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Date and Time: January 14, 2016 09:09:58
[09:09] Shai : (08:58) r m:http://vtrender.com/evening-report-trade-dated-13th-jan/
(08:58) r m:http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-and-notes-130116/
(08:58) r m:Nifty Future JAN KRA 7762 | Hypo1 above 7813➜7834➜7878 SL 7775 | Hypo2 below 7770➜7741➜7725 SL 781
(08:58) r m:Banknifty Future JAN KRA 16525 | Hypo1 above 16626➜16689➜16819 SL 16520 | Hypo2 below 16502➜16445➜16395 SL 16605
[09:16] Shai : (09:16) Shai :Make an exit in the BN positional sell at 15630 now
[09:18] Shai : (09:17) Shai :Positional update NF : Bring Sl of the NF positional sell to 7520 F
[09:23] Shai : (09:23) Shai :Hold 7600 ce at 47 for now
[12:56] Shai : (12:56) Shai :Part book 7600 ce 84 85 , bring sl to 72 on balance
Custom Chat Transcript
Date and Time: January 14, 2016 09:09:58
[09:31] Porus : Shai, infy upside target?
[09:34] Shai : 1130/ 1170
[09:34] Shai : posted yesterday in slack
[09:35] Porus : ok, diff to keep track of two channels
[09:35] Shai : 1095 intra supp
[09:36] Tejpreet : Infy gives 19 points on that 1080 straddle at 63 exit put after result at 19 and call at 63
[09:37] Ashish : Bravo Tej
[09:39] Tejpreet : Had posted that yesterday afternoon in hat as vix was low and just needed 6 % move 🙂
[09:51] RK : for index management to neutralise Infy affect, will they adapt HDFC?
[09:52] RK : *effect
[09:54] Ashish : Shai, USDINR targets on upside please
[09:57] RK : Shai HCL intra obj on upside?
[09:57] Shai : usdinr intra tgt 67.24 crossed and headed to 67.55/62
[09:57] Shai : 67.03 supp
[09:58] Ashish : Thanks
[09:58] Shai : hcl tech 847/ 855 intra
[09:58] RK : thanks
[09:59] Shai : 833 sl
[09:59] RK : got it
[10:59] R Goel : shai view on relcap
[11:01] Shai : relcap looking good abv 406 for now – 416 minor res but if that taken out can do 443 with stops below 405
[11:01] Shai : when is asian reporting?
[11:02] Uttam : 18
[11:02] Uttam : monday
[11:03] Shai : asian ha sa bullish looking profile going intra- looks good as long a sabv 857 now and can tgt 889/ 901 . intra res today at 881
[11:03] Uttam : thanks shai
[11:17] Vikkas : shai view on L&T for postional longs ?
[11:24] Shai : LT positional is a good long abv 1145 close but itra day looks like may hit 1171 today if crosses 1139
[11:26] Tejpreet : Is it possible to have this chat content on slack , so that in case of net issues we do not miss out on info.
[11:27] r m : all chat on slack and just charts here Tejpreet?
[11:27] Uttam : Shai Asian seing good buying today? raking it up just before results?
[11:27] Uttam : yep RM thats a good idea
[11:28] Tejpreet : No mainly stock chat as a back up in case of net issues from user end .
[11:29] r m : ok
[11:29] Tejpreet : Thanks
[11:29] r m : can anyone give me adv/dec, not able to open nse 🙁
[11:30] Uttam : 322-1186
[11:30] r m : @Tejpreet, that ok was meant that i understand your point 🙂
[11:30] r m : Thanks Uttam
[11:30] Uttam : 🙂 for once role reversal 😉
[11:31] r m : MO at -77
[11:31] Uttam : oh yesterday it was -65 right when you gave the warning bell?
[11:31] Tejpreet : RM ji other room 🙂
[11:33] r m : yeah, typed there too 🙂
[11:44] Vikkas : thanx shai
[12:46] Ashish : Shai, Bosch looks good for 18600 levels?
[12:55] Shai : 17620 a good supp but 18180 cn resist cross abv 18180 can bring 18640
[12:55] Ashish : Thanks Shai
[12:56] Shai : Part book 7600 ce 84 85 , bring sl to 72 on balance
[13:05] Uttam : Shai super levels in Asian, hits first tgt…2nd also can come?
[13:10] Shai : yes thatis postnl
[13:11] Uttam : looks like a trend day over there?
[13:11] Uttam : close @ highs possibly
[13:12] Shai : possible
[13:12] Uttam : great took the options route booked 1 lot for 6 points & will keep another for 10+
[13:56] Tejpreet : Shai views on SBIN
[13:59] Sameer : shai i want to ask about one NASDAQ listed comapny technicals…can I ask ou over email
[13:59] Sameer : ?
[13:59] Shai : sbin needs a close abv 203- 205 for long views to begin forming again – currently weak with 189 as a minor supp
[14:00] Shai : I won’t have charts Sameer for Nasdaq listed
[14:07] Tejpreet : Thanks Shai
[14:09] Ashish : Shai, IRB infra can be shorted for 215 levels?
