General Chat Transcript
Date and Time: September 03, 2014 09:25:08
[08:56] r m : Good Morning folks!
[08:57] Sharad : Good Morning RM …
[08:58] r m : Hi Sharad
[08:58] Sharad : Hi i have started trading again…
[08:58] Sharad : so on trial for 2-3 days
[08:59] r m : ok
[09:00] Shai : GM all
[09:00] Shai : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-03rd-sept/#more-22581
[09:01] Rahul G : Hello all GM
[09:02] Rahul G : GM rm , shai and sharad
[09:02] Mandar : Good morning all
[09:03] r m : Hi Shai, Rahul, Mandar
[09:05] Sharad : Hi all
[09:09] r m : Pre-market suggests open above PDH for both NF and BNF
[09:09] r m : yesterday also pre-market opened above PDH but actual open was within range
[09:14] Shai : 3IB day yesterday
[09:15] Shai : with evidence of sellers in the last 30- 35 points
[09:15] Shai : either they stay back today and float the market or they cover and we rally again
[09:16] Dr Bansal : Shai,GM.
[09:16] Shai : 8142 is what we waited for last eve at teh close and we get it in the first second today 🙁
[09:18] Shai : BNF fale point alert at 16295
[09:18] Shai : *fake
[09:19] Shai : GM Dr
[09:20] Shai : we are looking to buy BNF near VAH now for that 16295
[09:24] Shai : Buy BNF abv 16218, sl 16190, tgt 16252/ 16295
[09:24] Dr Bansal : shai,can buy bnf here?
[09:24] Dr Bansal : ok.
[09:24] Shai : Buy abv 218 only
[09:32] Shai : Early morning NF confirming below pdh mostly
[09:34] Shai : 16295 is a fake point with bid ask of 16205
[09:34] Sumit : gm everyone
[09:35] Shai : the reason for that long trade is that BNF mostly goes to these points during the day ir-respective of the TA involved
[09:35] Shai : but let it come abv VAH for us to put that in action
[09:39] r m : BN chose to do 80%
[09:39] Shai : 80% yes
[09:41] Shai : Sellers coming in NF
[09:42] Shai : Sell NF 8127- 8130 sl 8144, tgt 8112/ 8087
[09:46] Shai : Now that short in BNF near 16170 looks like a lost opportunity 🙁
[09:46] Shai : got waylaid by the fake print
[09:46] r m : i took 80% but exited at VAL 🙁
[09:46] Shai : cool trade
[09:47] r m : Thanks
[09:47] r m : should have followed Hypo2 at VAL with a stop at POC but was trading with option which lose value very fast
[09:49] Shai : that reverse 80 can happen in BNF
[09:49] Shai : for the quick fingers
[09:49] Shai : 16090/ 16060 is a good supp
[10:12] Shai : IB range done
[10:12] Shai : would have preferred 8112 in this IB
[10:14] Sharad : What is IB Shai
[10:16] r m : Initial balance, first hour’s range
[10:16] Sharad : ok Thanks
[10:17] r m : welcome
[10:17] r m : BNF hesitating inside value
[10:20] Shai : interesting move in CNXIT today and the reason for the BNF decline of the morning
[10:20] r m : yes
[10:21] r m : NF negotiating vwap
[10:21] Shai : 200 points upside is there in cnxit if it stays above current day low
[10:25] Shai : 40 points upside in BNF above 16170 to 16210
[10:25] Shai : more buyers shpowing up near vwap
[10:25] Shai : in BNF that is
[10:25] Shai : passive orderflow is green and responding well at day lows
[10:28] Shai : Buy BNf abv 16170 tgt 16210 sl 16139
[10:29] Shai : Exit NF short trade above 8140
[10:37] Shai : NF more in a repair mode today
[10:43] Shai : OI buildup- http://screencast.com/t/22swokiuLe
[10:44] Chiranthan : NF SL hit
[10:44] Shai : 10:44 Chiranthan : NF SL hit
[10:45] Mandar : AD 906:499
[10:46] Shai : Thanks Mandar
[10:49] Shai : Buyers coming in NF
[10:51] Chiranthan : Buy BNF now?
