General Chat Transcript
Date and Time: September 15, 2014 09:35:18
[09:05] r m : Good Morning folks!
[09:05] r m : WPI data at 12:00 hrs
[09:05] Sharad : GM all
[09:06] r m : WPI (YoY) Previous 5.19%, Expected 4.50% (investing.com)
[09:10] Shai : Gm all’
[09:11] Shai : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-15th-sept/
[09:13] Sumit : gm Shai, rm, Sharad
[09:14] r m : Hi Sumit
[09:16] Shai : usdinr in an open drive
[09:16] Shai : weakness at open in NF and BNF
[09:16] Shai : auction in NF just below pdl but at last week’s lows of 8072
[09:18] Shai : NF could be an OAOR though can rise to 8096 if there is no new selling
[09:25] Shai : Buyers in NF
[09:26] Shai : Friday’s charts – http://vtrender.com/premium/orderflow-charts-and-notes-120914/
[09:27] Shai : liitle bit hesistant of new shorts here as OF was about shorts covering rather than new shorts
[09:27] Shai : so 1 upmove may come to 8095- 8105 for longs to cover or shorts to come back depends on OF
[09:28] Shai : then back to 8072 and possibly 8034/ 8020 below
[09:30] Shai : 8073- 8096 would be the only long trade
[09:30] Shai : but abv 8074 now
[09:31] Shai : shorts seen controlling the vwap so far
[09:38] Shai : NF more a drive now than OAOR
[09:38] Shai : short in control below 8073
[09:39] Sumit : Shai, what about bnf?
[09:48] Shai : BNf weak below 16205 by a small margin
[09:48] Shai : should move twoards 16130
[09:48] Sumit : thanks Shai
[09:48] Shai : welcome
[09:51] Shai : NF open drive – as always in all open drives watch vwap
[09:51] Shai : 8062 now
[09:52] Shai : early morning shorts and some long liquidation is there
[09:52] Shai : but based on what I see on charts- It is not strong hands
[09:52] Shai : besides there were no big shorts created on friday
[10:00] Kathir : Good Morning Shai RM sumit sharad and all 🙂
[10:00] r m : Hi Kathir 🙂
[10:00] Sumit : hi Kathir
[10:03] Sharad : GM Kathir
[10:06] Shai : vwap
[10:12] Kathir : @SHAI fri eve inr cut 60.90 and went to 60.85 range so closed that trade..thanks for the levels 🙂
[10:12] Shai : 🙂
[10:13] Shai : Agressive long in NF abv 8065 for 8085, sl 8050
[10:14] Shai : trade based on vwap covering
[10:15] Shai : BNF back abv vwap
[10:20] Shai : Not a lot of selling seen in both though price is not confirming yet in NF
[10:20] Shai : But BNF it is
[10:21] Shai : spot traders – 8030 supp and 8070 new resistance
[10:26] Kathir : @shai usd/inr supp res now?
[10:32] Shai : res in usdint still 61.44 and supp at 61.09
[10:32] Kathir : ok thanks
[10:33] Kathir : @rm we missed that 8000 pe
[10:34] Kathir : 25-48 🙂
[10:34] r m : yes
[10:35] r m : poor decision to stay away fearing weekend decay 🙂
[10:35] Kathir : yeah
[10:35] Kathir : why sudden 60 points down nf?
[10:35] Kathir : bad iip?
[10:35] r m : global issues
[10:36] r m : ES down more than 20 points
[10:37] Shai : /ES we expected a 1973 close on friday but looks like they will get a Monday open there
[10:37] Kathir : ok
[10:37] Shai : supp moves to 1950 now at /es
[10:39] Kathir : @shai fri bnf took very good support near 16220..shall we treat that levels as resistance now
[10:39] Kathir : or todays high
[10:40] Shai : 16254 is a better res now in BNF
[10:40] Kathir : ok
[10:40] r m : near day’s high should be VAL too
[10:44] Kathir : @yes i think we missed a small trade there
[10:44] Kathir : 230 – 180
[10:45] Kathir : we had a small SL
[10:45] Kathir : @shai in that case nf 8072 will also act as some res ?
