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09:24 Shai : (09:24) Shai : Intra- Buy BNF 30560 sl of 30440 tgt 30670/ 30758
09:26 Shai : (09:26) Shai : 30620 book hakf here and ride at cost some
09:34 Shai : (09:34) Shai : Book fully BNF 30635
10:37 Shai : (10:37) Shai : Intra- Buy BNF 30655 sl of 30525 tgt 30800
10:58 Shai : (10:57) Shai : Book BNF for now 30699
10:58 Shai : (10:58) Shai : Those who want to hold mainatin sl at 30610
11:49 Shai : (11:49) Shai : Intra- Short BNF 30742 sl of 30825 tgt 30640
12:06 Shai : (12:06) Shai : BNf stopped
12:47 Shai : (12:47) Shai : Intra – Buy BNF 30960 sl pf 30860 tgt 31190. reduce size and trade
13:03 Shai : (13:02) Shai : BNF 31060 Book half here
13:23 Shai : (13:23) Shai : BNf book fully 31090
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08:51 Chandrashekhar : GM all
09:00 Shai : Gm all
09:00 Shai : https://vtrender.com/market-profile-analysis-dated-7th-november/
09:03 Sai : good morning all
09:03 Uttam : Good Morning All 🙂
09:05 Shai : Moody in news at the open again
09:07 Shai : ref line afain at 12000 for the open
09:08 Shai : 30660 in BNF
09:20 Chandrashekhar : 67 K greens at vwap for NIfty – uttam?
09:21 Chandrashekhar : in 3omin candle
09:22 KK : 975 a buy with 57 Sl or might not come ?
09:22 Shai : yes
09:23 Shai : 12030 expected
09:23 KK : 975 first or 12030 ?
09:24 Shai : Intra- Buy BNF 30560 sl of 30440 tgt 30670/ 30758
09:24 Uttam : 30min candle still forming Chandrashekar
09:25 Nishchal : GM All
09:26 Shai : 30620 book hakf here and ride at cost some
09:26 Shai : one – for the early birds
09:28 Shai : NF looking for a test of 12030 and 12050
09:28 Uttam : yes no sellers in this lower open in both
09:34 Shai : Book fully BNF 30635
09:38 Boppanna : Shai POC rejection BNF?
09:39 Shai : not taking chances – that POC is prominenet
09:39 Shai : prominent]
09:39 Shai : will keep attracting price though
09:44 Boppanna : On to B now
09:45 Shai : NF decided to stay at 12000
09:45 Uttam : both get weak if broke below PDL
09:46 Uttam : unable to get above the yPOC
09:46 Azmath : Yes shai
09:46 Uttam : 11999 needs to be sustains in NF for an attmept to
09:46 Azmath : Looks like again today coffee day till half time
09:47 Azmath : or
09:47 Azmath : gap nt filled.. we can trend down, c period confirmation
09:48 Uttam : BN spot is in plus actually?
09:51 Govind : Yeah UG, ICICIB
09:54 Boppanna : 26k green at the top NF
09:54 Uttam : 0s at 30645
09:54 Uttam : 11996 in NF
09:56 Shai : icici res for 134 points off the 110 gains
09:56 Shai : 🙂
09:57 Govind : All index stocks should be part of the MSCI then…:)
09:58 Govind : Well,RIL just heating up…
10:04 Jitender : tats 32k red at top ?
10:05 Niraj : sir can we get any guidance on approach for positional as well
10:06 Boppanna : Shai BNF all COT -ve in this move above POC being rise being sold?
10:07 Shai : postnl; outlook same no change- (10:05) Niraj : sir can we get any guidance on approach for positional as well
10:08 Shai : 11960 sl for 12108
10:08 Uttam : 45k red in BNF & 0s above it
10:08 Jitender : k
10:09 Jitender : bnf has travelled yday VA
10:09 Shai : All through that NF unmoved
10:09 Shai : early longs booking BNF
10:09 Jitender : ys
10:09 Jitender : first btfd playd
10:10 Rajiv : JIT in ur experience which BTFD fails. 3rd?
