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Date and Time: October 16, 2015 09:08:23[09:03] Shai : (08:42) r m:http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-16th-oct-2/
(08:43) r m:http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-and-notes-151015/
(08:43) r m:Nifty OCT Future levels | KRA 8248 | Hypo1 above 8212➜8248➜8269 SL 8180 | Hypo2 below 8168➜8145➜8098 SL 8208
(08:43) r m:Banknifty OCT Future levels | KRA 17820 | Hypo1 above 17825➜17892➜17950 SL 17720 | HYpo2 below 17690➜17627➜17511 SL 17790
Date and Time: October 16, 2015 09:08:23[09:03] Shai : (08:42) r m:http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-16th-oct-2/
(08:43) r m:http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-and-notes-151015/
(08:43) r m:Nifty OCT Future levels | KRA 8248 | Hypo1 above 8212➜8248➜8269 SL 8180 | Hypo2 below 8168➜8145➜8098 SL 8208
(08:43) r m:Banknifty OCT Future levels | KRA 17820 | Hypo1 above 17825➜17892➜17950 SL 17720 | HYpo2 below 17690➜17627➜17511 SL 17790
[09:20] Shai : (09:20) Shai :exit the BNF BTST trade at 17710- 17715 now
[09:44] Shai : (09:44) Shai :Sell BNF near 17655- 17665 sl of 17715 tgt 17580/ 17520
[10:36] Shai : (10:36) Shai :Make an exit in the BNF short trade at cmp
[11:28] Shai : (11:28) Shai :Movve stop of 8200 ce to 61 – we will exit if it
[12:09] Shai : (12:08) Shai :Sell NF 8164 sl of 8185 tgt 8146/ 8128 – go with 50% size only
[12:24] Shai : (12:24) Shai :bringsl to 8174 on the NF short trade. low conviction market today
[12:33] Shai : (12:33) Shai :exit the NF short trade 8160/61 now
[14:33] Shai : (14:33) Shai :BTST : Buy BNF 17923 sl of 17780 tgt 18060/ 18345
[14:49] Shai : (14:49) Shai :Part book the BNF BTST at 17980 – bring sl to 17920 on balance
[15:23] Shai : (15:23) Shai :Booking the BNF BTST fully here at 17980 butotherpositionals can carry
General Chat Transcript
Room Name: Vtrender
Date and Time: October 16, 2015 09:08:23[08:42] r m : Good Morning folks!
[08:42] Rahul P : gm all
[08:42] r m : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-16th-oct-2/
[08:43] r m : http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-and-notes-151015/
[08:43] r m : http://vtrender.com/consolidated-orderflow-151015/
[08:43] r m : Nifty OCT Future levels | KRA 8248 | Hypo1 above 8212➜8248➜8269 SL 8180 | Hypo2 below 8168➜8145➜8098 SL 8208
[08:43] r m : Banknifty OCT Future levels | KRA 17820 | Hypo1 above 17825➜17892➜17950 SL 17720 | HYpo2 below 17690➜17627➜17511 SL 17790
[08:43] Anay : GM All
[08:46] Gangesh : gm sir
[08:54] r m : Results today – Reliance, NIITTech
[08:54] r m : Results on Monday – Ultracemco
[08:55] Anay : ok thanks
[08:55] Anay : RIL would be in the evening rt?
[08:55] r m : Usually in the evening
[08:56] r m : Except infy no other company gives the time of announcement 🙁
[08:56] Gangesh : forex scam by some bank
[08:57] Gangesh : any effect on bnf
[08:57] r m : Must have been doing it all the time, now they are being caught )
[08:57] r m : 🙂
[08:58] Anay : of course, you are a chor only if you get caught 😉
[08:58] r m : scams are not affecting the bank’s profits, these are illegal transactions
[08:58] r m : yes Anay 🙂
[08:59] Gangesh : sentiment of trader may drag bnf
[08:59] r m : Bank’t profits will be impacted if RBI is bold enough to impose huge fines on the banks
[08:59] Gangesh : ohhh
[08:59] r m : ES went up high to take care of trader sentiments 🙂
[09:02] Shai : GM all
[09:03] r m : S&P500 http://screencast.com/t/MAEYwF0gIU6Z
[09:06] Sankar : GM Shai, RM and everyone 🙂
[09:06] r m : Hi Sankar 🙂
[09:07] Tejpreet : GM All.
[09:09] Sharad : GM all
[09:09] Augustin : GM all
[09:09] OS : GM all
[09:10] RK : GM Shai,RM and all
[09:11] Shankar : GM all
[09:11] RK : GM Shai,RM and all
[09:11] Janak : gm all – reliance results are out?
[09:14] Anay : @Janak eveing
[09:14] Anay : *evening
[09:15] r m : Hi RK
[09:15] Uttam : GM All 🙂
[09:15] Hari : @shai, do we hold BNF?
[09:16] Hari : approaching stop
[09:20] Shai : exit the BNF BTST trade at 17710- 17715 now
[09:21] Hari : @shai, should we add more qty to 8200CE
[09:25] Janak : looks like reliance is the last biggi in results – so bears may have a reason to come back and rule
[09:28] Shai : @Hari, NF in the same place as y’day – we are not adding here
[09:28] Janak : the chief of bears here – kris is bearish – so be warned
[09:28] Uttam : 8200 CE SL 64 to be put in system right Shai?
[09:29] Hari : Vix is down still
[09:29] Hari : massive grind going on
[09:29] Hari : @shai, option prices have fallten by 10% though index has not moved much
[09:30] Shai : yes vix decay
[09:30] Shai : NF has buyers at lows
[09:30] Shai : ref line 8166
[09:32] Anay : vwap band is 10 pts. lol
[09:33] Shai : 🙂
[09:33] Shai : yesterday at 9.30 we were about 18L in vol today 0.86
[09:33] Varun : observation whne wvwap bands too close , big moves pushes them
[09:33] Varun : nvr see vwap bands close after ib
[09:41] Tejpreet : Anyone using TrueData …any issues with the data services today?
[09:44] Shai : Sell BNF near 17655- 17665 sl of 17715 tgt 17580/ 17520
[09:45] r m : @Tejpreet, no data service today, no response either from their chat or email 🙁
[09:45] Tejpreet : Same here ..no reply!
[09:48] Varun : shia will a drive fail if we cross vwap
[09:48] Varun : shai
[09:49] Shai : vol does ‘not suggest a drive
[10:01] Lakshay : do you compare volume by previuos days average volume , or there is a specific value in you ind?
[10:01] Lakshay : *mind
[10:06] Sankar : Tej/RM, They don’t have a number to call?
[10:06] Tejpreet : This the one on the website 91-7304-22-44-66
[10:06] r m : @Sankar, as a matter of principle I don’t contact call center guys unless I am dying or something 🙂
[10:07] r m : they have now replied thru email that it may take another hour to restore
[10:07] Tejpreet : Hahaha RM …absolutley true calling call centre will actually kill you !
[10:07] Sankar : 🙂
[10:07] r m : yes Tejpreet
[10:08] Tejpreet : That is why I have ami with another data vendor
[10:08] r m : First qualification for working in call center is that one should be born with zero IQ 😀
[10:09] Shai : @Lakshay we compare vol to the past 5 day and past 20 day median
[10:09] Lakshay : ok
[10:10] Varun : shai we’ll have it by monday , the vol median ?
[10:11] Shai : yes
[10:11] Varun : thanks
[10:12] Shai : will add it for sure
[10:12] Shai : NF still showing more buying but just the vol is not making an impact
[10:29] Rahul P : Acceptance past yvah, do u see a case for open rejection reverse ?
[10:32] Gangesh : we will hit 715
[10:32] RK : Shai if at all we clear FA 8248 then we are almost super bullish on monthly TF?
[10:33] RK : as we reach that aug breakdown point 8280-300..or it will be super resistance there once again?
[10:33] RK : your monthly DD setup
[10:35] Shai : Yes RK
[10:35] Shai : from roughly 7800 the buy side is heavier and plus we are abv the series vwap of sept
[10:35] Anay : what was Aug series vwap?
[10:35] Rahul P : shai, any case for open rejection reveser for today ?
[10:36] Shai : Make an exit in the BNF short trade at cmp
[10:36] RK : yes..and closing towards Aug vwap too..am looking for building positions for 200-300 points if we close above FA
[10:36] RK : Anay Aug 8285 on spot
[10:37] Anay : ok thanks
[10:37] Shai : aug 8285 sept was 7830
[10:37] RK : yes
[10:45] Mayur : shai with daily tick showing so many buyers towards lower end of the candle. shouldnt we go long we todays low as stop ??
