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Date and Time: February 04, 2016 09:17:57
[09:04] Shai : (08:49) r m:http://vtrender.com/evening-report-trade-dated-03rd-feb/
(08:49) r m:http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-and-notes-030216/
(08:49) r m:Nifty FEB Future levels | KRA 7444 | Hypo1 above 7401➜7421➜7471 SL 7380 | Hypo2 below 7362➜7342➜7319 SL 7406
(08:49) r m:Banknifty FEB Future levels | KRA 15174 | Hypo1 above 14979➜15045➜15154 SL 14870 | Hypo2 below 14830➜14765➜14655 SL 14935
[09:20] Shai : (09:20) Shai :Intra day : Buy NF in 2 parts 7432 and at 7420 sl of 7399 tgt 7472/ 7496
[09:22] Shai : (09:22) Shai :positional update 1 : Hold 7300 pe with a SL of 60 in system
[09:23] Shai : (09:23) Shai :positional update 2 : book balance in 7600 ce short. close the trade .cmp47
[09:31] Shai : (09:31) Shai :Positional : sell 7400 ce and 7400 pe for a net credit of 230- 238 sl of 279 tgt 175
[09:53] Shai : (09:53) Shai :intra day update : add the second part at 7415 hold both with sl of 7394. tgt remains same.
[10:14] Shai : (10:14) Shai :short BNF 14935- 930 sl of 15007 tgt 14820 : Intra day
[10:28] Shai : (10:28) Shai :book the BNF short here 14905 – 908 .
[11:04] Shai : (11:04) Shai :Intra day : Buy BNF abv 15015 sl of 14955 tgt 15095/ 15140
[12:05] Shai : (12:05) Shai :NF at 7445 book 50% and move TSL to 7419 on bal qty tgt 2 remains same
[12:08] Shai : (12:08) Shai :Positional : Buy BNF abv 15038 for 15200/ 15320 sl of 14885.
[12:43] Shai : (12:43) Shai :Positional : 7300 pe sl taken- exit
[12:45] Shai : (12:44) Shai :Intra day : Book NF fully tgt done 7472
[12:58] Shai : (12:58) Shai :High risk intra day long 7500 ce buy around 91-93 sl of 77 tgt 117- Trade smaller size. cmp is 97
[13:06] Shai : (13:05) Shai :avoid the long 7500 ce buy. let it go.
[13:19] Shai : (13:19) Shai :BNf intra stopped
[13:20] Shai : (13:19) Shai :BNf intra stopped
[13:34] Shai : (13:34) Shai :Intra day : Short Nf below 7443 sl of 7473 tgt 7401. – trade 50% size. sell below only
[13:43] Shai : (13:43) Shai :NF at 7425 book 50% and revise sl to 7444 on balance
[13:45] Shai : (13:44) Shai :BNF positional stopped- exit if you got in
[14:40] Shai : (14:40) Shai :Rebuy 7300 pe at 74 sl of 49 tgt 115: Positional
[14:41] Shai : (14:41) Shai :Hold NF with 7421 trailing SL
(14:41) Shai :can give us 7366
Custom Chat Transcript
Date and Time: February 04, 2016 09:17:57
[09:04] Nandesh : gm shai
[09:10] RK : Tisco might have some swing today due to results
[09:38] Sandesh : Shahi, Veiw on ONGC please
[09:46] Tejpreet : Shai views on SBI for ID .
[09:50] Shai : ongc could be good abv 215 all day but has some supply to overcome at 222. watch for a positioa l close to be abv 211 if bullish
[09:50] Sandesh : thank you
[09:51] Nandesh : levels for sbi
[09:51] Nandesh : can we buy sbi
[09:51] Shai : sbin 168.5- 165.3 is a zone to break for a decisive intra move
[09:51] Sandesh : either side right?
[09:51] Shai : could give 170.8 if abv or down to 163/ 160 if lower range broken
[09:52] Nandesh : thanks
[09:52] RK : Shai below which level you would consider Hero weak?
[09:55] Shai : hero getting weaker below 2501 today but 2455 closing is further conf
[09:56] Tejpreet : Thanks Shai.
[09:57] RK : thanks
[10:02] RK : Shai strength in HCL?
[10:02] RK : again for 880-90 from here?
[10:15] Shai : ys hcl can do 880
[10:16] Shai : good pick – just ready tomove
[10:18] RK : thanks
[10:58] RK : Rm Can I have DR profile for last 3-4 days
[10:58] RK : ?
[10:58] r m : sure RK
[11:01] RK : LT nice move Shai
[11:01] RK : where is Vikkas? 🙂
[11:03] r m : his internet on low volumes hence on slack :S
[11:04] r m : 😀
[11:05] Sandesh : Shai.. veiw on Just Dial pls
[11:08] Gaurav : shai your views on Gail ?
[11:14] r m : @RK, took forever to load and then slack said goodbuy, internetitis needs WHO intervention now 🙂
[11:14] r m : http://screencast.com/t/X2a2nxZPhT
[11:14] RK : lol
[11:14] RK : thanks
[11:16] r m : welcome
[11:16] Tejpreet : Shai positional view on Maruti .
[11:24] Shai : just dial intra day may get resisted at 588 supp at 550- looks RB between them
[11:26] Shai : gail can be a buy abv 355 -50% qty with sl of 350 with new addition done if looking to close abv 362 today/ tom
[11:26] Shai : price is not yet confirming though supp at 350 looks to hold
[11:27] Shai : maruti stillin balance like NF after the fall from 4120
[11:28] Shai : abv 3860 could be a lonf for 3940 with small stop at vah 3840
[11:28] Sandesh : thanks shai
[11:30] Tejpreet : Thanks Shai.
