : Yesterday’s strong COT should give a gap up open today
08:56 Rajan : GM all
08:56 Gopi : gm
08:57 Shai : watch for an ability to stay above 12062 F on any gaps up
08:57 Shai : if it does we should be fine for 12132 F topday and 12165
08:57 Shai : 12020 and 11985 supp below
08:58 Shai : 30720 ref line in BNF
08:58 Shai : supp at 30610 and 30450
08:58 Chandrashekhar : GM all
09:00 Ravi : GM all
09:02 Manoj : good morning guys
09:04 Samir : Gm all
09:04 Uttam : Good Morning All 🙂
09:05 Uttam : apologies for the delay in posting the hypos & the report as some issues with my laptop
09:05 Gopi : strong gapup
09:06 Uttam : both NF & BNF have 2 HVNS this week at 12075 & 11975 for NF & 30400 & 30750 in BNF
09:06 Uttam : so will need to see if we fill in between these 2 hvns or move away from the higher one on this gap up
09:11 Govind : Uttam, value area for BNF?
09:11 Govind : 515 to 310?
09:12 Uttam : yep
09:12 Govind : +1
09:12 Prateeek null : good morning all
09:14 KK : Overnight 12K CE sold at 107..:)
09:15 Vishnu : chart stuck
09:15 Uttam : no Vishnu
09:15 Shai : one tst lower at the open would have been nice for some juicy CE’s
09:16 Shai : congarts to those who carried longs
09:17 Srinivas : Congrats KK +1
09:17 Chandrashekhar : Congrats KK
09:18 Vishnu : small profit shai but happy
09:18 KK : tx.last week also, COT helped in this.
09:18 Uttam : congrats KK & Vishnu
09:20 Vishnu : 30 points in 12300 march
09:21 Shai : 32 a buyer in 12100 ce
09:24 Uttam : 60k red n NF
09:25 KK : 60K red
09:25 Chandrashekhar : SL Uttam?
09:28 Uttam : 39 to 45 booked 50% in that 12100ce
09:29 Chandrashekhar : @Shai OF charts adjustment please
09:30 Chandrashekhar : thanks
09:30 Shai : open abv 12063F easy m,ove to 12132 getting done
09:30 Shai : (08:57) Shai : watch for an ability to stay above 12062 F on any gaps up(08:57) Shai : if it does we should be fine for 12132 F topday and 12165
09:31 Shai : OTD again
09:31 Shai : 12000 puts free money
09:31 Uttam : +1 Shai
09:31 Vishnu : back to back -60k in 5 min of shai
09:31 Shai : yes profit booking
09:32 Shai : longs consider booking near 12132
09:32 Shai : it the zone of A singles
09:32 Jitender : 31kpe 189-361
09:32 Jitender : wakao
09:32 Chandrashekhar : Super Jit, +100
09:33 Jitender : homewrk guys wud know the reason fr the trade
09:33 KK : Nice reverse on that 60 K negative 12100 FEb PE entry 69, exit 80
09:33 Chandrashekhar : +1 KK
09:33 Jitender : oh bc…311 on it 🙁
09:33 KK : oh.. this is going down
09:33 KK : Corona lag gaya
09:33 Vishnu : orr in bnf forming ?
09:33 Jitender : 363 🙁
09:33 Jitender : cheating
09:34 Shai : focussed trader – (09:31) Vishnu : back to back -60k in 5 min of shai
09:34 KK : staying in
09:34 Srinivas : 12.1K PE 37 to 50 1% DT
09:34 Uttam : -1.5L COT in NF
09:34 Srinivas : COT is beautiful
09:34 Vishnu : 12.1 k pe nicely 15 points
09:34 Tejpreet : GM All.
09:34 Shai : -145 K
09:34 Uttam : +100 Srinivas 🙂
09:34 KK : nice..COT is really beautiful.
09:34 Jitender : congrats all
09:35 Uttam : congo Jit / KK / Srinivas
09:35 Jitender : bc..cud have done 3xDT in onw more min
09:35 Srinivas : tx
09:35 Tejpreet : congrats all.
09:35 Gopi : no values in chart?
09:35 Tejpreet : Jit 3 trades and dt done.
09:35 Jitender : +1
09:36 Himanshu : Jit – What to do now
09:36 Jitender : have coffee
09:36 KK : Easy trades out..Now Shai ‘s help required.. break for a tea break,, but have a feeling we are going back with longs hardly holding on
09:36 Himanshu : with this cot to take reversal trade or wat for C
09:36 Srinivas : +1 😉
09:37 Govind : still no trades, waiting
09:37 Jitender : m pissed at myself after a long time but chalta hai https://vtrender.slack.com/archives/C0F2VRTPW/p1582085242181600
09:37 Shai : 12062- 12132 still the zone
09:38 Govind : Congo Jit and everyone else
09:38 Shai : Congrats Jit
09:38 Jitender : tx chief n friends
09:38 Shai : That is pure guerilla ! raided and out
09:38 Shai : 30 secs or 1 min?
09:39 Jitender : little more than a min
09:39 Govind : Shai, there was no follow up in BNF post gap-up and that was a sign of things to come I guess
09:39 Prakash : Shai, Volumes in 15mins is 23L, qualifies for OD-??
09:39 Srinivas : entred at 9:26, added at 9:33 out at 9:34
09:39 Shai : BNF went through that VA in the 80%
09:40 Govind : +1
09:40 Gopi : uttam i could able to locate only one -65k
09:40 Gopi : chart got struck
09:41 Jitender : but no one asked the most iintelligent question (09:33) Jitender : homewrk guys wud know the reason fr the trade
09:41 KK : +1 Jit, Vishnu and others..great work. Congrats
09:42 Chandrashekhar : i was about asK Jit
09:42 Srinivas : is it the FII shorts Jit?