[10:45] Shai : Can Mayur tgt 8206/ 8230
[10:45] Mayur : same for banknifty?
[10:46] r m : NJAC unconstitutional! Judges apponting Judges is constitutional 🙂
[10:46] Shai : Not in BNF as we are below val still
[10:47] RK : BNF above open high would roll fast
[10:47] RK : quick dash to KRA from there
[10:51] Shai : vols – http://screencast.com/t/GJUgyZ9fhp
[11:24] Rahul P : shai, can we have a weekly composite profile for nf plz ?
[11:26] Hari : @shai, 8200 CS stop is approaching, ie 64, should we exit in case stop hit?
[11:27] Hari : *CE
[11:28] Shai : Movve stop of 8200 ce to 61 – we will exit if it
[11:28] Rahul P : shai, weekly composite plz
[11:28] Rahul P : for nf
[11:29] Shai : will update
[11:29] Shai : NF vol spike has buyers
[11:31] Rahul P : big dump…..212
[11:31] Hari : oh man
[11:31] Shai : yeah another vol spike
[11:31] Shai : tis is bigger
[11:32] Rahul P : no follow through yet 🙂
[11:32] Hari : dump volume is getting bigger and growing!
[11:32] Dharam : plz share the volume spike chart here also..thanks
[11:34] Gangesh : sir how can we derive hypo level ourself?
[11:34] Shai : NF weekly- http://screencast.com/t/mBDNlTVxQ4
[11:34] Rahul P : thanks mate
[11:35] RK : Shai this big red a fresh sell?
[11:35] Shai : Dharam vol spike chart is live – the 5 min vol pane
[11:35] Shai : Yes RK could be algos in opp
[11:36] RK : but he is absorbed quickly
[11:36] Naresh : how do we interpret ,such big volume with out much price movement ?
[11:37] Hari : That dump was not bad, resilent
[11:38] Hari : 8160 is being fiercly protected, huh
[11:40] RK : that dump guy brought dPOC down with him..
[11:40] Rahul P : responsive selling it seems….no follow up
[11:40] Hari : probably FII liquidating longs
[11:46] RK : what’s the logic behind such single order dump in a dull mkt that too in no sell region..algo seems pressed F2 instead of F1 🙂
[11:46] Rahul P : looks like a cover order triggered
[11:48] Shai : and looks like he cobered immedaitely after the sell
[11:49] RK : so we have company in big boys too..i.e, hit the button and immediately realise that you did a blunder 🙂
[11:49] Hari : @RK, you made my day
[11:49] Hari : ROFLMAO
[11:49] RK : 🙂
[11:50] r m : @RK, probably that guy pressed F2 instead of F1 🙂
[11:50] RK : RM seems so..ask him hit F1 properly now when we reach vwap 🙂
[11:50] RK : *to hit
[11:51] r m : lol
[11:51] Rahul P : good that F2 did not drive the price down
[11:51] Rahul P : else we could have seen the old kra 8130
[11:52] r m : @Rahul, there are always folks around to buy or sell, so many are in love with the fairest price!
[11:55] Naresh : how the green and purple line trades happen ? buy when the line turns green above that bar ?
[11:56] Shai : yeah they are net of buy and sell vols and denote more buying or selling if pink
[11:58] Shai : anybody has the latest numbers on the coffeee day IPO?
[11:58] Shai : everyone said avoid 🙂
[12:01] r m : only QIBs have fully subscribed so far http://screencast.com/t/n10rKhmsa3M
[12:01] RK : should be fully subscribed today
[12:01] r m : till yesterday
[12:02] RK : 75% till yday
[12:02] r m : yes
[12:03] Shai : interesting data RM- even the employees haven’t booked 🙂
[12:04] r m : 🙂
[12:04] r m : they know the best 🙂
[12:04] Anay : 🙂
[12:05] r m : 81% subscribed till 11 AM
[12:05] Hari : coffee day going the discount mode, 50% off after 8 pm, under pressure to show volume
[12:05] Hari : another fail like YUM
[12:06] Hari : volume and footfall
[12:06] Hari : going public will kill them
[12:08] Shai : Sell NF 8164 sl of 8185 tgt 8146/ 8128 – go with 50% size only
[12:09] Shai : go with reduced sizes as mkt volume is not good
[12:10] RK : who did that from this room? 🙂
[12:11] Ashish : everyone 🙂
[12:11] RK : but he asked to go with 50% and it seems all did 200% 🙂
[12:11] Ashish : LOL
[12:11] Hari : omg!
[12:12] Uttam : guess all got bored & I opt to get go of this call
[12:12] Uttam : 8200 CE SL hit
[12:14] Anay : looks like RK covered at 8155
[12:16] RK : lol noway..am kind of poor fellow buying highs and selling lows 🙂
[12:18] Rahul P : tempting to go long here 🙁
[12:21] Hari : someone has sold at market instead of limit
[12:23] RK : very very poor volume
[12:24] Shai : bring sl to 8174 on the NF short trade. low conviction market today
[12:25] RK : Shai can we go for SAR at 8176 for 80%?
[12:26] Hari : VIX recovered from the lows!
[12:28] Shai : yes RK may do 8200- 8206
[12:28] RK : yes
[12:30] RK : IBL/dPOC combo
[12:33] Shai : exit the NF short trade 8160/61 now
[12:33] Shai : we will stay falt for sometime and see if we get a friday weekly inventory move
[12:34] Shai : dpoc weekly is here at 8156 still
[12:34] Shai : flat*
[12:34] Jay null : inventory move till 8206?
[12:47] Hari : Europe opened in deep green
[12:48] RK : just 0.5% up
[12:48] Anay : nope. it’s flat
[12:49] RK : Yep +ve flat
[12:49] Anay : my nope was to Hari 😉
[12:49] RK : thats understood 🙂
[12:50] Anay : DAX Fut are -ve flat in fact 🙂
[12:50] Hari : you must see in the context of yday closing, there is a follow thro buying considering the fact that US market expiry is today, not bad
[12:51] Anay : ok. are you long? 🙂
[12:51] RK : Anay you are checking through data vendor?
[12:51] Anay : GCI MT4
[12:52] r m : http://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
[12:52] Hari : nope, no positions until VIX picks up
[12:52] Hari : else whipsaws only
[12:52] RK : Yes RM..investing and yahoo says 0.5 % up..but delayed 5-10 mins..GCI perfect
[12:52] Hari : check investing.com, accurate data
[12:53] RK : havent opened GCI for years now
[12:53] Anay : 🙂
[12:53] Anay : I have been using it for 5 yrs now
[12:53] Hari : Sensex., nifty volatile!!!!!
[12:53] Anay : for Forex as well
[12:53] RK : when I was working, GCI is the first thing I open in the morning before start checking mails 🙂
[12:53] Hari : junk news
[12:53] Anay : 🙂
[12:54] RK : but I learnt all technical indicators from GCI only though concluded not to use any of them for trading later 🙂
[12:55] Anay : True 🙂
[12:55] RK : broco was the best platform than GCI especially for MCX..poor guys shut down their shop
[12:55] Anay : ok
[12:55] Anay : Never traded on MCX 🙂
[12:56] RK : poor office guys like me had MCX as only choice to learn adventures 🙂
[12:57] r m : 🙂
[12:57] Varun : shai vpoc still stands at 94/96 fr 2 day
[12:57] Varun : ?
[12:58] RK : somebody resumed after Friday brunch to check his inventory..good single volume in both charts simultaneously
[12:59] Porus : what is the GCI URL?
[13:00] Varun : rk sometimes we burn the midnite oil to take out random nos 😉 https://twitter.com/sweetspottrader/status/654742891353411584
[13:00] RK : I saw it mate 🙂
[13:01] RK : 8140 and 17600 are my nos..save them..cant take another whip 🙂
[13:02] Shai : yes 2 day dpoc at 8193 only
[13:03] Shai : 8177- 8193- 8201
[13:03] RK : 1’o clock and just 40 lacs vol..
