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NF (Feb)
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09:01 Uttam : Good Morning All 🙂
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09:02 Shai : We are looking at another gap down today
09:02 Shai : being a thursday the gap assumes more significance than other days
09:03 Shai : It’s not in a the gap, it’s what happens after the gap
09:03 Shai : Our ref line for this open is 13982 and another one at 13873
09:03 Shai : it will stay bearsih if 13873 is not taken out at open prints
09:04 Shai : BNF closes at support yesterday 30320 which is first ref for day
09:04 Shai : 30037 is the other ref
09:04 Shai : higher probes to 30700 and 30900 would continue to meet sellers
09:05 Uttam : have put up spot hypos for today on slack – https://vtrender.slack.com/archives/C015QPRSNA1/p1611802594000300
09:07 Madanagopal : Hello All
09:08 Ashwath : Hi All, GM
09:11 Himanshu : Hi all GM
09:12 Rusi : Gm all
09:13 Abhishek : Shai, if you can tell the imp of 13873. it would be great
09:16 Uttam : 13811 spot was an FA and has been revisted
09:16 Uttam : 13800pe wrtiers in trouble
09:17 Shai : 13873 – (09:03) Shai : Our ref line for this open is 13982 and another one at 13873
09:17 Uttam : high to the dot Shai 🙂
09:18 Shai : Orderflow projected levels- (09:13) Abhishek : Shai, if you can tell the imp of 13873. it would be great
09:18 Shai : 13820 minor supp for open
09:19 Abhishek : +1
09:19 Anand : charts stuck
09:21 Chandrashekhar : next ref for NF below Shai?
09:22 Shai : charts are fine
09:22 Chandrashekhar : 760/700 coming?
09:22 Uttam : 13750 spot is a vpoc
09:22 Shai : NF headed to 13700
09:22 Uttam : +1
09:26 Chandrashekhar : Speedo 270+ to 110 now
09:30 Shai : NF going back for 13873/ 13907
09:30 Ankush Jain : RIL holding up nicely
09:31 Shai : Like yesterdfay we look to short strength
09:31 Shai : that 13800 call shoulkd come near 108 once cmp 83
09:32 Shai : not a trade- we are looking to respond there
09:35 Shai : 108
09:35 K2dt : +100 chief
09:37 K2dt : motabhai!!!
09:37 Shai : morning shorts fried once
09:37 Chandrashekhar : 1K red at top of this bar for NF
09:37 K2dt : esp the ones which wud have taken a shrt on the basis of US close
09:38 Shai : Buy 13900 pe at 65 sl of 45 tgt 95
09:38 K2dt : and also a gap down
09:39 Shai : 13896- (09:30) Shai : NF going back for 13873/ 13907
09:40 Ravi : Shai _/\_
09:41 K2dt : chances of an OAOR chief..but a big range?
09:41 Shai : 76 book half- (09:38) Shai : Buy 13900 pe at 65 sl of 45 tgt 95
09:41 Shai : sl at 65 on rest
09:42 Shai : respect vwap here for a min
09:42 Shai : Add back if vwap cracks for 820
09:43 Viswas : 1035 is total lots or 1035k ?
09:43 Sumeet : 1035*75
09:43 Sumeet : lots
09:43 Shai : exit- we come back again
09:45 Shai : pink was a fantastic short there – (09:38) Shai : Buy 13900 pe at 65 sl of 45 tgt 95
09:45 Shai : 1035 lots
09:46 Chandrashekhar : 13800 PE seeing fresh writing since morning
09:46 Uttam : +1
09:47 Chandrashekhar : todays Vwap could be key for the day?
09:47 Shai : +1- (09:46) Chandrashekhar : 13800 PE seeing fresh writing since morning
09:47 Shai : Please share more such obs everyone- work as a team
09:48 Shai : It’s dukaan day 🙂
09:48 K2dt : we’ll open the shutter of the dukaan post lunch chief :))
09:49 Shai : 13800 pe ref area is 53
09:50 Ankush Jain : 13900 pe is also showing interest
09:50 Chandrashekhar : +1 Shai..(09:49) Shai : 13800 pe ref area is 53
09:51 Shai : There was an FA at 13626 in your notes @Uttam?
09:51 Chandrashekhar : looking for 68>80 if we go below
09:51 Shai : 24th ?
09:51 Uttam : yes Shai 13627
09:51 Shai : Thanks
09:51 Uttam : 🙂
09:52 Uttam : 13811 & 13865 were FAs which got revisited today
09:52 Ankush Jain : wow
09:52 Uttam : weekly vpoc in spot at 13728
09:53 Chandrashekhar : red band here in NF
09:55 Shai : Buy 13900 pe abv 86 again sl of 61 tgt 110. Buy abv
09:57 Surya ganti : in
09:57 Shai : 822/ 806 obvj
09:57 Rajiv Ohri : in?