[11:37] RK : Tej I know you are aware of this..still just sharing..whenever a stock makes a quick move kind of drive in IB but stops just at PDH/PDL, worth to go contra with stop few ticks above/below that stoping price..mostly pays..but the criteria is it should have kind of drive and stop there..
[11:39] Tejpreet : Thanks RK valid point . Am looking for some positional put selling in maruti with intention of cash buying but Shai”s 6800 is scaring the shit out of me for selling puts 🙂
[11:41] RK : 6800 will hit us when we are in half dream about 8000 🙂
[11:42] Tejpreet : 😉
[11:44] RK : Is it not bad thing to expect worst is over when a stock trading at 52 wk lows? 🙂
[11:45] RK : Axis and LT trapped many when bottom was called..
[11:45] Ashish : Shai, good volumes in Hindalco today, what’s the upside level tomlook for?
[11:45] Ashish : to look*
[11:48] Shai : hindlaco 71.8 if you hold beyod intra
[11:48] Tejpreet : Yes LT whipped me couple of times…..especially when i thought to turn into a positional trader 😉
[11:48] Shai : sl is 68.6 closing basis today
[11:48] Ashish : thanks Shai
[11:49] Shai : abv 70.2 add up hindlaco for 71.6 with 69.6 tsl for new lots
[11:49] Ashish : Thanks
[11:49] RK : Tej yes anticpatory trades in positional traps in a bad way..
[11:50] Gaurav : shai your views on gail please ? more downside to it ?
[11:52] Uttam : (11:26) Shai :gail can be a buy abv 355 -50% qty with sl of 350 with new addition done if looking to close abv 362 today/ tom(11:26) Shai :price is not yet confirming though supp at 350 looks to hold
[11:54] Uttam : wassup with Cairn Shai, has been down 5% one day then up 5% the next 😉
[11:57] Uttam : more than 7% up today & vols crossing yesterdays already though still below average
[11:58] Sudheer : views on yes bank pls?
[12:01] Gaurav : thanks shai thanks uttam
[12:03] Viral : shai any good supply zone to short, tata steel?
[12:07] Gaurav : Shai Tata Motors still a short for 310 levels positional?
[12:28] RK : DR on furious rounds 🙂
[12:34] Shai : cairn avoid – looks like pulling back to 127.8 sl of 121.8
[12:35] Uttam : thanks Shai
[12:35] Shai : yes bank 764 intra supp – maintain 789 as positional supply zone
[12:36] Shai : tataseteel watch 230 for weakness in price
[12:37] Shai : ttm has turned around and today’s move valid till abv 323. still see supply at 332 but once crossed is a long for 343 on shortcovering
[12:39] Shai : dr abv 3045 again can create a spike up to 3130 – valid abv 3025 close today
[12:40] RK : yes yes waiting 🙂
[12:52] Karthik : Shai any unfinished business for Yes Bank above or downtrend has started? can aim for 740 and below?
[12:59] Gaurav : Shai Siemens heading for 1100+?
[13:01] Shai : yes bank 744/ 716 but sl is still abv 789 ony
[13:01] Shai : yes siemens looks strong
[13:01] Shai : 1100 it is
[13:02] Gaurav : Thanks Sl for Seimens?
[13:03] Karthik : thanks Shai
[13:06] Hari : @shai, you level on Asian paints pls
[13:13] Rahul N : @shai i have sbi and icici bank short ,what are the levels ?
[13:16] Shai : asian done the easy move to 890 – now res at 900 – supp still 881
[13:17] Shai : sbin has been weak but cash has good supp at 160- can trail shorts till close is not abv 168.3 cash
[13:19] Rahul N : tnx
[13:19] Shai : icici ht 1 supp at 201 for the move below 222 . 213 is now res but 199 may hold for next few sessions- again cash levels
[13:26] RK : Yeeek..what was that in Hero?
[13:41] Gaurav : Supp price for Siemens Shai?
[13:52] Ashish : 45525 reds @ bottom
[13:53] Ashish : Oops
[13:56] Shai : siemens 1036 closing baisis- exit 3.20 if looking to close below it
[14:10] Gaurav : Thanks Shai
[14:54] Gaurav : Shai Tamo long structure broken with this crack? Went below 323
[14:59] Nandesh : i hv sbin ling @182. can i hold or exit at this time?
[14:59] Nandesh : long
[15:07] Shai : gaurav stocks are positional – don’t bother abt intra day ticks- can watch a 5 min or 15 min candle clsoing below levels
[15:07] Shai : if below 323 by close is weak
[15:07] Gaurav : Oh ok. Was confused thought would clarify. Thanks Shai
[15:08] Shai : sbin had given 160.2 as tgt below 165
[15:08] Shai : now positionals need to close if below 160 tom close being friday close
[15:24] Hari : Some big buying happening in JUBLFOOD in case before results on Feb 11th
[15:24] Tejpreet : Sbi coming well off the lows !
[15:27] Shai : bajaj did not break 2390 even today 🙂
[15:28] Shai : yes bank 789 rock solid also
[15:29] Shai : compiling a list of stocks which obey completely 🙂 . We want to make them work for us in the days to come
[15:29] Uttam : super Shai
[15:36] Karthik : That would be awesome Shai
General Chat Transcript
Date and Time: February 04, 2016 09:17:57
[08:48] r m : Good Morning folks!