[13:04] Varun : thanks shai
[13:04] Varun : too boring for a friday
[13:04] RK : yes
[13:05] Varun : 2 day i think bell curve done
[13:05] Varun : another trend day in waiting outside value
[13:05] Varun : rm where r u my friend
[13:05] RK : but where was the first trend day which we were all awaiting ? 🙂
[13:06] Varun : actually everyone was waiting for it na 😉
[13:06] Varun : so it decided other ways
[13:06] RK : yday it was about to be but they fused it 🙂
[13:06] Rahul P : today’s opening spoilt it
[13:07] Rahul P : morning sgx was looking promising
[13:07] RK : even SGX lost hope now a days..all through the night they trade +/- 20
[13:07] Rahul P : this week has been bad for sgx, last week it was giving good +-100 pts whipsaws
[13:08] Hemant : Varun, Sonia Gandhi’s hand is visible in NF & BNF today
[13:08] Varun : give me my hand of 50 points
[13:08] Varun : rest le loh jo lena hain
[13:09] Hemant : Damad will get anxious if he too doesnt get his 50
[13:20] Tejpreet : True data services back .
[13:21] r m : yes, but today’s missing data will be uploaded only at EOD 🙁
[13:21] Tejpreet : Thanks was wondering why charts looking crappy
[13:21] RK : so you guys now provide volumes as your charts are back!
[13:22] Tejpreet : No good RK ..printing from K period only.
[13:22] RK : so we have to live with this low volume grinding then 🙂
[13:23] Anay : ohh. this is bad. was planning to subscribe today itself. lol
[13:29] Anay : rm is serially RTing NJAC tweets 😉
[13:30] r m : only those which I agree with 😀
[13:30] Anay : of course 🙂
[13:30] Varun : rm 2 day combo profile dikhao
[13:30] Varun : 😉
[13:31] r m : @Varun, data missing today, profle mein hole hai 😉
[13:31] Varun : aap sab miley huey ho ji
[13:31] Varun : shai cn we see the merge 2 day
[13:31] Varun : profile nf
[13:33] Shai : NF and bnf both tpo meged
[13:33] Varun : nf
[13:33] Shai : 2 day balance
[13:33] RK : on the screens?
[13:33] Varun : thnks
[13:33] RK : yes.got it
[13:34] Varun : seems one more visit to 88 will fill rm’s dimple
[13:34] r m : Balance above balance, Ya Khuda!
[13:34] RK : and 760
[13:35] Varun : yup
[13:35] Varun : poc still high
[13:36] r m : BN profile looks like someone has taken a bite off it 🙂
[13:36] Anay : lol
[13:36] Varun : i hope mondays not used to fill the lvn
[13:41] SantoshU : Coffee Day Ent IPO Fully Subscribed @CNBCTV18Live
[13:44] Sankar : whithout even looking at any chart, can tell 8130 is a HVN.
[13:44] Varun : @tej whts vix
[13:45] Tejpreet : 16.6
[13:45] Varun : and any relevance we can draw
[13:45] Varun : shldnt we get aslow straight move
[13:45] Varun : with low vix
[13:46] Tejpreet : Yes …am looking to buy a straddle if vix hits 15 …then let nifty go anywhere!
[13:46] r m : low vix suggests that witers expecting eternal balancing 🙂
[13:46] r m : *writers
[13:47] RK : low vix in a low volume mkt is like retirement life..nothing moves 🙂
[13:47] Sankar : lol.
[13:47] r m : 🙂
[13:47] Tejpreet : 🙂
[13:49] Hemant : RM, i misread witers as “winters” expecting balancing 🙂
[13:50] Hemant : Mental slugfest
[13:51] r m : @Hemant 🙂
[13:53] Tejpreet : A point of interest from Wells Fargo blog …..There were many fewer instances of big market movements coming out of a low volume and low volatility time periods than out of other time periods.
[13:53] Hemant : Then market is blunt.. 0 edge, 0 hedge, 0 position.
[13:55] Shai : 8200 ce update: we got hit on premium decay – still a hold at cmp for Momday trade- can buy 50% here and 50% at close sl of 53 on Mon
[13:55] Anay : what do you mean by many fewer? Oxymoron 😀
[13:55] Hemant : Who applied anasthesia today to the market??
[13:56] Tejpreet : Good catch Anay !
[13:56] r m : i thought market applied anasthesia to us 🙂
[13:56] Hemant : Momday Shai 🙂
[13:57] Hemant : That seems to be correct RM 🙂
[13:58] r m : actually when there is low volume open within value and range, we should go out and see morning show 🙂
[13:58] Anay : already seen 3 movies in a week 😉
[13:58] r m : come back at Europe Open, take lunch followed by nap 🙂
[13:58] r m : lol
[13:59] Hemant : Movies? Monday morning? 🙂
[14:05] RK : Drive,Ides of March,Lookout,Hard eight,the informant..this week movies 🙂
[14:06] r m : 🙂
[14:06] r m : looks like Exchanges must be funding multiplexes 🙂
[14:06] Tejpreet : Next scam caught by RM
[14:07] RK : no Man I wont get english movies screening here..all through videos 🙂
[14:07] RK : here we get only tamil speaking James bonds 🙂
[14:08] Anay : @RK where do u stay?
[14:08] RK : Karur..Geogrraphically heart of Tamilnadu..
[14:10] RK : Varun see how these dimples are powerful to lure 🙂
[14:10] Anay : ok
[14:10] Anay : NF going for 80%
[14:10] Varun : thts y asked for it
[14:10] Varun : 😉
[14:11] Anay : BNF as well now 😉
[14:12] Hemant : Ty Doc, I’d almost slept for the last 3 hours.. will try to get hold of those titles
[14:13] Dharam : how’s the volume in this 20 pts nifty move relatively speaking!!!
[14:13] Hari : agressive selling in BNF at the top
[14:14] r m : @RK, in which street? 🙂 http://screencast.com/t/GgBtcDv6
[14:14] Shai : Dharam when vol comes above the blue line in the vol chart it is higher
[14:15] Anay : NF does 80%. ab BNF ki baari
[14:15] RK : lol..
[14:17] Anay : almost done in BNF as well 🙂
[14:18] RK : we are in for 8285 and 18K
[14:19] Shai : 8200 ce at 100
[14:20] Uttam : BNF positional above 17850 Shai?
[14:20] Shai : don’t buy here
[14:21] Janak : nf target 8250/69?
[14:21] Uttam : but positional buy gets triggered if closes above 17850 today right?
[14:22] Shai : yes
[14:22] Shai : 8248 tgt Janak
[14:26] Shai : NF 8213 a support here
[14:30] Shai : NF can do 8268 now
[14:30] Shai : one row of sellers liquidated
[14:33] Shai : BTST : Buy BNF 17923 sl of 17780 tgt 18060/ 18345
[14:33] Hemant : 8248 well done Shai 🙂
[14:34] Shai : NF R/R is not good on intra butt 8268 possible here sl of 8213
[14:35] Shai : 8308 possible if BNF rallies
[14:35] Janak : vow shai
[14:36] Hemant : Shai, is ok to buy 8100 PE as some protection?
[14:37] Anay : spending lot of time above vwap + 3sd
[14:37] Shai : Yes Heamnt will be good that PE
[14:38] Hemant : Great
[14:38] Shai : Hemant*
[14:38] Hemant : Ty Shai
[14:38] Varun : what a move
[14:39] Varun : man
[14:39] Shai : 8200 ce should have hit 117 on this move to 8248, we need to prep the charts up for vix decay better
[14:40] Uttam : we still hold the CE right Shai?
[14:40] Shai : yes
[14:40] Varun : shai small work i did last nite https://twitter.com/sweetspottrader/status/654739920989241344
[14:40] Varun : and conviction wins
[14:40] Uttam : superb entry we got just under 70
[14:41] Uttam : yes Varun, was going through all your tweets, super work. U rock man, keep it going…
[14:42] Rahul P : build acceptance here…next week 8330 wide open
[14:42] Shai : Nice Varun just saw it
[14:42] Varun : 🙂
[14:43] Kiran : Shai that 1000 point BNF trade on ?
[14:43] Shai : Kiran that is higher near 18200
[14:43] Shai : will update that on weekend
[14:43] Kiran : ok
[14:44] Shai : for now we should get 18060 though orderflow suggests we will come down for a test again
[14:45] Shai : 8200 ce hits tgt 1 now-
[14:49] Varun : monday will go in balncing thse 60 point singles now
[14:49] Shai : Part book the BNF BTST at 17980 – bring sl to 17920 on balance
[14:49] Shai : we may pull back a bit
[14:50] Shai : even in NF 8268 was the obj
[14:50] Shai : may pull back
[14:50] Janak : or reliance rally is over and monday onwards – it is all the way to bears?