09:58 Shai : yes
10:01 Raghav : sl is 61 ?
10:02 Shai : (09:55) Shai : Buy 13900 pe abv 86 again sl of 61 tgt 110. Buy abv
10:02 Shai : sl of 61. we exit if that goes
10:02 Shai : settlemnt day
10:03 Chandrashekhar : that 13800 PE writing is going heavy….Vix also cooling down….
10:04 Uttam : yes 50L
10:06 Chandrashekhar : possibilities of a short squeeze Uttam??
10:07 Chandrashekhar : staying above Vwap is not good for shorts
10:07 K2dt : C wants a GME here 🙂
10:07 Abhishek : hahah
10:08 Shai : exit if 61 breaks guys in that PE
10:09 Shai : we all got a bad fill there
10:12 Jitender : fr last 30mins..wat u guys hv noticed in bnf ?
10:12 Prashant : coiling
10:12 Sumeet : poc / vwap hardly moved
10:13 Jitender : k..wat else
10:13 Favas : selling abosortion
10:13 K2dt : staying abv vwap
10:13 Jitender : ys..algo at 900
10:13 Jitender : watch him
10:14 K2dt : then lets take 30kce writers for a spin
10:15 Shai : PE stopped
10:15 K2dt : o teri
10:15 Jitender : gave another DT 🙂 (10:13) Jitender : ys..algo at 900
10:17 Chandrashekhar : C side RE as well in BNF
10:18 Shai : 86.65 it reversed from- (09:55) Shai : Buy 13900 pe abv 86 again sl of 61 tgt 110. Buy abv
10:18 Shai : we will do it again if 86 is crossed later in day
10:18 Jitender : we will get it chief
10:18 Sri 81 : the buy never trigerred rite i dont think it went above 86
10:18 Swapnil : It did Sri 8.
10:19 Shai : 86.65
10:19 Shai : congarts to those who didn’t get triggered 🙂
10:19 Ankush Jain : 🙂
10:19 Swapnil : 🙂
10:19 Sanjiv : 🙂
10:19 Anand : 🙂
10:20 Sadees : 86.725 for me in Zerodha 🙂
10:20 K2dt : 🙂
10:20 Rahul : my sl was 88 in 13900 PE..
10:20 Rahul : 🙂
10:20 Shai : Good to see you all smile. There is plenty of time left in the day
10:20 Jitender : +100
10:20 Shai : vwap/ dpoc together
10:21 Shai : writers rule
10:21 Ankush Jain : bugger now coming down
10:21 Devkant Swargiary : agreed Shai
10:21 Anand : Short CE PE today Shai ?
10:21 Viswas : yes chief
10:21 Anand : looks like it’ll play around VWAP
10:23 Anand : Nifty – Call OI – 1,11,49,275 ; Put OI – 1,10,41,500
10:23 Anand : Options Net OI
10:23 Jitender : dont read into OI too much on expiry day
10:23 Jitender : tats were dukaan trades are seeded
10:23 Anand : ok
10:24 Jitender : n 2nd be open on expiry days…..anythn can happen
10:24 Raghav : -28 in Put. 🙁
10:24 Anand : ok
10:26 Sadees : 86 is coming in 13900 pe?
10:27 Ravi : into A singles
10:27 Amit : not there till it actually comes..
10:28 Chandrashekhar : red band would be good in nf too
10:28 Amit : there
10:29 Viswas : 13900pe in
10:29 Tejaswini : @Shai – Do we get in?
10:30 Shai : no
10:32 Chandrashekhar : waiting for sell signal Shai?
10:32 Surya ganti : just fell to eat our stops 🙁
10:33 Raghav : yes
10:33 Chandrashekhar : that C side in BNF gave Vwap + VAL
10:33 Jitender : +1
10:34 Jitender : PB done by 900 buyer
10:34 Rahul : bnf mein bakra fasa ?
10:35 Jitender : kafi kat gaye hain..subah se..dono taraf 🙂
10:35 Favas : jit some light on 900 algo
10:35 Rusi : this C side thing is master piece discovery
10:36 Amit : especially with FA like 14616 in NF Jan
10:36 Jitender : view over Favas…he triggered Sls n booked
10:36 Chandrashekhar : good so set to move lower now?
10:36 Jitender : now tat lvl will be used latently….below it…sum liquidation is probab
10:36 Favas : how to identyfy?