[08:49] r m : http://vtrender.com/evening-report-trade-dated-03rd-feb/
[08:49] Deepak : GM rm
[08:49] r m : http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-and-notes-030216/
[08:49] r m : Hi Deepak
[08:49] r m : Nifty FEB Future levels | KRA 7444 | Hypo1 above 7401➜7421➜7471 SL 7380 | Hypo2 below 7362➜7342➜7319 SL 7406
[08:49] r m : Banknifty FEB Future levels | KRA 15174 | Hypo1 above 14979➜15045➜15154 SL 14870 | Hypo2 below 14830➜14765➜14655 SL 14935
[08:55] r m : Results today – Arvind, Bajaj Auto, Tatasteel
[08:56] r m : Results tomorrow – Bosch, Cadilahc, Divislab, Eichermotors, Lupin, PTC, Tatapower
[08:58] Vikkas : Gdmrng all
[08:58] Vikkas : Hi Rm & Shai
[08:59] r m : Hi Vikkas
[08:59] SandeepK : GM All !
[08:59] Jitender : Gm Shai, Rm, folks:)
[09:00] John : Good morning Shai, Rm and all 🙂
[09:04] Shai : GM all
[09:04] Ashish : GM all
[09:06] Suresh : GM all
[09:07] r m : Hi Jitender, John 🙂
[09:07] Deepak : GM Shai
[09:07] RK : Gm Shai,RM and all
[09:07] r m : Hi RK, early bird today 🙂
[09:08] RK : Son getting late for school 🙂
[09:08] r m : ok 🙂
[09:08] Tejpreet : GM All.
[09:09] RK : Shai, spike rules would be more efficient only on next day or can look for those levels even on the consequent days if next day didnt go til spike low..
[09:11] r m : Declining volumes were 95% yesterday but looks like the impact will be over at open 🙂
[09:11] Vikkas : lol rm
[09:11] Venkatesan : gm shai rm nd to all
[09:12] Shai : spike rules won’t apply today but the spike high/lows still have impact
[09:12] DrBansal null : sh
[09:12] r m : Hi Venkatesan
[09:13] DrBansal null : shai,update on put after market opens.
[09:13] RK : Yes that’s what wanted to know…so dont need to have a expectation that above 7448 we get 7542..thanks
[09:13] Sandesh : GM SHAI
[09:13] Sandesh : GM RM
[09:14] r m : Hi Sandesh
[09:15] DrBansal null : shai,update 7300 put
[09:17] Vipul : GM all
[09:17] Arvind : GM all
[09:18] Varun : shai delta in 30 mins will hide figures
[09:20] Shanmugasubramanian : GM all
[09:20] Shai : Intra day : Buy NF in 2 parts 7432 and at 7420 sl of 7399 tgt 7472/ 7496
[09:21] Varun : thnks
[09:22] Shai : positional update 1 : Hold 7300 pe with a SL of 60 in system
[09:23] Shai : positional update 2 : book balance in 7600 ce short. close the trade .cmp47
[09:23] Janak : which means 7472/7496 can be a good reentry for pos shorts shai for tomorrow’s close?
[09:25] Tejpreet : Shai bn buy level for hypo 1 ok or wait.
[09:30] Shai : moving the capital of 7600 ce to a 7400 straddle
[09:31] Shai : Positional : sell 7400 ce and 7400 pe for a net credit of 230- 238 sl of 279 tgt 175
[09:31] Jitender : +1
[09:33] Shai : see this ranged 7360- 7510 forseveral sessions now and we will utilsise it to write a straddle
[09:34] DrBansal null : shai,if sell pe and sell ce,then what to do with 7300 put buy hold or exit?
[09:35] Shai : https://vtrender.slack.com/files/shai/F0L8GG22E/mp_option_straddle.png
[09:35] Varun : shai any diff between 30 min /full day delta pnae
[09:35] Varun : or just for ease to see
[09:35] Varun : or 30 min purely for tht candle
[09:36] Janak : wont bnf/nf go for gap fill?
[09:36] Shai : Dr hold for now – if we get a leg lower we will come out else enter sl
[09:36] Shai : Varun yes volumes entered are different for both as conditions
[09:39] Rahul P : Hi shai, can NF yestdy profile be considered as island excess ?
[09:42] Sachin : hi Shai, unable to see the screen, it says “No Screen sharing at this time”. Has the trading room not started yet!!
[09:44] Sandeep : sachin, it was there till now….just gone now
[09:45] Shai : test
[09:45] Sandeep : success
[09:46] Shai : gone intra day bullish a bit as yesterday neutral extreme was rejected unlike yesterday open and we are abv vah/ poc at this open
[09:46] Shai : there is still no conviction on intra till we cross abv 7449 tuesday lows
[09:47] Shai : going with a 50% position here and balance on a pullback with stops below neutral day vwap
[09:48] Sandeep : +1
[09:48] SandeepK : shai Nifty 5 mins OF not visible getting overriddent by figures in the left
[09:48] Shai : still an open auction at the top of yesterday range
[09:48] SandeepK : *overridden
[09:48] Jigs : BNF too
[09:49] SandeepK : thank you
[09:53] Shai : intra day update : add the second part at 7415 hold both with sl of 7394. tgt remains same.
[09:54] Sandesh : Yesterday we missed out Shai.. Today must be THE BANG BANG!
[09:54] Sandesh : 🙂
[09:55] Uttam : Shai, for 7400 PE can put SL in system as 93?
[09:57] Shai : yes 93 is good but do on 10 mins closing basis
[09:57] Uttam : yes Shai, thanks 🙂
[09:58] Tejpreet : Shai BN views after this open .
[10:00] Shai : BNF weakening here – can do 14910 sl abv 15010 yday high
[10:01] Tejpreet : Thanks Shai.
[10:03] Uttam : Shai 80% on in BNF?
[10:12] Shai : yes
[10:12] Uttam : lot of reds in NF now?
[10:12] Uttam : on the 30 min bar
[10:13] Uttam : sellers are persistaing today inspite of the gap up?