10:11 Uttam : first one works that is for sure I guess 😉
10:11 Jitender : yh
10:11 Jitender : beyond 3 iD same setup is risky
10:12 Jitender : up2 is safe …
10:12 Jitender : i reduce qty post 2..if i have to do a 3rd time
10:12 Chandrashekhar : BTFD is the Buy in the dips?
10:12 Jitender : the idea Rajiv is..unless u r very sure…always reduce qty post 1 DT
10:13 Jitender : ys Chandra
10:13 Rajiv : yup
10:13 Manish : +1 Jit bhai. Agree
10:15 Jitender : n 1 more thing..unless u have spent 6-8 yers mkt…dont trade till first 30 mins
10:15 Jitender : *20 mins
10:28 Jitender : Uttam..supp n resis in 30.6pe pls
10:30 Uttam : 310 & 380 on upside
10:30 Shai : only icici holdinmg this up today
10:30 Shai : no strength anywhere else
10:30 Govind : NF ready to test PDL?
10:31 Shai : the resy of the market has to come
10:31 Uttam : downside not much data as of now but 270 immd sup
10:31 Jitender : tx
10:32 Boppanna : JIt 30.6k pe the drop from 324 has reached its target at 258 low around there
10:33 Boppanna : 334 initial hurdle
10:33 Azmath : C here
10:33 Govind : 11980 low
10:33 Uttam : above 330 that 30600pe can get stronger
10:33 Jitender : tx BoPs
10:33 Jitender : just done 265-316 on it
10:34 Uttam : 311.35 high in this rise (10:30) Uttam : 310 & 380 on upside
10:34 Jitender : didnt expect 800 on bnf to suatin n drop bck to yPOC
10:34 Boppanna : Below 630 Uttam’s hypo should rule it today aswell BNF
10:34 Jitender : i got a fill at 316 Uttam
10:35 Jitender : its vwap here at 313
10:36 Chandrashekhar : RO Point taken out Shai in Nifty?
10:36 Shai : not yet
10:36 Boppanna : 30400pe 205-235 above 235 move big
10:36 Shai : C
10:36 KK : 11969 entered.with SL 57
10:37 Shai : Intra- Buy BNF 30655 sl of 30525 tgt 30800
10:37 Chandrashekhar : 92+35 K greens there
10:39 Niraj : seems there is negative moment coming
10:40 Shai : shoukd test 12000 again 11956 sl
10:42 KK : Ok 56 SL.thanks
10:43 KK : Wont it go back 12050 once, after coming here
10:43 Niraj : sir what is current support level for banknifty
10:43 Shai : 30525 now
10:45 Niraj : ok
10:49 Niraj : Sir what is desi MO
10:49 Niraj : will this be covered in training session
10:53 Boppanna : @Niraj its on google MCclean’s Oscillator showing market breadth of advance and declines
10:54 Uttam : @Niraj it is an indicator to check if the market is oversold or overbought
10:55 Niraj : ok,
10:56 Niraj : in slack source would be there to read more about it
10:57 Shai : Book BNF for now 30699
10:58 Govind : Bought NF longs at 11966 zone for positionals. Let’s see.
10:58 Shai : Those who want to hold mainatin sl at 30610
11:00 Shai : BNf would keep coming back to 30640 all day now, at least till 3 pm
11:01 Shai : (09:39) Shai : not taking chances – that POC is prominent(09:39) Shai : will keep attracting price though
11:01 Shai : Any stray movement away have to fade
11:01 Jitender : +1
11:01 Shai : biased still plus as long as 30640 holds
11:04 Boppanna : +1
11:06 Uttam : this time the dip in BNF took sup exactly at 30630
11:07 Shai : RB at 11968 is up 20
11:07 Shai : if 11900 pe breaks 48.5 should attrcact writers again
11:08 Shai : I have gone short 30600 ce and pe at a net of 616
11:09 Manish : intraday shai ?