10:37 Jitender : see price action from 935…
10:37 Jitender : 9.35
10:37 Favas : only selling absortion?
10:38 Ankush Jain : that 1035 reds @ 13895 held so far
10:38 Chandrashekhar : +1
10:38 Jitender : ys Favas….wile spx was falling
10:39 Jitender : keep things simple..best way to trade..atleast fr me
10:39 Favas : +1
10:39 Chandrashekhar : 5 more minutes for C
10:42 Ravi : again D to do a C today?
10:56 Amit : IB at vwap
10:58 Ankush Jain : NF to balane today?
10:58 Ankush Jain : Maybe dukaan trades in afternoon
11:01 Porus : Today NF took support exactly at 28 Dec low
11:01 Porus : Also low of weekly ending 1 Jan
11:01 Rusi : are these buying rolling over shorts shai ?
11:07 Ankush Jain : the pace has dropped quite a bit
11:13 Shai : one hour later (10:20) Shai : vwap/ dpoc together(10:21) Shai : writers rule
11:14 Shai : Announcement – we have a webinar at 08.30 pm on ” Bias” and Rules of the same. Do login. Same location as here .
11:14 Tejpreet : +1
11:14 Chandrashekhar : +1
11:14 Prashant : sure..thanks
11:15 K2dt : +1 chief
11:15 Ankush Jain : +1
11:15 Ankush Jain : looking forward
11:16 Tejpreet : Since vwap dpoc algned , Shai a Q for you ….as you have been associated/know hedge funds …….can they actually go bust via single stock GME ….i meant billions gone in a flash or is it SM drama ?
11:17 Anand : happen with German billionaire.. with volkswagen… short squeeze.. he committed suicide
11:18 Tejpreet : Individuals I understand but funds with risk maangment/fancy softwares etc .
11:19 Anand : true… Shai should know if they do really hedge futures shorts with OTM options buying 😀 Do they really hedge ? 😀
11:19 Prashant : Leverage/position sizing, kills, even if you are a fund. Happened with LTCM, Amaranth etc. Just that the opposing party is a group of retail. And no drama, the only drama being the big players tweaking the rules when bleeding.
11:19 Anand : Do hedge funds hedge their hedges
11:21 Shai : they have to exit a trdae gone wrong no? just like us except size is in billions – (11:16) Tejpreet : Since vwap dpoc algned , Shai a Q for you ….as you have been associated/know hedge funds …….can they actually go bust via single stock GME ….i meant billions gone in a flash or is it SM drama ?
11:21 Shai : if they position size it to less that 3% of the account size then it is fair \
11:21 Shai : else big trouble
11:22 Tejpreet : But then position sizing is wrong if 1 trade exit makes them go bust 🙂
11:22 Ankush Jain : quite a drama going in US markets
11:22 Ankush Jain : GME, AMC, KOSS
11:22 Shai : position sizing + hedge value also
11:22 Shai : if market moves hedge will not have same par value
11:22 Shai : they have to react quick
11:22 Tejpreet : +1
11:23 Shai : that’s the probelem with these hedge funds
11:23 Ankush Jain : regulators worried,
11:23 Ankush Jain : but they don’t get worried when retail is screwed up
11:23 Prashant : gamma squeeze
11:23 Shai : they are sipping beer in some island elsewhere and think markets will make money always :;)
11:24 Tejpreet : lol
11:25 Anand : from what I read… here the short squeeze also was dangerous cos the short position was multiples of free float & the available free float.was very low.. & they were forced to buy in cash when it started going up.. & didnt have enough to buy..
11:27 Ankush Jain : yes
11:27 Ankush Jain : something ike this can’t happen here I suppose
11:27 Ankush Jain : Shorting is not allowed & we have circuit filters
11:28 Sanjiv : short position was 136% of the issued stock
11:29 Sanjiv : regulators there need to introspect.
11:31 Naresh : well, i use to think sipping beer…markets will make money always. until i reached here 🙂
11:32 Prashant : 🙂
11:34 Chandrashekhar : 820 levelsdefended well since morning…
11:34 Chandrashekhar : NF
11:42 Ankush Jain : yes C
11:43 Ankush Jain : 13900 ce & 13800 pe being written aggressively
11:45 Tejpreet : 850 combo 92 , lot of juice for writers before afternoon move hits in.
11:46 Jitender : good topic..very relevant..guys do plugin to listen to Shai 11:14 Shai : (11:14) Shai : Announcement – we have a webinar at 08.30 pm on ” Bias” and Rules of the same. Do login. Same location as here .
