OrderFlow charts and Notes 14/10/15

[08:50]   Moses : GM r m
[08:50]   r m : Good Morning folks!
[08:50]   r m : Hi Moses
[08:50]   r m : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-14th-oct-2/
[08:50]   r m : http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-and-notes-131015/
[08:51]   r m : http://vtrender.com/consolidated-orderflow-131015/
[08:51]   r m : Nifty OCT Future levels | KRA 8248 | Hypo1 above 8154➜8177➜8208 SL 8121 | Hypo2 below 8107➜8083➜8048 SL 8155
[08:51]   r m : Banknifty OCT Future levels | KRA 17820 | Hypo1 above 17665➜17717➜17805 SL 17560 | Hypo2 below 17530➜17477➜17395 SL 17630
[08:55]   Shai : GM all
[08:55]   r m : WPI data at 12:00 hrs
[08:55]   Sandeep69 : gm all
[08:56]   r m : Results tomorrow – LICHSGFIN, DBC, Mindtree
[09:02]   Anay : GM All
[09:03]   Uttam : GM Everyone 🙂
[09:07]   Tejpreet : GM All.
[09:08]   Augustin : GM all
[09:11]   Shai : BNF was in a neutral center yesterday
[09:12]   Shai : still balancing in last week’s range made on Mon and tues in the 3-1-3
[09:12]   Augustin : @Shai – how do you see the Nifty premarket opening
[09:12]   Shai : possibility of a trend day is very high and we should remain alert to it
[09:14]   Sharad : GM all
[09:14]   Shai : Augustin 8140 -46 is ref line here for bulls in F
[09:14]   Augustin : Ok
[09:16]   Ashish : GM all
[09:17]   Sandeep69 : charts ?
[09:18]   Shai : updating- a min more
[09:18]   r m : O=L in both so far
[09:18]   Sankar : GM RM, Shai and everyone 🙂
[09:19]   r m : Hi Sankar 🙂
[09:19]   Sandeep69 : open and low same in nf and bnf
[09:20]   RK : GM Shai,RM and all
[09:20]   RK : Kind of day where you have to keep tight SL for longs but liberal stops for shorts 🙂
[09:20]   r m : Hi RK 🙂
[09:21]   r m : very low volumes in first 5 minutes, OTF on long leave 🙂
[09:21]   Bhagya : sold nifty fut 8130 stoploss 8151
[09:21]   Bhagya : bought 8100 puts too with above levels on nifty futures
[09:23]   Shai : OPen in range and value- vol is not showing OTF yet
[09:26]   Sankar : Shai, for the weekly put, we can now place the original Sl and tgts?
[09:30]   Shai : yes 71 and 128- we will hold that
[09:31]   Shai : Looking for an exit in the NF overnight longs
[09:32]   Augustin : @Shai – chances of down trend day?
[09:33]   Shai : no- can’t see a trend day yet
[09:33]   Rahul P : why exit ???? do u see weakness ??
[09:33]   Shai : no OTF
[09:33]   Augustin : Ok. IB would give the direction?
[09:33]   Uttam : it has still not touched yesterday POC @ 8136
[09:34]   Shai : Yes Rahul- late longs have not taken the BTST abv VAH
[09:34]   Shai : Maybe the mkt will wait for that data which RM pointed out – but it is a non event still
[09:35]   Augustin : Ok
[09:39]   Sandeep69 : shai no reds on daily of till now
[09:40]   Shai : yes Sandeep- some neutralisation
[09:41]   Shai : BNF into 80%
[09:42]   Rahul P : nf open drive kara do plz 🙂
[09:43]   Shai : Buy BNF 17595 sl of 17535 tgt 17655
[09:45]   Shai : Rahul when vol is below the sloping blue indicator in vol pane, you will not get a drive in 9/10
[09:57]   R Goel : shai i guess vol has to remain above the blue line rgt
[09:57]   R Goel : since we susually get a spike at some time and then it fades away
[09:58]   R Goel : how do we do that ?
[09:59]   Shai : Does not have to stay abv – the blue line is historical vol of the 5 min based on the past 5 days and for currrent time
[09:59]   Shai : so it tells us if vol is in the move or not at current time
[10:00]   Shai : see it is higher at open and slides lower- so it anticpates higher vols at open than here at 10.00
[10:00]   Shai : Exit the Overnight NF longs at cmp
[10:00]   R Goel : hm okay
[10:10]   Himanshu null : pe still hold rite? I reentered today
[10:10]   Shai : yes
[10:10]   Shai : BNF looking better for longs still
[10:11]   Mihir : @ shai: why we cut Nifty Long position?
[10:12]   Mihir : 8100 PE and 8000 PE both are going down even market is marginal down
[10:25]   OS : GM all
[10:26]   Janak : shai HLL is going down today? can buy 780/800 pe?
[10:29]   Shai : 17645
[10:30]   Shai : Mihir there is no confirmation in NF here- we may do a intra long abv 8154 with sl of 8135 for the same tgt 8180
[10:31]   Shai : Janak use tab 2 for all stock queries, you don’t want to piss RM off 🙂
[10:32]   r m : @Shai, sab mile huye hain jee 🙂
[10:32]   Shai : Move sl of BNF long trade to cost – 17595 : 09:43 Shai : (09:43) Shai :Buy BNF 17595 sl of 17535 tgt 17655
[10:43]   Shai : RM 🙂
[10:43]   Shai : NF in no man’s boat now – away from land 🙂
[10:44]   RK : soon it will board in summarine Shai 🙂
[10:44]   RK : *submarine
[10:45]   Shai : haha
[10:45]   Himanshu null : underwater!!
