General Chat Transcript
Date and Time: February 05, 2015 09:19:03
[08:49] r m : Good Morning folks!
[08:49] r m : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-5th-feb/
[08:50] r m : http://vtrender.com/premium/orderflow-charts-and-notes-040215/
[08:50] Porus : GM all
[08:50] r m : NF KRA 8815 Hypo1 below 8815➜8755➜8685 SL 8851 Hypo2 above 8851➜8895➜8925 SL 8815 FEB Future levels
[08:50] r m : BNF KRA 19320 Hypo1 above 19320➜19416➜19478 SL 19265 Hypo2 below 19240➜19006➜18860 SL 19320 FEB Future levels
[08:51] r m : SGX Nifty trading flat
[08:53] r m : Results today – Tata Motors, PTC India, HEG,Vardhman Textiles, Gulf Oil, Greaves Cotton,AIA Engineering, Petronet LNG, Apcotex, IRB
[08:54] r m : Results tomorrow – Tata Steel, GAIL, Dena Bank, NMDC, Mah Seamless, SUN TV
[08:57] Shai : GM all
[09:03] Sharad : GM all
[09:08] Tejpreet : GM all.
[09:08] RK : GM Shai,Rm and all
[09:09] r m : Hi RK
[09:13] Shai : trading this morning the spike zone of yesterday
[09:13] Shai : If BNF continues down below spike lows the tgt is 18860 by tom/ mon
[09:13] Shai : 8685 in NF
[09:14] RK : repairing all anamolies if we bread PDL
[09:14] RK : *break
[09:14] Shai : yes
[09:14] Shai : below 8700 spot the big supp is at 8624 prev high
[09:16] Shai : open is at spike lows
[09:17] Shai : shorter time frame (day) v/s longer time frame again today
[09:17] Shai : longer time frame will look to secure 8624- 8700 spot levels
[09:20] Shai : 19320 res in BNF
[09:20] Shai : buyers are not in control till we trade below 19320 intra
[09:21] Amit J : intraday wockpharma buy
[09:21] Shai : yes was good yesterday and stood out in fno with heavy longs
[09:22] Shai : 1348 obj in wock
[09:24] Amit J : short uco
[09:24] Shai : first touch of val in BNF
[09:25] Shai : BNF spike is from 13416
[09:39] Amit J : sl in wock. poor trade at open
[09:41] Rav : WOCK is counter trend trade and hence sl triggered
[09:42] Shai : 1250 and 1230 supp
[09:42] Shai : should produce a bounce
[09:42] Shai : looks like squaring off of overnight long positions
[09:43] RK : SUN TV 423 done
[09:43] RK : possible for 434 Shai? Volume seems good today ahead of results
[09:44] RK : I think resolution has slightly gone down in charts
[09:46] Shai : sun tv upside looks limited on current volumes
[09:47] Shai : 436 possibly only if it crosses 425 on good volumes else will come down
[09:49] Shai : some determined longs at the lows today in both NF and BNF
[09:49] Shai : not closing yet
[09:50] Shai : highs are staying in the IB hour whch means the early longs are still in
[09:50] RK : noted on Sun tv .thanks
[09:50] Shai : welcome
[09:51] Shai : sun business still good down south?
[09:51] Tejpreet : @Shai lvls for icici bank.
[09:55] Shai : icici cash 339 and 328 downside in cash- strength abv 349 only
[09:56] Tejpreet : Thanks . So a safe bet would be to pick up 340 call around 339 cash.
[09:57] r m : NF IBH is at VAL, guess a breakout should give 80% trade
[09:57] r m : once IB is formed
[09:58] Shai : tied tightly to the fortunes of BNF tejpreet
[09:58] Shai : or the other way around if you please
[09:58] r m : 🙂
[09:59] Tejpreet : true that is why small lot of option only no futures.
[09:59] Shai : this morning activity in icici does not give conviction on long or short side
[09:59] Shai : yes that would be the right thing to do
[10:07] Varun : @shai u mention a spike trade in ur blog, what does tht mean can u elaborate
[10:10] Shai : spike is an unfinished auction
[10:11] r m : bnf done 19416 target1 (well, almost!)
[10:11] Shai : continuation only below spike low or spike high
[10:11] Shai : the market closed before the process completed yesterday
[10:12] Varun : and how do we know its a spike
[10:13] r m : @Shai, big sellers in NF at 8795 or so, should we exit the 80% trades seeing such sellers?