09:42 Chandrashekhar : system got hung in between..
09:42 Chandrashekhar : can you explain please
09:42 Gopi : same to me
09:43 Vishnu : kk that first 60k added some then second in next 60k but lesser lot due to yest wild move . scratched only 0.23 dt but am happy
09:44 Jitender : pls see the selling or tails at 910-930 zone fr last 3 days……u get 750 bps with a gap anf high (actually DT on a 1 min tf) tere…so wat do u do
09:44 Uttam : the next 5min bar ended with a -1.4L COT Srinivas – (09:40) Gopi : uttam i could able to locate only one -65k
09:44 Jitender : the 750 points proft guys will book
09:44 Jitender : the r/r was fantastice
09:44 Vishnu : shai good vol we have and -72 k cot . if b goes above that a high then trend up witht his vol happen?
09:44 Srinivas : +1 yes, thats when I got more conviction and added to the pos
09:44 Uttam : yes 30900 is a HVN in BNF
09:45 Uttam : super trade Jit
09:45 Vishnu : +100 jittt
09:45 Jitender : keep it simple
09:45 Jitender : tx Uttam
09:45 Jitender : guys..all yr trades need to be first justified in yr head..with logic n r/r
09:45 Jitender : ten hit f1/f2
09:45 Jitender : simple
09:45 Chandrashekhar : thata awesome analysis and your presence jit, lots to learn from
09:46 Vijay : superb Jit
09:46 Uttam : BNF low 30662
09:46 Jitender : cheers gentlement
09:46 Jitender : +1 to VT
09:46 Srinivas : +1 sticking to only NF as I need more practice on these charts and fast fingers to trade BNF 😉
09:47 Jitender : ys Sri always do wat u r comfy with
09:47 Srinivas : +1
09:48 Jitender : Himanshu..if 720 holds …u will get one more try to DH
09:48 Jitender : take tat as day pivot fr now
09:48 Himanshu : Ok
09:48 Himanshu : Jit +1
09:48 Boppanna : First trade vwap bounce rej and 80
09:49 Boppanna : BNF
09:49 Shai : 12101 supply also
09:49 Shai : should test 12062
09:50 Ketan : thanks shai for that update i am short !
09:51 Shai : +1
09:51 Shai : Never mess with a 1 L Cot plus or minus is Rule no 1
09:51 Shai : Rule no 2 is never forget rule no 1
09:51 Vijay : +100 shai
09:52 Rajan : +1 Shai
09:52 Sachin : Warren Shai 😉
09:52 Srinivas : 😉 Pro Tip +1
09:52 Vishnu : smeone entered
09:52 Boppanna : Watch that Uttam’s low in BNF if goes in B then BNF in trouble again else 650-950 play mostly IMO
09:52 Shai : NF back to day lows on the neg COT
09:52 Chandrashekhar : +100 SHai
09:52 Jitender : after marriage everybody is reminded of thoose 2 rules…… constantly !
09:53 Boppanna : Well played Jit
09:53 Amit null : true that but
09:53 Jitender : tx mate
09:53 Jitender : mates
09:54 Ankit : didnt book profits on time in the morning.. matter of seconds….
09:54 Ankit : now back
09:54 Ankit : -DT to 0
09:54 Ketan : almost done ! thanks for the update ! @jit excellent trade. , 30975 ., hope you remembered from last week., as of yesteray we were at 30925 on feb series wgt avg.
09:54 Jitender : gd fr u Ketan
09:54 KK : that 28K red at the lows could get atuck
09:55 Ketan : nifty was at 12115., i sold after the neg COT .,
09:55 Jitender : +1
09:55 Shai : 12066- (09:49) Shai : should test 12062
09:55 KK : if 12062 is to be protected
09:55 Shai : close for now
09:55 Shai : next shorts below 12060 only for 12028 sl of 12077
09:55 Jitender : guys…another eg of Ketan havn his system and stickn to it
09:56 Rajan : +1 for Ketan
09:56 Srinivas : +1 Ketan, what is your system COT threshold for trigger?
09:57 KK : nice, just give 12093 , then trip from 12070 to 12093 complete. small one, but going by the range
09:58 Jitender : will just share were i was off 2 yday after 1.20
09:58 Jitender : met an insti guy whoose launchn his own AIF
09:59 Jitender : he had 15 screens on his seat…12 strategies…diff TF all running on algo’s
09:59 Ankit : his name?
09:59 Jitender : n 21 employees ..each with 4 monitor setup runn diff colormoney
09:59 Ankit : @jit
09:59 Ketan : thank all ! @ srinivas., i follow shais MP / OF rules ., to trade at my levels. if both match then take trade.
10:00 Jitender : will tell u
10:00 Ankit : harjeet singh?
10:00 Jitender : nope
10:00 Jitender : doesnt like publicity at all
10:01 Jitender : one of the guys i know is investn big with him and had audited his systems fr 3 months…yday tey were closn the deal
10:01 Srinivas : thx @Ketan
10:01 Jitender : but mind blowing to see the setup
10:01 Jitender : btw all coding fr algo etc was in c++
10:01 Ankit : always in the market kind of system?
10:02 Boppanna : what does he trade?