[10:46]   Rahul P : some otf action ongoing in nf ??
[10:54]   Himanshu null : bnf sl hit, however can we still hold with original sl?
[10:59]   Uttam : Shai view on Ultra today, fresh buying there?
[11:12]   Shai : BNF in value area – no bias here if you hold with original sl it has a 50/ 50 bias as the expected upmove went to 17645 though it did not meet our obj
[11:18]   Gangesh : i have taken exit at 630
[11:20]   OS : BNF again CLOSED with loss of 5700
[11:21]   Shai : sl was put at cost, how didyou make a loss?
[11:22]   Shai : Good exit Gangesh
[11:22]   Rahul P : shai, do u see the otf defending today’s tail in nf ??
[11:23]   Shai : @Rahul there is no OTF
[11:24]   Tejpreet : Shai IT results in general have failed to cheer the market , taking the logic of BN moving against IT …BN can be brought in any panic with SL .
[11:25]   Shai : yes conf for trend is move abv FA point
[11:25]   OS : Entered late at 17601.25 & Exit @ 17582.3
[11:25]   Tejpreet : Thanks Shai.
[11:25]   OS : 12 lots @ 18.95 pts = 5685/-
[11:26]   Shai : but f 17510 goes may drop
[11:27]   Himanshu null : os 20 pts loss in bn is not High. if u are afraid then reduce position size
[11:27]   Shai : OS, try to follow the levels we mention, we are very specific here
[11:27]   OS : I think it is NOT suiting me
[11:28]   Tejpreet : With BN position size is the key !
[11:29]   OS : Last time I followed levels strickly but still had to book over 20K loss
[11:29]   OS : Today again
[11:30]   RK : Tej yes BNF position is like going to shopping with Mrs..smaller the vallet smaller the loss 🙂
[11:30]   r m : lol
[11:30]   Tejpreet : Hahaha RK
[11:30]   RK : OS its a rotation mkt and losses are part of the game..but pls ensure dont miss the trend which is just around the corner
[11:31]   Tejpreet : OS try BN option with Shai lvl then small SL will work futures are wildcat !
[11:31]   RK : convictional break of 17500 or 17700 will give us 200 min
[11:33]   OS : Will just keep watching for few days.
[11:33]   Shankar T : OS- you did not trade yesterday? don’t pick and choose trades. I trade 20 lots on each call and from past 15 days I am up 2.5L
[11:34]   OS : Yea I think Options are best suited
[11:34]   OS : Yesterday I did not
[11:34]   Tejpreet : Cool Shankar !
[11:34]   RK : Shankar T 20 lots!..bravo 🙂
[11:35]   RK : RM when should we move from 1-2 tukka trades levels to 20 lots league? 🙂
[11:36]   r m : 🙂
[11:36]   Shankar T : Thanks – yes even stocks and NF- very good service vtrender
[11:37]   r m : I am sure that by year 2100 when I am 143 years, I’ll move to 20 lots 🙂
[11:37]   Tejpreet : By then SEBI would have made BN lot size 1000!
[11:37]   RK : Shankar T yes..serious money can be made from Shai’s stock levels..if you are capable of staking lots then his stock levels can do very good to you
[11:38]   RK : RM lol..
[11:39]   r m : @Tejpreet, then will have to sing “dil ke armaan sebi ke saath bah gaye” 😀
[11:39]   Tejpreet : lol
[11:40]   Hari : Pathetic volumes in BNF today
[11:42]   Hari : It is said that there will be lot of boring days prior to a bull market
[11:43]   Haresh A : I also trade the stock levels here on T+5 and then carry – very good results I have in 2 months now
[11:43]   r m : average volumes are about 90-95% of previous 20 day’s volumes, so the series so far is showing low volumes
[11:45]   Shai : @Shankar , OS – try not to put your profits or losses in cash here- it does not help but feel free to share your views
[11:45]   OS : OK
[11:45]   Shai : we are happy when you make money and sad when you don’t, but putting numbers here does not help someone else
[11:46]   OS : Noted
[11:46]   Shai : instead put an index view or a stock – it can benefit some 1
[11:48]   RK : my 2 cents if someone dont want or cant pick up each trade and choosy on trades, then set some criteria like, 1. will pick trades on trend direction 2. will pick only abv vwap/IBH or below IBL/vwap 3. will not pick trade before IB on slow volume or rotational days something like this..set a filter..it will certainly help
[11:50]   Himanshu null : thanks RK
[11:50]   Tejpreet : Another thing look at the trading range …I mean we are now looking for trending move in index …so one can take bigger position as and when trigger comes from Shai on the trend day.
[11:51]   Rahul P : wpi data coming up in 9 mins
[11:51]   Rahul P : hopefuly this should lift up the volume
[11:51]   Tejpreet : Maybe it can wake up the OTF .