11:51 Chandrashekhar : +1..(11:43) Ankush Jain: 13900 ce & 13800 pe being written aggressively
11:52 Chandrashekhar : so who would blink here is the key…
11:53 Chandrashekhar : ah…red band in NF after a while
11:54 Uttam : that 13800pe getting above vwap
11:54 Uttam : needs to get above 41-42
11:54 Uttam : to test that 53 once
11:54 Uttam : G period in OAOR>
11:54 Uttam : ?
11:54 Chandrashekhar : +1
11:55 Chandrashekhar : OI was 58+ now around 55…
11:56 Uttam : take it below 50L Chandra and can give some squeeze
12:03 Sanjib : Axis Bank now 660+ from a low of 616 today
12:03 Chandrashekhar : guess 790 has to be broken for that
12:04 Chandrashekhar : and red band goes here…with no action yet
12:05 Uttam : waiting for G I guess
12:05 Uttam : 13786 coming up in NF?
12:06 Chandrashekhar : waiting for it 🙂
12:07 Chandrashekhar : awesome Uttam
12:07 Uttam : je baat
12:07 Amit : ya
12:07 Chandrashekhar : 760 doable now?
12:07 Uttam : (11:54) Uttam : needs to get above 41-42(11:54) Uttam : to test that 53 once
12:09 Uttam : 41-51 in that 13800pe
12:09 Uttam : rest out at cost
12:09 Amit : greens
12:09 Uttam : 892 greeen at new lows
12:10 Chandrashekhar : that had 0’s ..which got filled up
12:10 Chandrashekhar : could be some limit orders?
12:11 Shai : shoulkd go back to 13840
12:12 Uttam : G about to start
12:14 Uttam : Spot did not make new lows
12:15 Chandrashekhar : +1 Shai, 835 so far
12:16 Shai : that 892 was a quick book of short
12:16 Uttam : +1
12:16 Shai : you don’t short whjen you see that
12:16 Shai : hope no one did
12:16 Uttam : (12:09) Uttam : 892 greeen at new lows
12:16 Chandrashekhar : closed my shorts after that alert
12:16 Shai : +1
12:16 Ashwath : thanks for timely alert Shai
12:17 Ashwath : just closed 13900 pe there
12:17 Chandrashekhar : so we look for fresh reds/sell signal for next leg down?
12:17 Ashwath : anything to watch for 13900 PE shai?
12:18 Shai : 60 lower
12:20 Sanjib : UG – possible FA of NF at lows?
12:20 Uttam : yes S
12:21 Uttam : first lets get vwap
12:21 Sanjib : +100
12:27 Shai : Nf is a short below 13795 sl of 13824 tgt 13755
12:31 Abhishek : Shai that 13900 PE
12:31 Abhishek : good with 80 Vwap SL
12:31 Abhishek : ?
12:32 Chandrashekhar : so no FA in NF right Uttam?
12:32 Shai : vwap is good but 60 shoukd hold till close
12:33 Abhishek : then reducing quantity
12:34 Uttam : (12:05) Uttam : waiting for G I guess(12:05) Uttam : 13786 coming up in NF?
12:34 Uttam : 13786 to the dot
12:35 Shai : 53
12:35 Shai : extension trade on
12:36 Shai : 55 cross will create panic
12:36 Chandrashekhar : +1
12:37 Shai : sl at 13799 now- (12:27) Shai : Nf is a short below 13795 sl of 13824 tgt 13755
12:38 Uttam : OI below 50L in that PE now
12:38 Uttam : lets go giys
12:38 Chandrashekhar : awesome Uttam
12:39 Shai : 13771 book half- (12:27) Shai : Nf is a short below 13795 sl of 13824 tgt 13755
12:39 Sanjib : 13800 PE 46 to 58
12:39 Shai : don;t add to any PE
12:41 Chandrashekhar : 760 here…
12:41 Shai : Book full- (12:27) Shai : Nf is a short below 13795 sl of 13824 tgt 13755
12:41 Surya ganti : done.. booked
12:42 Tejpreet : +1 Shai
12:42 Sumeet : that was a fun slide down.
12:43 Shai : can buy that PE near 50 sl of 40
12:43 Uttam : that PE can hit a century Shai?
12:43 Shai : 76 plys
12:43 Uttam : 1.5 IB done
12:43 Uttam : 13756
12:44 Shai : Buy a 13500 pe of 4th Feb
12:44 Surya ganti : a? just 1 ? :p
12:44 Uttam : (11:56) Uttam : take it below 50L Chandra and can give some squeeze
12:44 Shai : we ate looking at 13500 in a day
12:45 Anand : Sl for feb 13500 Pe shai ?