[14:19] Shai : IRB has res at 231- 233 but god suppp at 220.5
[14:19] Ashish : Thanks Shai
[14:30] Misaal : does anyone know penalty appliable on ban period
[14:30] Misaal : broker tells me for relinfra its 5000/lot/day
[14:30] Misaal : anyone ?
[14:30] Misaal : *applicable
[14:32] Uttam : testing vwap again
[14:33] Uttam : gone 🙁
[14:33] r m : @Misaar, 1% of the increased position – min 5000 max 1000000 per day
[14:33] Misaal : Oh. Thanks @rm
[14:33] r m : http://www.nseindia.com/products/content/derivatives/equities/penalties.htm
[14:34] r m : i typed one zero extra in max 🙂
[14:34] Misaal : yes, 1lkh
[14:35] Misaal : still scared though. hope 512 comes today on relinfra
[14:36] Misaal : @rm. can we know from mwpl if during the day a security comes out of ban period ?
[14:36] Misaal : say today -172,900 or 133 contracts have closed positions
[14:38] r m : normally brokers send a message every ten minutes about mwpl stocks
[14:38] r m : let me check heckyl
[14:45] Misaal : When, I check on nse websbite it says mpwl is 25,606.221
[14:45] Misaal : mwpl is inclusive of nse derivative oi and … ?
[14:46] r m : there is a client wise limit also, your broker’s limit may have exceeded
[14:46] r m : http://hdfcsec.com/Derivatives/Market-Wide-Position-Limit.aspx
[14:46] Misaal : Oh.
[14:46] r m : total limit is near 80% now
[14:47] Misaal : So, how does the trader know, it is in ban ?
[14:47] Misaal : like in the last 10 mins, there could be massive unwinding.
[14:47] Misaal : my question is what would the number be ?
[14:47] r m : broker will tell you in your trading software
[14:48] Misaal : hmm. ok thanks.
[14:50] r m : total limits are there in nse quote window – http://screencast.com/t/E8Yn2OP63
[14:54] Misaal : got it, thanks a ton.
[15:01] r m : @Misaal, you get such messages from broker every ten minutes in your trading terminal – http://screencast.com/t/cIUM2mFU73
[15:02] Tejpreet : Shai AXIS BANK for cash buying long term potfolio levels.
[15:12] Uttam : Asian gone mad Shai 😉 aiming 900 today itself
[15:17] Kathir : @tEJ ACTUALLY i WAS ABOUT ASK rk WHETHER AXIS WILL GO BELOW 300 NEXT MONTHS 🙂
[15:17] Kathir : oops
[15:18] Tejpreet : Could go i want to know the levels to sell otm options with intention of cash buying .
[15:18] Kathir : ok
[15:18] Shai : asian vol is on results expectation- could be some leaks and hence buying
[15:19] Shai : if you are tracking a stock please track the results date also
[15:19] Uttam : yep
[15:19] Uttam : monday it is for Asian (18)
[15:19] Uttam : so tom one more day it could play on the upside?
[15:19] Shai : and if you quering for a stock here , please update on results date if in next 3 sessions
[15:20] Shai : volumes change and so do the ranges
[15:20] Uttam : sure…
[15:20] Vikkas : +1 shai
General Chat Transcript
Date and Time: January 14, 2016 09:09:58
[08:58] r m : Good Morning folks!
[08:58] Ashish : GM all
[08:58] Porus : M all
[08:58] r m : http://vtrender.com/evening-report-trade-dated-13th-jan/
[08:58] r m : http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-and-notes-130116/
[08:58] r m : Nifty Future JAN KRA 7762 | Hypo1 above 7813➜7834➜7878 SL 7775 | Hypo2 below 7770➜7741➜7725 SL 781
[08:58] r m : Banknifty Future JAN KRA 16525 | Hypo1 above 16626➜16689➜16819 SL 16520 | Hypo2 below 16502➜16445➜16395 SL 16605
[09:00] Uttam : Good Morning Everyone 🙂
[09:03] Sridhara : GM everyone
[09:04] Bhagya : nifty fut yesterday VAL, POC and VAH
[09:05] r m : in reverse order 7599-7572-7491
[09:05] r m : http://vtrender.com/evening-report-trade-dated-13th-jan/
[09:05] Tejpreet : GM all.
[09:09] Shai : GM all
[09:09] Uttam : what a decision to carry shorts & not book a loss EOD Shai 🙂
[09:10] Jitender : Gm Shai,Rm, Folks:-)
[09:10] Uttam : at leasr we can recover the loss if not book in profit
[09:10] r m : Hi Jitender 🙂
[09:10] Uttam : *least
[09:12] R Goel : hello rm GM
[09:12] R Goel : not able to close the announcement section
[09:12] R Goel : not seeing the red cross
[09:12] Tejpreet : same here
[09:12] Arvind : GM all
[09:13] Sandip : Gm people
[09:16] Ashish : yes same here
[09:16] Varun : announcement tab hanged
[09:16] Varun : doesnt go
[09:16] r m : NF Hypo1 above 7630➜7696➜7722 SL 7570 NF Hypo2 below 7513➜7452➜7308 SL 7562
[09:16] Shai : Make an exit in the BN positional sell at 15630 now
[09:16] r m : BNF Hypo1 above 16001➜16150➜16270 SL 15900 BNF Hypo2 below 15709➜15557➜15238 SL 15805
[09:17] Venkatesan : gm shai.rm and to all
[09:17] Vikkas : Gdmrng all
[09:17] Vikkas : Hi RM & Shai
[09:17] Shai : Positional update NF : Bring Sl of the NF positional sell to 7520 F
[09:18] Shanmugasubramanian : GM all
[09:18] Uttam : BNF 16k CE hedge also to be exited Shai?