[10:13] Uttam : persisting*
[10:14] Shai : short BNF 14935- 930 sl of 15007 tgt 14820 : Intra day
[10:19] Shai : we find ourselves intra day on opp ends in NF and BNF – but just trading the tape for what it is
[10:20] Shai : we are having a tain in BNF at the end of IB near the open and the NF needs to be viewed in context of where it closed yesterday
[10:20] Shai : tail*
[10:23] Uttam : finally a bug buyer in NF
[10:23] Uttam : big
[10:28] Shai : book the BNF short here 14905 – 908 .
[10:29] Shai : NF second part in – sl in system at 7395
[10:29] Sandip : continuous green deltas in bnf for 5 mins on screen
[10:30] Shai : Not getting the imabalcne today
[10:30] Shai : looks like a ranged move in balance again in NF
[10:30] Rahul P : shai, not looking at 80 % rule on Nf ?
[10:31] Shai : possibel rahul
[10:31] Sandip : Shai sometimes the 80% rules goes till YPOC only and reverses right?
[10:32] Uttam : we have a small VA yesterday so most of the times it does get thru
[10:32] Tejpreet : Shai for 80 % rule if the current open is closer to previous value chances of success are higher .
[10:36] Shai : yes 80% rule works best in balance
[10:39] Varun : who sells at vwap sd3
[10:39] RK : 🙂
[10:40] Uttam : 44k seller stuck?
[10:40] RK : the one who helps you to take or exist posn
[10:40] RK : he had done that with BNF too
[10:40] Varun : i need a big monitor to see such things in bnf 😉
[10:41] Varun : someone sponsor me
[10:41] RK : If I can have mic, I will shout 🙂
[10:41] Sandip : uttam im checking the data…. the 44 k guy is someone profit booking from yesterdays lows
[10:42] Uttam : greens piling up on the 30 min
[10:42] Uttam : delta also going positive for first time today & NF back above YVAH
[10:43] Uttam : IBL broken in an inauspicious time (as per Kris)
[10:57] Varun : shais stop saved by the warrior 😉
[10:57] Varun : at vwp sd3
[10:57] r m : @Uttam, in rahukalam? 🙂
[10:57] r m : @Varun, identity of the warrior please? 😀
[10:57] Uttam : yep @RM 😉
[10:57] Shai : tricky it was indeed
[10:57] Shai : yvwap
[10:57] Uttam : yes Shai saved by 2 points
[10:57] Varun : he went alone with 44000 qty
[10:57] Shai : I liked the exit in BNF also
[10:57] Varun : lol
[10:58] Varun : @rm
[10:58] Deepak : a test of day high on NF possible now ?
[10:58] RK : I liked the exit of posnl as well as today’s intra on dot 14900 🙂
[10:58] Shai : let’s take it to 7448/ 7472 now
[10:59] Varun : rk see bnf porfile
[10:59] Varun : its like opposite of 7592on rbi day
[10:59] Varun : frm whr it rejected
[10:59] Shai : BNf potential FA
[11:00] Varun : 80 % done twice
[11:00] RK : yes
[11:00] Varun : in bnf
[11:04] Shai : Intra day : Buy BNF abv 15015 sl of 14955 tgt 15095/ 15140
[11:05] Tejpreet : Shai has the font been changed …having difficulty in reading data on full screen mode on my monitor
[11:06] Shai : no changes done
[11:07] Sushovan : Shai 7300 PE still hold right ?
[11:08] Shai : Yes
[11:08] Shai : positionals no change in view
[11:08] Tejpreet : Thanks Shai … maybe need to grt my eye tested too much screen time 🙂
[11:09] Shai : slighty skewed bulishly for intra- but price is not confirming any major change in trend yet
[11:09] Varun : shai shift the poc down
[11:09] Varun : trnd will start one way
[11:16] Uttam : but POC shifting down means bearish na Varun?
[11:16] Varun : yes trend is down
[11:16] Varun : we have 100 point sinfles abv
[11:17] Jitender : upto Shai’s lvl of 7513
[11:17] Uttam : oh ok so you mean we could go with the existing trend once poc comes down
[11:18] Uttam : but we do have a tail @ lows today in both NF & BNF
[11:19] Uttam : and the singles you are talkling about is day before’s spike? 7544-7448?
[11:21] RK : Yes he is referring the same
[11:22] RK : to put it together, intra bullish as POC defended with tail..positional weak till singles taken out completely..
[11:23] Uttam : but RK once we enter the singles we could go all the way?
[11:27] RK : Uttam that depends on the context of singles as far as I understood..since this singles is from spike, it dont need be full of initiative..Shai can advise importance of this singles compared to excess or tail at top at open..
[11:28] John : @RK, is there any significance between tail created outside value and inside value?
[11:28] Shai : BNF looks good but conf is not till we go abv normal day high of 15010- hence buy abv only
[11:28] Uttam : yes I also was thinking on the same lines that as this is a spike we can just have the start & end as resistance but not necessary that it will go to the other end once got into
[11:30] RK : John tail outside value has more significance as it shows more conviction right?..esp if that sends back price into VA..
[11:31] RK : and John I fairly think you are far better in reading MP than me 🙂
[11:31] RK : and even Uttam 🙂
[11:31] John : ya, but few days back somewhere saw u asking about this, but missed the follow through. so was clarifying
[11:31] John : 🙂
[11:32] John : @RK lol 🙂
[11:36] Uttam : hey RK I am just learning & you have seen it all 🙂
[11:40] Shai : excess/ tails have to be away from the range not value of the past few sessions as a reversal sign- the bigger the btter the reversal
[11:41] John : Thanks Shai !
[11:41] Uttam : thanks Shai
[11:45] Uttam : BNF 30 mins has all green delta today Shai?
