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08:53 Chandrashekhar : GM all
08:54 Arcchit Agarwal : GM All
09:02 Muralidhar : GM all…
09:08 Aditya09 : gm all happy trading
09:08 Prateeek : Good morning all.
09:08 Arjun : GM All
09:09 Shai : GM all
09:10 Shai : 11865 to be our ref line for the open today
09:10 Shai : watch for the ability to stay below 11795 which should invite more selelrs today
09:10 Shai : 11703 lower upp zone is good
09:10 Raveendra : gm all
09:10 Shai : Above 11865 can go back to 11945 and 1027
09:11 Uttam : 11945 & 12027 Shai?
09:12 Uttam : Good Morning All 🙂
09:12 Shai : 12027**
09:12 Uttam : +1 thanks
09:15 Chandrashekhar : O-H in both
09:16 Ankush Jain : yes
09:17 Arjun : room chart struck ? joinme working fine for me
09:19 Shai : charts fine
09:19 Uttam : yes
09:19 Naren : fine
09:20 Prashant : moving in jerks
09:20 Arjun : reloaded and working fine. thanks
09:22 Shai : off to test 11720 again below 11797
09:22 Shai : look for a better RR
09:22 Chandrashekhar : +1 Shai
09:22 Uttam : yes NF weak below 11772 – bearish hypo triggered
09:22 Uttam : 11745 first tgt done
09:23 Shai : +1
09:23 Uttam : BNF also weak below 24099
09:23 Uttam : htis 24024 hvn and 23940
09:23 Uttam : looks headed to 23875 next
09:23 Uttam : done
09:23 Uttam : 11750pe from 87-99.6
09:24 abdulla mahamood : any short here
09:25 Chandrashekhar : +1 Uttam, 11700 PE 65-80
09:28 abdulla mahamood : chart not working…its stuck
09:28 Uttam : zoom & joinme working
09:28 Chandrashekhar : charts working …momentum has halted for now
09:28 Uttam : room charts seem stuck
09:29 Uttam : Room charts back
09:29 Shai : 11720 here – (09:22) Shai : off to test 11720 again below 11797
09:29 Uttam : +1
09:29 Shai : expecting a rebound here
09:30 Shai : quality of the rebound determines the day
09:31 Naren : pink band in NFT for a vwap test?
09:32 Uttam : 0s at 11755 will be nice for more upside
09:33 Ankush Jain : Shai what culd be SL for NF shorts?
09:33 Uttam : we got an RB with 0s at lows
09:33 Shai : 11796 fpr old
09:34 Shai : new shorts below 11715 only
09:34 Uttam : +1
09:34 Ankush Jain : ok
09:34 Uttam : BNF also holding above PDL
09:34 Uttam : 24060 ref in it
09:34 Ankush Jain : Kotak in > 5% today
09:34 Ankush Jain : almost 6%
09:36 Shai : how much was it yesterday?
09:36 K2dt : flying post results
09:36 Shai : starnge 1 day late reaction
09:36 K2dt : yes chief
09:37 Anuj null : mci
09:37 Anuj null : msci
09:38 K2dt : boom
09:39 Shai : 11796 doable
09:39 Shai : how much up?- (09:29) Shai : expecting a rebound here
09:40 K2dt : _/\_ chief
09:40 abdulla mahamood : any buy abv 11796 shai?
09:41 Shai : let the orderflow guide
09:41 Ankush Jain : bk to bk IBs
09:41 Shai : Anyone in for 11796?
09:41 Uttam : 24k CE from 369-411 & 11750ce from 93-103 done
09:41 Uttam : BNF boom boom
09:43 Shai : 11786 book
09:43 K2dt : almost perfect entry in 700ce at 118 🙂 super thnx chief
09:43 Shai : 11785- (09:39) Shai : 11796 doable
09:43 Shai : trust the Orderflow
09:43 Sanjib : Kotak has gone berserk
09:44 Uttam : BNF in beast mode
09:44 Uttam : going for 24480 looks like
09:44 Prashant : Please scroll the chart a bit…down
09:45 Shai : 3IB’s whacked the late shorts
09:45 K2dt : 118-149 11700ce super chief
09:46 K2dt : the comeback was fast and furious :))
09:46 Uttam : started from this – (09:33) Uttam : we got an RB with 0s at lows
09:46 Shai : but we knew in advance at 09.29 that it would rebound 🙂 – (09:29) Shai : expecting a rebound here
09:46 Uttam : above 11810 NF can rise more
09:46 Uttam : +100 Shai
09:46 Uttam : BNF bullish hypo triggered above 24126
09:46 Uttam : and done 24330 next tgt 24395
09:46 Shai : 67 to 87 in 11800 ce
09:47 Uttam : +1 Shai congo
09:48 Uttam : (09:34) Uttam : BNF also holding above PDL(09:34) Uttam : 24060 ref in it
09:49 K2dt : cheers chief
09:50 Shubham Q : what did you watch on OF chief for expecting a rebound?