[14:51] Varun : shai if which has higher vol in 8100/8240 bal
[14:52] Varun : 8195 or 8160
[14:52] Sankar : So finally, Shai, KRA will be at bottom frm tomrw again. Hope that won’t be 8130 🙂
[14:53] r m : 🙂
[14:57] Anay : @Varun 8100-8240 balance https://www.dropbox.com/s/cx93aiai7hxq676/NF%20VP%20Comp.png?dl=0
[14:58] Shai : vpoc os balance move to 8185
[14:58] Janak : only index is going up – stocks are being sold heavily?
[14:58] RK : do Ctrl+F for 8285 and read that conversation..it might be helpful next week 🙂 http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-and-notes-030915/
[14:58] Shai : yes 8135 almost equal
[15:01] Varun : these singles will be pain
[15:01] Shai : Nice RK
[15:01] Varun : for bears now
[15:01] Varun : n period
[15:01] Shai : Finally RM has some competition here in googling data 🙂
[15:01] r m : 🙂
[15:01] RK : Yes Shai..bigger time frame helps from minor jitteries 🙂
[15:02] Shai : Sankar yes – on 2 counts as FA when crossed should stay aboe also
[15:02] Shai : above*
[15:02] RK : 🙂
[15:02] Shai : 8248 F supp followed by 8206 as NF heads to meeet that seller
[15:04] Sankar : 🙂
[15:04] RK : have been waiting for this day from Mid sep 🙂
[15:05] Varun : rk those who dnt trade in bal cant get the imbalnce proved again
[15:05] Varun : 😉
[15:05] Shai : Friday afternoon brought a dead/ dull day to life
[15:06] Uttam : BNF TSL can be removed now Shai?
[15:06] RK : Varun true..but this time trading balance tested patience after some long time..I was expecting similar move below 8090 but yday morning gap up changed colours in my shed from red to green 🙂
[15:06] Shai : hold Uttam another 5 mins
[15:07] Uttam : ok Shai
[15:08] Shai : Book out all 8200 ce- we will take a fresh option on Mon- 115 now
[15:08] RK : RM MO could be at 45-50?
[15:11] r m : let me check
[15:11] RK : 33 lacs vol in last candle which is huge..all stops for positional below that..
[15:12] RK : Sankar your KRA for Monday there 🙂
[15:12] Naresh : any btsm in Nifty ?
[15:13] Naresh : sorry. missed the abv mseesge from Shai
[15:13] Sankar : 🙂
[15:13] r m : @RK, MO at 34, Adv/Dec is only 782/713
[15:13] RK : thanks RM..
[15:14] Varun : all dips to 8200 shld be bought
[15:14] Varun : this buyer will protect it for many days
[15:14] Varun : like the one at 8090
[15:14] Varun : did
[15:15] Varun : and today 8150 did
[15:15] Sankar : 8145 was a good one Varun 🙂
[15:15] RK : RM that 2 lac sell and scratch around 8160 had some purpose :))
[15:16] Varun : 🙂
[15:16] RK : I have recently seen one video in twitter about a fish being caught by crane or something..perfect example of Order flow and this 2 lac order reminds that 🙂
[15:16] r m : yes RK, it was aimed at my shorts 🙂
[15:17] RK : oops
[15:17] Janak : shai chances of a flat / gap down open are there?
[15:17] r m : @RK, nothing much, a routine short below IBL it was 🙂
[15:17] RK : fine 🙂
[15:23] Shai : Booking the BNF BTST fully here at 17980 butother positionals can carry
[15:23] Shai : flat for a fresh Monday
[15:23] Shai : Janak difficult to call a Mon
[15:26] RK : 18K- closing BNF intra longs 🙂
[15:27] RK : if we have another 5 mins extra, Shai will get his 18050 🙂
[15:27] r m : we have 3 minutes 🙂
[15:27] RK : I mean 3+5
[15:27] RK : 🙂
[15:27] Uttam : injury time 😉 RK
[15:28] RK : Uttam 🙂
[15:31] Tejpreet : Bye All.
[15:32] Shai : Bye all
[15:32] Shai : Have a nice weekend
[15:32] Uttam : have a good weekend all 🙂 thanks Shai
[15:32] r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great weekend 🙂
[15:32] Sankar : Thank you and have a nice weekend all 🙂
[15:32] Sandeep69 : bye
Date and Time: October 16, 2015 09:08:23[08:42] r m : Good Morning folks!
[08:42] Rahul P : gm all
[08:42] r m : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-16th-oct-2/
[08:43] r m : http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-and-notes-151015/
[08:43] r m : http://vtrender.com/consolidated-orderflow-151015/
[08:43] r m : Nifty OCT Future levels | KRA 8248 | Hypo1 above 8212➜8248➜8269 SL 8180 | Hypo2 below 8168➜8145➜8098 SL 8208
[08:43] r m : Banknifty OCT Future levels | KRA 17820 | Hypo1 above 17825➜17892➜17950 SL 17720 | HYpo2 below 17690➜17627➜17511 SL 17790
[08:43] Anay : GM All
[08:46] Gangesh : gm sir
[08:54] r m : Results today – Reliance, NIITTech
[08:54] r m : Results on Monday – Ultracemco
[08:55] Anay : ok thanks
[08:55] Anay : RIL would be in the evening rt?
[08:55] r m : Usually in the evening
[08:56] r m : Except infy no other company gives the time of announcement 🙁
[08:56] Gangesh : forex scam by some bank
[08:57] Gangesh : any effect on bnf
[08:57] r m : Must have been doing it all the time, now they are being caught )
[08:57] r m : 🙂
[08:58] Anay : of course, you are a chor only if you get caught 😉
[08:58] r m : scams are not affecting the bank’s profits, these are illegal transactions
[08:58] r m : yes Anay 🙂
[08:59] Gangesh : sentiment of trader may drag bnf
[08:59] r m : Bank’t profits will be impacted if RBI is bold enough to impose huge fines on the banks
[08:59] Gangesh : ohhh
[08:59] r m : ES went up high to take care of trader sentiments 🙂
[09:02] Shai : GM all
[09:03] r m : S&P500 http://screencast.com/t/MAEYwF0gIU6Z
[09:06] Sankar : GM Shai, RM and everyone 🙂
[09:06] r m : Hi Sankar 🙂
[09:07] Tejpreet : GM All.
[09:09] Sharad : GM all
[09:09] Augustin : GM all
[09:09] OS : GM all
[09:10] RK : GM Shai,RM and all
[09:11] Shankar : GM all
[09:11] RK : GM Shai,RM and all
[09:11] Janak : gm all – reliance results are out?
[09:14] Anay : @Janak eveing
[09:14] Anay : *evening
[09:15] r m : Hi RK
[09:15] Uttam : GM All 🙂
[09:15] Hari : @shai, do we hold BNF?
[09:16] Hari : approaching stop
[09:20] Shai : exit the BNF BTST trade at 17710- 17715 now
[09:21] Hari : @shai, should we add more qty to 8200CE
[09:25] Janak : looks like reliance is the last biggi in results – so bears may have a reason to come back and rule
[09:28] Shai : @Hari, NF in the same place as y’day – we are not adding here
[09:28] Janak : the chief of bears here – kris is bearish – so be warned
[09:28] Uttam : 8200 CE SL 64 to be put in system right Shai?
[09:29] Hari : Vix is down still
[09:29] Hari : massive grind going on
[09:29] Hari : @shai, option prices have fallten by 10% though index has not moved much
[09:30] Shai : yes vix decay
[09:30] Shai : NF has buyers at lows
[09:30] Shai : ref line 8166
[09:32] Anay : vwap band is 10 pts. lol
[09:33] Shai : 🙂
[09:33] Shai : yesterday at 9.30 we were about 18L in vol today 0.86
[09:33] Varun : observation whne wvwap bands too close , big moves pushes them
[09:33] Varun : nvr see vwap bands close after ib
[09:41] Tejpreet : Anyone using TrueData …any issues with the data services today?
[09:44] Shai : Sell BNF near 17655- 17665 sl of 17715 tgt 17580/ 17520
[09:45] r m : @Tejpreet, no data service today, no response either from their chat or email 🙁
[09:45] Tejpreet : Same here ..no reply!