[10:52] Sharad : I think BNF buy above POC
[10:57] Shai : Yes can buy abv POC also
[10:57] Shai : quite a battle at vwap
[10:58] Shai : IT has decided to come off a bit leaving place for BNF to complete that 80%
[10:59] Shai : you can see buyers prevailing just by a bit in BNF
[11:17] Shai : 8th Sept will be one full month of this rally
[11:18] Shai : was 7540 spot on 8th aug
[11:21] Shai : reverse 80- (09:49) Shai :that reverse 80 can happen in BNF
[11:21] r m : bn done 80% on reversal too!
[11:22] r m : @Shai, NF on the way to 8174?
[11:23] Shai : cover BNf tgt done at 16210- 10:28) Shai :Buy BNf abv 16170 tgt 16210 sl 16139
[11:23] Shai : Aggressive traders keep an eye over 16220 for that 16295 visist
[11:24] Shai : this 1- (09:24) Shai :Buy BNF abv 16218, sl 16190, tgt 16252/ 16295
[11:24] Shai : I would prefer to take that trade in the afternoon
[11:24] Shai : conservatives can let it pass
[11:24] Shai : RM not very excited about a long here
[11:24] Shai : in NF
[11:25] r m : ok, thanks
[11:25] Shai : 8164- 8174 is in the acution path above 8141 but looking riskier
[11:26] r m : ok
[11:26] Shai : Besides not getting a stable buy orderflow blue to confirm the long plan
[11:26] r m : it is more like stable red here 🙂
[11:27] Shai : yes
[11:27] Shai : may still rise but not worth risking a lot of money
[11:27] r m : ok
[11:28] Shai : move is being driven by the passive green pink since yesterday
[11:28] Shai : when that become pink the buyers will cash out
[11:30] Shai : In BNF green from 10.00 am at 16110- (10:25) Shai :passive orderflow is green and responding well at day lows
[11:30] Chiranthan : Can I reenter BNF long here?
[11:33] Shai : no
[11:33] Chiranthan : ok
[11:33] Shai : can fall to 16140
[11:34] Shai : 8136 NF
[11:51] Shai : sell NF closer to 8138-8140 sl of 8152 tgt 8118
[11:53] Sumit : 3rd value trip completed in bnf
[11:53] Shai : Confirmation coming now that the move off expiry day is over and we go sideways in 2 sided mode again
[11:54] Shai : that green pink always works better in BNF
[11:55] Shai : never figured why
[11:57] Sumit : val holding
[12:27] Sharad : Sell NF ? 8137 ?
[12:29] Sharad : sold NF @ 8137
[12:30] Shai : Yes we keep day high as sl
[12:31] Shai : day high +1
[12:32] Sumit : is bnf going for VAH again 🙂
[12:34] Shai : conf abv vwap only
[12:47] Shai : buyers in BNF at vah
[12:52] Sharad : Shai what is OF Wave line in BNF chart
[13:01] Shai : that is the positional orderflow currently on buy signal from 15996
[13:02] Sharad : it is 16196 so what it means?
[13:02] Shai : Larger Orderflow gave buy signal at 16196F so it means the bigger TF is on buy mode
[13:03] Shai : when next alert comes we will get confirmation if sellers are getting stronger
[13:03] Sharad : yes but what is current value 16196.25 ?
[13:04] Shai : near that 16196
[13:05] Sharad : so how to use it?