[10:13] Shai : yes can exit or reduce qty
[10:14] r m : Thanks
[10:14] Shai : what it tells us is higher prices are being used to sell
[10:14] r m : ok
[10:16] Shai : jublfoods big gainer today- people ordering more pizza?
[10:17] r m : must be AK’s followers, they are enthused by Opinion polls 🙂
[10:22] Shai : 🙂
[10:23] Shai : amazingly the same guys gave them 4 votes last time
[10:23] Shai : I wonder who will be the clowns again
[10:23] Shai : 8815/ 19415 time to be cautious
[10:24] Shai : end of IB hour
[10:24] r m : BJP holding power in Delhi Municipal Corporations since time immemorial, guess people not very happy with local governance
[10:24] Shai : has been a drive of reduced strength
[10:24] Shai : vwap comes into play as support rest of the morning
[10:25] RK : Sun tv still at untouchable at top place
[10:26] RK : their prime time ad cost are very expensive
[10:26] Shai : ok
[10:26] RK : they were debt free company for years but unfortunately spicejet biten his fingers
[10:27] RK : till spice jet Kalanithi maran was known as man with golden arms in south 🙂
[10:27] Shai : yes am aware of the spicejet angle
[10:28] Varun : same story airlines world over, no company makes profit..only govt run airline survive on subsidies
[10:29] Varun : and very strange too, with airlines always going full
[10:30] r m : too cometitive to survive
[10:30] r m : *competitive
[10:30] Rav : airlines and telecom are ego startup.one or two survive as per world history
[10:33] Rav : n pcr 1.1 and bn pcr 0.6!!!!
[10:34] Rav : bn will drag n
[10:38] Shai : that seller at 10.15 tilted the BNF balance
[10:39] Rav : wipro with hi vol
[10:41] Shai : yes IT is up and psubank realty down today
[10:42] Rav : 19200ce selling is heavy
[10:43] Porus : Shai, what are the ST levels for HCL TEch?
[10:46] Shai : using 1897 as supp can do 2001 from here
[10:47] Shai : cmp 1935
[10:47] Shai : cash
[10:47] Shai : tom/ mon
[10:47] Porus : ok
[10:48] RK : Shai LT has any chance to break 1670 cash?
[11:00] Shai : LT is looking weak here but volumes are not big to suggest a breakdown
[11:00] Shai : looking at 1692 on clsoing basis on friday
[11:01] Shai : could be a 50 point downside if we close below that next week
[11:01] RK : thanks
[11:01] Shai : min 50 point downside
[11:01] RK : got it
[11:07] Rav : wipro 628 booked at 636
[11:11] Shai : BNF ready to run upto 400 again
[11:14] Rav : bn is in sdie way for option writing.should we buy again at 19320+
[11:14] Rav : side
[11:30] Shai : yes had suggested the same to 400- 415
[11:30] Shai : (11:11) Shai :BNF ready to run upto 400 again
[11:32] Vinay : Shai, yesbank_F seems to be holding the 798-808 band. I am short, should I be looking to book in this zone
[11:38] Porus : shai, what shld be SL for bnf buy to 400?
[11:41] Shai : Porus 12270
[11:42] Porus : ok thanks
[11:42] Porus : 19270?
[11:43] Shai : yes bank 788 was the obj of the move below 825
[11:43] Shai : it’s missed narrowly
[11:44] Vinay : ok
[11:44] Vinay : thanks
[11:44] Shai : if you are short from higher have to keep tsl of 826 now
[11:44] Shai : Yes Porus 19270 🙂
[11:44] Vinay : ok
[11:45] Vinay : PDH is 828
[11:45] Vinay : maybe a little higher
[11:45] Shai : yes
[11:46] Shai : 1 point errror in the chart as not set to decimals
[12:02] Shai : auction in NF stuck below 8806- 8816
[12:02] Shai : sellers still hold control below that
[12:02] Shai : once above can go to 8850/ 8895
[12:03] Shai : abv 8815 F
[12:03] Shai : BNF 18225- 19270 showed buyers today
[12:04] Shai : if they give up on any price probe below expect a steeper fall to pssibly 18860 by Mon
[12:30] Sharad : Ravi, Can you check why ” price change ” column not coming in USDINR option chain
[12:32] Rav : Not having that chain
[12:33] Sharad : can you check on nse website
[12:33] Sharad : should i give you link ?