[09:18] Jitender : announcemnts has no red cross to close it….
[09:19] Shai : yes exit
[09:19] Uttam : 7600 CE SL hit so exit that also
[09:19] Vikkas : shai can u pls put numbers on the 5 & 30 mins NF pls
[09:20] Janak : someone wanted a co-reation between crude and mkts yday? crude fell from 2116 to 2025
[09:21] Vikkas : thanx
[09:21] Janak : and see what happend to US mkts
[09:21] Sandeep : shai, the 7600 hedge to be on hold?
[09:23] Shai : Hold 7600 ce at 47 for now
[09:24] Jitender : vix at 19.32
[09:24] Shai : allow 10 mins at open always for positional calls and their stops
[09:24] Uttam : oh ok
[09:25] Janak : US mkts are falling with a vengeance daily
[09:25] Vikkas : whats up with the announcement tab ..wheres the cross to close it :s
[09:27] r m : it has become disobedient, trying to contact omnovia support
[09:27] Vikkas : 🙂
[09:28] RK : GM Shai,RM and all
[09:28] RK : Shai good greens at lows..right?
[09:28] Jitender : infy rocks
[09:28] r m : Hi RK
[09:29] Porus : Infy moving, results out yet?
[09:29] Vikkas : just flashed on cnbc @porus
[09:29] Shai : yes RK
[09:29] Uttam : 80% could come into play, we have a big VA yesterday
[09:30] Tejpreet : infy good numbers
[09:35] Shai : largely an OAOR
[09:35] Jitender : ups its guidance to 12.8 to 13.2%
[09:36] Jitender : up from 10-12%
[09:37] Shai : 15555/ 7452 intra supp in NF for this open
[09:37] Shai : don’t see an upmove till it takes out 7520 again
[09:38] Shai : BNF 15665/ 15705 are 2 res for the upmove and 15403 is supp below
[09:46] Shai : OAOR it is
[09:46] RK : both tries to capture VAL and move up
[09:47] RK : last season also Infy was 10% up but NF was down with a company from Sun pharma 10% down
[09:48] Tejpreet : rk yo got phenomenal memory 😉
[09:49] RK : Can’t forget naughty things own babies doing 🙂
[09:49] Tejpreet : haha
[09:50] Varun : but shai we r still in range
[09:50] Varun : oaor ?
[09:51] Tejpreet : VIX crosses 19.5 !
[09:51] r m : lol
[09:52] Shai : ooops — I meant an open auction not OAOR
[09:53] Uttam : yesterday’s range was so much that it may take few days for price to get out of it 😉
[09:53] r m : everything gone upside down in my pc after windows auto upgrade, data out, nt out – total darkness 😀
[09:53] RK : RM it wants to convey some msg for the day it seems then 🙂
[09:54] Varun : 🙂
[09:57] Venkatesan : today is makkar sankranti nah rmji
[09:57] r m : lol
[09:58] r m : then sun should move northwards na!
[09:58] Venkatesan : :)))
[09:58] Jitender : nikkei down by -738
[10:04] Shai : there is a problem with the announcemnts tab today- it requires a fix- will not post anything there today- kindly stay logged in at Slack
[10:07] Tejpreet : Good idea …need screen real estate !
[10:07] Uttam : first 30 mins vols have been more than average Shai?
[10:07] Uttam : 30L
[10:08] Shai : yes big for first hour
[10:08] Shai : banks going south as IT moves up
[10:21] Uttam : Shai if we get back above 7495 in NF we could have 80% in play?
[10:21] Uttam : only concern is RE should not happen in Kris’s rahukalam 😉
[10:26] Vikkas : heads up inflation @ 12pm today
[10:26] Uttam : yep Vikkas
[10:30] Vikkas : no trades today 🙁
[10:30] RK : Uttam I dont think 80% will work for such a stretched profile of yday
[10:34] Sandip : maybe till yesterdays POC then RK?
[10:35] RK : this should get a headwind at yday vwap..
[10:36] RK : taking out 7520-25 means highly bullish..
[10:37] RK : two side fighting for control since open yday till now
[10:41] Uttam : yep RK agreed 80% will be difficult
[10:41] Uttam : sellers in NF
[10:41] Uttam : 47k / 25k / 17k
[10:41] Shai : No 80%
[10:42] Uttam : bcos VA is so long Shai?
[10:43] Shai : was a trend day y’day with no value creation
[10:43] Shai : was actually 2 trend days
[10:43] r m : V trend er day 🙂
[10:43] Uttam : 2 opposite moves so value is confusing
[10:46] Shai : haha RM – was a V no doubt
[10:46] Shai : we may be in that V for an extended period of time also
[10:56] Shai : Intra day : Keep a BNF buy abv 15623 sl 15565 tgt 15692/ 15780
[11:01] Sandeep : shai SL for positiona to be in system?