[10:46] Shai : (10:21) Shai :spot traders – 8030 supp and 8070 new resistance
[10:47] Kathir : ok
[10:48] Shai : Here is the chart- http://screencast.com/t/ga4uFO1n
[10:49] Shai : above 8070 will be a swift climb through last week’s value in spot
[10:49] Shai : easy 30 points below 8030 which should be quick too
[10:49] Kathir : ok
[10:50] Shai : Still maintian on track for 7980 with sl now at 8070 spot
[10:54] Shai : 8074 F cross can also double up on longs for 8088 with sl of 8063
[11:09] Shai : Options OI is bearish this morning- http://screencast.com/t/o2dJpYdQqGnN
[11:10] Shai : It would tell us that highs would be used to liquidate longs
[11:10] Shai : first touch of 8072 brought out some selling
[11:11] Shai : Exit the aggressive NF longs at 8070
[11:42] Shai : auction beginning to turn around at 8071
[11:46] Shai : seller has to break vwap again for day low and the intra tgt of 8034
[11:50] Shai : Sell NF below 8060 tgt 8032, sl 8075
[11:59] Amit J : superb inflation
[12:00] r m : BNF in 80%
[12:01] Shriraj : 3.74 vs 5.19 wpi
[12:02] r m : wow!
[12:03] Shai : RBI has focussed on wpi all along since Rajan
[12:03] Shai : but he does not want to do anything with rates now
[12:04] Shai : so all this does not go anywhere
[12:07] Mandar : Good Afternoon All, Shai can a EOD close above 8072 indicate that sellers are weak here?
[12:09] r m : Hi Mandar
[12:10] Amit J : shai any view on geometric
[12:16] Shai : yes mandat we get into ce’s of 8100 if we close abv 8070 spot
[12:17] Mandar : thanks Shai.
[12:17] Shai : 8114 spot imm tgt and further rise if it sustains
[12:17] Shai : But at the moment profile will signal a close at lows
[12:17] Mandar : ok
[12:17] Chiranthan : Short at 8060 NF still open?
[12:18] Shai : yes
[12:18] Chiranthan : ok
[12:18] Shai : first sign of the sellers
[12:20] Shai : geometric has been in extended sideways
[12:20] Shai : 153.5 and 158.5 are 2 immediate resistance and as we probe higher volumes are increasing
[12:21] Shai : 30 point upside is there to 188 if 158.5 is taken out
[12:22] Shai : canoot come below 149.7 this week if it wants to move up
[12:30] Amit J : thanks.
[12:34] Shai : mw
[12:43] r m : shorts entering NF below vwap as per OF
[12:45] Shai : yes – mixed behavior today
[12:45] r m : ok
[12:45] Shai : the seller should not have let vwap be crossed on the open drive
[12:46] Anay : BNF OF 10 min chart plz
[12:47] Amit J : and any view on unitech
[12:50] Shai : BN spot in last week’s value- http://screencast.com/t/JKEwt7S7
[12:50] Shai : break of that VA will give a very rewarding trade
[12:52] Shai : unitech locked btw 24.3 and 21.7
[12:53] Shai : I think 27/ 28.4 is there on break above 24.4
[12:53] Shai : 22.7 should hold for that to happen and preferable close abv 23.45 todat
[12:57] Shai : BNF if 16235 holds now tgt is 16336
[12:57] Shai : prefer to buy closer to 15250 with sl below 15230 – great R/R
[12:58] Shai : VA is 16230-16195- 16097: (12:50) Shai :BN spot in last week’s value- http://screencast.com/t/JKEwt7S7
[13:30] Anay : NF short call still active?
[13:31] Shai : yes
[13:31] Anay : ok
[13:32] Shai : Take below 8058 now
[13:32] Anay : hmm
[13:32] Shai : early morning buyers from 8050 holding out against the sellers from 8075+
[13:33] Chiranthan : SL remains the same?
[13:34] Shai : yes 8076 + 1
[13:35] Shai : looking for the market to break on long liquidation this afternoon
[13:36] Shai : Banks are running contrary to the NF based on that RBI defaulter news of last week
[13:36] Shai : good for PSU’s
[13:39] Shai : today is 6 years to Lehman when the world changed right in front our eyes
[13:42] r m : indian markets took six months more to melt – alleged experts called it decoupling from global markets 😀
[13:42] r m : *4 more months
[13:43] Shai : yes Jan
[13:46] Shai : BNf driving
[13:47] Anay : buyers back in NF?
[13:48] Shai : yes – still buyer holding lower levels
[13:48] Shai : Seller only here at 8075+
[13:58] Shai : % change in intra day OI- http://screencast.com/t/YklOZl1Y7nH8
[14:02] Shai : 8100 put being liquidated and 8100 ce being added
[14:04] Shai : sellers coming again inn NF – 8072 and being aggressive
[14:07] Kathir : INR high
[14:11] Shai : 8069/ 71 is almost evenly matched now for dpoc
[14:29] Kathir : @rm
[14:29] r m : yessir!