[11:46] Uttam : and in NF its opposite?
[11:47] Uttam : feel like we gonna get a short squeeze in NF
[11:49] Sandip : uttam short squuze means we go up right to hit shorts ka stoplosses?
[11:51] Uttam : yep
[12:02] Jitender : gap filled
[12:03] Vikkas : im back 😀
[12:03] Shanmugasubramanian : 140025 shorter SL hit ??
[12:04] Sandip : more like he short covered in loss 🙂
[12:05] Shai : NF at 7445 book 50% and move TSL to 7419 on bal qty tgt 2 remains same
[12:06] Shai : BNf not yet active
[12:07] RK : Shan yes looks like (pardon me for shortening your name)
[12:08] Shai : Positional : Buy BNF abv 15038 for 15200/ 15320 sl of 14885.
[12:09] Shai : or could have been limit buy orders Shan in NF of the buy abv kind
[12:11] Shanmugasubramanian : tnx shai
[12:13] Sandip : RM why 15200 as target in BNf? what is the significance of that level?
[12:16] Shanmugasubramanian : no issues RK
[12:16] Shanmugasubramanian : U can call me like that
[12:21] Shai : 15240 is where the sell volumes were day before – we are not risking the last of theose 40 but keeing it safe at 15200
[12:21] Shai : there is some selling at 14980- 15010 past 2 days and if they cover ride up will come
[12:22] Sandip : ok thx shai 🙂
[12:23] Tejpreet : BN looks like locals buying lows and selling in the zone 980-020 …need OTF push for it to move out .
[12:26] Hari : NF heading back to vwap
[12:31] r m : (*** Private to Sandip ) @Sandip, trading levels area all shai’s, you can ask me simple things like what is that yellow line? etc. 🙂
[12:43] Shai : Positional : 7300 pe sl taken- exit
[12:43] Jitender : wo…sl’s triggered
[12:43] r m : 7475
[12:43] Jitender : approx 4 lac red in 5 min
[12:44] Sandip : ok i sold on top
[12:44] Sandip : too many reds
[12:44] Shai : Intra day : Book NF fully tgt done
[12:45] Jigs : BNF positional in?
[12:45] Sandesh : THE BETTER TOMORROW KISSED US SHAI!
[12:45] Sandesh : 🙂
[12:46] Shai : BNF in
[12:46] Jigs : ok
[12:46] Shai : Sandesh cheers 🙂
[12:46] Sandesh : 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 QTY WAS 3 TIMES TODAY! THANK YOU
[12:47] Shai : could have stayed for 7496 is it had not spiked and done a wrb
[12:47] Jigs : what was SL? positional BNF
[12:47] Uttam : 15885
[12:48] Porus : 14885
[12:48] Uttam : sorry 🙁
[12:48] Ashish : Shai, what will be the TSL for nifty longs?
[12:48] Porus : follow the leader 🙂
[12:49] Tejpreet : Shai positional BN triggered or wait.
[12:49] Shai : 7443 TSL in NF if holding
[12:49] Shai : Mine got triggered BNF – but if not in add abv 14038 only
[12:50] Shai : 15038
[12:50] Ashish : Thanks
[12:50] Tejpreet : ok i did not put insystem and when you gave nifty exit waited to ask you 🙂
[12:50] RK : mine got triggered first time itself and then dipped to 50 and had to take another one 🙂
[12:51] RK : I meant intra one
[12:51] Tejpreet : So al big bulls in might as well get in 😉
[12:53] r m : lol
[12:54] Uttam : RK even mine got triggered the intra one @ 15018 although on chart price was not seen till then
[12:54] r m : @RK, like the flash player who doubles every bid of an opponent 🙂
[12:54] RK : Uttam only two of our small orders triggered so charts skipped them 🙂
[12:54] Tejpreet : haha RM .
[12:54] Ashish : Shai, 7500 anamoly could be the target now
[12:54] RK : RM :))
[12:56] Sandip : Shai how come we have the wbr so high….I mean if you add the numbers in red are far greater than the numbers in green right?
[12:58] Shai : High risk intra day long 7500 ce at buy around 91-93 sl of 77 tgt 117- Trade smaller size
[12:59] Shai : cmp 97 – not buying here
[13:03] Sameer null : hi
[13:04] Uttam : ha ha looks like RK 😉
[13:05] Shai : avoid the long 7500 ce buy
[13:14] Varun : shai vol profile shows poc
[13:14] Varun : down
[13:14] Varun : but 5 min has it shifted up
[13:19] Shai : BNf intra stopped
[13:21] Shai : yes but 7430 is marginally higher still dpoc
[13:22] Shai : No intra trades open now
[13:22] Shai : responsive selling is huge 7470- 78
[13:22] RK : I really dont know how you keep tally of all trades Shai 🙂
[13:23] Shai : haha with a cup of coffee and a headache some times 🙂
[13:23] RK : I have started trading in two accounts and really going nuts here..but you are amazing
[13:24] Jitender : @Rk…sep pos & intra
[13:24] Jitender : n for pos keep alert on
[13:24] RK : you won’t believe sometimes I throw the keyboard and just walk away instead of placing SL or targets 🙂
[13:24] Jitender : from my exp
[13:24] Shai : yes
[13:24] Sandip : So now we know RK is that guy hitting everybodys stopplosses!!!! buying from one account and selling from another!!!:)
[13:24] Shai : 🙂 RK
[13:24] r m : 🙂
[13:25] Shai : NF still good till abv 7444 roughly but if sellers add can drop to 7400 quickly
[13:25] RK : Jitender I do all stocks with one and just index and options with another..intra is like trading positional..so no confusion in that..but problem in keep tallying and making entry and exits 🙂
[13:26] Jitender : hmmm
[13:26] RK : doing some experiments..might shift later to intra one and positional another if existing setup wont help
[13:26] RK : Sandip 🙂
[13:26] Tejpreet : Shai can punch in a sell order below 40 in NF .