[13:07] Shai : the next signal will get updated on twitter @V2OF. A number of factors go in it inclusing the curren t day intra day orderflow, movement above vwap/ vah etc or below val
[13:07] Shai : If w ecome below VAL now then we get a sell alert on BNF
[13:08] Shai : that should take it to 15930/ 15707 possibly
[13:08] Sharad : ok Thanks
[13:09] Shai : Nice bell shape forming in NF
[13:09] Shai : eben in BNF if we exclude that 16295 print
[13:10] Shai : more likely a close at 8135 today
[13:10] Shai : pre market message – signs appeared that the market will go back into balance in the next session.
[13:11] Shai : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-03rd-sept/
[13:11] Chiranthan : NF SELL call open now?
[13:12] Shai : yes it’s open for some time now
[13:13] Shai : BNf 14700 to 16200 in last 25 days
[13:14] Shai : Nifty 7540 to 8133 in alst 25 days
[13:15] Shai : tomorrow is Draghi day
[13:16] Shai : A Big QE is the expectation
[13:16] Shai : but may be factored in the current price already
[13:16] Shai : so watch for a sell on news event early friday – high probabaility
[13:24] Shai : Close the NF short near 8133- 8135 and remain flat .
[13:25] Shai : Not a lot happening- very quiet and local to local
[13:31] Sumit : VAH done
[13:31] Sumit : in bnf
[13:32] Shai : NF slo in touble
[13:32] Sharad : NF sl hit
[13:32] Shai : gone
[13:33] Shai : NF slo taken- exit the shorts
[13:39] Sharad : NF two trades today .. both in loss
[13:40] Sumit : bnf going for 16294
[13:40] Shai : BNF 16220 long trade on
[13:41] Shai : Yes Sharad 2 shorts we took with small stops of 12 each as it was against trend
[13:42] Sharad : yes no issues…
[13:43] Shai : the 8140 was an IB band trade which functions as well as the 80%
[13:48] Shai : If we close above 16260 today then BNF will give us 16520 by friday close
[13:48] Shai : +260
[13:49] Shai : that 16500 ce makes sense then
[13:49] Shai : sl of 16140 F
[13:50] Shai : for the moment – we are facing supply near 16240 from yesterday
[13:52] r m : 16500CE should be worth 298 Rs at present volatility at BNF 15520 on Friday
[13:54] Shai : Hold that BNF long trade with sl just below vwap
[13:54] Shai : BNF is known to do a few things post 2.30 pm
[13:55] Chiranthan : Modify SL to 16170?
[13:55] Shai : 16166
[13:56] r m : IT and infy at day high
[13:57] r m : Looks like Sikka has patented some process of manufacturing gold in infy 🙂
[13:59] Shai : 11017 cnxit
[14:00] r m : nf does that 8174 in hypo2
[14:04] Shriraj : would like to know what will sl f hypo2
[14:05] Shai : ukraine Russia ceasefire is being given as the reason
[14:05] Shriraj : 8134…?
[14:05] Shai : yes sl would have been just below vah
[14:05] Shai : yes 8134
[14:06] Shriraj : k thnx
[14:06] Shai : smart explosion from 8142
[14:08] r m : supply at 240 in BNF
[14:10] Shai : stronger buyers near 210
[14:11] Shai : should get overco\me
[14:11] r m : ok
[14:11] Shai : russia and ukraine up 5% and nifty wants to compete 🙂
[14:11] r m : lol
[14:19] Shai : Revise sl again to 16205-09:24) Shai :Buy BNF abv 16218, sl 16190, tgt 16252/ 16295
[14:19] r m : 16205?
[14:19] Shai : yes 16205
[14:19] r m : Thanks
[14:20] Shai : exit order at 16252 did not strike
[14:20] r m : it touched 257 once
[14:21] Shai : yes some one carried away everything there at 257
[14:21] r m : ok
[14:21] Shai : 210 is a nice base to challenge that seller at 250 theneasy rise to 295
[14:22] r m : ok
[14:25] Chiranthan : NF SL hit
[14:25] Chiranthan : BNF
[14:25] Sumit : quick fall
[14:28] r m : maybe someone violated that ceasefire 😀
[14:28] Sumit : :))
[14:29] Sharad : Good no trade don’t know what happening
[14:29] r m : BNF has done that 80% for the fifth time today!!