[11:53]   Shai : Nice RK
[11:54]   RK : thanks Shai 🙂
[11:54]   RK : and Sad news for you Shai 🙂 https://twitter.com/abbasmamu/status/654176965012811776
[11:55]   Shai : oh
[11:55]   RK : Yeah just checked calender too
[11:56]   Shai : I’m going to be out from the second week of dec for 2 weeks I think
[11:56]   RK : great! have nice time 🙂
[11:56]   Shai : but will be wroking on that expiry and balnce on mobile
[11:57]   RK : fine
[11:57]   Shai : thanks- will update the room when things finalise
[11:57]   Shai : my yearly break
[11:58]   RK : sure
[11:58]   Uttam : Great
[11:58]   RK : am seriously planning a trip to Dehradun this time to freeze out in Dec 🙂
[11:59]   Anay : I would be freezing in Jan in Ladakh 😀
[11:59]   Shai : ah dehradun- there is some1 more famous there than the name of the city
[11:59]   RK : Yes :)..he has been sending invites but this time I should honour those 🙂
[11:59]   Mukesh : Ladakh is awesome …
[12:00]   RK : Anay you just had a trip there right?
[12:00]   r m : welcome RK though difficult to freeze in 10-25 degree celcius range 🙂
[12:00]   RK : RM for the guys who gets fried at 40-45, 10-25 is awesome climate 🙂
[12:01]   Mukesh : RK guidelines are good …
[12:01]   Hari : IIP data has come?
[12:02]   RK : Hari seems no
[12:02]   RK : Mukesh cool 🙂
[12:03]   Rahul P : wpi -4.54% YoY basis
[12:03]   Shai : September WPI at -4.54%
[12:03]   Shai : no vol change
[12:04]   Shai : still below the blue line
[12:04]   r m : expectation -4.43%, RR can breathe easy now 🙂
[12:04]   r m : food inflation is 0.69%
[12:07]   Hari : Europe and US futures flattish, NF should rest at least 816 if 8110 is protected IMHO
[12:07]   Hari : 8160
[12:07]   RK : mkt has gone to deep grinding even my NEST gone to white ticks.red or green colouring code is not working for some time now but prices are ticking 🙂
[12:07]   Bhagya : Today the IB range has been too small. Yesterday whole day range in both nifty and bank nifty was too small. About 70 points on nifty and 150 points on bank nifty. So big move and big day chances are very high. However since we are seeing Open-low on both Nifty and bank Nifty, break of that will be very bad for bulls. I will sell heavily if we break 8110 on nifty and 17500 on bank nifty as I see free fall. Till then bulls can have a breather.
[12:08]   r m : @RK, NEST must have given back the colors in protest against Modi Govt 😀
[12:08]   RK : RM oh following trend :))
[12:08]   r m : lol
[12:13]   Uttam : lol RM
[12:20]   Varun : shai cn u post a screen shot for daily of since 5th
[12:21]   Janak : i just came back in and read someone made a huge loss today on shai’s call of bnf – sorry to hear that – but it was around 640-45 after the call was generated – wasn’t it? if entered at the right time and right moment – shai’s calls are prone not to fail
[12:21]   Janak : even yesterday’s bnf call was worth 90 pts in profit
[12:22]   Janak : if taken in time
[12:22]   Janak : and those holding yesterday’s pes (including me) will see that those will hit the tgt in all probability
[12:23]   Uttam : NF getting into the singles of morning, not a good sign for bulls?
[12:24]   Shai : @Varun daily Orderflow?
[12:24]   Uttam : volumes spike
[12:24]   Uttam : volume bar going above the blue line for the first time today?
[12:25]   Hari : all dips are getting bought
[12:25]   Uttam : same in BNF also, volume spike with vols going above the blue line
[12:28]   Shai : @Janak 🙂
[12:28]   Janak : shai riding a sold-ce also on bn pink 🙂
[12:28]   Shai : For the info of all, Janak has been with us from day 1 in trading room – veteran now 🙂
[12:28]   Varun : ya shai
[12:29]   Janak : ha ha – me and rm wud call shai an ATM-Call-machine – take his calls and mint money 😉
[12:30]   Janak : shai bn spot17500 has some significance?
[12:31]   Janak : that hypo F level is around that only
[12:31]   Janak : i just saw
[12:32]   Shai : NF daily OF- http://screencast.com/t/DgQuqNRCi9
[12:32]   Ashish : Europe opens red
[12:32]   Bhagya : added to shorts on nifty and also sold bank nifty at 17570
[12:32]   Shai : yes 17510- 530 critcal level- a close below that opens up 300 points
[12:32]   Varun : thnaks
[12:32]   Varun : shai
[12:33]   Janak : ok
[12:33]   RK : Bhagya holding the mkt with shorts 🙂
[12:34]   Janak : bhagya’s bhagya(luck) will rub off with us all 🙂
[12:34]   RK : Welcome back Janak 🙂
[12:34]   Janak : hi RK – how is it going?
[12:34]   RK : Great Janak as usual 🙂
[12:35]   Bhagya : below 8110 on nifty futures one can go to movie and close all terminal and screen
[12:36]   Janak : Hypo2 below 17530➜17477➜17395 SL 17630
[12:43]   Shai : yes Bhagya 8108 is yesterday buyer and once he is broken we should drop to 8083/ 8048
[12:44]   Shai : 43L in vol so far with less than 3 hours left- will make it as one of the poorer sessions
[12:45]   Hari : Got bored and checked the world market, oops Brazil is down by 4% and Nikkei 2%, omnious signs
[12:46]   Uttam : Shai do we keep as sell below 8107 or wait for acceptance as could have a false break also/
[12:47]   RK : Uttam I feel we can place the order there as hypo also states the same
[12:48]   Uttam : yep RK, will go for small qty & see how it goes once it triggers
[12:56]   Janak : this is rm’s area? stock-wale doosre room e? bahut na-insaafi he ye 🙂
[12:57]   Bhagya : more time market takes to break 8110 on nifty futures, bigger, sharper, deeper and faster will be the fall. Bulls beware
[12:57]   Janak : yes but an outside chance still that NF will go back to 8150 to frustrate shorts
[13:00]   r m : @Janak, water-tight compartment theory 🙂
[13:00]   Hari : Seems bulls are doing a bad job
[13:00]   Bhagya : but we will not get frustrated….. Holding tight… SELL RIGHT, SIT TIGHT
[13:01]   Janak : rm is the biggest bear around 🙂
[13:02]   r m : lol
[13:03]   Janak : rm below 500 – 200 will come – help man – diall all the nos. u can 🙂
[13:04]   r m : @Janak, pehle aniruddh sethi ka karein? 🙂
[13:06]   Janak : ha ha ha
[13:07]   Janak : sethi guy is the entertainer around
[13:07]   Tejpreet : Sethi the laxman rekha baba of stock market 🙂
[13:07]   r m : lol
[13:08]   r m : no buyers turned up this time in NF
[13:09]   r m : aa gaye!