10:02 Jitender : u can say tat Ankit
10:02 Jitender : BoPs wat i saw was just options…weekly & monthly
10:02 Boppanna : ok
10:02 Jitender : stock portfolio must be diff
10:02 Ankit : okay
10:03 Jitender : btw after an hr of discussion..he offered yr bro to join…though subtly 🙂
10:04 Ankit : hehe
10:04 Ankit : if you ever make up such a mind.. do let me know
10:04 Ankit : 🙂
10:04 Ankit : better doing of own than going with someone else
10:04 Prakash : Shai, some fine day you should also show us your system set up 🙂 am sure ntohing less than what Jit has seen
10:04 Jitender : u will finance me Ankit 🙂
10:04 Ankit : dont worry about that 🙂
10:05 Ankit : to give a brief… i started AIF3 myself.. and an FPI. Fully funded by my investors. but du eo tunfortunate events… i moved out of it 🙂
10:05 Boppanna : 😉 Jit did he know ur algo hunter
10:05 Boppanna : *u r an
10:05 Ankit : *ignore the spelling mistakes
10:06 Jitender : grt Ankit
10:06 Rajan : We can always start another AIF Ankit
10:06 Ankit : thx jit
10:07 Vishnu : aif means
10:07 Ankit : yes rajan, if shai/jit/UG come together…. i am willing to take that risk again
10:07 Ankit : 🙂
10:07 Rajan : Amen
10:07 Jitender : have been after Shai fr last 4 years to do just tat
10:07 Srinivas : +1 Renaissance model, all in 😉
10:07 Rajan : Lets discuss this during Delhi workshop
10:08 Jitender : Start trek type office…with Axelrod type returns 🙂
10:08 Ankit : hehe i discussed with shai the same in mumbai workshop.
10:08 Ankit : haha AXELROD
10:08 Ankit : you just gacve the right name
10:08 Chandrashekhar : Booby Axelrod??
10:08 Ankit : yes
10:08 Chandrashekhar : bobby*
10:09 Chandrashekhar : sorry for the typo..
10:09 Jitender : chalo..lets get back to mkts
10:09 Ankit : i have my algos in place as well …always in the market.. but scalability is only upto 200 cr
10:09 Jitender : just thought to share…so tat ppl know the universe out tere is huge
10:09 Ankit : thx jit 🙂
10:09 Jitender : grt Ankit
10:10 Jitender : tx 22 u also 🙂
10:10 Jitender : single 2*
10:10 Jitender : 🙂
10:10 Srinivas : good education for us @Jit, we know who is on the other side 😉
10:10 Rajan : +1 Jit & Ankit
10:10 Lakshay : yes we get overwhelmed by you and you get by some other guy…..miles to go before we sleep
10:10 Himanshu : NF spot wants to break 12061
10:12 Jitender : wasnt over whelmed Lakshay..have seen a 700 screen off setup also…the beaut yday was …it was runn on algo’s
10:12 Ankit : yea no big deal
10:13 Ankit : i have 8 screen set up at my home all runningon algos 🙂
10:14 Prateeek null : Maruti anyone. I shorted this morning. uttam?
10:14 Jitender : +1 Ankit
10:14 Ankit : may be will share a pic on slack
10:14 Ankit : thx jit 🙂
10:14 Lakshay : nice
10:14 Jitender : pls do
10:15 Jitender : wenever i see anyth..first instinct is to share with VT n friends here
10:15 Ankit : la familia
10:15 Boppanna : +1 Jit thx for the share
10:15 Jitender : _/\_
10:16 Ketan : @ankit super
10:16 Ketan : @jit thanks for the share., its inspiring.
10:17 Jitender : +1
10:17 Boppanna : 21 employees since he began Jit scaling each year?
10:17 Ankit : thx ketan
10:17 Jitender : didnt get to tat part BoPs
10:17 Sagar : 30500 call from 219 to 420 today morning :
10:17 Jitender : congo Sagar
10:18 Sagar : THanks Jit
10:18 Boppanna : +1
10:18 Ankit : if 21 employees with algo set ups…. he is never going to be profitable as an AMC even with 2-20 model (which he wont get anyway)
10:19 Jitender : multple platforms..he runs commodities as well is in SGX & Dubai exchange also
10:19 Jitender : has off tere
10:19 Jitender : so sum stations were monitoring tere on TV
10:19 Jitender : teamviwer (or similar)
10:19 Jitender : as far i cud gather
10:20 Govind : JIt, I have a question
10:20 Jitender : shoot
10:21 Govind : Do domestic prof traders (like your friend) have exceptions from the RBI remittance rule?
10:21 Govind : Meaning, we are not allowed to trade margins in foreign futures
10:21 Govind : but if you are an NRI, you can
10:22 Jitender : ys..nt currently
10:22 Jitender : or if u r in GIFT city
10:22 Govind : Oh ok.
10:22 Govind : Thanks
10:23 Jitender : wc
10:24 Chandrashekhar : that 29 K green SL Uttam?
10:24 Vishnu : 0s at ibl
10:24 Chandrashekhar : 59K sorry
10:25 Boppanna : Shai BNF 5min needs a refresh
10:25 Jitender : waghe gvs a sell on maruti at 6671
10:25 Jitender : waghle
10:27 Prateeek null : waghle? who?
10:27 Shai : Intra – short NF 12058 sl pf 12082 tgt 12028
10:27 Jitender : nobody Prateek
10:29 Jitender : 30.5ce 231-255
10:29 Govind : thanks Uttam
10:30 Uttam : C side here in both
10:30 Uttam : BNF wants to give a FA?
10:30 Uttam : or gonna go down more?
10:44 Jitender : *261 not 361 (09:32) Jitender : wakao
10:46 Shai : Updfate – Make a quick exit in the NF at 12071 cmp
10:46 Shai : supply dried up post entry
10:46 Shai : think may do 12098 again
10:48 Shai : Just read back the comments posted earlier
10:49 Shai : Guys don’t get carried away by all this talk of Algos etc
10:49 Shai : And people having big screens and huge setups
10:49 Shai : They break down as often as they come also
10:49 Shai : I know a lot of guys in BKC personally who opened last 2 years and are not on the scene today
10:50 Shai : one 3 signal move is enough to wipe out most of these guys
10:50 Ankit : On point!