[14:29] Sumit : crashingggggggg
[14:29] Sumit : I was about to say that:)
[14:37] Sharad : Sa=hai told close @ 8135 ….looks true
[14:41] Shai : actually was not agreed to 🙂 – (14:28) r m:maybe someone violated that ceasefire 😀
[14:41] r m : ok 🙂
[14:41] Shai : WSJ is saying Putin did not agree
[14:42] Shai : 8140 was there prior to that news and back to 8140
[14:42] Mandar : AD 735:761
[14:43] Shai : alomost equal now
[14:43] Mandar : YES
[14:45] Shai : BNf 80 % reverse again
[14:45] Sumit : rm, sixth trip by any chance??
[14:46] r m : looking like that 🙂
[14:47] Shai : Now Putin wants a ceasefire !
[14:47] r m : 😀
[14:47] Sumit : 🙂
[14:47] r m : looks like Putin squared off is puts and went long 😀
[14:48] Shai : 🙂
[14:48] Sumit : so all those making money are trading from war zone
[14:48] Shai : watch the Nkt react now
[14:50] Sumit : wow
[14:50] Shai : green again in BNF
[14:53] Shai : Long agan for 8174 , s;l 8137
[14:53] Sharad : In short Doji today …candelstick close near 8140
[14:53] Shai : Not a trade alert as mkt is bouncing
[14:53] Shai : trade if you like
[14:54] Shai : Sharad the bell got disturbed by that move abv 40 and back
[14:54] Sharad : ok
[14:54] Shai : auction theory would say that the mkt wants to go up and check that seller at 8170 again
[14:55] Sumit : so 16210/240 in bnf
[14:56] Shai : yes possible
[14:56] Shai : NF has been uncotrollable today
[14:56] Shai : and I don’t mean the volatility
[14:57] Shai : just the kind of move and orderflow behind it
[14:57] Shai : maybe a better day in NF tomorrow
[15:10] Shai : yesterday a lot of day shorts covered near the close
[15:15] Dr Bansal null : shai,these days evening session is there or not?
[15:18] Shai : No evening sessions now
[15:19] Shai : close coming near the vwap
[15:19] r m : BNF almost finished the 80% for the nth time!
[15:20] Shai : 16200- 210 saw builup and quick liquidation on that putin yes-no
[15:21] r m : yes
[15:30] Shai : close at vwap 8141
[15:30] Shai : Bye all
[15:30] Shai : Have a nice eve
[15:30] Sumit : good bye everyone.
[15:30] Sharad : bye
[15:30] r m : Thanks and bye, have a great evening 🙂
History of room Announcements
Date and Time: September 03, 2014 09:25:08
[09:00] Shai : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-03rd-sept/#more-22581
[09:24] Shai : (09:24) Shai :Buy BNF abv 16218, sl 16190, tgt 16252/ 16295
[09:42] Shai : (09:42) Shai :Sell NF 8127- 8130 sl 8144, tgt 8112/ 8087
[10:28] Shai : (10:28) Shai :Buy BNf abv 16170 tgt 16210 sl 16139
[10:29] Shai : (10:29) Shai :Exit NF short trade above 8140
[10:44] Shai : 10:44 Chiranthan : NF SL hit
[11:26] Shai : 11:23 Shai : cover BNf tgt done at 16210- 10:28) Shai :Buy BNf abv 16170 tgt 16210 sl 16139
[11:51] Shai : (11:51) Shai :sell NF closer to 8138-8140 sl of 8152 tgt 8118
[13:24] Shai : (13:24) Shai :Close the NF short near 8133- 8135 and remain flat .
[13:33] Shai : (13:33) Shai :NF slo taken- exit the shorts