[12:35] Rav : http://www.nseindia.com/marketinfo/fxTracker/optChainDataByExpDates.jsp
[12:35] Rav : not there
[12:35] Sharad : http://nseindia.com/live_market/dynaContent/live_watch/fxTracker/optChainDataByExpDates.jsp
[12:36] Sharad : ya .. what to do to get that ?
[12:36] Rav : you have to write macro to update price change in excel
[12:37] Sharad : ok so have to hire a software guy.. as i do not know
[12:38] Rav : yes
[12:39] Sharad : ok Thanks
[12:39] Rav : cross currency impact is intangible in fx trading
[12:39] Rav : so I avoided long back
[12:39] Sharad : ok but i trade more in it so asked
[12:40] Sharad : anyway thanks for the help
[12:44] Porus : When will OBC results be out?
[12:45] Porus : *UCO
[12:45] Porus : Shai, any ST levels for UCO?
[12:49] Rav : Shard….use my NIFTY.XLS file…you will get price change
[12:49] Shai : uco 69.5 was the imbalance tgt
[12:49] Shai : has sold off quite a bit
[12:50] Porus : ok thanks.
[12:50] Shai : don’t see price staying below 67.1
[12:50] Sharad : can you give again that file Ravi
[12:51] Rav : will do
[12:51] Sharad : ok thanks
[12:59] r m : @Sharad, may be too little movement in options makes it look like that CD option chain not updating?
[12:59] Sharad : yes RM movement is slow but updating…
[13:00] Sharad : but main issue is that NSE not giving price change of contract
[13:01] r m : ok
[13:04] r m : @Sharad, price changes coming in an quick excel file i made from that option chain
[13:05] Sharad : RM can you send that file pl.
[13:05] Sharad : how to do that i don’t know
[13:05] r m : sure, your email?
[13:06] Sharad : [email protected]
[13:06] r m : yeah, i have that one 🙂
[13:06] Sharad : ok
[13:09] r m : sent you that file, it is just a simple capture of CDoptionchain from nse website with 1 minute refresh, you may have to enable the data connecion if the file asks you
[13:10] Sharad : yes got thanks
[13:12] Sharad : RM file is currept and can not be opened
[13:12] r m : maybe you have a different version of excel?
[13:13] r m : i have office 2010 i think
[13:13] Sharad : i have same 2010
[13:13] r m : mysterious ways of excel!
[13:14] r m : it is working on my PC 🙂
[13:14] Sharad : not opening… download it from your mail and try to open that
[13:14] r m : I checked with NEST to see if rates updating!
[13:14] r m : ok
[13:15] Shai : 8850
[13:15] Shai : just like that
[13:15] r m : no issue, i downloaded and it asked me to enable editing and then enable contents Sharad
[13:16] Shai : this market is a rogue
[13:16] Sharad : wow .. lets see again
[13:17] r m : it happened yeterday too Shai, almost impssible to enter though unless stop-market orders ae already in place!
[13:17] Shai : yes
[13:17] r m : this one is on good volumes
[13:19] Shai : 8851 is a seller
[13:19] Shai : if he gets steamrolled another 30 point jump
[13:21] r m : boom!
[13:21] r m : sellers are piling on with all the got!
[13:22] RK : biggest seller was around 8815
[13:23] r m : that was Shai’s old friend mentioned in Hypo 🙂
[13:23] RK : he is with fevicol there for last 2 days 🙂
[13:23] r m : lol
[13:23] RK : KRA fellow 🙂
[13:24] r m : somebody took his key and ran away 🙂
[13:24] Shai : hdfc shortcovering increased
[13:24] Shai : today’s stock F data would be buy side
[13:24] Shai : should be *
[13:25] Shai : BNF is free to run up now
[13:25] Shai : 19540
[13:30] Shai : 19410 supp
[13:33] RK : HCL and HDFC are the stars
[13:37] Varun : @shai is 8810 dvah ?