[11:04] Shai : yes – Make an exit
[11:04] Sandeep : thanks, along with hedge?
[11:05] Uttam : BNF intra in
[11:06] Shai : yes exit 7600 ce also and close the trade
[11:10] Shai : hold BNF intra long at 15555
[11:10] Hardik : @shai: we are flat in nifty trade if i am not wrong
[11:11] Shai : yes positional shorts closed now in both
[11:11] Shai : we will wait for a rise to short now
[11:12] Shai : RM what was MO in opening hour?
[11:12] r m : did not check at that time, i was struggling to restore my pc functioning 🙁
[11:13] Shai : oh yes I read your msg
[11:13] Shai : how’s everything now? all sorted?
[11:13] r m : yep, back on track 🙂
[11:13] Jitender : now we will get an RE…Rm’s bck
[11:13] Shai : I’ve had my share of problems with windows updates 🙂
[11:16] Sushovan : Do not update win 7 to win10. last week I scewed up. later reverted to win7
[11:18] r m : win 10 is much faster, only thing is uncertainty after each upgrade 🙂
[11:19] Hardik : I have been using Windows 10 for a month now and I have no complaints.
[11:19] Rahul P : rm, can u merge 2 days profile ?
[11:19] Rahul P : nf
[11:19] r m : sure
[11:20] Shai : part book BNF 16660
[11:20] Jitender : 1 lac seller in nf
[11:20] Shai : 15660*
[11:21] Jitender : k…tx
[11:22] Shai : seller in BNF also
[11:23] Jitender : 11.15-11.20 bar has seller 123150
[11:23] Jitender : nf
[11:23] r m : @Rahul http://screencast.com/t/CJqAQHBxGzb
[11:23] Rahul P : thanks
[11:24] Ashish : Shai, please shift 30 minute chart of NF
[11:25] Shai : done
[11:25] Shai : ranges settling down now
[11:25] Ashish : Thanks
[11:26] Shai : 15620 is TSL in BNF – still feel 15692 is bigger res but seller came early
[11:27] Rahul P : big red deltas are scaary on NF
[11:29] Uttam : BNF reversing from YVAL?
[11:29] Varun : shai wht is the addition in 30 mins
[11:30] Shai : no addition – same dva
[11:31] Varun : k, cool
[11:31] r m : MO at -77 as of now
[11:31] Varun : thanks
[11:31] RK : RM lets hit 90 by EOD and close this down move today 🙂
[11:32] r m : roger RK 🙂
[11:32] RK : again its not all rise situation now 🙂
[11:32] Tejpreet : yes rk
[11:32] r m : NF looks more balanced if merged from 7th till date, just with single horn on top (reminds me of a rhino!) – http://screencast.com/t/XVobYnL9pf
[11:33] Tejpreet : but greens aggressive today.
[11:33] RK : such a composite can’t stand in toes RM 🙂
[11:34] Tejpreet : May be this tie will be resolved by inflation numbers at 12.
[11:35] r m : @RK 🙂
[11:35] Jitender : Shai…FA of ystrday at 7603..?
[11:35] Bhagya : nifty bullish if 7510 held. Looking for 7578 to 7605 targets
[11:37] RK : somehow can accpept yday price action..but have not seen such a messy TA setup like today’s action in last one year..
[11:37] Jitender : tx B….
[11:38] Shai : No FA
[11:38] Jitender : k..tx
[11:39] Shai : yes NF can hit 7572 anb 7540 but is bullish now abv 7515
[11:47] Uttam : in 30 mins one big buyer @ top, could come under pressure?
[11:47] Sandip : @shai would this require a vwap touch to go further up till 7572?
[11:48] Uttam : IBH+VWAP around 7494 so break of that would be a short Shai?
[11:50] Shai : yes 7515 and 7494 2 supports
[11:50] Shai : market is getting accepted back to the 7520- 50 F zone
[11:51] Uttam : thanks Shai, vols more than avg till now so so far looking good for bulls?
[11:51] Shai : high risk play here for writers is to sell 7500 strike
[11:52] Shai : need a quick adjustement though if we begin to move abv 7640 or below 7530 but don’t think that is coming till maybe mid next week
[11:52] Shai : below 7430**
[11:53] Shai : BNF balance intra closed
[11:53] Uttam : yes it took support twice @ 15622 before letting go
[11:57] Tejpreet : Shai you mean sell 7500 straddle.
[12:01] Jitender : inflation at -.73%
[12:02] Jitender : vs est -1.07%
[12:04] r m : Thanks Jitender
[12:04] Jitender : wc ji
[12:05] RK : in 30 min candle by candle greens reducing as Reds dominate at top of every handle..tough to break out
[12:08] RK : I can see rotation of stocks to hold NF up..Infy then DR then HDFc now LT
[12:15] Sameer : where can I see your Nifty trading calls
[12:15] Sameer : ?
[12:16] Kathir : A
[12:16] Kathir : announcement tab and slack
[12:16] RK : no announcement today as it hangs..check Slack
[12:17] Kathir : sering anna
[12:17] r m : @Sameer, in intraday-index-alerts and positional-alerts channels
[12:17] Sameer : where is announcement tab?