[09:48] Varun : shia will a drive fail if we cross vwap
[09:48] Varun : shai
[09:49] Shai : vol does ‘not suggest a drive
[10:01] Lakshay : do you compare volume by previuos days average volume , or there is a specific value in you ind?
[10:01] Lakshay : *mind
[10:06] Sankar : Tej/RM, They don’t have a number to call?
[10:06] Tejpreet : This the one on the website 91-7304-22-44-66
[10:06] r m : @Sankar, as a matter of principle I don’t contact call center guys unless I am dying or something 🙂
[10:07] r m : they have now replied thru email that it may take another hour to restore
[10:07] Tejpreet : Hahaha RM …absolutley true calling call centre will actually kill you !
[10:07] Sankar : 🙂
[10:07] r m : yes Tejpreet
[10:08] Tejpreet : That is why I have ami with another data vendor
[10:08] r m : First qualification for working in call center is that one should be born with zero IQ 😀
[10:09] Shai : @Lakshay we compare vol to the past 5 day and past 20 day median
[10:09] Lakshay : ok
[10:10] Varun : shai we’ll have it by monday , the vol median ?
[10:11] Shai : yes
[10:11] Varun : thanks
[10:12] Shai : will add it for sure
[10:12] Shai : NF still showing more buying but just the vol is not making an impact
[10:29] Rahul P : Acceptance past yvah, do u see a case for open rejection reverse ?
[10:32] Gangesh : we will hit 715
[10:32] RK : Shai if at all we clear FA 8248 then we are almost super bullish on monthly TF?
[10:33] RK : as we reach that aug breakdown point 8280-300..or it will be super resistance there once again?
[10:33] RK : your monthly DD setup
[10:35] Shai : Yes RK
[10:35] Shai : from roughly 7800 the buy side is heavier and plus we are abv the series vwap of sept
[10:35] Anay : what was Aug series vwap?
[10:35] Rahul P : shai, any case for open rejection reveser for today ?
[10:36] Shai : Make an exit in the BNF short trade at cmp
[10:36] RK : yes..and closing towards Aug vwap too..am looking for building positions for 200-300 points if we close above FA
[10:36] RK : Anay Aug 8285 on spot
[10:37] Anay : ok thanks
[10:37] Shai : aug 8285 sept was 7830
[10:37] RK : yes
[10:45] Mayur : shai with daily tick showing so many buyers towards lower end of the candle. shouldnt we go long we todays low as stop ??
[10:45] Shai : Can Mayur tgt 8206/ 8230
[10:45] Mayur : same for banknifty?
[10:46] r m : NJAC unconstitutional! Judges apponting Judges is constitutional 🙂
[10:46] Shai : Not in BNF as we are below val still
[10:47] RK : BNF above open high would roll fast
[10:47] RK : quick dash to KRA from there
[10:51] Shai : vols – http://screencast.com/t/GJUgyZ9fhp
[11:24] Rahul P : shai, can we have a weekly composite profile for nf plz ?
[11:26] Hari : @shai, 8200 CS stop is approaching, ie 64, should we exit in case stop hit?
[11:27] Hari : *CE
[11:28] Shai : Movve stop of 8200 ce to 61 – we will exit if it
[11:28] Rahul P : shai, weekly composite plz
[11:28] Rahul P : for nf
[11:29] Shai : will update
[11:29] Shai : NF vol spike has buyers
[11:31] Rahul P : big dump…..212
[11:31] Hari : oh man
[11:31] Shai : yeah another vol spike
[11:31] Shai : tis is bigger
[11:32] Rahul P : no follow through yet 🙂
[11:32] Hari : dump volume is getting bigger and growing!
[11:32] Dharam : plz share the volume spike chart here also..thanks
[11:34] Gangesh : sir how can we derive hypo level ourself?
[11:34] Shai : NF weekly- http://screencast.com/t/mBDNlTVxQ4
[11:34] Rahul P : thanks mate
[11:35] RK : Shai this big red a fresh sell?
[11:35] Shai : Dharam vol spike chart is live – the 5 min vol pane
[11:35] Shai : Yes RK could be algos in opp
[11:36] RK : but he is absorbed quickly
[11:36] Naresh : how do we interpret ,such big volume with out much price movement ?
[11:37] Hari : That dump was not bad, resilent
[11:38] Hari : 8160 is being fiercly protected, huh
[11:40] RK : that dump guy brought dPOC down with him..
[11:40] Rahul P : responsive selling it seems….no follow up
[11:40] Hari : probably FII liquidating longs
[11:46] RK : what’s the logic behind such single order dump in a dull mkt that too in no sell region..algo seems pressed F2 instead of F1 🙂
[11:46] Rahul P : looks like a cover order triggered
[11:48] Shai : and looks like he cobered immedaitely after the sell
[11:49] RK : so we have company in big boys too..i.e, hit the button and immediately realise that you did a blunder 🙂
[11:49] Hari : @RK, you made my day
[11:49] Hari : ROFLMAO
[11:49] RK : 🙂
[11:50] r m : @RK, probably that guy pressed F2 instead of F1 🙂
[11:50] RK : RM seems so..ask him hit F1 properly now when we reach vwap 🙂
[11:50] RK : *to hit
[11:51] r m : lol
[11:51] Rahul P : good that F2 did not drive the price down
[11:51] Rahul P : else we could have seen the old kra 8130
[11:52] r m : @Rahul, there are always folks around to buy or sell, so many are in love with the fairest price!
[11:55] Naresh : how the green and purple line trades happen ? buy when the line turns green above that bar ?
[11:56] Shai : yeah they are net of buy and sell vols and denote more buying or selling if pink
[11:58] Shai : anybody has the latest numbers on the coffeee day IPO?
[11:58] Shai : everyone said avoid 🙂
[12:01] r m : only QIBs have fully subscribed so far http://screencast.com/t/n10rKhmsa3M
[12:01] RK : should be fully subscribed today
[12:01] r m : till yesterday
[12:02] RK : 75% till yday
[12:02] r m : yes
[12:03] Shai : interesting data RM- even the employees haven’t booked 🙂
[12:04] r m : 🙂
[12:04] r m : they know the best 🙂
[12:04] Anay : 🙂
[12:05] r m : 81% subscribed till 11 AM
[12:05] Hari : coffee day going the discount mode, 50% off after 8 pm, under pressure to show volume
[12:05] Hari : another fail like YUM
[12:06] Hari : volume and footfall
[12:06] Hari : going public will kill them
[12:08] Shai : Sell NF 8164 sl of 8185 tgt 8146/ 8128 – go with 50% size only
[12:09] Shai : go with reduced sizes as mkt volume is not good
[12:10] RK : who did that from this room? 🙂
[12:11] Ashish : everyone 🙂
[12:11] RK : but he asked to go with 50% and it seems all did 200% 🙂
[12:11] Ashish : LOL
[12:11] Hari : omg!
[12:12] Uttam : guess all got bored & I opt to get go of this call
[12:12] Uttam : 8200 CE SL hit
[12:14] Anay : looks like RK covered at 8155
[12:16] RK : lol noway..am kind of poor fellow buying highs and selling lows 🙂
[12:18] Rahul P : tempting to go long here 🙁
[12:21] Hari : someone has sold at market instead of limit
[12:23] RK : very very poor volume
[12:24] Shai : bring sl to 8174 on the NF short trade. low conviction market today
[12:25] RK : Shai can we go for SAR at 8176 for 80%?
[12:26] Hari : VIX recovered from the lows!
[12:28] Shai : yes RK may do 8200- 8206
[12:28] RK : yes
[12:30] RK : IBL/dPOC combo
[12:33] Shai : exit the NF short trade 8160/61 now
[12:33] Shai : we will stay falt for sometime and see if we get a friday weekly inventory move
[12:34] Shai : dpoc weekly is here at 8156 still
[12:34] Shai : flat*
[12:34] Jay null : inventory move till 8206?
[12:47] Hari : Europe opened in deep green
[12:48] RK : just 0.5% up
[12:48] Anay : nope. it’s flat
[12:49] RK : Yep +ve flat
[12:49] Anay : my nope was to Hari 😉
[12:49] RK : thats understood 🙂
[12:50] Anay : DAX Fut are -ve flat in fact 🙂
[12:50] Hari : you must see in the context of yday closing, there is a follow thro buying considering the fact that US market expiry is today, not bad
[12:51] Anay : ok. are you long? 🙂
[12:51] RK : Anay you are checking through data vendor?