[13:38] Porus : Europe opens down
[13:39] Varun : or is 8842
[13:40] r m : 8817
[13:40] Shai : 8817 dvah
[13:42] Varun : which line in profile chart indicates it
[13:42] Varun : what does 8810 blue line indiacte
[13:42] Shai : just abv pocv
[13:43] r m : turquoise blue lines
[13:43] Shai : fluorescent blue
[13:43] Varun : ok gr8
[13:43] Varun : i was looking at profile chart
[13:43] Shai : yes RM is technically more correct 🙂
[13:43] r m : lol
[13:43] Varun : thr is a blue line at 8810
[13:43] Shai : anomaly
[13:44] Varun : hmmm ok
[13:44] Varun : looking for a retouch or a run away move then
[13:46] Shai : today could be a DD in NF
[13:47] Shai : likely to stay abv 8820 and do 8895
[13:47] Sharad : RM sorry gone for lunch , downloaded from 4shared , but same says corrupt can not open
[13:48] r m : ok, will just send you a mail after market on how to make that excel file
[13:48] Sharad : ok thanks
[13:48] Shai : BNF same trade as yesterday for longs in the same zone of 19485
[13:48] r m : welcome
[13:48] Shai : yesterday was a disaster
[13:49] Shai : upsdie is till 620 and 735 by tom
[13:49] RK : for 19600 with 19400 SL
[13:49] RK : ok 620
[13:49] Shai : yes 19620
[13:50] Shai : Fii were short in stock F
[13:50] Shai : looks like they beguntocover
[14:02] Shai : 523
[14:02] Shai : spot close abv 19350 is a buy with sl of 19240
[14:03] Shai : tgt 19612/ 19764 next week
[14:10] Rav : 17% NF and 30% bnf SC happened
[14:11] Shai : NF can do 8930
[14:11] Shai : sl will be 8849
[14:11] Shai : just below pdh
[14:14] Shai : 30% in BNF is huge Ravi
[14:15] Rav : agree. now the become lbu and hence
[14:15] Rav : they
[14:17] Shai : let’s see the close in BNF
[14:17] Shai : can create more short covering in last 45 mins
[14:17] Rav : 9000ce SC
[14:22] Rav : After SC, If followup buying is not happening,it is becoming double weak
[14:26] Shai : 8858 should hold here
[14:26] Shai : sellers coming in as green turns pink
[14:27] Manoj : @Shai…that green turns pink means limit sell orders…right?
[14:27] Rav : this 5 min candle closing need to be taken into account and not starting
[14:27] Shai : limit + market on an avg
[14:28] Manoj : k
[14:28] Shai : stay long as much as that is green
[14:28] r m : @RK, that seller at 8815 was bypassed 🙂 http://screencast.com/t/2asZtrfpaei4
[14:29] Shai : was steamrolled actually 🙂
[14:29] r m : yeah, with a 1 lakh hp engine 🙂
[14:30] Shai : good chance for the NF to visist that prior seller at 8950
[14:30] RK : Yes RM can see only a flash there:)
[14:30] Shai : something similar to what RM put up happened there earlier
[14:31] r m : the Pink cometh!
[14:31] Rav : they may surprise with gapup
[14:36] Shai : yes that pink means upside done for the day most probably
[14:36] Shai : 8850- 8890 DD to play
[14:55] r m : bears galore
[14:56] Rav : nf 11% sbu and bnf 11% snu afresh
[14:58] Rav : writers work
[14:58] Shai : BNf does 300 points as if it has nothing else to do
[14:59] r m : vwap acting as a fulcrum 🙂
[14:59] Rav : spot was back 8745-8755 yesterday writing range
[15:00] r m : ok
[15:02] r m : while nifty CE prices went downhill, PEs were rotating in a small range http://vtrender.com/nifty-option-charts-4th-feb-2015/
[15:02] Rav : nf 10% Long added
[15:06] r m : neutral day in BNF
[15:06] Rav : nf sbu bnf lu….good for bnf tomorrow
[15:10] Shai : looks like morning longs forced to close
[15:11] Rav : LU now SBU
[15:15] Shai : BNF back to doinh 18860
[15:15] Shai : NF to 8685
[15:15] Shai : what a reversal
[15:17] Rav : Pre[arong for budget rehersal
[15:17] Rav : preparing
[15:19] Rav : shai shall we cover bnf or carry forward
[15:20] Shai : 19006 was the obj of the move below spike low
[15:20] Shai : almost there
[15:21] Shai : highs of 19240 are another short tom
[15:21] Rav : 19090 and 8723 booked
[15:22] Shai : 170 point swing
[15:22] Shai : caught the mkt napping
[15:27] Shai : buyers at lows
[15:27] Shai : another spike actually
[15:28] Shai : hell it’s not even a friday
[15:30] Shai : NSE happiest today
[15:30] Shai : first bears then bulls
[15:30] Shai : Bye all
[15:30] Shai : Have a nice evening
[15:30] RK : oops..hard to digest the run..:))..bye all
[15:30] Rav : many calls stikes liquidated
[15:30] r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great evening 🙂
[15:38] Porus : bye all