[12:18] Sameer : ok rm
[12:18] r m : the second from right here but some tech issues today, matter has been raised with omnovia
[12:18] Shai : Buy 7600 ce again at 76 sl f 61 tgt 89/ 111
[12:19] Sameer : so “Announcement tab” calls = “intraday-index-alerts” + “positional-alerts channels”…right? So I dont have to opne slack if I just want to track NF and BNF calls b shai
[12:20] r m : all his calls will be in chat box, but if you want to check later, those are the places
[12:21] r m : also the auto-alert is first raised in slack
[12:21] Kathir : @RM last option – click RM tab and ask your doubts :
[12:22] r m : lol and pray that my net is working 😀
[12:22] Kathir : if you see ” your party has left the room” then your net not working
[12:23] r m : 🙂
[12:25] Sandip : after so many sellers also …were getting pushed above each time with shorters having to cover
[12:25] Kathir : almost past 5 or 6 30 min is red actually?
[12:26] Kathir : new shorts being built or longs exiting with 50 60 points profit?
[12:27] r m : should be new shorts, will know in evening from participantwise OI 🙂
[12:28] r m : they are not applying enough force to take market down, maybe just checking when bulls will hand over the baton to them 🙂
[12:28] Rahul P : so far has been one time framing
[12:29] r m : yesterday FIIs utilised that V shaped recovery to rotate sectors
[12:30] Kathir : RM ok thanks
[12:31] r m : welcome
[12:31] Bhagya : longs covered as 7550 is also a crucial hurdle and markets are very volatile
[12:32] Rahul P : bulls making this an emotional affair since morning
[12:32] RK : 7550 got series of buyers about 1 lac but next candle reds outnumbered them..
[12:32] RK : might be same buyer could have made exit..
[12:32] Sandip : bhagya…longs havent covered yet
[12:33] RK : we had some buyers in this 7555-60 yday too..
[12:34] RK : Shai can you pls go one font higher in daily?
[12:35] RK : greens at bottom of daily 2.45 matches with reds at top
[12:36] Kathir : yesterday 2.45 RK?
[12:37] Kathir : just befroe 15 mins delta was + 45k now almost zero NF
[12:39] RK : today morning Kathir
[12:39] Sandip : kathir i thought delta was for the 5 mins bars…is it from start od day?
[12:40] Sandip : correct me if im wrong
[12:41] Uttam : reds piling up on the 30 mins chart
[12:43] r m : delta below 5 minute bar for that bar
[12:44] Jitender : rm…heckyl pls
[12:44] r m : for entire day daily footprint can be checked
[12:44] Sandip : the green and red candles rite
[12:44] r m : yes
[12:44] Sandip : ohh k thx
[12:44] r m : sure Jitender
[12:44] Jitender : tx
[12:44] Kathir : thanks RM
[12:44] r m : welcome jee 🙂
[12:45] Shai : @rK 7555 is actually where the first big seller hit yesterday morning
[12:45] RK : exactly Shai
[12:48] Kathir : @shai vwap test possible now? nf before any big move
[12:48] RK : if this falls now, I dont think buyers will come to take a position till 7470
[12:48] RK : same above 7570..we can see massive short covering
[12:48] Rahul P : may well go for the test of excess
[12:49] RK : concern for sellers is huge BNF excess at lows..which was missing yday
[12:49] Kathir : ok RK
[12:49] RK : tons of trousers for sale today in last hour..dont know if mine will be also there 🙂
[12:49] Kathir : lol
[12:50] Sandip : some profit bookers in play…scared of the big reds on top maybe?
[12:52] Kathir : where is dpoc in 5 mins?
[12:53] RK : somebody asked for dpoc..here it is
[12:53] r m : 7532 in my chart
[12:54] Kathir : yes RK its me..thanks RM
[12:54] Ashish : Again, 1 lakh sellers
[12:54] Ashish : 1.5 actually
[12:56] Kathir : 12:56 Shai : Part book 7600 ce 84 85 , bring sl to 72 on balance
[12:56] Ashish : Shai : Part book 7600 ce 84 85 , bring sl to 72 on balance
[12:57] Shai : yup yesterday close
[12:57] Shai : sellers are on song at this 7570- 7600 F zone – they just keep adding – 5 days now same spot
[12:58] Rahul P : rm, whts MO now ?
[12:59] RK : vol crosses 10 m
[12:59] Ashish : 44851 buyer @ top
[13:01] RK : all getting exit
[13:01] r m : @Rahul -66
[13:04] Shai : 7600 ce at 94 now- book out
[13:05] Rahul P : 80% almost done 🙁
[13:05] Shai : 100 points for a 3 rows at the lows
[13:05] RK : 100 points gap down and green now 🙂
[13:09] Sameer : where is update?
[13:11] Shai : BNF is the one suffering today
[13:12] Kathir : they are managing index with IT
[13:13] Shai : equal chances of 7630 or 7540 here – 7585
[13:14] Shai : auction has to continue upwards to 7630 but orderflow shows sellers coming at every rise
[13:18] Sushovan : Shai sellers back in the game ?