12:45 Shai : do in parts
12:45 Shai : will update
12:46 Uttam : had mentioned spot 13750 was a vpoc – got tagged
12:46 Shai : below 13749 short for 13715 again sl of 13765
12:48 Shai : extension handle at 13800 now
12:49 Ankush Jain : so that pinks neqr 13900 prevailed
12:49 Uttam : (11:54) Uttam : G period in OAOR>
12:51 Shai : 13800 pe panicking
12:51 Shai : will not give us a dip looks like
12:51 Uttam : yes Shai 38L OI now in it
12:51 Uttam : want a century in that 😉
12:51 Shai : sl at 50 here can do 85 cmp 70
12:51 Shai : prefer a dip though
12:54 Shai : sl 13769- (12:46) Shai : below 13749 short for 13715 again sl of 13765
12:54 Rajiv Ohri : are we in on this?
12:54 Tejpreet : Shai for feb puts , SL in terms of NF ?
12:54 Sanjiv : yes
12:54 Shai : go with red band if not in
12:55 Rajiv Ohri : Thanks
12:55 Shai : 13825- (12:54) Tejpreet : Shai for feb puts , SL in terms of NF ?
12:55 Tejpreet : tks chief
12:56 Anand : 13825 of Feb or jan fut ?
12:56 Tejpreet : I am taking Jan as do not want to carry anything on budget day 🙂
12:56 Shai : Jan
12:56 Anand : ok
12:57 Shai : early stages of an extension trade guys
12:57 Shai : has opened up 230 point downside
12:57 Shai : worth the risk here
12:57 Uttam : +1
12:57 Uttam : 13131 is the swing low on daily now in NF
12:58 Uttam : spot sorry
12:58 Surya ganti : whoa!
12:58 Tejpreet : Shai just love these big numbers you give out 🙂
12:58 Uttam : Shai wants 13627 today in spot 😉
12:58 Tejpreet : aane do
12:58 Chandrashekhar : +1 Shai
12:59 Chandrashekhar : weekly comp POC @ 705..Vwap @ 510
12:59 Shai : +1
12:59 Chandrashekhar : close below 700 would be nice today
12:59 Uttam : monthly vwap & poc combo of 13527 is what shai wants finally 😉
12:59 Shai : And what’s 13490 spot?
13:00 Uttam : buying tail starts from 13493
13:00 Uttam : IPB started there
13:00 Uttam : IPM*
13:00 Shai : POC of dec
13:00 Shai : early days – we can build slowly
13:00 Tejpreet : oh ok , i tght by tomorrow close !
13:01 Uttam : so budget will just be a reason for longs to continue dumping 😉
13:01 Surya ganti : booked 50% 13800pe
13:01 Shai : don’t want it today Tej?
13:01 Shai : 🙂
13:01 Shai : Let’s go
13:01 Uttam : first monthly expiry of 2021 Tej, lets do 3 IB
13:01 Uttam : doom doom
13:02 Anand : exit at 13715 shai ?
13:02 Uttam : 90.6 so far – (12:51) Uttam : yes Shai 38L OI now in it(12:51) Uttam : want a century in that 😉
13:02 Surya ganti : Booked NF :0
13:02 Chandrashekhar : 2 IB and weekly comp POC aligning together on NF
13:02 Uttam : enjoying the squeeze Chandra 😉 – (11:56) Uttam : take it below 50L Chandra and can give some squeeze
13:02 Shai : sl 13752 now- (12:54) Shai : sl 13769- (12:46) Shai : below 13749 short for 13715 again sl of 13765
13:02 Tejpreet : +1
13:02 Chandrashekhar : ha ha …very much Uttam
13:03 Uttam : 100 coming
13:03 Shai : full panic in 13800 pe
13:03 Uttam : Chadra causing it Shai 😉
13:03 Uttam : Chandra*
13:03 Shai : but only 50% done still
13:03 Shai : stay short
13:03 Uttam : 94
13:04 Uttam : 97.25
13:04 Chandrashekhar : i am just flowing with it Uttam, not the cause
13:04 Tejpreet : Cleared all Jan pe just holding feb now
13:04 Uttam : _/\_ Tej the big bear
13:04 Shai : NF book – (12:54) Shai : sl 13769- (12:46) Shai : below 13749 short for 13715 again sl of 13765
13:04 Chandrashekhar : from low of 21…has come till 97
13:04 Uttam : 100 kidhar?
13:04 Chandrashekhar : dukaan as Shai said
13:04 Uttam : aa gya
13:04 Surya ganti : century!
13:04 Tejpreet : Uttam we always follow Shai and rest you know 🙂
13:04 Shai : Buy 13700 pe sl of 20
13:04 Chandrashekhar : 4X that was
13:05 Tejpreet : vix also crossed 25
13:05 Chandrashekhar : 2 Ib also done??
