General Chat Transcript
Date and Time: April 07, 2015 09:10:28
[08:57] r m : Good Morning folks!
[08:57] r m : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-7thapr/
[08:57] Porus : GM RM and all
[08:57] Shai : GM all
[08:57] r m : http://vtrender.com/premium/orderflow-charts-and-notes-0604/
[08:58] r m : Hi Porus
[08:58] r m : Nifty April Future levels Key Reference Area 8669 Hypo1 below 8646➜8603➜8563 SL 8668 Hypo2 above 8669➜8692➜8728 SL 8640
[08:58] r m : Banknifty April Future levels KRA 18810 Hypo1 below 18810➜18618➜18474 SL 18845 Hypo2 above 18845➜18960➜19056 SL 18760
[09:02] r m : MO reached +59 yesterday
[09:02] Amit J : MO was super fast from -70 to +59
[09:04] r m : yes, 4 days only
[09:04] RK : GM Shai,RM and all
[09:05] r m : Hi RK
[09:08] Tejpreet : GM All
[09:11] Keshav : gm all\
[09:19] Porus : Sshai, can you adjust footprint chart to show total delta?
[09:19] Shai : Not showing?
[09:20] Porus : No
[09:20] Shai : on NF?
[09:20] r m : red, green delta bars are showing on both
[09:20] Porus : NF is OK.
[09:21] Porus : BNF shows oly the last column
[09:22] Kathir : GM Shai RM and all friends
[09:22] Shai : Thanks for pointing that out
[09:22] Porus : yes, now ok
[09:22] r m : Hi Kathir
[09:22] Kathir : @keshav how are you
[09:22] Janak : shai a visit to 8650 NF is there today?
[09:24] Shai : A lot can happen today
[09:24] Shai : Prefer to be open without a big bias till 12 noon
[09:25] Shai : BNF open in range and value
[09:25] Shai : NF abv range and value
[09:25] Shai : so there is a bit of a disconnect to this open
[09:25] Janak : nf has done 100 up from yday morning – so it will cool off a bit around 8650?
[09:26] Shai : should
[09:26] Amit J : shai your view on ab nuvo for long.
[09:26] Shai : there is clear res in this zone
[09:26] Shai : with a sl of 8733 it is a short to fill up gap and to vah to begin with
[09:28] Kathir : @shai 18k pe taken yest hold till rbi news any views for that?
[09:28] Shai : a birla good abv 1678 but has to cross 1694
[09:29] Shai : tgt is 1734
[09:29] Amit J : thks
[09:31] Kathir : @shai 18k pe taken yest hold till rbi news any views for that?
[09:31] Shai : Kathir it is a positional hold till 18800- 18860 spot goes
[09:32] Kathir : oh ok thanks
[09:32] Janak : if they take bn to 500 and below before policy time – bn might tank to 18k today itself?
[09:32] Shai : Yesterday buyers at 18610/620 seen as a support in BNF
[09:33] Shai : below that should give the 18474/ 18510
[09:33] Shai : NF is now an OAOR
[09:33] Shai : BNF an OAIR
[09:35] Janak : bearish poss would be that entire upmove from 8610 from yday will be retraced
[09:37] Shai : Right Janak- we are listening 🙂
[09:37] Janak : lol
[09:37] Kathir : 🙂
[09:37] RK : Shai view on HCL pls
[09:38] RK : holding shorts
[09:38] r m : nf gap filled
[09:40] Shai : hcl tech gets stronger abv 938
[09:40] Shai : 948 sl for shorts actually – can rush to 968/963
[09:41] Janak : 18kpe decayed by 10 pts
[09:41] RK : thanks Shai..
[09:43] Shai : 18631
[09:43] Shai : that buyer is in that zone
[09:43] r m : seller at 710
[09:46] Janak : rm what do FII activity suggest?
[09:47] r m : they went net short yesterday in index futures but were long in Index CE
[09:48] r m : http://vtrender.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/fiioi1.png
[09:49] r m : MO at 59 is also a threat to longs
[09:49] Janak : what does that mean? are they bearish?