[14:30] Kathir : if boring ry nrf one lot..
[14:30] Kathir : MRF
[14:30] Kathir : 5000 rs up from last week
[14:30] r m : wow!
[14:30] Kathir : 1 lot 125
[14:31] Kathir : if someone holding what a profit
[14:31] r m : yep
[14:31] Kathir : 125*5000 = 625000
[14:31] r m : not bad!
[14:32] Kathir : yeah .. now we all request Shai to give MRF levels 🙂
[14:33] r m : 🙂
[14:33] Kathir : apollo tyre all are wonderfull
[14:34] Kathir : Shai’s levels rcom cipla bhel apptyre
[14:34] r m : yeah, you said the other day, rubber price hitting new lows every day
[14:35] Kathir : yeah so all tyre companies will get huge profits..but i am sure no one will request to reduce tre prices 🙂
[14:35] r m : lol
[14:36] Kathir : @RM here just opposite to my office my CM jayalalitha is coming for election camp..
[14:36] r m : any elections due in TN?
[14:36] Kathir : they are torturing us to take all the vehicles and keep away
[14:37] Kathir : yeah mayor election..previous mayor was suspended by jayalalitha because mayors car hot a boy and did not stop 🙂
[14:37] Kathir : hit
[14:37] r m : lol
[14:37] Kathir : hit and run by mayor
[14:37] r m : well, he has been rightly kicked out
[14:37] Kathir : another two citi mayors were made rajyasabha MPS
[14:38] Kathir : 🙂
[14:38] r m : ok
[14:38] Kathir : one the beauty is one mayor selected un oppossed
[14:39] r m : ok
[14:40] Kathir : because BJP is the only party competing against jaya party..and the bjp mayor candidate of one citi withdrew from election without party’s permission 🙂
[14:40] Kathir : 7 crores i guess
[14:41] r m : last time BJP MP candidate did not file his papers that too S Gurumurthy who claims to be the biggest swadeshi sympathiser 🙂
[14:41] r m : perhaps he took swadeshi money too 😀
[14:41] Kathir : 🙂
[14:41] Kathir : lol
[14:42] Kathir : someone was asking Shai about cipla levels and it is up 60 rs from there
[14:45] Shriraj : watch lichousing……………..
[14:48] Shai : looks like a timid close at 8070 coming up
[14:50] Kathir : nity spot ?
[14:51] Shai : f
[14:52] Kathir : ok
[15:07] Shai : t
[15:08] Shai : sellers coming in aggressively
[15:09] r m : guess they are thinking of another gap down 🙂
[15:10] Kathir : 🙂
[15:16] Amit J : shai unitech at your level
[15:16] Shai : Nice Pick Amit
[15:17] Shai : vol is better than all of last week
[15:17] Amit J : i am buying for 3 digit target,
[15:17] Amit J : cipla still holding
[15:17] Shai : ok
[15:20] Kathir : @shai any changes in usd/inr levels for today..u told supp 61.09 and res 61.44…?
[15:21] Shai : No
[15:21] Shai : should be this range till thurs
[15:21] Kathir : ok thanks
[15:21] Shai : FOMC on wed at 11.30 pm
[15:21] Kathir : it gave a buy chance when at low 61.11..missed it
[15:22] r m : w
[15:23] r m : 61.16 came many times, 61.11 happened only at open
[15:23] Amit J : fomc meet should be positive, less hawkish
[15:25] Kathir : @rm ok
[15:26] Kathir : @shai the unitech levels u mentioned is for spot or fut?
[15:26] Shai : tgt is 7984 spot from here cmp 8040 spot
[15:27] Shai : we keep sl on the puts at 8070
[15:27] Shai : unitech spot
[15:27] Shai : all stocks mostly cash levels unless some1 specific asks for fut
[15:27] Kathir : ok shai
[15:28] Kathir : actually unitech spot and fut trade same price
[15:30] Shai : Nifty F 8016/ 7992 tgts below 8050 now
[15:30] r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great evening 🙂
[15:30] Shai : Bye all – Have a nice eve
[15:30] Anay : bye all
[15:31] Sumit : good bye everyone
[15:32] Kathir : thanks and bye all 🙂