[13:18] Kathir : @shai the anouncemnet msg popup not going away..if possible you remove it
[13:19] Shai : these could be positionals
[13:19] r m : @Kathir, it is omnovia issue, please slide the chart up or down to see below it 🙂
[13:19] Shai : yes they are around here
[13:20] Shai : Oh I forgot and posted to announcements- old habit
[13:20] Shai : gone now
[13:20] Kathir : yeah gone now thanks
[13:20] Sushovan : yah.
[13:20] Shai : we are not using announcements today as there is a bug which needs fixing
[13:21] Shai : will happen when old america gets up after we close session
[13:21] Shai : but should be alright tom, hopefully
[13:22] r m : there is some latest cosmetic upgrade they have done, this is a part of that package 🙂
[13:23] Kathir : @RM at waht levels real big short covering may come …7640?
[13:23] Shai : yes 100 points abv 7640 F
[13:24] Kathir : ok shai
[13:24] Shai : 3rd trend in this profile range 7480- 7580 in 2 days
[13:24] r m : they will make a perfect bell here before moving away
[13:25] r m : looks like that 🙂
[13:25] Shai : still inside after a 140 point range 🙂
[13:25] Kathir : how abt vix shai
[13:25] Shai : vix not sustaining 19.2- 19.5 for now
[13:26] Uttam : RM your MO getting better now
[13:26] Kathir : 17 18 is kind of normal is it?
[13:26] Uttam : again bouncing from -65 like yesterday
[13:27] r m : yes, folks won’t let it alone 🙂
[13:27] r m : -62 now
[13:27] RK : Shai nobody could have imagined inside day can do this much harm 🙂
[13:27] r m : lol
[13:28] Uttam : oh just a 3 pointer giving almost 50 points in NF 😉
[13:28] Shai : Intra : 50% qty trade Buy NF with sl of 7568 at 7590-91 tgt 7620/ 33
[13:28] r m : when father is huge, son has to be big as well 🙂
[13:29] Uttam : NF gone
[13:29] Uttam : short covering….
[13:29] Uttam : big sellers still
[13:30] Kathir : #shai alteast give 3 or 4 mins for us to buy or sell..this is not fair 🙂
[13:30] r m : BNF!
[13:30] Uttam : lol Kathir 🙂
[13:31] Uttam : again big red delta but NF goes higher
[13:31] Kathir : @uttam yes after reading shai’s msg and saw nf 7615 🙂
[13:32] Uttam : i placed a order for 7591 & it was 7596 but then it just blasted off…
[13:32] Kathir : WRB both nf bnf
[13:33] Uttam : yep
[13:33] Uttam : NF actually played out the 80% with perfection 😉
[13:33] RK : RM has finally done the RE on daily TF 🙂
[13:34] Vikkas : but u cant play the 80% generally if the previous day wasnt a balanced day ..and yesterday was a weird profile day
[13:34] r m : 🙂
[13:35] r m : https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T0F2YRXQT-F0JDRH69H/nifty16janfut.jpg
[13:35] Tejpreet : Some big fat ass sitting on 7600-20
[13:36] Uttam : yep Vikas that’s what Shai also told in the morning but looking at the chart now it was a perfect play, touched VAH in first 30 mins then went past in the next 30 mins, then met with res @ YVWAP@ 7523 before going past it & then resisted @ YPOC 7572 before blasting away again
[13:37] Uttam : now after VAH reversing back into VAH so break of 7570 will mean back to 7540/25?
[13:37] Vikkas : 🙂 ok
[13:38] Uttam : sellers not relenting, another 40k in NF
[13:39] RK : BNF has 50 points singles at either side..
[13:39] Uttam : that 40k seller neutralised
[13:39] Vikkas : @RK so does that mean more rotation in BNF ?
[13:41] Kathir : @RK nf also single prints from 7595 to 1617?
[13:42] RK : Vikkas we are stuck between two forces..should be rotation or done for the day..
[13:43] Vikkas : cool thanx RK 🙂
[13:47] Sushovan : Shai excees at top ?
[13:48] Uttam : breaking below 7570 not good for bulls
[13:49] Uttam : another WRB
[13:49] Ashish : Shai, lows again
[13:49] Ashish : volume is rising
[13:49] Kathir : aahaa
[13:50] Tejpreet : This is amazing OF zindabaad !
[13:50] Ashish : zindabad ji zindabad
[13:50] Rahul P : dalton zindabad
[13:50] Kathir : @tej that big guy doing wonders for you
[13:50] RK : 7470?
[13:50] Ashish : shai, lots of hugs to you brother
[13:51] RK : OTF making money from standing at both sides by supplying to retails..
[13:51] Tejpreet : @ Kathir all big guys leave crumbs only need to hurry to pick them before another big guy crushes you 😉
[13:51] Shai : haha
[13:52] Rahul P : wow, those reds got an exit
[13:52] Ashish : Shai, what could be next now?
[13:52] Rahul P : shai, can we say, we have a narrow 200 pt bracket range established here
[13:52] Rahul P : ?
[13:52] Shai : this is an imp low here roughly 7530/35 to se if buying comes
[13:53] Shai : almost both : (13:13) Shai :equal chances of 7630 or 7540 here – 7585
[13:53] Uttam : break of 7535/30 could be a fresh short Shai?