09:50 Chandrashekhar : +100 Shai
09:50 Uttam : no fresh selling and a RB at lows – (09:50) Shubham Q : what did you watch on OF chief for expecting a rebound?
09:51 Uttam : 11715 is an imp level in NF
09:51 Uttam : look at COT
09:51 Milind : +100
09:52 Uttam : A period singles in both as of now
09:52 Uttam : volumes also are good today
09:53 Uttam : can go for those extension handles of yesterday
09:53 Uttam : filling up the DD profile
09:53 Shai : max 20 points of the upmove left to 11820
09:53 Shai : longs should book
09:56 Shai : don;t get carried away guys in one side bias these next 2 weeks
09:56 Shai : should be whack whack plays
09:56 Shai : follow levels
09:56 Shai : maintain discipline
09:57 Milind : +1 Chief
09:57 Rahul : yep, we saw the trailer here in morning
10:00 K2dt : any chances of a c side today UG?
10:04 Uttam : +1000 Shai _/\_ – (09:56) Shai : don;t get carried away guys in one side bias these next 2 weeks(09:56) Shai : should be whack whack plays
10:05 Uttam : if no C it is good for a good RE upside rest of day – (10:00) K2dt : any chances of a c side today UG?
10:06 K2dt : tx UG..good vols too today
10:06 Tejaswini : BNF stuck in two distributions
10:07 Tejaswini : Some time spent here should be positive @UG?
10:10 Uttam : 24360 was ext handle in BNF yesterday
10:10 Uttam : today high so far right there
10:10 Ankush Jain : NF retracing from yesterday’s ext handle
10:11 Tejaswini : +1 A & UG. mechanical highs in both NF and BNF?
10:11 Uttam : NF also IBH aligned right at yVWAP
10:12 Uttam : yvwap nikalo to get t handle of 11872
10:16 Shai : 11760 small supp here
10:16 Shai : below that 11740/ 11720
10:17 Shai : from 11800 t0 11766- (09:53) Shai : max 20 points of the upmove left to 11820(09:53) Shai : longs should book
10:17 Rajiv Ohri : +100
10:17 Shai : 11760 neutral ground here
10:17 Shai : we go flat now
10:17 Rajiv Ohri : Chief is on a roll today
10:18 K2dt : chief is on a roll 9.9/10 days Rajiv :))
10:18 Shai : _/\_
10:18 Prateeek : +100 K2dt
10:18 Shai : more prep/ more charts guys. Nothing else required
10:19 K2dt : +100 chief
10:19 Shai : these next 2 weeks are not the time to sleep walk into the session
10:19 Shai : come ready
10:19 K2dt : whipsaws
10:20 Uttam : BNF holding yvwap of 24195
10:21 Uttam : +1000 – (10:18) Shai : more prep/ more charts guys. Nothing else required
10:21 Shai : Buy 11800 ce at 77 sl of 71 tgt 90/ 104
10:23 Ankush Jain : No IS today, only IBs
10:27 Shai : 83 book half and sl at cost on rest- (10:21) Shai : Buy 11800 ce at 77 sl of 71 tgt 90/ 104
10:28 Uttam : BNF getting ready for boom boom 2?