[12:51] Anay : GCI MT4
[12:52] r m : http://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
[12:52] Hari : nope, no positions until VIX picks up
[12:52] Hari : else whipsaws only
[12:52] RK : Yes RM..investing and yahoo says 0.5 % up..but delayed 5-10 mins..GCI perfect
[12:52] Hari : check investing.com, accurate data
[12:53] RK : havent opened GCI for years now
[12:53] Anay : 🙂
[12:53] Anay : I have been using it for 5 yrs now
[12:53] Hari : Sensex., nifty volatile!!!!!
[12:53] Anay : for Forex as well
[12:53] RK : when I was working, GCI is the first thing I open in the morning before start checking mails 🙂
[12:53] Hari : junk news
[12:53] Anay : 🙂
[12:54] RK : but I learnt all technical indicators from GCI only though concluded not to use any of them for trading later 🙂
[12:55] Anay : True 🙂
[12:55] RK : broco was the best platform than GCI especially for MCX..poor guys shut down their shop
[12:55] Anay : ok
[12:55] Anay : Never traded on MCX 🙂
[12:56] RK : poor office guys like me had MCX as only choice to learn adventures 🙂
[12:57] r m : 🙂
[12:57] Varun : shai vpoc still stands at 94/96 fr 2 day
[12:57] Varun : ?
[12:58] RK : somebody resumed after Friday brunch to check his inventory..good single volume in both charts simultaneously
[12:59] Porus : what is the GCI URL?
[13:00] Varun : rk sometimes we burn the midnite oil to take out random nos 😉 https://twitter.com/sweetspottrader/status/654742891353411584
[13:00] RK : I saw it mate 🙂
[13:01] RK : 8140 and 17600 are my nos..save them..cant take another whip 🙂
[13:02] Shai : yes 2 day dpoc at 8193 only
[13:03] Shai : 8177- 8193- 8201
[13:03] RK : 1’o clock and just 40 lacs vol..
[13:04] Varun : thanks shai
[13:04] Varun : too boring for a friday
[13:04] RK : yes
[13:05] Varun : 2 day i think bell curve done
[13:05] Varun : another trend day in waiting outside value
[13:05] Varun : rm where r u my friend
[13:05] RK : but where was the first trend day which we were all awaiting ? 🙂
[13:06] Varun : actually everyone was waiting for it na 😉
[13:06] Varun : so it decided other ways
[13:06] RK : yday it was about to be but they fused it 🙂
[13:06] Rahul P : today’s opening spoilt it
[13:07] Rahul P : morning sgx was looking promising
[13:07] RK : even SGX lost hope now a days..all through the night they trade +/- 20
[13:07] Rahul P : this week has been bad for sgx, last week it was giving good +-100 pts whipsaws
[13:08] Hemant : Varun, Sonia Gandhi’s hand is visible in NF & BNF today
[13:08] Varun : give me my hand of 50 points
[13:08] Varun : rest le loh jo lena hain
[13:09] Hemant : Damad will get anxious if he too doesnt get his 50
[13:20] Tejpreet : True data services back .
[13:21] r m : yes, but today’s missing data will be uploaded only at EOD 🙁
[13:21] Tejpreet : Thanks was wondering why charts looking crappy
[13:21] RK : so you guys now provide volumes as your charts are back!
[13:22] Tejpreet : No good RK ..printing from K period only.
[13:22] RK : so we have to live with this low volume grinding then 🙂
[13:23] Anay : ohh. this is bad. was planning to subscribe today itself. lol
[13:29] Anay : rm is serially RTing NJAC tweets 😉
[13:30] r m : only those which I agree with 😀
[13:30] Anay : of course 🙂
[13:30] Varun : rm 2 day combo profile dikhao
[13:30] Varun : 😉
[13:31] r m : @Varun, data missing today, profle mein hole hai 😉
[13:31] Varun : aap sab miley huey ho ji
[13:31] Varun : shai cn we see the merge 2 day
[13:31] Varun : profile nf
[13:33] Shai : NF and bnf both tpo meged
[13:33] Varun : nf
[13:33] Shai : 2 day balance
[13:33] RK : on the screens?
[13:33] Varun : thnks
[13:33] RK : yes.got it
[13:34] Varun : seems one more visit to 88 will fill rm’s dimple
[13:34] r m : Balance above balance, Ya Khuda!
[13:34] RK : and 760
[13:35] Varun : yup
[13:35] Varun : poc still high
[13:36] r m : BN profile looks like someone has taken a bite off it 🙂
[13:36] Anay : lol
[13:36] Varun : i hope mondays not used to fill the lvn
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[13:44] Sankar : whithout even looking at any chart, can tell 8130 is a HVN.
[13:44] Varun : @tej whts vix
[13:45] Tejpreet : 16.6
[13:45] Varun : and any relevance we can draw
[13:45] Varun : shldnt we get aslow straight move
[13:45] Varun : with low vix
[13:46] Tejpreet : Yes …am looking to buy a straddle if vix hits 15 …then let nifty go anywhere!
[13:46] r m : low vix suggests that witers expecting eternal balancing 🙂
[13:46] r m : *writers
[13:47] RK : low vix in a low volume mkt is like retirement life..nothing moves 🙂
[13:47] Sankar : lol.
[13:47] r m : 🙂
[13:47] Tejpreet : 🙂
[13:49] Hemant : RM, i misread witers as “winters” expecting balancing 🙂
[13:50] Hemant : Mental slugfest
[13:51] r m : @Hemant 🙂
[13:53] Tejpreet : A point of interest from Wells Fargo blog …..There were many fewer instances of big market movements coming out of a low volume and low volatility time periods than out of other time periods.
[13:53] Hemant : Then market is blunt.. 0 edge, 0 hedge, 0 position.
[13:55] Shai : 8200 ce update: we got hit on premium decay – still a hold at cmp for Momday trade- can buy 50% here and 50% at close sl of 53 on Mon
[13:55] Anay : what do you mean by many fewer? Oxymoron 😀
[13:55] Hemant : Who applied anasthesia today to the market??
[13:56] Tejpreet : Good catch Anay !
[13:56] r m : i thought market applied anasthesia to us 🙂
[13:56] Hemant : Momday Shai 🙂
[13:57] Hemant : That seems to be correct RM 🙂
[13:58] r m : actually when there is low volume open within value and range, we should go out and see morning show 🙂
[13:58] Anay : already seen 3 movies in a week 😉
[13:58] r m : come back at Europe Open, take lunch followed by nap 🙂
[13:58] r m : lol
[13:59] Hemant : Movies? Monday morning? 🙂
[14:05] RK : Drive,Ides of March,Lookout,Hard eight,the informant..this week movies 🙂
[14:06] r m : 🙂
[14:06] r m : looks like Exchanges must be funding multiplexes 🙂
[14:06] Tejpreet : Next scam caught by RM
[14:07] RK : no Man I wont get english movies screening here..all through videos 🙂
[14:07] RK : here we get only tamil speaking James bonds 🙂
[14:08] Anay : @RK where do u stay?
[14:08] RK : Karur..Geogrraphically heart of Tamilnadu..
[14:10] RK : Varun see how these dimples are powerful to lure 🙂
[14:10] Anay : ok
[14:10] Anay : NF going for 80%
[14:10] Varun : thts y asked for it
[14:10] Varun : 😉
[14:11] Anay : BNF as well now 😉
[14:12] Hemant : Ty Doc, I’d almost slept for the last 3 hours.. will try to get hold of those titles
[14:13] Dharam : how’s the volume in this 20 pts nifty move relatively speaking!!!
[14:13] Hari : agressive selling in BNF at the top
[14:14] r m : @RK, in which street? 🙂 http://screencast.com/t/GgBtcDv6
[14:14] Shai : Dharam when vol comes above the blue line in the vol chart it is higher
[14:15] Anay : NF does 80%. ab BNF ki baari
[14:15] RK : lol..
[14:17] Anay : almost done in BNF as well 🙂
[14:18] RK : we are in for 8285 and 18K
[14:19] Shai : 8200 ce at 100
[14:20] Uttam : BNF positional above 17850 Shai?
[14:20] Shai : don’t buy here
[14:21] Janak : nf target 8250/69?
[14:21] Uttam : but positional buy gets triggered if closes above 17850 today right?