11:09 Shai : yes plan to cover at 3.20
11:09 Shai : that POC is best candidate for these strats
11:11 Uttam : NF turning weak here
11:11 Uttam : unable to get above VWAP
11:12 Manish : can u pls elaborate a little shai. VPOC for straddle or bnf ? vpoc for straddle stands at 633 around and shifting down as compared to yesterday
11:13 Uttam : @Manish when we have a prominent POC, we either fget a move away from that on volumes at open which if does not happen means we could make a balance around it for most part of that day
11:13 Uttam : prominent POC is like a magnet so if we do not move away from it with inititive activity, we keep getting bac k ot it
11:17 Jitender : tx fr sharing yr trade Shai
11:20 KK null : day of many small trips
11:21 Govind : BNF ready for an upmove?
11:21 Uttam : yes both looks like
11:22 Uttam : PE OI not coming down at all since morning
11:24 Govind : +1 UG.
11:28 Manish : thanks uttam
11:37 Govind : Booom
11:43 Uttam : 34k green right at top in BNF
11:43 Uttam : someone’s S: hit
11:43 Uttam : SL*
11:49 Shai : Intra- Short BNF 30742 sl of 30825 tgt 30640
12:02 Niraj : STRONG MOVE
12:03 Uttam : BNFfff
12:03 Uttam : boom boom
12:03 Niraj : 860 boke
12:03 Manish : SL hit
12:06 Boppanna : NF just not having momentum
12:06 Shai : BNf stopped
12:09 KK : at what level short covering starts ?
12:10 Uttam : BNF boom boom
12:11 Gaurav : icici bank wants to do 500 today 😛
12:11 Govind : Uttam, 12035 coming?
12:11 Uttam : yes
12:11 Uttam : 31k where are thou
12:11 Jitender : 30.7ce 364-448
12:11 Govind : Happy Fryday then 🙂
12:12 Boppanna : IBH 1lk red
12:13 Shai : BNF weird mood
12:13 Jitender : icici n hdfc
12:13 Manish : bad day. got hard hit
12:13 Chandrashekhar : is that the longs at 11970 exiting?
12:13 Jitender : bought at 477 at 3.15 yday
12:15 Shai : 30950 critcial
12:17 Boppanna : Shai that 1lkh red fresh guy or morning buyer?
12:17 Boppanna : NF
12:17 Shai : cover order
12:18 Jitender : hope u recover it Manish
12:19 Shai : bene a tough day with 1-2 stocks pullling the index- (12:13) Manish : bad day. got hard hit
12:19 Shai : but there is time
12:19 Shai : Bias stays plus
12:20 Shai : refocus and re- group
12:20 Shai : BNF runs to 311190 id 30950 is crossed
12:20 Shai : SC can happen
12:21 Shai : NF 12035 still doable here
12:22 Shai : 30600 pe is a fresh short bel;ow 198 for 100 sl of 240
12:23 Boppanna : Uttam got all his hypo targets now next above 955 sustaining a) BNF needs to sustain above 30690 for a rise to 30760-795 / 30850-895 & 30955
12:26 Uttam : 30700 OI having a crossover here
12:27 Uttam : 12k CE OI needs to start coming down for NF to rise
12:28 Jitender : bnf does 500 bps from lows
12:28 Uttam : did mention yesterday overall structure in BNF is very bullish
12:28 Jitender : +1
12:28 Uttam : we have a monthly FA at 30052
12:29 Niraj : FA ??
12:29 Niraj : false auction
12:29 Uttam : in fact was asking Shai if can expect 32k
12:29 Uttam : failed auction
12:29 Niraj : yaa
12:29 Jitender : 740 is supp now
12:31 Govind : Auction over for now at 12025?
12:32 Uttam : needs to stay above 12012
12:32 Uttam : move higher could continue
12:32 Shai : There is vol expansion at 30795 which pushed the BNF higher
12:32 Uttam : yes Shai big vols there
12:32 Shai : I think another round os due
12:33 Uttam : that 33k was not a stuck buyer, he had otherp lans
12:33 Shai : it’s BNF in the mad mode – hurts often but just the way it is
12:36 Uttam : 11990 test coming in NF?