10:28 Shai : that RB at vwap is the signal you have to bank on
10:28 Uttam : +1 Shai stuck red at vwap
10:30 Uttam : 16k green at top of thia bar in BNF
10:32 Ankush Jain : that ext handle at 805 proving to be a challenge for NF so far
10:34 Uttam : yvwap there
10:34 Uttam : sellers defending it for now
10:41 Shai : book full at 83- (10:21) Shai : Buy 11800 ce at 77 sl of 71 tgt 90/ 104
10:41 Shai : went to 88 but could not cross 90
10:41 Shai : dpoc moved up
10:41 Shai : over to 11800 ce pe writers now
10:42 K2dt : chief dpoc line not showing in room nd joinme
10:42 Sumeet : kotak single handedly leading bnf charge. 10% up
10:43 Shai : kotak at circuit
10:43 Ankush Jain : wow
10:44 Shai : will come up- (10:42) K2dt : chief dpoc line not showing in room nd joinme
10:44 Shai : diff is marginal
10:46 Ankush Jain : Nf again testing yvwap
10:47 Uttam : C done so D RE coming
10:47 Uttam : 24395 tagged in BNF
10:47 Rajiv Ohri : O=H taken out too in NF
10:47 Uttam : 24480 above it ref
10:48 Uttam : (10:05) Uttam : if no C it is good for a good RE upside rest of day – (10:00) K2dt : any chances of a c side today UG?
10:49 K2dt : +100 UG..nd it came after C :))
10:49 Uttam : was waiting for C to get over 😉
10:49 K2dt : 🙂
10:50 Uttam : but 0s at top here in BNF
10:51 K2dt : can anyone tell me what exactly is the optimism in kotak ? :p
10:52 Bhuvan : msci inflow
10:53 Prashant : k2, maybe they wil not buy indusind..
10:54 Ankush Jain : Kotak still marching ahead after circuit
10:58 Shai : 1600- 1640 reaction zone for Kotak
11:02 Jitender : msci has allowed increase weightage for FPI holding in it thru aotomatic route..hence more buyn anticipated..hence the rise(10:51) K2dt : can anyone tell me what exactly is the optimism in kotak ? :p
11:02 Shai : NF aggressive short at 11807 sl of 11830 tgt 11777/ 11740
11:02 Jitender : weightage incr is applicable from 1 st dec
11:03 Shai : +1 Jit
11:03 Shai : how much increase was allowed?
11:03 Jitender : not sure..but i think around 30%
11:03 K2dt : tx for that Jit
11:03 Shai : Thanks
11:04 Jitender : _/\_
11:04 Ankush Jain : IS finally in NF
11:08 Uttam : low volume one but
11:08 Uttam : that RS is good though
11:08 Uttam : 11790 needs to be taken out
11:11 Shai : Kotak is giving 345 to BN’s 286 today
11:11 Shai : so you know what the rest are doing right?
11:15 Himanshu : Gm all
11:26 Shai : book the short at 11788 here – (11:02) Shai : NF aggressive short at 11807 sl of 11830 tgt 11777/ 11740
11:27 abdulla mahamood : full?
11:29 Shai : If it breaks vwap we review the ,move
11:35 Himanshu : Open Interest in NF is decreasing and in BNF is incrasing in F
11:36 K2dt : Hi H
11:36 K2dt : wasup
11:36 Himanshu : Went to Kotak Bank in morning
11:36 K2dt : lol
11:36 Himanshu : so joined late,..
11:36 K2dt : hence it is up
11:36 Himanshu : Nosersiously – thast not the reasin for its up
11:36 K2dt : coz u deposited big sums
11:36 K2dt : 🙂
11:36 Himanshu : for my sons account -neded to send him his fees
11:37 K2dt : just kidding H
11:37 Himanshu : Yes actualy i went fior Kidding – for my Kid
11:37 Himanshu : haha
11:37 K2dt : hahaha
11:37 Chandrashekhar : @Shai, that was a good call for short exit…any other reason why you called for an exit there?
11:38 Uttam : ‘p’ shap profile & stuck reds in that IS bar at lows
11:38 Himanshu : They told me whay am not applyig for student loan ,,
11:38 Uttam : last vwap tag also got stuck reds
11:38 Himanshu : I checked price ,,, and said HMM
11:38 Uttam : POC of IS needs to be in middle or top part
11:38 Sanjib : Interestingly, 24400 and 24500 PEs are still being written with OI up and price down
11:39 Uttam : can BNF give a fresh RE hihger now?
11:39 Himanshu : ye lo
11:39 Shai : FM to meet PMO for stimulus at 06.30 pm
11:39 Himanshu : you dont put ?
11:39 Himanshu : mark UG
11:39 Sanjib : 24500 CE has shed OI with price moving up; SC in 24500 CE?
11:40 Himanshu : some reduction in GST for Diwali sweets and Chinese Cracker Bna
11:41 Shai : selling near vwap did not match prev buying seen there – (11:37) Chandrashekhar : @Shai, that was a good call for short exit…any other reason why you called for an exit there?