[14:22] Shai : yes
[14:22] Shai : 8248 tgt Janak
[14:26] Shai : NF 8213 a support here
[14:30] Shai : NF can do 8268 now
[14:30] Shai : one row of sellers liquidated
[14:33] Shai : BTST : Buy BNF 17923 sl of 17780 tgt 18060/ 18345
[14:33] Hemant : 8248 well done Shai 🙂
[14:34] Shai : NF R/R is not good on intra butt 8268 possible here sl of 8213
[14:35] Shai : 8308 possible if BNF rallies
[14:35] Janak : vow shai
[14:36] Hemant : Shai, is ok to buy 8100 PE as some protection?
[14:37] Anay : spending lot of time above vwap + 3sd
[14:37] Shai : Yes Heamnt will be good that PE
[14:38] Hemant : Great
[14:38] Shai : Hemant*
[14:38] Hemant : Ty Shai
[14:38] Varun : what a move
[14:39] Varun : man
[14:39] Shai : 8200 ce should have hit 117 on this move to 8248, we need to prep the charts up for vix decay better
[14:40] Uttam : we still hold the CE right Shai?
[14:40] Shai : yes
[14:40] Varun : shai small work i did last nite https://twitter.com/sweetspottrader/status/654739920989241344
[14:40] Varun : and conviction wins
[14:40] Uttam : superb entry we got just under 70
[14:41] Uttam : yes Varun, was going through all your tweets, super work. U rock man, keep it going…
[14:42] Rahul P : build acceptance here…next week 8330 wide open
[14:42] Shai : Nice Varun just saw it
[14:42] Varun : 🙂
[14:43] Kiran : Shai that 1000 point BNF trade on ?
[14:43] Shai : Kiran that is higher near 18200
[14:43] Shai : will update that on weekend
[14:43] Kiran : ok
[14:44] Shai : for now we should get 18060 though orderflow suggests we will come down for a test again
[14:45] Shai : 8200 ce hits tgt 1 now-
[14:49] Varun : monday will go in balncing thse 60 point singles now
[14:49] Shai : Part book the BNF BTST at 17980 – bring sl to 17920 on balance
[14:49] Shai : we may pull back a bit
[14:50] Shai : even in NF 8268 was the obj
[14:50] Shai : may pull back
[14:50] Janak : or reliance rally is over and monday onwards – it is all the way to bears?
[14:51] Varun : shai if which has higher vol in 8100/8240 bal
[14:52] Varun : 8195 or 8160
[14:52] Sankar : So finally, Shai, KRA will be at bottom frm tomrw again. Hope that won’t be 8130 🙂
[14:53] r m : 🙂
[14:57] Anay : @Varun 8100-8240 balance https://www.dropbox.com/s/cx93aiai7hxq676/NF%20VP%20Comp.png?dl=0
[14:58] Shai : vpoc os balance move to 8185
[14:58] Janak : only index is going up – stocks are being sold heavily?
[14:58] RK : do Ctrl+F for 8285 and read that conversation..it might be helpful next week 🙂 http://vtrender.com/orderflow-charts-and-notes-030915/
[14:58] Shai : yes 8135 almost equal
[15:01] Varun : these singles will be pain
[15:01] Shai : Nice RK
[15:01] Varun : for bears now
[15:01] Varun : n period
[15:01] Shai : Finally RM has some competition here in googling data 🙂
[15:01] r m : 🙂
[15:01] RK : Yes Shai..bigger time frame helps from minor jitteries 🙂
[15:02] Shai : Sankar yes – on 2 counts as FA when crossed should stay aboe also
[15:02] Shai : above*
[15:02] RK : 🙂
[15:02] Shai : 8248 F supp followed by 8206 as NF heads to meeet that seller
[15:04] Sankar : 🙂
[15:04] RK : have been waiting for this day from Mid sep 🙂
[15:05] Varun : rk those who dnt trade in bal cant get the imbalnce proved again
[15:05] Varun : 😉
[15:05] Shai : Friday afternoon brought a dead/ dull day to life
[15:06] Uttam : BNF TSL can be removed now Shai?
[15:06] RK : Varun true..but this time trading balance tested patience after some long time..I was expecting similar move below 8090 but yday morning gap up changed colours in my shed from red to green 🙂
[15:06] Shai : hold Uttam another 5 mins
[15:07] Uttam : ok Shai
[15:08] Shai : Book out all 8200 ce- we will take a fresh option on Mon- 115 now
[15:08] RK : RM MO could be at 45-50?
[15:11] r m : let me check
[15:11] RK : 33 lacs vol in last candle which is huge..all stops for positional below that..
[15:12] RK : Sankar your KRA for Monday there 🙂
[15:12] Naresh : any btsm in Nifty ?
[15:13] Naresh : sorry. missed the abv mseesge from Shai
[15:13] Sankar : 🙂
[15:13] r m : @RK, MO at 34, Adv/Dec is only 782/713
[15:13] RK : thanks RM..
[15:14] Varun : all dips to 8200 shld be bought
[15:14] Varun : this buyer will protect it for many days
[15:14] Varun : like the one at 8090
[15:14] Varun : did
[15:15] Varun : and today 8150 did
[15:15] Sankar : 8145 was a good one Varun 🙂
[15:15] RK : RM that 2 lac sell and scratch around 8160 had some purpose :))
[15:16] Varun : 🙂
[15:16] RK : I have recently seen one video in twitter about a fish being caught by crane or something..perfect example of Order flow and this 2 lac order reminds that 🙂
[15:16] r m : yes RK, it was aimed at my shorts 🙂
[15:17] RK : oops
[15:17] Janak : shai chances of a flat / gap down open are there?
[15:17] r m : @RK, nothing much, a routine short below IBL it was 🙂
[15:17] RK : fine 🙂
[15:23] Shai : Booking the BNF BTST fully here at 17980 butother positionals can carry
[15:23] Shai : flat for a fresh Monday
[15:23] Shai : Janak difficult to call a Mon
[15:26] RK : 18K- closing BNF intra longs 🙂
[15:27] RK : if we have another 5 mins extra, Shai will get his 18050 🙂
[15:27] r m : we have 3 minutes 🙂
[15:27] RK : I mean 3+5
[15:27] RK : 🙂
[15:27] Uttam : injury time 😉 RK
[15:28] RK : Uttam 🙂
[15:31] Tejpreet : Bye All.
[15:32] Shai : Bye all
[15:32] Shai : Have a nice weekend
[15:32] Uttam : have a good weekend all 🙂 thanks Shai
[15:32] r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great weekend 🙂
[15:32] Sankar : Thank you and have a nice weekend all 🙂
[15:32] Sandeep69 : bye
Custom Chat Transcript
Room Name: Vtrender
Date and Time: October 16, 2015 09:08:23[09:24] Augustin : @Shai – What will be the good entry in Tata Motors for positional?
[09:25] Tejpreet : Shai views on BPCL .
[09:26] R Goel : augustin are you asking for shorts?
[09:27] Janak : shai can sell dlf with a sl of 135 for 128?
[09:29] Augustin : Longs
[09:29] Augustin : It has had a break out
[09:30] Augustin : wanted to know if the RR is good to go long here
[09:31] Janak : shai can sell indtree?
[09:31] Janak : mindtree
[09:31] Shai : TTM don’t add longs here
[09:31] Shai : best place for a positional long is near 360/ 348 in next few days
[09:31] Augustin : Ok
[09:32] R Goel : ok
[09:33] Janak : sold mindtree around 1445 now 1420 tgt can be below 1400 shai?
[09:34] Gaurav : Havells seeing any volume here Shai?
[09:35] Shai : BPCL still good abv 904 and can do 919/ 928
[09:37] Shai : dlg has to break 130 for 126.6 on the gap down
[09:37] Tejpreet : Thanks Shai
[09:37] Shai : dlf*
[09:38] Janak : ok
[09:40] Shai : mindtree 1416 may support
[10:33] Uttam : Shai views on CoalIndia? good for longs if today’s high taken out
[10:40] Shai : coal india support at 332 s good but positionals come back over 346 closing only as RB till then
[11:00] Uttam : thanks Shai, having a feeling we may get that close today, lets see
[11:02] RK : Shai Hero can push through this 2600 or intra obj done here?
[11:06] Shai : hero not great buying or vols but will do well today on weekly close abv 2566 this week.
[11:07] Shai : There is that 100 point balance area abovve 2610 roughly which am also looking at …should be a quick move abv that
[11:08] RK : lready in longs from 2525..as we have highs of 12th Oct here, wanted to know if wait for breakout here or better to close
[11:08] Ashish : Shai, bajaj-auto resistance levels?