12:44 Niraj : abikibaar 31000
12:44 Uttam : spot already does it Niraj
12:44 Niraj : yes sir
12:45 Niraj : i’m holding long banknifty
12:45 Niraj : so waiting
12:45 Uttam : was expecting yesterday expiry at 31k but came a day late
12:46 Niraj : sir i feel big player always play with small people emotions.
12:46 Niraj : when retails are long market wont move
12:46 Uttam : no sir please _/\_
12:46 Niraj : sorry forgot
12:46 Niraj : actually you all are so experience that the moment i see shai sir/ you and few others only
12:47 Uttam : big people are not bothered about reail, they do what they want to do, we only need to identidy that
12:47 Niraj : sir comes in my mind with folded hands
12:47 Shai : Intra – Buy BNF 30960 sl pf 30860 tgt 31190. reduce size and trade
12:48 Shai : 12034- (12:21) Shai : NF 12035 still doable here
12:48 Uttam : BNF has left an ext handle at where we had a selling tail yesterday
12:48 Shai : need big volume here again 12035
12:48 Uttam : so bottom part of the 3-1-3 profile was rejected
12:48 Shai : NF has a lot of catch up to do
12:49 Uttam : yes Shai & guess that is why BNF pausing a bit here
13:00 Shai : 12012 supp
13:00 Shai : watch for vol expnsion over 12035
13:01 Niraj : sir todays Moodys have rated India with negtive outlook
13:01 Niraj : but markets are at top
13:01 Uttam : happns most of the time
13:01 KK : moody is moody
13:01 Shai : That’s a buy signal Niraj 🙂
13:02 Shai : 39
13:02 Shai : 43
13:02 Jitender : booom
13:02 Uttam : boom boom
13:02 Uttam : 1049 here
13:02 Uttam : 31049*
13:02 Shai : BNF 31060 Book half here
13:03 Niraj : 31000
13:03 Niraj : superb
13:03 Shai : 47k big buyer
13:03 Shai : Aana do
13:03 Uttam : NF also getting into the groove
13:03 Uttam : yep 0s below it
13:03 KK : NF starts
13:03 Shai : from – to 2+ now
13:04 Shai : game changed
13:04 Uttam : 31100ce from 195 to 280 booked 50%
13:04 Shai : (12:19) Shai : but there is time(12:19) Shai : Bias stays plus(12:20) Shai : refocus and re- group
13:05 Boppanna : +1
13:06 Uttam : 12k CE OI dropping
13:07 Uttam : (11:21) Govind : BNF ready for an upmove?(11:21) Uttam : yes both looks like(11:22) Uttam : PE OI not coming down at all since morning
13:07 Shai : NF buy with sl of 12040
13:07 Shai : 12044 dip buyer shoould come now till 3
13:08 Shai : 12022 sl into close
13:09 Uttam : 12073 is 3 IB in NF and this after doing the 1.5 IB down today
13:09 Uttam : 31120 2 IB in BNF
13:10 Jitender : were’s 3ib
13:10 Uttam : 31433
13:11 Jitender : k
13:11 Uttam : 🙂 irrade kya hain Jit
13:12 Shai : 12096/ 12116 with sl of 12022
13:13 Jitender : abv 31180 sustains…3IB on Uttam bhai
13:13 Uttam : 31417 will also be the 1 atr from weekly FA of 30052
13:14 Uttam : 30052 gave a faily / weekly & monthly Fa in BNF
13:14 Uttam : daily*
13:14 Jitender : cool
13:16 Uttam : 12k OI crossover happening here
13:16 Boppanna : One small dip to 30990 and back to Uttam’s 31219
13:17 Shai : yes
13:17 Shai : poss
13:17 Shai : Nf also needs more vol
13:18 Uttam : 31002 is a nice ext handle, let it remain guys 😉
13:19 Boppanna : just need a reload on 31K CE Uttam 🙂
13:21 Uttam : 30800 OI also getting a crossover
13:21 Jitender : v=boom
13:22 Jitender : out
13:22 Uttam : 31099
13:22 Boppanna : Squeezing before Euro opens
13:23 Shai : BNf book fully 31090
13:24 Shai : Anyone got here at 12049 book once – (13:07) Shai : NF buy with sl of 12040
13:24 Shai : buy the dip
13:26 Boppanna : Nice trade Shai
13:27 Shai : this dip imp
13:28 KK : +1
13:29 Jitender : timing 13.22 exit 🙂
13:30 Shai : ++
13:30 Shai : hmm
13:30 KK : time to buy monthly PE 12K and sit
13:31 Shai : no
13:31 KK : this may go all the way
13:32 Shai : 11999 supp
13:33 Jitender : man theese algo’s
13:33 Shai : NF buy abv 12017 sl of 11999 for 12068
13:33 Shai : buy abv*
13:34 KK : bnf buy ?