[13:09]   Rahul P : robos active to defend day’s low
[13:09]   r m : ok
[13:09]   Janak : wait rm till 8100 spot is taken out convincingly – u cant rule out buyers
[13:10]   Anay : @Shai can you broaden the 5 min and 30 min OF charts to include a couple more digits?
[13:10]   Janak : sethi guy is right many times – i took his call of tcd pe buy yesterday and minted money this morning
[13:10]   Janak : free call of tcs
[13:10]   Janak : 🙂
[13:10]   Varun : anay just boiugh 😉
[13:10]   Varun : bought
[13:10]   Anay : lol
[13:11]   Tejpreet : Janak he gives so many calls bound to get some right !
[13:11]   Anay : @Janak even a broken clock is right twice a day 🙂
[13:11]   Anay : Thanks 🙂
[13:12]   Anay : yest buyer at 8109 resurfaced? 🙂
[13:12]   Shai : vol spike and buyer at 8108
[13:13]   Janak : ha ha anay – well said
[13:13]   Janak : but i like his many things – analysis is good
[13:14]   Shai : Below 8106 should give 8087 if he fails
[13:14]   Shai : and vwap if he suceeds
[13:14]   Anay : 🙂
[13:14]   Varun : seems a fund does it everyday to play a big sell/nuy order at sd3
[13:15]   Shai : still iffy volume for a tade
[13:16]   RK : something tells me globex takes a U turn from today..we may not see yday highs of many indices for some time..# huge biased mind # let it not get jinxed 🙂
[13:16]   Augustin : BNF Hypo sell active?
[13:17]   Shai : no don’t seel
[13:17]   Shai : sell
[13:17]   Augustin : Ok
[13:19]   Himanshu null : bnf the wild one
[13:20]   Janak : that dreaded thing call 8100 spot acting again 🙁
[13:20]   Janak : rm ye diwar kis cement se bani hei 😉
[13:20]   Janak : sethi cement to nahi 😉
[13:20]   r m : normal day cement se (NDC) 🙂
[13:20]   Janak : lol
[13:22]   Uttam : Shai vols on BNF increasing? last few bars has it crossing the blue line consistently?
[13:23]   Augustin : More buyers in NF?
[13:24]   Shai : still locals in NF nly that 8108 was agressive
[13:25]   Augustin : Ok
[13:25]   Anay : 8108 was a fast local to vwap 😀
[13:25]   r m : lol
[13:25]   Shai : BNF mentioned to avoid that sell below as there was no new selling below 530 – only strays
[13:25]   Varun : aapka station abhi aaya nahin hain
[13:25]   Varun : @anay
[13:25]   Anay : Yes. Still in train 😉
[13:25]   Shai : 🙂
[13:26]   Varun : load stuff at vwap
[13:26]   Varun : and u get off at day high
[13:26]   RK : Man bhagya sends it down..Anay catches it and throw it up..what are we supposed to do then? 🙂
[13:26]   r m : @Varun, ye poora luggage journey ke shuru mein saath le kar chalte hain 🙂
[13:26]   Himanshu null : shai bnf buy possible??
[13:27]   Janak : @RK swap the places of b and a – bas fir dekho 🙂
[13:27]   r m : @RK, zzzzz – only activity which does not lose money on a normal day 😀
[13:27]   Shai : BNf go with 50% qty for 17585610 sl of 17520 cmp 17555
[13:27]   Shai : 17585/ 17610
[13:27]   RK : Janak we are lazy..cant act such fast 🙂
[13:28]   Himanshu null : thanks Shai
[13:28]   RK : RM seems so 🙂
[13:28]   Varun : i meant the same rm, saaman utaro vwap pe. khud utro high pe
[13:30]   r m : har cheez ki had hoti hai – too much balance! http://screencast.com/t/41tPrQ2Vet
[13:31]   Uttam : wow so are we getting an Inside bar in both NF & BNF? BNF OL is 17500 but it is almost a IB
[13:32]   r m : Yep, only open was below PDL
[13:32]   Tejpreet : vwap done in both 😉
[13:33]   Anay : offloaded some samaan at ypoc 😀
[13:33]   r m : 🙂
[13:34]   Varun : And this is how we roll 🙂
[13:34]   Himanshu null : amazing call on bnf Shai
[13:34]   RK : snail roll 🙂
[13:35]   Bhagya : exited all shorts
[13:35]   Anay : shorts? we were all long here 🙂
[13:36]   r m : single prints gone, now poverty at both ends 🙂
[13:36]   Uttam : in NF right RM> BNF single prints still there at bottom
[13:37]   r m : yes
[13:37]   Anay : which will be an FA? at h or l? janane ke liye rukiye 3.30 tak 😀
[13:37]   RK : buyers finally showing up above VWAP
[13:38]   r m : today it appeared as if Ravi Shastri quit directorship of team india and begun trading nifty 🙂
[13:38]   Anay : 😀
[13:38]   Anay : Rohit Sharma trades Nifty though 😛
[13:39]   r m : Rohit should shift to eicher motors 🙂
[13:40]   Shai : NF can do 8153
[13:41]   Himanshu null : shai nifty pe still hold rite
[13:44]   Shai : Buy NF 8132 sl of 8112 tgt 8153/ 8168- trade a 50% size
[13:51]   Shai : Yes Himanshu we hold that as it is a weekly chart- No change in the weekly play yet
[13:51]   Shai : intra day we will keep bobbing around 20- 30 points making a balance
[13:51]   Janak : shai POC in both nf/bn acting as a supply?