10:50 Shai : One guy on budget day rubbing a 16 mmeber team lost 26 CR
10:50 Ankit : 1% per day…. what else and why else you need anything else.
10:50 Shai : on1 day
10:50 Shai : I know cos I started him off
10:51 Shai : It looks good and shiny
10:51 Shai : but the other side is also not good
10:51 Jitender : *3 sigma (10:50) Shai : one 3 signal move is enough to wipe out most of these guys
10:51 Jitender : tx Shai fr the perpectv
10:51 Shai : 3 sigma yes
10:51 Ankit : yes
10:51 Shai : most of these models are scaled on following pricer
10:52 Shai : they are good uptoa certain level
10:52 Shai : but not every strategy can be used to go big as in over 100 CR
10:52 Shai : people think they know it all and this is child’s play
10:52 Shai : It’s not
10:52 Jitender : with the setup or career ? (10:50) Shai : I know cos I started him off
10:53 Shai : just a consult on his methods
10:53 Shai : csame from a ref
10:53 Shai : didn’t think too high of it even then and told him to be careful
10:53 Ankit : @shai beautifully summarised 🙂 i couldnt agree more with each word
10:53 Jitender : k
10:54 Jitender : he offered him a part…once he saw my ledger…my DT system was way higher in returns tat his best client ledger….but m on a fixed capital…and his was on 300cr+….
10:55 Jitender : always wonder on scalability….
10:55 Jitender : the returns do get reduced as we mitigate risk more
10:55 Jitender : but was more keen to see if scalability across platforms n instruments is feasible to wat extent
10:56 Shai : 12093/ 98 doable here
10:56 Jitender : *offered me (not him)
10:56 Shai : have to study his model – (10:55) Jitender : but was more keen to see if scalability across platforms n instruments is feasible to wat extent
10:57 Shai : his tiem frame also
10:57 Shai : there are lost of variables
10:57 Jitender : yes
10:57 Ankit : @jit if you are making 1ac per day as PBT here… no% of part can compensate you for that. Moreover, the burden compliance would be immense
10:57 Jitender : so he was running on weekly, daily, 30mins, & 3mins…..
10:58 Jitender : Ankit..i make more than tat…just sayn…n sorry to be im modest
10:58 Ankit : Then its all the more non lucrative for you 🙂
10:59 Jitender : tat i hope is the case 🙂
10:59 Ankit : my frnd has a 1600 cr AUM with 1% mgt fee with 7 cr of opex
11:00 Ankit : kya hi fayda
11:00 Jitender : look at net numbers…lower capital can do more %age….
11:00 Jitender : but lets take it offline
11:00 Jitender : let room focus on mkts
11:00 Ankit : sure
11:01 Shai : yes come back to markets
11:01 Shai : more 2 way now
11:01 Uttam : C side extension playing out well in both
11:01 Uttam : tags VWAP
11:01 Shai : (10:46) Shai : supply dried up post entry(10:46) Shai : think may do 12098 again
11:01 Chandrashekhar : +1 Uttam
11:02 Shai : 12090- (10:56) Shai : 12093/ 98 doable here
11:02 Uttam : +1 Shai
11:02 Shai : 12101 is the second of the 2 sellers
11:04 Vishnu : https://vtrender.slack.com/archives/C0F2VRTPW/p1582089466189100
11:08 Boppanna : 100 from C low 652 took 60 pts on that 09:52 Boppanna: Watch that Uttam’s low in BNF if goes in B then BNF in trouble again else 650-950 mostly IMO
11:11 Jitender : +1
11:12 Uttam : congo Bops
11:14 Govind : Congo Bops
11:14 Boppanna : thx..now could stay in 650-760 range for some time for the next move unless Uttam puts his foot down 😉
11:15 Vishnu : congo bops
11:17 Uttam : Fa in both wouldb e nice
11:17 Uttam : will set up the expiry week nicely
11:17 Uttam : wth RO oint at 12044 & 30726
11:18 Uttam : and with Trump coming too next week 😉
11:18 Uttam : BNF gettin reds here
11:18 Uttam : supply getting absorbed?
11:20 Ankit : volumes hv reduced
11:26 Boppanna : Uttam u expecting a dull one tomorrw expiry BNF?
11:30 Uttam : could be Bops but expecting a nice expiry week so now looking at only the monthyl options now to trade
11:30 Boppanna : ok cool
11:31 Srinivas : charts updating for you guys?
11:32 Srinivas : mine are stuck
11:32 Uttam : refresh once Srinivas, working fine for me
11:32 Srinivas : how do I refresh, relaunch again?
11:33 Ankit : not working for me as well
11:33 Boppanna : hmm charts stuck here as well
11:33 Govind : click on the red X sign
11:33 Sagar : chart stuck ?
11:33 Govind : right top corner
11:33 Srinivas : +1
11:34 Srinivas : relaunched and reloaded but no luck
11:35 Govind : they seem stuck
11:35 Ankit : go to working now
11:40 Vishnu : done ref but not working
11:41 Jitender : 6659-6715…half book (10:25) Jitender : waghe gvs a sell on maruti at 6671
11:42 Boppanna : +1 Jit ur indicator still strong 🙂
11:43 Uttam : waghle ki duniya kyun barbaad kar rahe ho Jit 😉
11:43 Pritesh : 🙂
11:43 Jitender : 🙂
11:44 Jitender : barbad to retailers ko wo kr raha hai…..i just smell BS better 🙂
11:44 Uttam : 🙂 +1
11:45 Manoj : my screen is blank.. anybody facing this issue ?
11:45 Nagaraj Hegde : Charts stuck. Can somebody share the goto link pls..