[09:49] r m : but today only Rajan is the threat!
[09:49] Janak : u have his no? 😉
[09:49] Shai : Sell NF 8694- 8698 sl of 8714 tgt 8668
[09:51] r m : @Janak, no man! I don’t give my number to such folks! 😀
[09:52] Janak : lol
[09:52] Kathir : 🙂
[09:54] Janak : nf delta -1 lac!
[10:00] Janak : sold silver at 38170 at close booked at 37880 at open
[10:00] Janak : chandi hi chandi rm sir 🙂
[10:01] r m : sab sona chandi Pondy mein chala gaya 🙂
[10:01] Janak : aur ileana dehradoon ;
[10:02] r m : lol
[10:02] Janak : i wonder why MCX is not introducing comm options?
[10:03] Janak : that will shoot its turnover 20 times
[10:03] r m : perhaps they are not getting writers willing to do harakiri 😀
[10:03] Amit J : it is not allowed . they are desperate
[10:03] r m : ok
[10:04] Janak : but why not allowed? any logic?
[10:04] Janak : but one can imagine – silver daily moves 2000 pts and with options – people will go bankrupt on daily basis 🙂
[10:05] r m : lol
[10:06] Amit J : as no reulator for mcx. now sebi will be regulator so it may allow various product
[10:06] Amit J : but will take 1 yr more
[10:06] Janak : ok
[10:07] r m : yes
[10:15] Janak : only if i cud ask shai abt where the copper is going 🙂 it is in a strong downtrend
[10:27] Shai : One touch to vah pending pre RBI
[10:28] Janak : shai pl put copper chart 🙂
[10:28] Shai : There is non acceptance of price abv 8676 spot in the IB
[10:29] Shai : post RBI that is still the level to watch
[10:29] Janak : rbi at 12?
[10:29] Janak : bn will give those famous wild 200 pts move in seconds
[10:30] r m : 11
[10:30] r m : don’t wait till 12 🙂
[10:30] Janak : lol
[10:30] Shai : yes it will
[10:31] Shai : at 10.55 – 10.59
[10:31] Shai : and if RR delays for 2 mins – God help
[10:31] Janak : can RR as an individual trade the mkt?
[10:31] RK : delay suggests?
[10:32] Shai : He is punctual
[10:32] RK : got it
[10:32] Shai : but traders panic if news not out
[10:34] Mandar : GM. Shai do you see 8750-60 in nifty ft above todays high?
[10:35] Shai : yes
[10:35] Mandar : 8850? 🙂
[10:35] Shai : Exit NF shorts at cmp here 8690
[10:35] Shai : we may move to 8723 once up
[10:36] Shai : Mandat I see 8796 spot abv today highs
[10:36] Mandar : ok
[10:37] Mandar : thanks Shai.
[10:47] Janak : even for a move up a swipt to take out sl down will be there?
[10:48] Shai : looks like that vah move is shelved and a move to take out shorts will come first
[10:48] Janak : ok
[10:48] Shai : hence suggested exit
[10:52] Tejpreet : Market has not shown any reaction to MAT on Fii for profits earned….could that also come into play post RBI.
[10:53] Tejpreet : Fii selling can begin in the spike post rbi.
[10:56] Shai : 10.55 spike
[10:56] Shai : 18581
[11:00] Amit J : no chg
[11:00] Shai : Nice Amit
[11:01] Shai : 2 mins before
[11:01] Kathir : unchanged
[11:01] Shai : 8670 low
[11:02] Shai : BNF weak below 18650
[11:05] Shai : BNF is weak here
[11:05] Shai : can do that 18474 today
[11:08] Shai : Sell NF 8670 sl of 9695 tgt 8630/ 8610
[11:08] Shai : 8695 sl *
[11:10] Shai : watch 8628 on spot- a break of 8628 brings in weekly supp at 8540 immediately
[11:11] Amit J : shai 80% in nifty
[11:12] Porus : no change in rates
[11:12] Shai : yes
[11:13] Shai : 18474
[11:13] Shai : that 18000 pehas done 199
[11:13] Shai : hold
[11:15] Shai : Book part of that NF short at 8643 leave bal for 8610
[11:16] Shai : a problem is if everyone issues a sell alert now and NF/ BNF jump up as a result
[11:17] Shai : if BN breaks 18405 now we get 18130 spot
[11:17] Shai : 18405 spot
[11:18] Hussain : shai if yesterday balnce broken than can we consider positional sell?