13:34 Mudita : Shai, BNF can get some dip if it tags todays vwap?
13:34 Shai : holding game on- (13:32) Shai : 11999 supp
13:35 Mudita : sorry some bounce
13:36 KK : chance it may stop at 880
13:36 KK : or 960 ?
13:36 Shai : gone
13:37 Uttam : -2.7L COT
13:38 Uttam : stopping for now at the comp VAH of 11985
13:38 Uttam : 11961 hvn in that comp
13:38 Uttam : below that 11910 coming?
13:39 Jitender : gt a fill in bnf at 834 SL 790
13:40 Chandrashekhar : this selling was because all the long liquidation Shai?
13:41 Shai : yes break of 12044
13:41 Shai : caught all that bhuying off
13:42 Jitender : moving SL to 844,…
13:42 Uttam : +1 Jit
13:42 Shai : +1
13:42 Shai : 12000- 12017 contecxt zone
13:43 Shai : Hope everyone got an exit- (13:23) Shai : BNf book fully 31090(13:24) Shai : Anyone got here at 12049 book once – (13:07) Shai : NF buy with sl of 12040
13:43 Shai : not the day to be away from screens
13:43 Uttam : what a timely all that was Shai +100
13:44 KK : someone in europe likes Moodys
13:44 Shai : that RS was visible
13:44 Shai : 12065 and 31090
13:44 Shai : All in teh charts- just have to pay attention
13:46 Shai : 12010 due sl of 11969
13:46 Jitender : bookd half at 925
13:46 Shai : 12004
13:47 Uttam : congo Jit
13:47 Shai : Nice trade Jit
13:47 Uttam : 30940 is where we have 0s in BNF
13:47 Jitender : tx Shai n Uttam
13:47 Jitender : m just happy at my exits yday n today
13:48 Shai : lot of blood on the street today
13:48 Shai : retail got whacked left and right
13:48 Uttam : yes Shai
13:49 Bhavani : That was brutal… VT retail was saved from blood bath:)
13:50 KK : sell on rise now to EoD
13:50 Jitender : we r abv retail here ..at VT 🙂
13:50 Jitender : tats wat being here means
13:50 Bhavani : Agree Jit.. Though our cash power is small.., system is superior ..!
13:51 Jitender : risk management & position sizing is the key for tradn any system…
13:51 Jitender : print at n stick on yr comp’s
13:51 Jitender : VT is the edge
13:52 Jitender : u cant manage risk…no system will help u
13:52 Shai : ++- (13:51) Jitender : risk management & position sizing is the key for tradn any system…
13:52 Shai : Chances are they settle this here at 12000 for close today
13:55 Jitender : book 945
13:55 Jitender : bal half
14:07 KK : is this the end of the rally or signal to one more PC ?
14:19 Prajwal null : seller ibl ??
14:20 Uttam : BNF could end the week at 30630 Shai if 30800 taken out?