11:45 Rajesh shankar : same here
11:46 Govind : guys, look in tab A for the links
11:46 Nagaraj Hegde : Got it. Thanks.
11:50 Bhaskar : no screen
11:50 Manoj : Nothing on the screen here
11:53 Boppanna : looks like an outage have to wait for Shai gotomeeting is working
11:56 Jitender : full book 6730 🙂 (11:41) Jitender : 6659-6715…half book (10:25) Jitender : waghe gvs a sell on maruti at 6671
12:00 Govind : BNF wants to touch vwap but struggling
12:01 Uttam : Bops needs to take his hammer out
12:03 Jitender : yup…spike time cometh
12:03 Govind : low volumes
12:04 Govind : needs a push above 750/770
12:05 Govind : Wonder if NSE will remove YESB from BNF too
12:06 Uttam : wow its still there in it 😉
12:06 MJ : Yes Gov should go out.
12:06 Govind : Yeah Uttam, makes no sense to remove it from NF but not BNF
12:08 Uttam : NF needs to get above 12103
12:08 Uttam : BNf above 30775
12:09 Govind : +1
12:10 KK : BNF in such a narrow congestion zone, either 775 above or below 680 break ?
12:13 Uttam : boom boom?
12:13 Uttam : but greens at top in both
12:13 Uttam : SL of shorts looks like
12:14 Govind : 30730 to 30782
12:14 Govind : first one of the day, damn
12:14 Uttam : 0s at vwap in BNF
12:14 Uttam : Bops ka hammer aa gya 🙂
12:14 MJ : 14k at top sl?
12:15 Govind : that 14k green is slowing this down
12:15 Rajeshwar mutyapu : If we doesnt break todays highs, expect some correction from there and would be the last dip of present downmove, expect markets to make new highs from there, may be to 12900+ in coming weeks
12:15 Uttam : 12100pe monthly from 87 to 81
12:15 Govind : looks like a cover
12:16 Jitender : congo Uttam
12:16 Uttam : thanks Jit 🙂
12:17 Boppanna : +1
12:19 KK : not able to sustain ?
12:19 Uttam : 12100ce from 81 to 84
12:19 Uttam : removed 50%
12:20 Uttam : to reduce risk
12:21 Ankit : FA high probable uttam?
12:21 Ankit : nf
12:22 Uttam : (11:17) Uttam : Fa in both wouldb e nice(11:17) Uttam : will set up the expiry week nicely
12:22 Ankit : thanks UG
12:22 Uttam : Nf needs to sustain above 12103
12:23 Uttam : absorbing supply looks like?
12:23 Uttam : BNF that 14k red stalling the move up for now
12:23 Uttam : all out on that 12100ce
12:23 Sagar : @uttam i am cnofuse that 14 red ior green
12:24 Boppanna : 14K green Sagar its a typo
12:24 Uttam : Bops came & BNF waking up
12:24 Uttam : yes sorry 14k green
12:24 Uttam : boom boom bola tha na 😉
12:25 Uttam : 0s in both
12:25 Uttam : 40k green in NF
12:25 Uttam : early exit 🙁 – (12:23) Uttam : all out on that 12100ce
12:26 Uttam : lets go boys – (12:08) Uttam : NF needs to get above 12103(12:08) Uttam : BNf above 30775
12:26 Uttam : 30780 & 12103 now ref
12:27 Boppanna : half out 760-820
12:27 Uttam : lets see if we can tag 12130 & what OF shows us there
12:27 Uttam : wah Bops kya hammer kiya hai 🙂
12:28 Boppanna : u held vwap no Uttam in BNF
12:28 Jitender : (09:48) Jitender : Himanshu..if 720 holds …u will get one more try to DH
12:28 Himanshu : yes
12:28 KK : BNF 30500 CE 295 to 340
12:28 Uttam : 30855 needs to be taken out now
12:28 Uttam : imp ref
12:28 Himanshu : so did 30500 PE /30400 PE 65- 25 & 42- 15
12:28 Uttam : 12130 in NF it goes then 12165 coming
12:28 Uttam : super Himanshu 🙂 congrats
12:29 Himanshu : Jit *& UG Thanks
12:29 Jitender : wc n congo
12:29 Himanshu : Jitubhai
12:29 KK : NF in singles..
12:29 Uttam : @KK today’s singles not that important as we gapped uo & saw profit booking
12:29 Uttam : was not an initiative tail
12:30 Jitender : plan told at 9.48 (12:28) Jitender : (09:48) Jitender : Himanshu..if 720 holds …u will get one more try to DH
12:30 Uttam : yesterdays was an initiative one
12:30 Jitender : tats hw yr systems shld wrk
12:30 Boppanna : +100 Jit
12:31 Uttam : 30780 test coming?
12:31 Uttam : sorry almost done
12:31 Boppanna : whats 855 Uttam?
12:31 Uttam : guys see how in 5mins you can see those 0s holding the move lower for now
12:32 Uttam : @Bops its actually a HVZ from 30835-30870
12:33 Uttam : took the centre point 😉
12:33 Boppanna : ok thx
12:35 Uttam : both holding for now – (12:26) Uttam : 30780 & 12103 now ref
12:35 Uttam : Bops’s ‘H’ for hammer giving extension handle?