13:06 Anand : Any trail for Feb Nifty Puts shai ?
13:06 Shai : 32 now 13700 pe sl of 18
13:07 Raghav : entry for 13700 pe ?
13:08 Uttam : 1000 buyer in BNF at IBL break
13:09 Shai : 4 mins
13:09 Shai : let’s see it it carcks abv 42
13:11 Vishnu : grt week so far 10.5 dt nearing
13:11 Tejpreet : Super V
13:11 Vishnu : +1
13:12 Shai : Congarts Vishnu
13:12 Uttam : awesome V +100
13:12 Chandrashekhar : Super Vishnu…Super se Upar
13:12 Shai : RM shared yesterday that Jan trades are up 36% on the acocunt
13:12 Shai : Just red bands and green bands
13:12 Tejpreet : Cheers to many more such months Shai.
13:12 Shai : +1
13:13 Chandrashekhar : yep…this one is awesome Shai
13:13 Vishnu : tnx Shai
13:13 Vishnu : ug+
13:13 Vishnu : tnc x
13:13 Vishnu : chandra
13:13 Anand : Shai… SL for the Feb 13500 PE please
13:14 Prashant : exit pe?
13:14 Tejpreet : Jan has been fab month for VT , let’s preserve it by keeping risk under control on budget day
13:14 Shai : exit if 18 goes
13:14 Shai : we come back again
13:14 Surya ganti : exited
13:15 Uttam : BGNF getting VWAP thanks to this – (13:08) Uttam : 1000 buyer in BNF at IBL break
13:15 Uttam : H doing a C in it
13:15 Shai : 13825 F- (13:13) Anand : Shai… SL for the Feb 13500 PE please
13:15 Anand : ty
13:16 Shai : exit
13:16 Shai : we respond at 13800 again
13:16 Anand : ok
13:17 Uttam : 29920 was the VPOC in BNF and today’s VWAP right there
13:20 Shai : looks like 13700 pe will get away
13:23 Prashant : Any danger to cs writers? Above what level would it be?
13:23 Prashant : ce
13:23 Raghav : 13800 lot of ce addittion.
13:25 Raghav : can see reversal from 13800 ?
13:26 Shai : expiry music
13:26 Uttam : yes those 13800ce wrtiers could also face some musiuc
13:26 Shai : No trades open
13:26 K2dt : retail fasao yojna
13:26 Raghav : 🙂 @k2dt
13:26 Shai : we got 2 good NF shorts of 40 and 30 each and one loss in 13700 pe of 14 points
13:26 Shai : 1380-0 call revrseal here
13:27 Jitender : retail is smarter now K2..after GEm episode 🙂
13:27 Tejpreet : 🙂
13:27 Rajan Modi : Shai ; Do we exit feb PE?
13:27 K2dt : +100 Jit
13:27 Anand : yes Rajan.. he told to exit earlier
13:28 Rajan Modi : ok, thx
13:28 Shai : 13800 ce squeeze
13:28 Shai : they are whacking both sides
13:28 Shai : no trade open
13:28 MJ : 30k ce on that big 1000 buyer in bnf
13:28 Shai : sit back and watch
13:28 MJ : 57 to 140 half out.
13:28 Shai : 36 sl of those writers
13:28 Shai : should do 100
13:29 Uttam : 13800ce can do 100 Shai?
13:29 K2dt : congrats MJ
13:30 MJ : Gracias
13:31 K2dt : these 1000 guys in bnf esp on thurs aren’t meant to be messed with :))
13:31 K2dt : have seen this thrice already
13:31 MJ : Yes, I was short. booked at their arrival.
13:31 K2dt : +100
13:34 Prashant : Shai, is it possible to have room charts & chat in Zoom? Webinato app hangs at crucial times. Zoom bnf looks very clean.
13:34 Rajiv Ohri : IBL sustaining for now Shai so this 800 CE can be in for trouble
13:35 Shai : It’s a high risk play
13:35 Shai : 34 sl
13:36 Shai : would not recommend
13:36 Shai : (13:28) Shai : sit back and watch
13:36 Rajan Modi : _/\_
13:37 Shai : typical expiry plays
13:37 Shai : they squeezed 14800 pe first in thgat move to 715 and now the late CE writing
13:37 Himanshu : did you see 1000 in BNF as green
13:37 Himanshu : its shows as old business
13:38 Himanshu : K & MJ – R u refering 1090 on buy side at 29658 etc
13:39 MJ : Yes
13:39 Prashant : How is Old business is shown as??