[13:26] Jitender : i do stocks only intra…writing options is my achilies heel
[13:26] Shai : yes can
[13:27] Tejpreet : Thanks.
[13:27] Jitender : & i hv learned the hard way is tat work on return tgts with very few instruments
[13:28] Jitender : else….evrythn goes fr a toss esp time & peace of mind
[13:29] Jitender : i can’t be Shai/ Rm…so best follow tem:)
[13:30] RK : 🙂
[13:31] r m : don’t be rm at least 🙂
[13:32] Jitender : wat i can’t…don’t plan to b:)
[13:32] Jitender : bee
[13:32] r m : @Jitender, RK sits peacefully like a monk with 20 odd stocks and 2 indices with various options flying around like missiles 🙂
[13:33] Jitender : haha
[13:33] John : 🙂
[13:33] Jitender : the monk who bought ferrari:)
[13:33] r m : lol
[13:33] RK : the monk whose trouser ripped everyday and langode is given 🙂
[13:33] r m : lol
[13:33] Sandip : lol
[13:33] Jitender : lol
[13:34] r m : now i understand the reason behind simplicity of monk’s clothes 🙂
[13:34] Shai : Intra day : Short Nf below 7443 sl of 7473 tgt 7401. – trade 50% size. sell below only
[13:34] Jitender : 🙂
[13:34] RK : 🙂
[13:35] Janak : shai safe to accumulate 7400pe?
[13:36] Janak : in any case we have a swing below 7400 before friday end?
[13:39] Uttam : reds in NF
[13:39] Janak : shai’s short active
[13:39] Janak : tgt 7401
[13:40] Uttam : yep
[13:40] Janak : shai u r a rockstar
[13:40] Janak : i am awarding u 5 cr from rm’s account ;;
[13:41] Shanmugasubramanian : frm RMs a/c. ??
[13:41] DrBansal : today all trades runnig losses.
[13:42] Janak : why DrBansal?
[13:42] Jitender : 2 wrb’s both sells
[13:42] r m : @Janak, no issues man, anything above a couple of thousands you are free to withdraw 🙂
[13:42] Janak : just now shai’s call at 7443 gave already 15-20 pts
[13:43] Shai : NF at 7425 book 50% and revise sl to 7444 on balance
[13:43] Janak : and if u a r large-trend follower – no matter what u short till 7550 and accumulate
[13:43] Ashish : BNF positional coming close to SL..
[13:43] Jigs : oh sl
[13:43] Uttam : BNF pos SL gone too
[13:44] Ashish : buyers in BNF here
[13:44] Shai : BNF positional stopped- exit if you got in
[13:45] Uttam : yep
[13:45] Janak : rm 🙂
[13:45] Shai : bad entry in BNF
[13:46] Jigs : entry at top ;(
[13:46] Jigs : and SL
[13:46] Jigs : 14886.4
[13:51] Uttam : but timely entry in NF short
[13:52] Uttam : couldnot have been able to enter if had not placed in system
[13:52] Janak : after eu – blindly sell these days – as it always falls 50-100
[13:52] Arvind : hypo in Bn triggered
[13:53] Arvind : Hypo in BN triggered
[13:56] Varun : bnf does a third 8 0 %
[13:56] Varun : lol
[13:58] Shai : yes
[13:58] Shai : that failed BNF trade spoiling MTM on an otherwise perfect day
[13:58] Uttam : now let NF do a 80% again 😉
[13:58] Hari : Yeah, shai
[13:59] Varun : its nt even done one 80 5
[13:59] Ashish : Shai, BNF fall has green delta and now a spike also.
[13:59] Uttam : not again for the first time today
[13:59] RK : Shai that’s fine..am glad that we are closing in 14777 🙂
[13:59] Janak : all and all it is a sell at any point if u can add till end for 7300 again?
[13:59] Varun : only came in till poc
[13:59] RK : better we not hit that before 2.30
[13:59] Shai : yes the greens were there and hence we stayed in BNF
[13:59] Shai : but look at NF at the top
[13:59] Shai : sellers poncing all over
[14:00] Deepak null : we are trading like Chinese:)
[14:00] Ashish : Yes Shai..
[14:00] Shai : yes RK- trigger was abv normal day high in BNF and was looking for a trend up with vwap holding up the dip if any
[14:01] Shai : but BNF broke vwap itself 🙁
[14:01] Uttam : we have another 45k seller @ low in NF 30 mins
[14:04] Ashish : Shai, BNF is developing a 3-1-3
[14:05] Shai : hmm yes
[14:06] Ashish : NF above VWAP
[14:06] Hari : @shai, can we add the rest 50% NF shorts here
[14:06] Shai : Exit balance in NF shorts abv 7444
[14:07] Shai : No avoid Hari
[14:07] Ashish : got 70 points in BNF 🙂
[14:08] Shai : nice
[14:08] Tejpreet : whacked BN back 830 to 920 .
[14:08] Ashish : cool Tej
[14:09] Tejpreet : Thanks ….bn can de more if above vwap.
[14:09] Sandesh : shai.. can take BNF long here?
[14:09] Ashish : USDINR @ day’s llow
[14:10] Ashish : was expecting it to go during Nifty spike, got delayed
[14:10] Shai : I’m in travel moe tomorrow guys and will be away from the room tom. RM will be here and charts will run as usual
[14:10] Sandip : shai bnf a buy now?