[13:53] Kathir : they selected second one first:
[13:53] Uttam : guess NF needs to make an outside bar, already made a new high so now set for a new low 😉
[13:55] Kathir : more force applied to bnf
[13:55] Uttam : could be a short here with SL 7575 Shai?
[13:56] Shai : no avoid
[13:56] Uttam : righto Shai
[13:57] Shai : 7535- 7580 not a new trade zone
[13:57] Shai : let them battle it
[13:57] Uttam : oh ok…
[13:57] Shai : below 7535 is a 20 point drop to 7515 and possibly 7500
[13:57] Uttam : below 7530 could test IBH? 7495
[13:57] Shai : question is whether 7535 is a pull back low or not now
[13:58] Vikkas : on 30 mins we have a n inverted hammer today on 30 mins
[13:58] Uttam : we will get to know that by next period?
[14:01] Shai : if held at close it is
[14:01] Shai : from now to close…
[14:01] Uttam : yes will be imp reference if it does hold?
[14:03] RK : Shai lowest close of this week is 7534..
[14:06] Rahul P : Shai, the stuck reds here got an exit….so what can we deduce from here ??
[14:13] Uttam : DPOC also @ 7540 Shai/RM?
[14:14] Vikkas : 7480 approx
[14:14] Vikkas : @uttam
[14:15] Sandip : vikas u expecting that today 7480?
[14:15] Uttam : it has not come up?
[14:15] RK : yday and today’s vwap at same place after such yo yo
[14:17] Vikkas : RK sahab good observation 🙂
[14:17] Uttam : khaya peeya kuch nahi….
[14:18] Uttam : we do have a tail @ highs today & have been trading above vwap so break of it could result in downside
[14:19] r m : yo-yo times 🙂 http://screencast.com/t/dVpsUlrbbgx
[14:20] Shai : trend up intra has been halted – again auction changing nature intraday
[14:21] Shai : looks like 7520- 7580 bracket now till close
[14:21] Rahul P : 14:06 Rahul P: Shai, the stuck reds here got an exit….so what can we deduce from here ??
[14:21] Shai : No they are at highs and added again today
[14:21] Uttam : we do have a excess @ high today Shai but is that not important as it is within yesterday’s range?
[14:22] Uttam : in fact excess made outside yesterday’s high
[14:23] Shai : excess there
[14:23] Sushovan : Shai what is blue line on each candle ?
[14:23] Shai : but largely inside day
[14:23] Vikkas : poc of that candle
[14:25] r m : vwap darshan
[14:26] Rahul P : rm….work for u….one wrb plz
[14:26] r m : @Rahul, man you want that promised land at 73XX? 🙂
[14:26] Rahul P : lol
[14:26] RK : RM why not? 🙂
[14:27] Rahul P : shai, any trades for NF ?
[14:27] r m : @RK, yeah 🙂
[14:27] r m : all the signs lead there!
[14:27] Kathir : @RK rahul wats today itself
[14:27] r m : 🙂
[14:27] RK : Kathir why not? 🙂
[14:28] r m : @Kathir, RK has lost patience with both bulls and bears now 🙂
[14:28] r m : too much trouser’s auction 😀
[14:29] RK : RM that’s perfect 🙂
[14:29] Kathir : yes RK anything can happen thats the word we use often
[14:33] RK : fasten your seat belts
[14:33] Rahul P : neutral extreme mangta
[14:34] Rahul P : rm, u listeneing ?
[14:34] r m : yessir!
[14:35] r m : hum to kuchh bhee maang sakte hain, dena to Shai ke haath mein hai 🙂
[14:35] Rahul P : start the pump plz, we need a wipe out….neutral extreme plz…
[14:37] Ashish : DAX -2.6% down
[14:37] Ashish : dow futures is loosing greenery
[14:38] Ashish : its going to be 80% both sides
[14:38] Shai : bears doig to bulls what bulls did yesterday
[14:39] Rahul P : shai, any trades ?
[14:39] Rahul P : scope for a neutral extreme close ??
[14:39] Ashish : Shai, what targets on downside now?
[14:40] Rahul P : our friend Alerto also quite today
[14:40] Uttam : poor guy must have got con-fused 😉
[14:41] Vikkas : so the inverted hammer on 30 mins played its part 😉
[14:41] Shai : 7473 still a supp
[14:41] Uttam : bulls not giving it up
[14:41] Uttam : getting back above VWAP could close @ Dh Shai?
[14:43] Sandeep : crazy moves
[14:43] RK : Alerto must be very angry today because Shai switched him off 🙂
[14:43] Shai : haha
[14:43] Sandeep : haha yes
[14:43] Shai : No positionals open RK now
[14:43] RK : I know Shai 🙂
[14:44] Sandip : shai is short covering happening yet?
[14:44] Shai : Not much Sandip
[14:44] RK : perfect timings from you to close the postions all this week though not taken all of them..Kudos 🙂
[14:44] Shai : these guys are playing the big 7450- 7620 range- buy low sell high
[14:45] Sameer : with brutal volatility 🙂
[14:45] RK : my guess is domestic biggies buying dips and FIIs using rise to add shorts..