11:42 Uttam : 249-258 scalping done in 24.5k CE
11:42 Shai : shorts careful
11:42 Chandrashekhar : Thanks Shai, good pointer for learning today post market
11:42 Shai : we may hit 11865
11:42 Uttam : boom boom coming
11:42 Sanjib : Bought some 24200 CE at 410
11:43 Ankush Jain : ye PM sahib saare kaam 6 baje ke baad karte
11:44 Shai : Buy NF 11835 sl of 11815 tgt 11867
11:44 Shai : expect 119 in 11800 ce
11:46 Himanshu : Atmanirbhar pckage of 20 Lk cr to be reviewd
11:47 Himanshu : its Performance review –
11:48 Himanshu : Guj cadre used to alwyas called post 5 PM for review while he was CM ..
11:48 Himanshu : day time is for work – review 5 Ke bbad,,
11:48 Shai : 🙂
11:48 Uttam : 8 PM 😉
11:48 Shai : nice to know that
11:48 Jitender : pls trail (11:42) Sanjib : Bought some 24200 CE at 410
11:49 K2dt : 8pm boomb fodne k liye UG :p
11:49 Himanshu : Yogi Adityanath also calls for review meet with IAS – IPS cadre level post 7 PM
11:49 Sanjib : Thanks Jit
11:49 Himanshu : or morning 7 am to 11 am
11:49 Shai : exit this at 11832 near cost- (11:44) Shai : Buy NF 11835 sl of 11815 tgt 11867
11:49 Shai : risk risiing again
11:50 Himanshu : no bomb – they both belives – offic time is for work – meetings shall not reduce productivityy of routine,,,
11:50 K2dt : wat i meant was 8pm for demonetisation type of announcements :p
11:51 Himanshu : no thgis is review meet – his perofmace review is wehre most officals Pee in their pants –
11:52 Himanshu : Jagdish Thakkar His PRO – who passed away last year – at 65 was our relative = served him 12 years in Gu and 5 years in Delhi
11:53 Himanshu : among his close 5 menber team – who checks visits prior to allplaces he supposed to viist overseas and lcoal
11:53 Uttam : 24480 here in BNF
11:54 Uttam : (10:20) Uttam : BNF holding yvwap of 24195(10:28) Uttam : BNF getting ready for boom boom 2?(10:47) Uttam : 24480 above it ref
11:54 Gopi : my brokar flash: FM meet about next stimulas
11:55 Himanshu : Yes, they will discuss,, whats result – so far and whats needed more
11:55 Gopi : thanks himanshu
11:56 Himanshu : but one thing is very sure of his approach is – there are no free lunches
11:57 Uttam : 24590 is 1.5 IB in BNF
11:58 Sanjib : 24200 CE 50% booked at 470 (bought at 410); rest trail to cost
11:58 Himanshu : Am putting small note on random slack
11:58 Uttam : congo S
11:58 Sanjib : Thank you
11:58 Sanjib : UG
11:59 Uttam : 24395 ref on diwnside now
11:59 KK : it might be, who filed return early, will get faster refund..infusion..:)
12:03 Uttam : NF staying above 11821 can go for that 11865 & 11890
12:05 Rajiv Ohri : Shai BNF numbers are not visible in the room
12:05 Bhuvan : shai sold 11700 pe and 12000ce for the current expiry hope its safe?
12:05 Uttam : 24406 low in the dip so far – (11:59) Uttam : 24395 ref on diwnside now
12:06 Uttam : lets get 24535-590 in BNF?
12:07 Sanjib : 24690 UG
12:07 Sanjib : 🙂
12:07 Uttam : 24520
12:08 Uttam : lets see what it does at 24535-590 if gets there – (12:07) Sanjib : 24690 UG
12:08 Uttam : 30k red at top
12:09 Uttam : 27300
12:22 Sanjib : rest out at 485. Day’s job done
12:22 K2dt : congo S
12:22 Sanjib : Thnx Kush
12:32 Uttam : dip below 11821 being defended yet again – (12:03) Uttam : NF staying above 11821 can go for that 11865 & 11890
12:41 K2dt : koi devta manoos looking out for us :))
12:42 Jitender : +1 (12:22) Sanjib : rest out at 485. Day’s job done
12:59 Ankush Jain : volume expansion in last bar
12:59 Uttam : +1
12:59 Uttam : VWAP cometh?