12:36 Uttam : you have 8 mins to decide
12:37 Uttam : if H not giving an ext handle then one visit to 12084 & 30750 coming
12:37 Jitender : 6750 now (11:44) Jitender : barbad to retailers ko wo kr raha hai…..i just smell BS better :)(11:56) Jitender : full book 6730 🙂 (11:41) Jitender : 6659-6715…half book (10:25) Jitender : waghe gvs a sell on maruti at 6671
12:37 Jitender : see QED
12:37 Uttam : lol Wagle lagta hai reversal karwa ke hi maanega Maruit mein
12:38 Uttam : Maruti shareholders must have paid him to give a sell call 😉
12:38 Jitender : as i say right filter fr BS
12:38 Jitender : n tv pays
12:41 Himanshu : Boom Boom
12:41 Himanshu : Bopp – Push
12:41 Himanshu : upper MB
12:41 Uttam : looks like Bops has decided – (12:35) Uttam : Bops’s ‘H’ for hammer giving extension handle?(12:36) Uttam : you have 8 mins to decide
12:42 Uttam : 16k green in BNf & 18k red in NF
12:43 MJ : Uttam disha do.
12:43 MJ : I mean direction.
12:43 KK : +1 UG
12:43 MJ : 😛
12:43 Uttam : lol MJ was typing asking who Disha is
12:43 Uttam : dish was given here – (12:08) Uttam : NF needs to get above 12103(12:08) Uttam : BNf above 30775
12:44 Uttam : disha*
12:44 Uttam : now 12130 & 30855 on watch
12:44 Himanshu : ye lo
12:44 Himanshu : Disha
12:44 MJ : Is this himanshu (old one)?
12:44 Uttam : 12:46
12:44 MJ : Baroda wala?
12:45 MJ : Badhao badhao 🙂 ces hai.
12:45 Uttam : and Bops makes his presence felt yet again
12:45 Uttam : 30852 so far
12:45 Uttam : NF finishing the race first
12:45 Uttam : FA about to get confrimed there
12:46 Ankit : 1 atr TARGET UTTAM?
12:46 Gopi : thanks uttam @ i could able to read charts today
12:46 Uttam : yeh daily FA nahi weekly karna hai Ankit
12:46 Boppanna : all out next trade only above 950
12:46 Uttam : so looking at 12290 next week
12:46 Ankit : haha aapke muh mein ghee shakkar
12:47 Uttam : daily 1atr comes to 12185
12:47 Ankit : thnks
12:47 Uttam : sabka SL nikal gaya lagta hai in that 47k green at 12125
12:47 MJ : 46k y u come now? (nf)
12:47 Uttam : SL wahin aayega na MJ 😉
12:47 MJ : 😉
12:48 Uttam : (12:27) Uttam : lets see if we can tag 12130 & what OF shows us there(12:28) Uttam : 30855 needs to be taken out now
12:49 Uttam : boom boom
12:49 Uttam : 1.3L red in NF
12:49 MJ : 11920-30 guy booked?
12:49 Ankit : 1.3 damn
12:49 Vishnu : 1.4 lakh seller
12:49 Ketan : thanks uttam ! good call ! 11900 ce 201-221
12:49 Ankit : lets see what happens in next 5 mins
12:49 Lakshay : refresh?
12:50 Uttam : super Ketan 🙂 congrats
12:50 Ketan : 1 lakh guy
12:50 Ketan : got out of all
12:50 MJ : all out
12:50 Boppanna : congrts all
12:50 MJ : booekd.
12:50 Uttam : yes -1.4L COT in this bar
12:50 Uttam : congo MJ & Bops
12:50 MJ : Cheerio!
12:51 Uttam : below 12120 NF can test 12103 & 12085
12:51 Uttam : lets see how this bar closes
12:52 Uttam : 12100 OI crossover happening
12:56 Uttam : BNF not supporting
12:56 Bhavani : 1.6 lakh seller might be the booking of longs
12:56 Uttam : 12165 coming?
12:57 Rajeshwar mutyapu : 12203 would be possible
12:58 Uttam : Bops booked out so BNF not moving
12:58 KK : bnf not crossing the open
12:59 Boppanna : lol Uttam wish my 4 lots had that much power 🙂
12:59 Uttam : not the lots Bops its you intention to move BNF which makes it move
13:00 Boppanna : all ur HVN zone 835-870 ka kamaal slow down
13:00 MJ : Late bloomer? Bng
13:00 Uttam : Bops ‘H’ is still on
13:02 Uttam : is that 1.2L guy a roll?
13:04 MJ : vols in march too
13:05 MJ : Bossman needs to confirm,
13:09 Uttam : low in this dip so far 12121 – (12:51) Uttam : below 12120 NF can test 12103 & 12085
13:09 Uttam : BNf looking ready?
13:09 Uttam : overlapping POC on 5mins at 30850
13:11 Pritesh : BNF Not looking strong
13:15 Boppanna : +1 that 20800ce needs a push above 150 for quick 20+
13:15 Boppanna : *30800ce
13:15 Ankit : neu?
13:19 Uttam : 12120 being defended
13:20 Ankit : now either take out 12132 or 12120
13:26 Ketan : scratched 30900 pe 170-189 on the H
13:27 Vijay : 12200pe 87-100 50% out
13:28 Jitender : +1 guys
13:28 Vijay : that 1L COT gave conviction
13:28 Uttam : congrats Ketan & Vijay 🙂
13:28 Jitender : ys
13:28 Jitender : 31k pe 221-262 myself
13:28 Ketan : thanks jit/ uttam my reference was H period wgt avg was the high for the G ., so far
13:29 Ketan : for the I so far
13:29 Govind : Does not look like that 1 lac guy was a roll, but best for Shai to confirm
13:29 Vijay : thanks Jit & UG
13:29 Uttam : yes Gov but does look like a booking & not new business
13:29 Srinivas : Congrats Vijay
13:29 Vijay : Thanks
13:29 Srinivas : I am riding 12.1 PE still from 55
13:30 Govind : Ok Uttam
13:32 Srinivas : 12150 PE 55-60 out now
13:32 Jitender : +1
13:32 Uttam : congrats Srinivas
13:32 Srinivas : thanks @Jit & @UG
13:33 Uttam : BNF holding 30780 is keeping NF also from going down
13:33 Uttam : 6k red stuck right there in BNF at 30785
13:34 Govind : filling needed in NF Uttam?