13:40 Sanjib : chart stuck?
13:40 MJ : Bnf was just under 50 pts low from IBL and 1k buyer arrived. That A tail held almost entire afternoon.
13:40 Raghav : yes
13:42 Himanshu : k
13:44 Chandrashekhar : New high coming?
13:44 Tejpreet : Now NF wants to do a neutral profile
13:44 MJ : bnf 🙂
13:44 MJ : beauty!
13:45 Sanjib : NF planning to do a Doji?
13:45 Favas : bnf ref?
13:46 Rahul : Shai, is 932 is a booking in bnf
13:46 Rahul : ?
13:47 Himanshu : Yes – we can assume that for now
13:47 Himanshu : if in trade from low – exit in green
13:47 Himanshu : Like I did
13:47 Rahul : thanks Himanshu
13:47 Raghav : nf unable to sustain above vwap
13:48 Chandrashekhar : +1
13:48 Himanshu : for bias to change – atlest – we shall spike up above PDL and sustain
13:48 Chandrashekhar : expiry moves all the way
13:50 MJ : lot of oi in 30100/30k ce
13:52 Uttam : FA confirmed in BNF
13:52 Jitender : tc guys..had an execllent day…done fr today. 🙂
13:52 Uttam : this guy showeed intent – (13:08) Uttam : 1000 buyer in BNF at IBL break
13:52 Anand : ATR target UG bhai ?
13:52 Jitender : casino stands open
13:53 Chandrashekhar : +100 Jit
13:53 MJ : was waiting for that message from J 🙂
13:54 Jitender : 🙂
13:54 Jitender : n moorw is last day befoe budget…pls get yr seat belts 🙂
13:54 K2dt : congo Jit
13:54 Jitender : tx n cheers
13:54 K2dt : had a good day too 🙂
13:54 K2dt : cheers
13:55 Surya ganti : thanjs UG.. quick trade on BNK with your call on FA 🙂
13:55 Jitender : execellent K2 +1
13:55 Surya ganti : 999 to 921
13:57 Uttam : 932 red in BNF at 30135 looks like that buyer booking out
13:57 K2dt : tx Jit
13:58 Uttam : RS + IS forming
13:58 MJ : vwap dpoc close by in bnf.
13:58 Uttam : 13786 holding for now in NF
13:58 Uttam : below that another round of doom doom can come
14:00 MJ : 1178 bnf
14:00 MJ : red
14:00 MJ : gochi?
14:04 K2dt : haha exactly
14:05 Shai : If you are in profits today you have done a good job. Now stay out
14:05 Shai : there is a whack job happening
14:05 Surya ganti : yep.. whacked 🙂
14:06 Rahul : shai this system and 1128 got me in green…thannks
14:06 Ashwath : 🤞
14:06 Ashwath : sorry
14:06 MJ : Cheers Rahul!
14:07 Shai : +1 Rahul
14:07 Rahul : thanks MJ, room keep me motivated even in loss
14:07 Rahul : cheers to all.
14:07 Rajan Modi : thats true Rahul 🙂
14:08 MJ : It’s amazing to see what shai has built here at VT.
14:09 K2dt : +1000 MJ .. all of his concepts can be visualised realtime… no mumbo jumbo bs
14:09 K2dt : and an amazing success rate 🙂
14:10 Rahul : Yes K2, his hardwork and our learning…
14:10 Shai : _/|_- (14:08) MJ : It’s amazing to see what shai has built here at VT.
14:11 K2dt : +1 Rahul
14:11 Shai : Cheers – (14:09) K2dt : +1000 MJ .. all of his concepts can be visualised realtime… no mumbo jumbo bs
14:11 MJ : now 1178’s home is pivot on downside.
14:11 MJ : above ibh rock and roll?
14:11 K2dt : dax entering scary territory..
14:15 Shai : K in
14:15 Rajiv Ohri : Mota seems to be wit the CE writers today
14:20 Sanjib : 30330 is 1 ATR target, I reckon
14:21 Rajeshwarrao : shai nifty seems to close at dval
14:22 MJ : slurrp!
14:23 MJ : Yest K low, today K high.
14:23 Rajan Modi : Shai – 13800 PE CE @ 60 now, should we sell?
14:23 MJ : MP!
14:23 MJ : love it.
14:26 Shai : heading for 13715 again
14:29 Shai : 173 is book
14:30 Anand : 173 Shai ?
14:31 Sanjib : Anand – that green fellow at 13750 (now 187)
14:32 Anand : ok.. got it.. thanks
14:33 Shai : 13785 is the shoirt
14:34 K2dt : that rb spoiling it
14:35 Rajiv Ohri : Shai shorts in?