[11:19] Shai : positional sell if VAL breaks
[11:20] Shai : Uprending mkt staying abv VAH mostly- reversal is trade below VAL
[11:21] Shai : Boucne to 8680 F can get sold again
[11:22] Varun : probably shld nt renter ib, if has to fall
[11:22] Hussain : ok thanks
[11:22] r m : NTPC back to 154
[11:22] Shai : Yes Varun
[11:23] RK : but as Shai said entire world wants to sell the mkt..so may have to wait for 2.30
[11:24] r m : 🙂
[11:35] Varun : @shai blog mentions vah as 76
[11:35] Shai : mainatining 18645 as res
[11:35] Varun : chat room mentions as 62
[11:35] Varun : ?
[11:35] Shai : 62 is right
[11:36] Varun : so rejected entry into vah with bad news in hand
[11:36] Varun : seems bullish ?
[11:36] Shai : Not yet
[11:36] Shai : auction developing
[11:37] Shai : 8680 ref line
[11:37] Shai : see if it gets abv IBL also
[11:41] Shai : We are not shorting NF now till it breaks 8662 again
[11:43] Shai : Short BNF btw 18585- 18590 sl of 18650 tgt 18510/ 18474
[11:44] Shai : so 40 mins later RBI is a non event ?
[11:44] Shai : fr the mkt that is
[11:44] Shai : 1st cut big upside, second cut big downside so RR said no cut 🙂
[11:47] Hussain : 😉
[11:47] r m : Must be Janak’s work, he was asking for RR’s number 🙂
[11:48] Shai : lol
[11:48] Janak : or maybe shai – got into 18kpe yday 😉
[11:49] r m : lol
[11:49] Janak : it has done 199 so far and most likely will go above 200?
[11:50] Shai : NF is not wating to be short
[11:50] Shai : wanting
[11:50] r m : NF in IB
[11:51] r m : if BNS moves to 18130 that PE will be around 300
[11:51] Shai : NF can do 8732
[11:51] Janak : 650 sl will go shai?
[11:52] r m : my msg appearing late 🙂
[11:52] Shai : BNF sl taken
[11:54] Shai : Now shorts coming
[11:54] Shai : sl hunting
[12:07] Shai : that sl in BNF got taken and we are down again
[12:07] RK : NF shorts now can keep IB low SL?
[12:07] Shai : yes
[12:07] RK : gone for BNF again on the drop below 590
[12:08] Shai : yes
[12:08] Porus : what are bnf targets below 474?
[12:08] Janak : decider move shai?
[12:08] Janak : bn may go down to 18k now?
[12:10] Shai : yes
[12:10] Shai : Porus we are looking at 18248 F
[12:11] RK : exit 505..
[12:12] RK : on break of low may go again
[12:13] Shai : NF has more to fall
[12:18] Tejpreet : Shai now any rise on NF can be shorted with sl at 8735 …positional.
[12:18] Shai : NF new shorts will keep sl at 8680 instead of 8668
[12:19] Shai : Yes Tejpreeet that is right view
[12:19] Shai : this weakness now is to 8541 for the positional player
[12:19] Tejpreet : Ok.
[12:19] Shai : 8541 spot
[12:20] Shai : looking at 18131 spot in BN but good addition of shorts to come below 18405
[12:26] Janak : bounce till 550?
[12:26] Shai : possible Janak
[12:26] Shai : but don’t do contra
[12:27] Janak : ok
[12:30] Janak : 18400-450 is a strong buyers zone?