13:34 Vijay : 108 all out in 12200pe
13:35 Rajeshwar mutyapu : made everyones SL hit, now bringing down
13:35 Uttam : 12103 low so far – (12:51) Uttam : below 12120 NF can test 12103 & 12085
13:35 KK : 12200 PE 99 to 110
13:35 Uttam : 17k red stuck in NF at 12103
13:36 Vijay : congo KK
13:36 Uttam : -50k COT here in this bar
13:36 Srinivas : +1 KK… patience pays, I exited little early
13:37 Himanshu : Trip to 12064
13:37 Himanshu : UG
13:39 Ketan : shai / jit / uttam at this moment 71 lakhs new puts have been added ., what is your guys take if 12080 future is taken out !
13:39 Ankit : neu it is
13:39 KK : now PE either 12.1K breaks or check around 12120 COT ?
13:40 Sagar : 12100 PE from 31 to 40
13:40 Srinivas : Congrats Sagar
13:41 Jitender : Ketan i dont look at OI much
13:41 Jitender : congo Sagar
13:42 Ketan : @ jit ok thanks
13:43 Sagar : THanks Guys
13:43 Uttam : congrats Sagar
13:43 Sagar : Thanks @uttam
13:44 Sagar : i tried this trade by drawing trend line and it worked
13:44 Uttam : Sagar sorry but we have much better tools for trades here 😉
13:44 Sagar : yeah i agree 🙂
13:45 Sagar : 41 k neg COT was supportive 🙂
13:45 Vijay : 12200pe again 108-119
13:45 Uttam : VWap here in NF
13:45 Uttam : (12:51) Uttam : below 12120 NF can test 12103 & 12085
13:45 Govind : now on watch 30710/700
13:46 KK : going upside down
13:47 Uttam : you know whom to blame for this fall – (12:58) Uttam : Bops booked out so BNF not moving
13:47 Vijay : LOL
13:47 Ankit : hehe
13:47 Uttam : both have 0s at lows in this 5min bar
13:48 Uttam : if stays anove vwap another trip to 12120 & 30850 could come
13:48 Uttam : NF wants to tag 12085
13:49 Uttam : will be back in 15mins
13:50 Vishnu : @ jit bnf view man
13:51 Jitender : 720-855
13:51 Jitender : close n mayb open in it
13:52 Boppanna : IMO If BNF gets above 830 I wouldn’t short
13:53 Sagar : NF another test to 12130 ?
13:56 KK : 0s
13:57 Vishnu : jit bnf for next level
13:59 Vijay : 12120 acting as immediate resistance now?
13:59 Govind : that is a crazy 5 min doji bar in BNF
13:59 Jitender : didnt get u Vishnu
13:59 Vishnu : 855 above
14:00 Jitender : o r askn or telln 🙂
14:00 Jitender : u
14:00 Vishnu : asking bro
14:01 Jitender : 910-940
14:09 Shai : Going for a neut center looks like
14:10 Shai : At the moment alos lo0oks like expiry m,ay be 12100 spot tom
14:10 Sagar : 12100 CE from 36 to 41
14:10 Ankit : +1 sagar
14:11 Vishnu : bnf shai
14:11 Vijay : +sagar
14:12 Shai : BNf little lower around 30680
14:12 Shai : but trade the chart
14:13 Shai : these days with so much option vols things change quickly
14:13 Shai : expmaple was yesterday at close in 12000 ce
14:14 Vishnu : yess
14:22 Pritesh : Today it was like aajaa phasajaa
14:22 Vishnu : shai that big seller roll or rs
14:23 Pritesh : BNF 31K CE is still above the 50..
14:24 Uttam : Neutral Extreme please Shai 😉 – (14:09) Shai : Going for a neut center looks like
14:26 Uttam : 12126 & 30842 came in both – (13:47) Uttam : both have 0s at lows in this 5min bar(13:48) Uttam : if stays anove vwap another trip to 12120 & 30850 could come
14:28 Uttam : nice balance in both
14:28 Uttam : BNF such a tempting bell
14:28 Ankit : hehe sahi mein
14:30 Jitender : always onUttam’s mind ….69 (14:28) Uttam : BNF such a tempting bell
14:30 Uttam : lol Jit
14:30 Vijay : lol
14:32 Govind : BNF is set up nicely for an upmove, IMO
14:35 Uttam : giving 31k darshan today Gov?
14:36 Uttam : 31067 actually
14:36 Govind : not with these blood long wicks in the 5 min bars UG
14:36 Govind : bloody*
14:36 Uttam : 2:45 aane do
14:37 Govind : 31067 would be sweet, been in it patiently since 30780
14:37 Govind : look at those candles, price is moving up and down like a stripper’s pole
14:37 Uttam : one test of 30730 before tht would be even more nice
14:38 Uttam : lol – (14:37) Govind : look at those candles, price is moving up and down like a stripper’s pole
14:38 Uttam : Jit finished his DT so having fun with the order book here
14:38 Govind : probably 🙂
14:39 Govind : 730 is dpoc right?
14:39 Jitender : twice+ (14:38) Uttam : Jit finished his DT so having fun with the order book here
14:40 Govind : Congrats Jit
14:40 Govind : today has been a battle for me since I missed the big short
14:41 Uttam : i knew it 😉 congo Jit to triple kahmba on today evening
14:41 Jitender : tx
14:41 Pritesh : Nice Jit
14:41 Pritesh : congrats..