14:23 Shai : Yes 30725 test can come
14:45 Jitender : on 4th had said 12:34 Jitender : cud go into bal of 30.1-30.7 bnf spot tis week
14:46 Jitender : broke balance today…
14:46 Jitender : wud b interestn to see if it goes back into it or not next week
14:52 Shai : Nifty may want to do one test below 11900 spot next week
14:52 Shai : today supply is quick
14:52 Shai : And means Nifty would break this demand and go lower
14:53 Shai : for now it is still a test of the 11887 F zone
14:54 Shai : Arre baba – donlt do today
14:55 Jitender : 🙂
14:56 Jitender : nf dl
14:57 Shai : yes
14:57 Uttam : (13:38) Uttam : stopping for now at the comp VAH of 11985(13:38) Uttam : 11961 hvn in that comp(13:38) Uttam : below that 11910 coming?
14:57 Uttam : 11961 holding for now
14:57 KK : is i t a buy with 56 SL
14:57 Uttam : nope
14:57 KK : nopes
14:57 Uttam : Neutral EXtreme down
14:57 Shai : 11955 sl for 12005 cmp 11963
14:58 Shai : 10 point risk
14:58 Shai : go short with Uttam below 955
15:02 Chandrashekhar : 1 lac green agian?
15:02 Shai : BNf just holding that morning vol exp zone
15:02 Shai : there is reds around it so not as good- (15:02) Chandrashekhar : 1 lac green agian?
15:04 Shai : sl
15:04 Uttam : (14:20) Uttam : BNF could end the week at 30630 Shai if 30800 taken out?
15:04 Boppanna : BNF
15:04 Uttam : 3:05 move
15:05 KK : Gr8
15:06 KK : stopped 94K.so
15:06 Rajiv : Shai these green are shorts covering or RB
15:06 Shai : thsi alst 1 is a buyer
15:09 Jitender : gap dwn monday ?
15:12 Shai : neut ext
15:12 Shai : Uttam ordered
15:12 Shai : follow up diff if no gap down
15:15 Jitender : 43 points n 13 mins fr bnf to go back into bal
15:15 KK : they ar covring the gap down today only
15:15 Boppanna : 725/660
15:15 Uttam : _/\_ (15:12) Shai : Uttam ordered
15:16 Jitender : thoose of you who are ending in greem mtm…gv yrself a pat…it was a tough day…..n today was a litmus test fr risk management
15:16 Jitender : 30706 spot…yay
15:16 Jitender : 30700 it is
15:17 Jitender : 200 bps dwn in last 35 mins
15:17 Shai : below – (14:52) Shai : Nifty may want to do one test below 11900 spot next week
15:17 Shai : could have waited till monday, donlt undertand the hurry 🙂
15:18 Jitender : hehe
15:18 Shai : one more neut ext
15:19 Jitender : 1.22 was the exit at 30180
15:19 Shai : 30180?
15:19 Uttam : weekly POC in BNF shifts higher to 30690
15:19 Jitender : 31180 🙂
15:19 Uttam : so move down looks done for the day
15:20 Niraj : sir fa theory
15:20 Niraj : in play
15:20 Niraj : again
15:21 Niraj : it started from 30700
15:21 AmitN : Your Timing was awesome Jit, you do that so consistently. _/\_
15:21 Niraj : cam back
15:21 Niraj : there
15:21 Jitender : tx Amit…..
15:21 Uttam : +100 Jit
15:21 Jitender : volatile mkts…key is not to be greedy and overstay the wc
15:21 Jitender : cheers Uttam
15:22 Niraj : wc?
15:22 Uttam : welcom
15:22 Jitender : i try my best to put it out here,….hate anyone at VT loosing money
15:22 Uttam : Tuesday is a holiday next week
15:22 Jitender : ys
15:22 Uttam : so only 3 days for the weekly options
15:26 Boppanna : Shai BNF view for next week pls?
15:26 Shai : 30660 supp 1
15:27 Shai : 30290 supp 2
15:27 Shai : Bye all
15:27 Shai : Hope everyone had a good day
15:28 Boppanna : thx Shai and all
15:28 Shai : Have a good weekend
15:28 Shai : catch up Mon
15:28 Uttam : thanks All 🙂 have a lovely weekend
15:28 Niraj : wish you the same too