13:00 Ankush Jain : red COT kicking in
13:00 Uttam : -30k red at lows in BNF
13:01 Ankush Jain : NF also throwing up some reds
13:01 Ankush Jain : NF has broken the range
13:01 Jitender : bach=k at 420..live example of why should trail & perfectt exceution by Sanjib (11:48) Jitender : pls trail (11:42) Sanjib : Bought some 24200 CE at 410
13:02 Jitender : *back
13:02 Uttam : (12:59) Uttam : VWAP cometh?
13:02 Uttam : BNF at IBH
13:03 Uttam : 24360
13:03 Uttam : yesterdays extension handle becoming support for now? though getting reds here so would be intewresting to see if it can hold
13:06 Uttam : laggards? – (13:00) Uttam : -30k red at lows in BNF
13:06 Uttam : 8 more mins for the hammer time to end
13:06 Uttam : can we get a fresh RE?
13:08 Uttam : BNF as always leading the pack
13:08 Uttam : 24535
13:08 Uttam : 0s at 24500
13:08 Uttam : BNF in beast mode bola tha in morning
13:08 Uttam : hammer time
13:09 Uttam : a) BNF needs to sustain above 24126 for a rise to 24195-280 / 24330-395 / 24454-535 / 24632 & 24740-800
13:09 Rajiv Ohri : is this 1.47 a roll
13:10 Tejaswini : 0’s on top in NF
13:11 Shai : is a roll
13:11 Shai : 1.45 L
13:11 Uttam : 11859 NF
13:11 Tejaswini : do we go with 0’s?
13:12 Ankush Jain : 11865 coming?
13:12 Uttam : almost done
13:12 Uttam : 11859
13:12 Uttam : 0s at top
13:13 Ankush Jain : auction over?
13:13 Uttam : till those 0s stay
13:13 Uttam : if taken out then can get 11890
13:13 Uttam : the series POC
13:14 Uttam : 2 IB also at 11899
13:14 Uttam : BNF….
13:14 Uttam : got some more steam left?
13:14 Uttam : @Sanjib you not leaving it till it gives your 24690?
13:15 Uttam : can we get that vpoc tag finally today in it 24800?
13:15 Uttam : 24535 immediate support
13:15 Uttam : change of polarity – (13:02) Uttam : BNF at IBH(13:03) Uttam : 24360(13:03) Uttam : yesterdays extension handle becoming support for now? though getting reds here so would be intewresting to see if it can hold
13:20 Shai : Buy 11800 pe at 64 sl of 57 tgt 87
13:24 Sanjib : Sorry UG, was away from terminal. Didn’t notice your message
13:24 Sanjib : Yes I am watching 24690 but no positions.
13:24 Uttam : not an issue S that is why BNF stopped just sahort of that 24690 😉
13:24 Sanjib : 🙂
13:27 Uttam : BNF new highs
13:28 Naren : Uttam two more hours left in the day:)
13:30 Shai : if 11820 breaks it ois a jackpot
13:30 Uttam : 🙂
13:32 Shai : nring sl to 61 now, only 4 points of risk- (13:20) Shai : Buy 11800 pe at 64 sl of 57 tgt 87
13:32 Shai : Abv 70 we get 84 easy
13:39 Ankush Jain : all bars except one since 1310 bar has a 0 at top
13:40 Shai : O’s are zeros
13:40 Shai : They have no competition in trade finding
13:40 Ankush Jain : +1
13:40 Shubham Q : that was so close cheif
13:40 Shai : 71
13:40 Ankush Jain : shunya competition
13:41 Shubham Q : chief*
13:41 Shai : yes was close
13:41 Shai : but there is nothing random about what we do here 🙂
13:42 Shai : sl at cost now- (13:20) Shai : Buy 11800 pe at 64 sl of 57 tgt 87
13:42 Shai : we don’t give more than 30 mins for 0’s
13:42 Shai : risk free trade now as setup is still valid
13:42 Anuj null : sir shudnt we keep SL below round numbers like 59.4 maybe
13:43 Shai : yes sl original was the best
13:43 Shai : but I don’t want to risk too much as it is counter trend
13:44 Shai : book 50% at 71- 72- 13:20) Shai : Buy 11800 pe at 64 sl of 57 tgt 87