[13:51]   Shai : vah is
[13:52]   Janak : 8135/592
[13:56]   Shai : But BNf no new selling below VAL
[13:57]   Shai : It seems all traders are busy shopping on flipkart, amazon and snapdeal- No vols in the mkt
[13:57]   Shai : 58 L with 90 mins to go
[13:57]   Tejpreet : And the OTF are busy punting on SA-IND match !
[13:57]   Shai : 🙂
[13:58]   r m : they will increase value of flikpkart and then buy the shares in IPO at those inflated prices 🙂
[13:58]   RK : Tej why should they bet there..results are now a days almost one sided 🙂
[13:58]   Tejpreet : The more the reason to bet !
[13:58]   r m : betting on certainty Tejpreet? 🙂
[13:59]   RK : 🙂
[13:59]   Tejpreet : Betting on certainity for an uncertain result today.
[13:59]   r m : 🙂
[14:00]   Rahul P : with an inside day today, tmrw’s day seems set for a nice trend
[14:01]   Tejpreet : Reminds of wolf story ….nobody beleives in him when he finally comes .
[14:01]   r m : @Rahul, provided that Bhagya or Anay let it remain an inside day 🙂
[14:01]   r m : @Tejpreet, you mean balance = wolf’s visit anticipation 🙂
[14:02]   Tejpreet : 😉
[14:02]   Janak : looks like mkt is rotating betn 8150-8100
[14:03]   Anay : it’s not in my Bhagya to move the market 😉
[14:04]   r m : we hope that day comes soon- then I’ll become an inside trader 🙂
[14:05]   Hari : shai, should we exit NF longs partially
[14:05]   Hari : or wait for 8153
[14:08]   Shai : Hari can at vah / 8144
[14:09]   Anay : isn’t yvah 8148?
[14:09]   Hari : Ooops missed it Shai, expecting a revisit of 8144?
[14:13]   Shai : 8144
[14:14]   Shai : hope we dont spike at close today
[14:15]   RK : yes 🙁
[14:15]   Rahul P : big nos on seller side
[14:15]   Shai : we should have a nice trend day from here coming
[14:15]   Kiran : spike at vwap
[14:15]   Rahul P : seems a last ditched effort
[14:15]   Sandeep69 : shai your bias as of now on the long or short ?
[14:15]   RK : 2.75 L in 5 min
[14:16]   Uttam : that too at VWAP
[14:16]   Rahul P : that fellow has barely managed to move the auction price
[14:16]   RK : yday 8109 booked 🙂
[14:17]   Shai : Sandeep I’m marginally short for a revisist to 8088 to take out than anomaly and possibly a quick look at 8048 whilst we do that intra day
[14:17]   RK : you guys made him fedup with no commitment
[14:17]   Sandeep69 : 🙂
[14:18]   Shai : positionally that is
[14:19]   Kiran : shai if we see there is big move pending any options CE and PE both ?
[14:19]   Kiran : may be nov ?
[14:19]   Kiran : NOV month.
[14:20]   Kiran : sellers at vAP NF n BNF
[14:20]   Shai : make an exit in the NF long trade near 8128/ 30 – enter limit to cover
[14:21]   Shai : yes sellers but overall vols seem to suggest still scalping
[14:23]   Gangesh : I AGAIN TAKEN AN EXIT TO 8143
[14:25]   Tejpreet : Shai can you give levels for 8200 put.
[14:25]   RK : Gangesh nice
[14:26]   Janak : US mkt reluctantly fell yday- will it oblige today?
[14:28]   Shai : 8200 weekly sl of 91 tgt 169
[14:29]   Tejpreet : Thanks Shai.
[14:30]   Shai : Nf exited
[14:30]   Uttam : yep exited @ 8128
[14:31]   Shai : hopefully a drive tom near open if we don’t get a spike
[14:31]   Rahul P : upside or downside ?