[12:31] Shai : 18415 supp
[12:31] Janak : 477-670 was the first bounce up
[12:32] Shai : contra long abv 18467 F only with sl of 18414 tgt 18505/ 18540
[12:32] Janak : if 421 is a bounce point – it can do another 100 up
[12:32] Shai : 18467 has to cross
[12:32] Shai : Selling abv is heavier Janak
[12:32] Shai : and they took retail out on that bounce
[12:54] Shai : Buyers trying to come back at 18415
[12:54] Shai : NF has done POC but continues to be weak below 8646
[12:55] Amit J : RM what is MO now
[13:00] r m : @Amit 53
[13:01] Janak : shai 522/550 can come here?
[13:01] r m : my msgs getting delayed, pls bear with me 🙂
[13:01] Amit J : thks
[13:02] Shai : 522 possible
[13:02] Shai : careful with NF shorts also
[13:02] Shai : can bounce upto 8674
[13:04] Janak : 520
[13:04] Kasi : tq
[13:07] Sharad null : Hi Guys…logging from mobile..can any one give 18000 put price?
[13:08] Tejpreet : current 196
[13:08] Tejpreet : high 220 low 132
[13:09] Sharad null : thanks…still holding..Shai hold na
[13:11] Shai : yes
[13:12] Sharad null : Ok thanks
[13:12] Amit J : look trending day today
[13:14] Janak : can book at 550 shai?
[13:25] Janak : came to 538 and went down
[13:41] Shai : down move has been halted for now
[13:51] Tejpreet : Global cues are positive ….any dip now sould be used to book shorts …carrying positional looks risky ….your views Shai.
[14:04] Shai : we should finsish at 8610/ 03 where we can book part shorts
[14:04] Shai : that will be in line with 1st obj around 8540 spot
[14:05] Tejpreet : Great ..thanks.
[14:23] Janak : 620 can coe?
[14:29] Shai : bounce done- (13:02) Shai :can bounce upto 8674
[14:29] Shai : Now closing hour action
[14:30] Shai : has to break 8636 now and then we short for 30 points quickly
[14:30] Shai : tgt 8603 below 8635
[14:32] Shai : Janak 580 val and just below vwap
[14:40] Shai : ES is trapped between 2062- 2078 now
[14:41] Shai : may spend some more sessions in that 16 point range
[14:42] Shai : BNF is more weaker that NF having stayed below VAL and hence that up trend is gone in BNF
[14:42] Shai : But NF is still resilient and stays abv POC/ VAH
[14:43] Shai : BNF chart with value an POC staying up : http://vtrender.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/BNF_compo2.png
[14:43] Shai : we will see that change today
[14:43] Shai : 18248 F still the objective as long as we stay below 18624 F now
[14:45] Shai : There was some buying/ shortcovering neted at 18415 and that needs to be taken down by bears
[14:46] Shai : these guys arund 1 pm – (12:54) Shai :Buyers trying to come back at 18415
[14:47] Shai : vwap now- trying to push up to 9694 F
[14:48] Shai : 8694*
[14:54] Shai : Sell NF 8670- 8674 sl of 8695 tgt 8646/ 8630
[15:08] Shai : enter stops in system- we will let go of short if 8695 is taken out
[15:12] Shai : sl taken
[15:12] Shai : closing is an anti climax
[15:21] Shai : NF on the opp side
[15:21] Janak : bulls r here to stay
[15:23] Shai : lots of green from 8686
[15:24] Shai : 8700 ce dropped 8% in last 30 mins
[15:24] Tejpreet : Shai ….can 18000 put be brought again at closing 165
[15:24] Shai : yes
[15:24] Shai : shorts should come back in NF here too
[15:26] Tejpreet : Volumes are good for the day.
[15:26] Shai : BNF below 18625 and NF at day high
[15:26] Shai : mkt is not in sync
[15:27] Amit J : midcaps in fulll mood
[15:27] Amit J : MO should be very strong
[15:27] Shai : yes 1:2 adv dec in 140 stocks
[15:28] Amit J : abnuvo any level above 1730
[15:30] Shai : 1782
[15:30] r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great evening 🙂
[15:30] Amit J : bye
[15:31] Shai : Bye all
[15:31] Shai : Have a nice evening
[15:31] Porus : Bye all
[15:31] Tejpreet : Bye All.