[14:10] Uttam : oh Friday dhamaal you will miss Shai 😉
[14:11] Jitender : cool
[14:11] Shai : Sandesh may get resisted at vwap 14956 but 14800 is a good sl – try a bit lower
[14:11] Uttam : so if 14800 goes, it will be a big sell in BNF Shai?
[14:12] Sandesh : Perfect Shai.. shall wait!
[14:12] Shai : yes
[14:12] RK : Shai can we say NF is b today?
[14:12] Deepak null : Great Shai…even i will be traveling…. good to know that i won’t miss anything
[14:14] Shanmugasubramanian : SL hunting day
[14:16] Janak : ideally we shd move below 7400 before 3.30 pm keeping the methods bears use daily
[14:16] RK : 7444 spike ref as well as that day intra pullback high.move above may spike up again
[14:17] RK : 7442-48
[14:17] Janak : mkt always hits day lows again and goes 20 below that these days so 7397 and then 7377?
[14:18] Janak : if that does not happen today then rm and bhagya and bull-shai have got the mkts in their hands from today till tom afternoon ;
[14:19] Janak : tom afternoon – it will a bear calling shots – u know who 🙂
[14:21] r m : lol
[14:22] Shai : Positional open : 7400 straddle
[14:22] Shai : We are working on theta there and this market is good enough to get that staddle to 175
[14:23] Janak : ok a small quiz for all – read this again and say if u notice something (this will help all of u in future trades) – Shai : (13:34) Shai :Intra day : Short Nf below 7443 sl of 7473 tgt 7401. – trade 50% size. sell below only
[14:23] Janak : what did u notice here?
[14:24] Sandip : the short was below wbr low and shais kra level?
[14:25] Janak : yes technically yes sandip – but purely from trader’s pov?
[14:25] Sandip : prifitable trade 🙂
[14:25] Uttam : r:r is good?
[14:25] Janak : ok let me tell all of u – it went from 7443 to 7410 and then the bounce did go back exactly to 7443! not an inch more – and fell again 20
[14:25] Janak : so if u were sharp u wud have got 50 from that trade by now
[14:26] Ashish : brilliant janak
[14:26] Janak : that is shai-the-bear for u all
[14:27] Janak : and yet again if it comes back to 7443 – sell with an sl of 10 – which now u can afford having gained a few
[14:27] Jitender : grt Janak
[14:28] Janak : 🙂 i pass on the tnnx to genius shai (while keeping the money gained;) 🙂
[14:28] r m : @Janak, glad that your business is not dairy farming else you will have milched cows 4 times a day 🙂
[14:29] Jitender : lol
[14:29] Viral : LOL
[14:29] Janak : ha ha ha
[14:29] Jitender : & blamed Shai for it:)
[14:30] Ashish : LOL
[14:30] Vikkas : woah rm ..good 1 ..haha
[14:31] Janak : i wud prefer shai-the-bear any day than bull
[14:31] r m : 😀
[14:31] RK : bulls! that’s it!?
[14:32] Janak : shai 7300pe rocking!
[14:32] Janak : went to 54 and now 74
[14:32] Uttam : you holding it still Janak or bought it lower?
[14:32] Uttam : Shai we can still get to 7401 today?
[14:33] Uttam : come on NF lets do one 80% at least, BNF has got 3
[14:34] Vikkas : halwa hai kya @uttam :p
[14:34] Uttam : 3-0 bnf is leading, kuch to karna chahiye NF ko
[14:35] Vikkas : aaj nahi toh kal karega sirjee 🙂
[14:35] Janak : Uttam – i just accumulate
[14:35] Janak : till the larger trend changes
[14:37] Uttam : nice Janak
[14:37] Janak : today shd close below 7400 to confirm a mega-sell-off tom
[14:39] Janak : shai what was ur original tgt for 7300pe?
[14:39] r m : NF is like chokers na!
[14:39] Uttam : 148 is tgt for 7300 pe
[14:39] Janak : ok so that will come
[14:40] RK : mostly vwap close today
[14:40] Shai : Rebuy 7300 pe at 74 sl of 49 tgt 115: Positional
[14:41] Shai : Hold NF with 7421 trailing SL
[14:41] Shai : can give us 7366
[14:42] Uttam : thanks Shai
[14:42] Janak : good call shai – pl give atleast one bear-call daily 🙂
[14:43] Janak : ye rm ki demand hei and we are all with him ;;
[14:44] Janak : 7401!
[14:44] Uttam : yeah NF did one 80%
[14:44] Uttam : 🙂
[14:45] Janak : bole to kya trade beedu 🙂
[14:45] r m : Janak bhaiyya ki jai ho 🙂
[14:46] Janak : 7443 to 7390 – kalti marela hei bhai rm – shai-boss ekdum zhakkas ::
[14:48] Janak : (14:17) Janak :mkt always hits day lows again and goes 20 below that these days so 7397 and then 7377?
[14:48] Uttam : yesterday;’s low not far away now
[14:48] Uttam : 14800 in BNF
[14:48] Shai : nce Janak
[14:49] Varun : 100 point singles show thy mite
[14:49] Varun : lol
[14:49] Varun : might
[14:49] Porus : shai, what is tgt for bnf short?
[14:49] Shai : another neutral day
[14:49] Uttam : super Varun
[14:49] Uttam : shorts can be carried Shai?
[14:49] Janak : it was at 7435 then and coinciding with shai’s call too
[14:49] Shai : no we will book
[14:49] Uttam : greens coming now?
[14:49] Shai : Take that PE Uttam
[14:50] Uttam : took now @ 88 Shai as was already holding one NF short from 7442
[14:51] Janak : vow
[14:51] Janak : Uttam – that is uttam! ati……:-)
[14:51] Shai : trail NF to 7402
[14:52] Uttam : thanks Janak, reversed the BNF pos loss 😉
[14:52] Uttam : also the time sell order in system helped
[14:52] Tejpreet : Shai vix not jumping up much in this fall ahs been below 19 , any inference .