[14:33]   Shai : in directin of BNF
[14:34]   Shai : 🙂
[14:35]   Janak : blame it on TCS poor result – they are doing index management here by keeping BNF up
[14:35]   RK : and what is the direction of BNF? :))
[14:36]   RK : traces of spike boys here..somebody close the gates to them..if they spike it up now..it’ll be a spoiled show
[14:36]   Rahul P : that 276k red in toruble
[14:36]   Rahul P : if he runs for cover, we have a spike
[14:36]   Rahul P : *trouble
[14:36]   Anay : Tired of this balanception! 😀
[14:36]   RK : Rahul seems that’s a cover order as it didnt move price down
[14:37]   RK : Anay tired of counting ? 🙂
[14:38]   Anay : lol
[14:40]   r m : we should not be too hopeful, maybe nifty will observe a 20 point day tomorrow – ininside day 😀
[14:40]   Rahul P : lol
[14:40]   Janak : this the 3rd attempt to clear 17600 in last 60 min
[14:41]   Janak : all 3 failed so far including this one – or it seems so
[14:42]   RK : RM lowest of 2015 is 40 points
[14:42]   RK : so you wanna break that record 🙂
[14:43]   r m : lol
[14:44]   Uttam : we may get a gap bigger than today’s range tom to start with guys 😉
[14:45]   r m : yes Uttam, that is the main worry 🙂
[14:45]   Janak : this “may”has a bagful of possibilities Uttam – i may become the chief adviser of NM tom 😉
[14:46]   r m : @Janak, 18hr working day mubarak ho 🙂
[14:46]   Janak : ha ha ha
[14:47]   Uttam : yes Janak true that…
[14:48]   Janak : just joking buddy – yeah looking at the way they are managing indexes – if US is slightly positive tonight – tom they may run away with the mkt towards 8300
[14:48]   Bhagya : do we have the chance of last 30-45 minutes move which will take care of the boring move for the whole day?
[14:49]   Janak : chances of that ove not happening betn. 3 to 32 are zero
[14:49]   Janak : 3 to 3.20
[14:51]   Janak : if bollinger + macd + stochastic indications also can’t move the mkt down then u know that rm is standing there as a buyer with dehradoon’s banks as the funds ;-
[14:53]   Anay : @rm looking for true data subscription in a few months. will mail you for some queries 😉
[14:54]   r m : sure
[14:56]   Shai : @Bhagya if we don’t spike now then chances of a trend day tom are better
[14:56]   Kiran : shai last three days BNF day TF sellers seems from top to todays POC.
[14:57]   Hari : Shai, then it makes sense to build position today, if there is no spike
[14:57]   Shai : yes and single in TPO at top
[14:58]   Shai : @Hari yes but these vols of today are low conviction, at open drive tom we should get institutions
[14:58]   Jay null : shai everyone wants to know trend tomo in which direction, so that c/fposition can be decided:)
[14:59]   r m : An inside neutro-normal day says “NO TREND” 🙂
[15:00]   Sankar : Shai, got disconnected. Haven’t seen any post about Options in twitter. Assuming we will be carrying the 8100 PE weekly call with same SL?
[15:00]   Sankar : sorry if question was already made many times today 🙂
[15:00]   Shai : trend day from here can do 8048 or 8248 again – bia salmost equal – better to go with open tomorrow
[15:01]   Shai : bias almost equal for a new position**
[15:01]   Shai : Yes Sankar
[15:01]   RK : its very rare that even stocks have back to back narrow range days..Its ok with Indices..my watchlist yday had 12/18 with range <1.5% which is rare and qualifies for trend day next day.but today again 12 to 13 out of 18 with <1.5% range..either it will whip in a big way which I doubt because it has been butchering for a month now..so all technicals suggest trend down tmw..but all said that expected things never happen here 🙂
[15:02]   Shai : nothing has changed today o postnl – it is the same 8040- 46 zone I was mentioning about yesterday
[15:02]   Shai : 8140- 46**
[15:02]   Shai : ok RK Thanks and noted
[15:03]   r m : biggies read RKs note and started dumping Nifty 🙂
[15:04]   Shai : haha
[15:04]   RK : RM spike down is perfectly welcome but no opposite 🙂
[15:04]   r m : lol
[15:04]   Sankar : Tx Shai 🙂
[15:07]   Bhagya : today’s nifty futures range is 38 points. So pressure building up inside the cooker, break out will come tommorow. Below 8094 break down or above 8162 break up?
[15:08]   r m : An obese NF may jog in Shai’s lawns between 8048-8248 tomorrow 🙂
[15:08]   r m : http://screencast.com/t/Fa8nPuBDT
[15:09]   r m : P.S. RK plans to kidnap her and seek ransom at 7950 🙂
[15:09]   Sankar : Just read the announcement section, RK’s post. I completely agree with RK on that. When I started here, I use to take all trades blindly posted here. Except a week, all other weeks were +ve. But I get very tired EOD. Most of us pick trading as profession, bcoz of balance we get between work and personal life. What is the point in making it so stressfull. Then I realised, the swing trades by Shai suited me very well. Later adding KRA to it, I never thought about my positions after market.
[15:10]   Shai : yes Bhagya – better t trade exit of value and range tom
[15:10]   RK : RM all in dream now 🙂
[15:10]   r m : lol
[15:10]   Sankar : my 2 cents is, Shai is helpful in sharing with us his view on intraday/positional all views. Atleast we should do some work on finding what suits us and pick that up :). I may be wrong, but this is just my journey with vtrender until now.
[15:11]   RK : Sankar we can certainly take all the trades blindly..but important point is “all” the trades..If we pick all trades from Shai then no worry at all..but when we go choosy means then we need to decide what to choose
[15:12]   RK : +1 //(15:10) Sankar :my 2 cents is, Shai is helpful in sharing with us his view on intraday/positional all views. Atleast we should do some work on finding what suits us and pick that up :). I may be wrong, but this is just my journey with vtrender until now.//
[15:15]   Sankar : Yes RK picking all trades was definitely +ve as I mentioned. my live experience on first month. except a week, all others were +ve.