[14:45] Shai : a nice sideways range half of next week will set us up very nicely for expiry
[14:45] Uttam : how much more will they short RK 😉
[14:46] RK : Uttam wrong question..how much more they will buy? 🙂
[14:46] Uttam : cos limit is on this side not that side?
[14:46] Uttam : hmmm
[14:47] RK : they will change the sides of table after sizeable move..
[14:47] RK : they have some number in their mind..till they get that FIIs will pres the pedal whatsoever the internal happens..
[14:49] Uttam : struggling to get past vwap. will today’s VA be important Shai along with the excess we made today for tom?
[14:49] Uttam : looks like we will be having overlapping value
[14:50] Uttam : combining of past 2 days could give a better idea?
[14:50] Uttam : rm 2-day composite pls
[14:51] r m : sure
[14:51] Uttam : thanks 🙂
[14:55] Uttam : yesterday we were heavy @ top so kind of balancing below it today I guess
[14:55] Uttam : plus yesterday we had a small tail @ bottom & today we have it at top
[14:55] Uttam : so do we have a bell curve?
[14:56] Ashish : Big volumes in USDINR
[14:56] Tejpreet : Till the bell is forming we can write the option and wait for vix to fall to 15 🙂
[14:57] r m : bell is forming in 7th to 14th NF
[14:57] r m : https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T0F2YRXQT-F0JE31FLJ/nf2days.jpg
[14:57] r m : https://files.slack.com/files-pri/T0F2YRXQT-F0JE35Z8W/nf_7th-14th.png
[15:03] Shai : nice 1
[15:03] Uttam : cool thanks RM
[15:03] r m : welcome
[15:04] Shai : vix is stuck at 18.73 but usdinr is overdrive
[15:04] RK : RM is making bell for last one week to show direction for rest of the year
[15:05] r m : lol
[15:07] r m : MO at -74
[15:07] Himanshu null : shai bulls have upper hand?
[15:07] Himanshu null : if close here?
[15:07] Uttam : inspite of rise from day low adv decline has been bad?
[15:08] Uttam : even yesterday it was 256:1248 something i think
[15:08] r m : mostly looks like index management by option writers
[15:09] Uttam : so overall pic is bad for bulls still
[15:09] r m : ably assisted by sector rotation
[15:09] r m : yes looks bad to me
[15:09] Uttam : +1
[15:09] r m : but I am mostly wrong 😀
[15:09] Uttam : lol
[15:09] Uttam : +1
[15:09] Uttam : 😉
[15:10] r m : 🙂
[15:10] Shai : No Himanshu neutral here
[15:10] Shai : bulls not doing enuff at highs and sellers persisting
[15:10] Rahul P : shai, I am holding shorts from top….should I book or carry fwd ?
[15:11] Shai : book
[15:11] Rahul P : ok, thanks
[15:11] Shai : wth a sl of 7495 tom , feel we go to 7602 again tom
[15:19] Himanshu null : thanks Shai
[15:21] r m : Results tomorrow – HUL
[15:21] Vikkas : RM only one major result tomo sir
[15:21] Kathir : @RK one more close near 7535 range?
[15:22] r m : there is ZEE also from Nifty stocks if anybody trades that 🙂
[15:22] Vikkas : cool thanx rm 🙂
[15:23] Kathir : @my first stock in my stock market life : RM
[15:24] r m : ok
[15:24] Rahul P : the greens since last two 30 mins bar – can they be the reds from top exiting ?
[15:24] r m : Indian Hotels, Network18, NIIT Tech also some more known names tomorrow
[15:25] r m : Pipavav defence too
[15:25] Uttam : Cairn closing strongly today, Shai pls do have a look if good buying happening there?
[15:26] Janak : shai bn 15500 pe can be bought?
[15:26] Shai : avoid
[15:27] Shai : MO still at -60?
[15:27] Janak : avoid not buying ? 😉
[15:27] Janak : BN has to do 320
[15:27] Kathir : -74 now
[15:28] Shai : Janak take him up first, let’s fatten him a bit
[15:28] Uttam : see you all 🙂 have a nice evening
[15:28] r m : Bye Uttam
[15:28] Uttam : 🙂
[15:29] r m : MO at -72
[15:29] Shai : thanks RM
[15:29] r m : welcome 🙂
[15:29] Janak : 16kce is a good sell
[15:30] Shai : inside day
[15:30] Shai : Bye all
[15:30] Shanmugasubramanian : bye all
[15:30] Jitender : bye all
[15:30] Shai : Have a nice evening
[15:30] Vikkas : bye all ..happy evening
[15:30] Ashish : Thanks and bye all
[15:30] Tejpreet : Bye All.
[15:30] Porus : bye all
[15:30] r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great evening!
[15:30] r m : @Janak, concentrate on crude man, let nse bulls survive on oxygen meanwhile 🙂
[15:31] Kathir : results calender
[15:31] Sameer : khel khatam…paisa hazam
[15:31] Kathir : http://www.nseindia.com/corporates/corporateHome.html?id=eqResultCalendar
[15:32] Kathir : thanks and bye all
[15:32] Sameer : @shai why did I not join vtrender earlier despite following shai on twitter for last one year 🙁
[15:35] Arvind : all
[15:35] Arvind : bye