[14:53] Shai : Porus Higher risk here =- take below 14750 spot only
[14:54] RK : someone thrown me out of the room
[14:55] RK : while trying to relogin it was saying “that company does not exist” 🙂
[14:55] Tejpreet : Maybe they thought you are the algo ;0
[14:55] r m : must have been done by bulls in frustration 🙂
[14:55] Uttam : welcome back RK…
[14:55] Vikkas : it happens many a times in the mrng with me rk
[14:55] Venkatesan : HAHAH RK
[14:57] Venkatesan : RK mo -41
[14:57] RK : fine
[14:57] Venkatesan : posting before u ask
[14:57] RK : 🙂
[14:59] Jitender : today & ystrday’s low same…till now
[14:59] Jitender : nf
[14:59] Shai : this is a neutral extreme
[15:00] Shai : should break that
[15:00] Jitender : k
[15:00] Shai : greens
[15:00] Shai : exit balance NF
[15:00] Sachin : @shai, yesterdays low was a weak low, right?
[15:01] Uttam : yep exited Shai
[15:01] Sachin : @shai, which is still not taken out !
[15:01] Uttam : close @ VWAP now Shai?
[15:02] Janak : good move to reenter shorts?
[15:02] Shai : Tejpeet vix working a range 17- 19
[15:02] Shai : Yes Sachin
[15:03] Shai : Janak sl is higher at 7430
[15:03] Shai : I’m out
[15:03] Uttam : me too but holding the PE
[15:04] Janak : yeah shai – btw – pharma stocks carry some major negative news and a heavy sell-off on crds
[15:04] Tejpreet : Thanks Shai.
[15:04] Janak : mkt-talk
[15:07] Jitender : int rate decision & sum qe stuff in uk 2day
[15:07] Jitender : i think
[15:12] Shai : ok thanks
[15:12] Shai : from neutral extreme dragged back to vwap close
[15:12] Jitender : wc ji
[15:14] RK : was not comfortable with the fall as no breadth..many stocks didnt align with the fall..but this is better close if we wanna take this below 7240
[15:14] Jitender : Shai..short usdinr for carry
[15:15] Hari : @shai, how long you expect this rangebound movement
[15:16] Shai : No jitender 67.87 obj for the move below 68.33 is here – now fresh view needed at open tom if below 67.85 then 67.44
[15:16] Jitender : k…tx
[15:16] Shai : ok RK
[15:17] Hari : @shai, how long you expect this rangebound movement to stay
[15:17] Shai : Hari back to back neutral days mean balance over a larger zone
[15:17] Shai : roughly 7360- 7520 zone over most of next week also
[15:17] Viral : shai any chance the old low in bnf being repaired?
[15:18] Shai : keep the straddle 7400 – is a good trade for this mkt
[15:18] Shai : Viral I think we are at Jan lows onl still
[15:18] Shai : yes watching 14750 for new selling
[15:20] Viral : alright thanks
[15:21] Shai : really big orderflow in NF at the extremes today
[15:21] Shai : looks like an all out war between institutions 🙂
[15:21] RK : to crush us 🙂
[15:22] Jitender : Dii hav sold close to 1000cr last 5-6 sessions
[15:22] Shai : yes pains me to undertand that
[15:22] Shai : they bought 7500- 8200 everything
[15:22] Shai : why sell now?
[15:23] Jitender : yup..tat 2 in budget month
[15:23] RK : its like payout to run the office?
[15:23] Jitender : ftse does a 100% V shape
[15:23] RK : as they shown more enthu to buy consistently must be out of cash
[15:23] Vikkas : shai fresh trade of 7300pe advisable here or avoid
[15:23] Shai : Vikas taken
[15:24] Vikkas : oops ..ok
[15:24] Vikkas : ill buy now
[15:24] Vikkas : thanx
[15:25] Shai : wish you the best tom guys and please don’t trouble RM too much 🙂
[15:25] Shai : be back in room on monday
[15:25] Sandip : bye shai..Happy extended weekend 🙂
[15:25] Venkatesan : lol
[15:25] John : Bye Shai 🙂
[15:25] Uttam : have a nice trip Shai
[15:25] RK : bye have a safe road and we will take care of RM 🙂
[15:25] Venkatesan : bye shai
[15:25] Viral : bye shai
[15:25] Ashish : Bye Bye Shai
[15:25] Shai : thanks guys
[15:25] Viral : have a nice trip
[15:26] Jitender : bye..tc
[15:26] Janak : any events today like FED?
[15:26] Janak : this looked like a sell from 7470 to 7380 and then cover shorts or book profits
[15:27] Tejpreet : BOE meet today.
[15:28] r m : @Janak, you want FED to have a daily policy meeting? 🙁
[15:28] Jitender : lol
[15:29] Venkatesan : lol
[15:29] Uttam : then we should all trade just VIX
[15:29] r m : US Jobless claims data today
[15:29] John : lol
[15:30] Shai : Bye all
[15:30] Shai : have a nice evening
[15:30] Venkatesan : bye and thank you all
[15:30] r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great evening 🙂
[15:30] Jitender : bye all
[15:30] Uttam : Thanks All & have a good evening 🙂
[15:30] John : Bye all
[15:30] Ashish : Thyanks and Bye all
[15:30] Suresh : bye all
[15:30] Sandesh : Bye Shai, thank you, happy weekend!
[15:30] Vipul : bye all
[15:31] Tejpreet : Bye All.
[15:31] Porus : bye all
[15:41] Sachin : thank you all, bye.