14:41 Himanshu : Jituabhai Congrates
14:42 Jitender : tx guys
14:42 Himanshu : Aaj mein bhi cool huin
14:42 Himanshu : no mistakes of yesterdays
14:42 Srinivas : congrats @Jit
14:42 Himanshu : 30400/30500 PEs
14:42 Uttam : nice Himanshu
14:42 Srinivas : +1 Himansu
14:42 Jitender : tx Sri
14:42 Jitender : +1 H
14:43 Himanshu : After you and UG deecided to make base at 720 Dpoc
14:43 Himanshu : Srini Thx – Whstsupp
14:43 Jitender : bases r my forte 🙂
14:43 Pritesh : BNF it’s 245 now
14:43 Jitender : Uttam goes fr bell
14:43 Himanshu : Thinkijg to sort 30600 PE now but waiting for move
14:45 Govind : Congrats Himmy
14:46 Himanshu : Gov – IB is 277 Points do we get extesnion still st already 2.50
14:46 Himanshu : Thanks Govind
14:47 Himanshu : The Beast – that it is BNF it can
14:47 Govind : my target is a bit modest H, 30780 to possibly 30860
14:47 Jitender : voda BG nt be enchased fr nw
14:47 Govind : if it takes out 30860, then DH
14:48 Uttam : boom boom coming?
14:48 Govind : Hulk time
14:48 Himanshu : 15K green in this bar
14:48 Govind : come on UG
14:49 Pritesh : gone
14:49 Govind : got my target
14:49 Shai : 12138 ref
14:49 Govind : 30780 to 860
14:49 Govind : and my DT
14:49 Uttam : congo Gov
14:49 Boppanna : one push above 150 30800ce thx
14:49 Govind : damn
14:49 Govind : Thanks UG
14:50 KK : I am just going to trail SL in this till 3 05
14:50 Uttam : (14:24) Uttam : Neutral Extreme please Shai 😉 – (14:09) Shai : Going for a neut center looks like(14:36) Uttam : 2:45 aane do
14:50 Jitender : (14:47) Jitender : voda BG nt be enchased fr nw
14:51 Himanshu : Missed Entry at 44 30600 PE
14:51 Himanshu : now 37 –
14:51 Himanshu : will not chase
14:51 Himanshu : cause centrel close will kick me out
14:52 Govind : NF making new highs
14:52 Shai : 12136 supp if chasing longs
14:52 Himanshu : 12100 ce wil be unwinding now
14:53 Uttam : 12100ce OI falling
14:53 Govind : HDFCB up 1%, could mean FII money
14:53 Uttam : 55k red in NF
14:54 Shai : 20 point trade belwo 12136 for 12117 sl of 12144
14:54 Himanshu : 12100CE dropping from tripple peak 54
14:57 Jitender : UG…wagle made maruti bounce by full 100
14:57 KK : if it gives both ways..best day Shai..+1
14:58 Uttam : lol Jit so reversal confirmed in Maruti 😉
14:58 Shai : 12145 sl
14:58 Shai : part bookinmg orders kept at 12123
14:59 Vishnu : shai looking todays profile tom any imbalnce ?
14:59 Uttam : 3 fat ladies stalling BNF?
14:59 Uttam : 30888
15:00 Shai : depends on open Vishnu
15:00 Shai : b/g is neutral
15:00 Uttam : a) BNF needs to sustain above 30600 for a rise to 30655 / 30720-750* / 30805-820 & 30885-902
15:02 Uttam : BNF has that last leg left?
15:02 Uttam : Jit giving 3:05 move before expiry today??
15:02 Jitender : dne fr the day
15:02 Uttam : yes all out this side too
15:02 Uttam : no more trades
15:03 Shai : scrtachd trade
15:04 Uttam : BNF looks like will shift the dPOC arounf 30830-850 by close
15:10 Uttam : nice DD profile so far in both NF & BNF for this week and as Friday is a holiday week closing tom
15:10 Uttam : Mon & today similar kind of auction and levels
15:12 Jitender : (13:50) Vishnu : @ jit bnf view man(13:51) Jitender : 720-855(13:51) Jitender : close n mayb open in it
15:13 Uttam : NF doing a Neutral EXtreme
15:13 Uttam : but not spiking
15:14 Uttam : 17k green
15:14 Uttam : 33k COT
15:14 Uttam : fresh buyers in NF?
15:14 Uttam : 12159 coming?
15:16 Vishnu : +1 jit
15:21 Shai : NE it is then
15:21 Shai : fine
15:21 Shai : better setups tom to trade
15:22 Shai : that stall at 12135 would make it a supp for early tom
15:22 Shai : prem is still 16
15:22 Boppanna : Shai BNF worth carrying longs?
15:23 Pritesh : Anything to carry ?
15:23 Shai : No bopp
15:23 Gopi : can we carry longs ? NF
15:23 Shai : we don’t carry on neut ext
15:23 Boppanna : ok thx for confirming
15:24 Vishnu : we have a fa at 12046 which 1 atr comes at 12185 range
15:25 Uttam : staying above 12159 tom I will be looking for 12290 next week
15:25 Uttam : we would be having a weekly FA too
15:25 Uttam : BNF also looks set fro a move
15:25 Ankit : _/\_
15:28 Uttam : done – (15:04) Uttam : BNF looks like will shift the dPOC arounf 30830-850 by close
15:28 Uttam : 30846 dPOC
15:29 Uttam : thanks All 🙂 have a lovely evening
15:29 Shai : Bye all
15:29 Uttam : looks like will be a good day to trade tom
15:29 Shai : Have a nic evening
15:29 Ketan : have a good day ! thanks everyone ! congrats to all !
15:29 Ankit : see you all
15:29 Rajan : Thanks all
15:33 Himanshu : Bye all