[15:15]   Hari : @sankar, can you please let me know where is the annoucement section, are you referring to the bubble in red with exclamatory mark?
[15:16]   Sankar : The Red/Brown exclaimtry mark (tab) next to this chat window.
[15:16]   RK : to be practical, one cannot all trades..sometimes even one loss trade will keep you away from next trade and which will mostly pour profits..so one needs to really have stamina to trade all trades..:)
[15:16]   RK : *cannot do
[15:17]   Sankar : Sometimes I get disconnected here, and when I join back, chats usually goes away. So I always check that tab, as RM/Shai post all important ones there.
[15:17]   Sankar : RK, it took me 1 month to learn that 😀
[15:17]   Sankar : u shud have told me that, when I joined itself.
[15:17]   r m : lol
[15:18]   r m : let RK pay some fine and let us reach a compromise (Chai-samosa) 🙂
[15:18]   Sankar : 😉
[15:18]   RK : Sankar I learnt this hard lesson by trading crude oil..2 trades with just 20-40 loss kept me away and next trade ran for 300 points..it happened many times :))
[15:19]   Sankar : lol.
[15:20]   r m : @Sankar, today’s POC is formed in that earlier KRA area!
[15:20]   Janak : RK – if u want even a harder way – trade silver 🙂
[15:20]   Sankar : 8130.. few more days, I will change my vehicle number to 8130 and bang it against wall.
[15:20]   Sankar : I hate that number.
[15:20]   Janak : in last 1 hr it fell 500 points
[15:21]   Sankar : its been a week.. hope NF doesn’t stay within 8100-8200 till expiry..
[15:21]   r m : @Sankar, LOL that is why it is not leaving us, just fall in love with 8130 and it will fly away 🙂
[15:21]   Sankar : I luv 8130 from this second..
[15:21]   r m : 😀
[15:22]   Shai : advsing an exit in the 8100 pe here at 93-94 , We will trade a fresh bias tomorrow(safety first)
[15:23]   Sankar : ok
[15:23]   RK : Janak Silver,crude traded enough but gaveup as got very tired..I was working then 🙂
[15:25]   Janak : the biggest loss this room has seen is shai stopping commodity tips – that man can make u a millionaire overnight just with crude tips
[15:26]   Janak : certain don from dehradoon was responsible for that 🙂
[15:26]   r m : @Janak, that is why he stopped, he wants you to get rich slowly 🙂
[15:26]   Janak : yeah but i will make 2 M only instead of 5 weekly
[15:26]   Janak : aur kya bacche ki jaan……
[15:27]   r m : thode se santhosh karna seekho bhai 🙂
[15:27]   RK : big tickets buying?
[15:27]   r m : almost perfect D in NF
[15:27]   Uttam : so no spike….
[15:28]   Uttam : all set for a trend day tom (hopefully)
[15:28]   Shai : haha Janak- get rich slowly and take care of your health as you are doing it 🙂
[15:28]   Sankar : 🙂
[15:28]   Shai : Jank used to be up till 12.30 in the room for crude and be back at 9.00 am for the BN 🙂
[15:29]   Sankar : Guess NF may look really stupid sometimes, but it does generate wealth..
[15:29]   Shai : NF all systems are “go” for a trend day
[15:29]   Shai : don’t miss the open tom
[15:30]   Uttam : will be on system @ 9 AM
[15:30]   r m : Oh God, please don’t give us a gap day tomorrow 🙂
[15:30]   Sankar : We all waiting for ur orders tmrw 🙂
[15:30]   Janak : shai i am still up till 12.30 🙂
[15:30]   Shai : Bye all
[15:30]   r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great evening 🙂
[15:30]   Shai : have a nice evening
[15:30]   Hari : Bye Shai, cya tomm
[15:30]   Ashish : Bye all
[15:30]   Tejpreet : Bye All.
[15:30]   Sankar : Thank you and Bye all 🙂
[15:30]   Uttam : Have a good evening guys 🙂
[15:31]   Moses : Bye All
[15:31]   Gangesh : bye all
[15:31]   Himanshu null : Hope for no major gap
[15:31]   Porus : bye all
[15:32]   Anay : bye all

[09:29]   R Goel : shai can you please help with DLF view for positional
[09:34]   Uttam : Shai Tamo looking weak here today?
[09:34]   Gaurav : Shai Bharat Forge a buy now in this downmove?
[09:37]   Shai : DLF range bound within the 143- 131 range- has to break either for a 24 point move
[09:37]   Shai : immediate supp for the week is 135.3 followed by 131
[09:38]   Shai : tataM will be slightly weak below 356 for 348/ 345
[09:38]   R Goel : thanks shai
[09:39]   Uttam : thanks Shai
[09:39]   Shai : Gaurav BF has a downgrade alert- wait for price stability on this move down
[09:43]   Gaurav : Thanks Shai!
[09:58]   Misaal : Shai view on TCS ?Also on selling 2450 Put around 40-44
[10:05]   Shai : tcs open drive down moving below 2nd support of 2520 can tgt 2454
[10:06]   Shai : 2440 looks safe – but wait for IB to complete and sell put only when the IB extension is not there
[10:06]   Uttam : Shai view on Tata Steel today loking good upside after yesterday’s fall?