14:35 MJ : while smartie writers are cleaning 30k strike.
14:36 Shai : no positions
14:36 Ankush Jain : +1
14:37 Ravi : first buying tail (H) since the FA at 14616 in NF and FA in BNF ..price movement to halt Shai? sideways?
14:38 Shai : can go sideways tom
14:38 Shai : gaps are invisible tails
14:38 Shai : so there is a tail abv
14:38 Ravi : thanks Shai
14:39 K2dt : settlement at 800 decided chief?
14:41 Vidhyasagar Lingesan : K has been Kind to writers today
14:42 Sanjib : Poor highs in BNF?
14:49 Tejpreet : time for a quick peekaboo at 700 pe writers.
14:49 Rajiv Ohri : Tej Banta to hai
14:50 Tejpreet : bwelow 720 can be done
14:51 Shai : 13800 pe abv 62 shoukd give 96
14:51 Shai : no other trade looks good
14:52 Shai : 96/120 doublle
14:52 Tejpreet : +1
14:52 Shai : NF will have to drop tp 13690
14:54 Rajiv Ohri : BNF also ready to cooperate looks like
14:56 Sanjib : almost a PPOC in BNF, except H
14:58 MJ : Sanjib fix poor highs too.
14:59 Shai : lost the chance\
14:59 Tejpreet : yes tsl gone
14:59 Shai : 13800 ce pe now down\
14:59 Sanjib : targetting 1ATR as well, MJ 🙂
14:59 MJ : +1
15:00 MJ : Got into donation trade at 100. (14:35) MJ : while smartie writers are cleaning 30k strike.
15:00 Sanjib : I am into Feb monthly 30K CE strike at 1141
15:00 MJ : Lovely.
15:01 Uttam : 30270 Dec vwap here in BNF
15:02 Shai : NF vwap crossed we get 40 more
15:04 Shai : 800 ce for 36/ 42
15:04 MJ : 30k smarties got chopped!
15:04 MJ : brutal chop.
15:04 Tejpreet : +1 MJ ne close for bn
15:04 MJ : 310 part out.
15:05 MJ : now just tsl.
15:05 Shai : +1
15:06 Shai : in – (15:02) Shai : NF vwap crossed we get 40 more(15:04) Shai : 800 ce for 36/ 42
15:06 Milind : 30000 BNF 04 Feb 631 to 778
15:06 Sanjib : Out at 1234 (bought at 1141 – 30K CE Feb monthly)
15:06 MJ : +1 sanjib
15:06 MJ : cheers.
15:06 Sanjib : Thanks
15:07 MJ : Almost hit pday singles @bnf.
15:07 Shai : one more leg pending abv 13840 for 13910
15:07 Shai : go in 13800c e abv 36 sl of 18
15:07 Sanjib : BNF does 1 ATR from FA lows of 29661
15:07 Shai : Abv 13844**
15:08 MJ : 4pt something 30200 ce has hit the roof.
15:14 Shai : ignore now- (15:02) Shai : NF vwap crossed we get 40 more(15:04) Shai : 800 ce for 36/ 42
15:14 Shai : time out
15:15 Tejpreet : Shai a feb put spread long carry worth a punt.
15:16 Shai : we may be inside tom
15:16 Shai : 14000- 13600
15:17 Tejpreet : tks…and vix might cool down a bit
15:19 Sri 81 : what about the 13500 PE positional view shai?
15:22 Viswas : 30100ce 13 to 300+ writers rip.
15:22 Shai : we shoukd do 13500 for this leg of the auction
15:22 Shai : that 13500 pe is advisiable in parts
15:23 Shai : tom anything near 13950 would invite sellers again
15:23 Ankush Jain : premiums can melt after budget
15:23 Ankush Jain : rather will melt
15:23 Viswas : our market reacting fast on both end first , later global market reacting. observation
15:23 Shai : hoping to get thjere on budegt day i
15:23 Ankush Jain : 🙂
15:23 Shai : tc everyone
15:24 Shai : have a good evening
15:24 Shai : will catch up at 08.30 pm
15:24 Uttam : +1
15:24 Rohit : Thanks Shai
15:24 Sumeet : cheers guys…
15:24 Ashwath : Thanks Shai.
15:25 Surya ganti : what’s at 830pm?
15:27 Uttam : breakout session
15:27 Prashant : seminar by shai
15:28 Ankush Jain : Surya aa jaana. It will be good learning
15:28 Uttam : thanks All 🙂 have a lovely evening
15:28 Tejpreet : Bye All.
15:34 Surya ganti : thanks.. will see you in the evening
15:34 Surya ganti : bye