[11:08] RK : ok..will lock this in hold box 🙂
[11:08] r m : 🙂
[11:09] RK : Yeah sensing many stocks reaching such vacuum area now..yday 40 points gap up changed many things 🙂
[11:09] RK : *60 points
[11:12] Shai : RK I think trail to 2665 and giving it a chance makes sense
[11:12] Shai : 2566*
[11:12] RK : Shai Yes will do that..thanks
[11:15] Shai : babaj res at 2510 , spiking up now
[11:15] Shai : bajaj*
[11:15] Ashish : Thanks Shai
[12:22] Sumit K : Shai – ESSARPORTS levels
[12:27] Shai : essar vol spike
[12:27] Shai : technically projects vol tgt of 170 on postnl
[12:29] Gaurav : If anyone can repost Shai’s response to Havells qury please. Thanks
[12:32] Shai : havells supp at 256 holding and moving today on good vls tgt 263-624
[12:32] Shai : 264*
[12:32] Gaurav : Thanks Shai
[13:07] Gaurav : How is Glenmark looking at these levels Shai?
[13:31] Shai : glenmark has nice support at 980 below but not very decisive gere at cmp
[13:32] Shai : at 1072 had a grest opp to push out shorts but now waiting on buyers to come back
[13:32] Shai : will watch 1027 for price behavior next week
[13:33] Gaurav : Thanks Shai
[14:32] Vaibhav : shai can u pl check ipca labs , for a positional view.
[14:32] Vaibhav : i am expecting good moves from here on
[14:43] Uttam : Shai view on SBI weekly close, longs can be carried here?
[14:45] Uttam : also views on BHEL & Arvind
[14:51] Shai : ipca see a bracket and top of the balance at 777, the move so far good but a close abv 777 can only bring short covering and a new move
[14:52] Shai : supp at 743
[14:53] Shai : yes sbin use 249 as TSL into Mon
[14:54] Shai : bhel also good to carry
[14:54] Uttam : thanks Shai
[14:55] Shai : arvind a close abv 295 wuld have been better, but current vols of today’s rise are not justifyinga big move
[14:56] Uttam : oh ok…thanks Shai
[15:08] Gaurav : Shai KSCL and yes bank can be carried?
[15:11] Shai : yes bank good buying but mon upsise may get capped at 780
[15:12] Shai : personally feel SBI as a carry can reward moe
[15:12] Gaurav : Thanks
[15:13] Shai : kscl waiting on data
[15:13] Gaurav : Thanks pls do have a look testing patience this KSCL . lol
[15:17] Shai : I’m afraid I won’t get data on KSCL now, theere is a system issue which comes on Friday on esignal for new entries
[15:17] Shai : sorry abt that
[15:19] Gaurav : Oh ok. No problem Shai
[15:19] Shai : RIL the street is expecting good numbers but at 912 seeing a seller from 1 hour so can give 885 to 940
[15:24] Uttam : Shai any views on TechM?
[15:27] Shai : kscl closing is weak but managing to stay abv 455 for now – is RB
[15:27] Gaurav : Thank You Shai
[15:32] Shai : techM did not get data
[15:32] Shai : will update Mon
[15:32] Uttam : no porbs
[15:32] Uttam : probs*
Date and Time: October 16, 2015 09:08:23[09:24] Augustin : @Shai – What will be the good entry in Tata Motors for positional?
[09:25] Tejpreet : Shai views on BPCL .
[09:26] R Goel : augustin are you asking for shorts?
[09:27] Janak : shai can sell dlf with a sl of 135 for 128?
[09:29] Augustin : Longs
[09:29] Augustin : It has had a break out
[09:30] Augustin : wanted to know if the RR is good to go long here
[09:31] Janak : shai can sell indtree?
[09:31] Janak : mindtree
[09:31] Shai : TTM don’t add longs here
[09:31] Shai : best place for a positional long is near 360/ 348 in next few days
[09:31] Augustin : Ok
[09:32] R Goel : ok
[09:33] Janak : sold mindtree around 1445 now 1420 tgt can be below 1400 shai?
[09:34] Gaurav : Havells seeing any volume here Shai?
[09:35] Shai : BPCL still good abv 904 and can do 919/ 928
[09:37] Shai : dlg has to break 130 for 126.6 on the gap down
[09:37] Tejpreet : Thanks Shai
[09:37] Shai : dlf*
[09:38] Janak : ok
[09:40] Shai : mindtree 1416 may support
[10:33] Uttam : Shai views on CoalIndia? good for longs if today’s high taken out
[10:40] Shai : coal india support at 332 s good but positionals come back over 346 closing only as RB till then
[11:00] Uttam : thanks Shai, having a feeling we may get that close today, lets see
[11:02] RK : Shai Hero can push through this 2600 or intra obj done here?
[11:06] Shai : hero not great buying or vols but will do well today on weekly close abv 2566 this week.
[11:07] Shai : There is that 100 point balance area abovve 2610 roughly which am also looking at …should be a quick move abv that
[11:08] RK : lready in longs from 2525..as we have highs of 12th Oct here, wanted to know if wait for breakout here or better to close
[11:08] Ashish : Shai, bajaj-auto resistance levels?
[11:08] RK : ok..will lock this in hold box 🙂
[11:08] r m : 🙂
[11:09] RK : Yeah sensing many stocks reaching such vacuum area now..yday 40 points gap up changed many things 🙂
[11:09] RK : *60 points
[11:12] Shai : RK I think trail to 2665 and giving it a chance makes sense
[11:12] Shai : 2566*
[11:12] RK : Shai Yes will do that..thanks
[11:15] Shai : babaj res at 2510 , spiking up now
[11:15] Shai : bajaj*
[11:15] Ashish : Thanks Shai
[12:22] Sumit K : Shai – ESSARPORTS levels
[12:27] Shai : essar vol spike
[12:27] Shai : technically projects vol tgt of 170 on postnl
[12:29] Gaurav : If anyone can repost Shai’s response to Havells qury please. Thanks
[12:32] Shai : havells supp at 256 holding and moving today on good vls tgt 263-624
[12:32] Shai : 264*
[12:32] Gaurav : Thanks Shai
[13:07] Gaurav : How is Glenmark looking at these levels Shai?
[13:31] Shai : glenmark has nice support at 980 below but not very decisive gere at cmp
[13:32] Shai : at 1072 had a grest opp to push out shorts but now waiting on buyers to come back
[13:32] Shai : will watch 1027 for price behavior next week
[13:33] Gaurav : Thanks Shai
[14:32] Vaibhav : shai can u pl check ipca labs , for a positional view.
[14:32] Vaibhav : i am expecting good moves from here on
[14:43] Uttam : Shai view on SBI weekly close, longs can be carried here?
[14:45] Uttam : also views on BHEL & Arvind
[14:51] Shai : ipca see a bracket and top of the balance at 777, the move so far good but a close abv 777 can only bring short covering and a new move
[14:52] Shai : supp at 743
[14:53] Shai : yes sbin use 249 as TSL into Mon
[14:54] Shai : bhel also good to carry
[14:54] Uttam : thanks Shai
[14:55] Shai : arvind a close abv 295 wuld have been better, but current vols of today’s rise are not justifyinga big move
[14:56] Uttam : oh ok…thanks Shai
[15:08] Gaurav : Shai KSCL and yes bank can be carried?
[15:11] Shai : yes bank good buying but mon upsise may get capped at 780
[15:12] Shai : personally feel SBI as a carry can reward moe
[15:12] Gaurav : Thanks
[15:13] Shai : kscl waiting on data
[15:13] Gaurav : Thanks pls do have a look testing patience this KSCL . lol
[15:17] Shai : I’m afraid I won’t get data on KSCL now, theere is a system issue which comes on Friday on esignal for new entries
[15:17] Shai : sorry abt that
[15:19] Gaurav : Oh ok. No problem Shai
[15:19] Shai : RIL the street is expecting good numbers but at 912 seeing a seller from 1 hour so can give 885 to 940
[15:24] Uttam : Shai any views on TechM?
[15:27] Shai : kscl closing is weak but managing to stay abv 455 for now – is RB
[15:27] Gaurav : Thank You Shai
[15:32] Shai : techM did not get data
[15:32] Shai : will update Mon
[15:32] Uttam : no porbs
[15:32] Uttam : probs*