[10:07]   RK : TCS that 2700 whipsaw gave 150+ down on other side..2670 to 2510 shorts closed 🙂
[10:07]   Shai : Gaurab Bharat forge moving up on buy vols- my go for gap fill sl of day lows
[10:08]   Uttam : super RK 🙂
[10:08]   Uttam : wish I would have also re-entered the shorts that day
[10:09]   RK : exactly same script for last quarter also..
[10:09]   r m : @Uttam, I am planning to hack into RK’s trading PC 🙂
[10:09]   Shai : yes tata steel may hit 262 on this drive sl of 245
[10:09]   RK : RM 🙂
[10:10]   Uttam : Thanks Shai
[10:11]   Ashish : Shai, bajaj-auto support levels?
[10:21]   Uttam : View on Arvind Shai?
[10:28]   Vaibhav : bhar forge shai…wats the gap level u looking for
[10:36]   Shai : bajaj showing some profit booking near 2475, may drop to 2380, intra supp at 2428
[10:37]   Shai : arvind has good supp at 284
[10:37]   Shai : staedy abv 287 for intra nd can tgt 291.6
[10:38]   Ashish : Thanks Shai
[10:38]   Uttam : thanks Shai
[10:40]   Shai : Bharat forge using 876 as supp can see it move to 920 and then 942 if 920 is crossed, 887 intra key now
[11:09]   Soumya : Shai Omkar crossed 199
[11:09]   Soumya : Going long here for 220?
[11:10]   R Goel : shia view on UPL
[11:10]   R Goel : shai* sorry 🙂
[11:11]   Shai : ulta cem supp at 2873 still- 2926 supply to watch
[11:11]   Shai : intra day could be quiet
[11:13]   Shai : yes omkar has buyers can see 210 into tuesday
[11:17]   Shai : upl weak on charts below 481 postnl – intra weakness below 469 and can see 463/ 460
[11:18]   R Goel : thanks shai
[11:29]   Soumya : thank you shai
[11:32]   Uttam : Tata Motors showing good strength Shai? did break 356 to make low of 351 but now back above 355
[12:13]   Janak : shai HUL 780pe can be bought?
[12:14]   Gaurav : Sks can be shorted at these levels Shai? Sl 440
[12:22]   RK : Axis and Hdfc looks good for shorts here with stops just few points above day high
[12:34]   Shai : tata motors don’t buy intra till it moves abv 358.3
[12:34]   Uttam : thanks Shai
[12:35]   Janak : shai BOB can be considered for 160-150 downside?
[12:35]   Janak : those pes are cheap
[12:35]   Shai : Gaurav sks avoid for now abv 446 can zoom
[12:35]   Shai : avoid short*
[12:37]   Shai : I see 461- 465 if 424 holds on clsoing basis in next 2 sessions
[12:37]   Gaurav : oh Thanks Shai
[12:39]   Shai : hul weak below 814 and can see 796
[12:40]   Shai : banbaroda 179 sl for 170.2 tgt this week
[12:40]   Janak : ok
[12:40]   Janak : thnx
[12:46]   Janak : shri riding mothersun sumi short since 258 – now at 245 – can go to 230? and dlf to 125?
[12:48]   Soumya : Shai view on deccan cement please
[12:48]   Soumya : I bought todat at 510
[12:52]   Shai : mothserson day onjective at 243.7 cash- almost there
[12:53]   Shai : still can do 230 if you carry but sl is 254
[12:53]   Janak : ok
[12:53]   Shai : dlf updated morning
[12:55]   Shai : deccn vol spike today- good long at 510 – one weekly objective at 540 hit
[12:56]   Soumya : positional objective?
[12:56]   Soumya : i think it is an undervalued stock
[12:57]   Soumya : Capacity 2.3 mtpa. Capacity utlizations of 45%. Capacity utlizations are bound to go up as its in a high growth market (Andhra). own captive limestone mine. Captive Thermal Power Plant (15MW), Hydro-electric Power Plant (3.75MW) and Wind Mills (2.025MW).equity 7 cr. 56% promoter holding.No pledge.Long term debt as on 31st March 2015 is 116 cr. EV around 460 cr.Institutions and MFs are invested in it.Company can be debt free by end of current year.
[12:57]   Soumya : I hope putting some fundamental pointers is not wrong here
[13:00]   Shai : oh yeah we love it- feel free to post
[13:00]   Shai : technically now a break abv 540 can point to 630 on the stock
[13:01]   r m : That would make Soumya very happy 🙂
[13:44]   Soumya : Shai, What is view on Torrent.. it is moving today..
[13:50]   Shai : torrent 1560 is supply of last week buy a close abv 1538 today will be positive on stcok
[14:47]   Mohit : Hi Shai. Hows Auro Pharma looking.
[14:48]   Mohit : Hi Shai. Howz Auro Pharma looking ?
[14:54]   Shai : auro 805/808 i supply – may run to 830 if that is taken down
[14:54]   Shai : 847 alos possible on close abv 808
[15:00]   Mohit : thanks Shai. sorry wasn’t sure if my msg was logged hence typed twice.
[15:00]   Mohit : bought few at 790, booked now ,will look again above 808
[15:03]   Shai : yes short covering abv 808 can be big
[15:03]   Shai : nice trade
[15:11]   Uttam : Shai views on BHEL? we had an excess at high yesterday & today playing below? time to exit longs?
[15:16]   Shai : Bhel hold 203.5 as sl for rest of this week
[15:16]   Uttam : thanks Shai
[15:16]   Shai : little weakish today and not shown fllowup buying yesterday
[15:17]   Uttam : Yes Shai, thanks will keep a check on that level tom before exiting