General Chat Transcript
Date and Time: May 20, 2015 09:19:48
[08:50] r m : Good Morning folks!
[08:50] r m : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-20th-may/
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[08:50] r m : Nifty MAY Future levels| Key Reference Area 8386| Hypo1 above 8386➜8418➜8436 SL 8341| Hypo2 below 8325➜8297➜8269 SL 8357
[08:51] r m : Banknifty MAY Future levels| KRA 18465| Hypo1 above 18465➜18540➜18627 SL 18345| Hypo2 below 18266➜18173 SL 18366
[08:51] Porus : GM RM and all
[08:51] Sudhakar : GM all
[08:53] r m : Hi Porus
[08:54] r m : Results today – Tatasteel, Bharat Forge
[08:54] r m : Results tomorrow – Bajaj Auto
[08:58] Shai : GM all
[09:01] Pawandeep : GM Shai, rm & friends 🙂
[09:02] r m : Hi Pawandeep
[09:03] r m : @Shai, yesterday the area near 8345 was heavily traded, does it still remain LVN?
[09:03] Hemant : GM folks
[09:04] Venkatesan : gm shai, rm and friends
[09:04] r m : Hi Venkatesan
[09:04] Shai : Yes RM what we are doing is that giviing it one week of volume for us to change the zone
[09:05] RK : Hi Shai,Rm and friend..good morning 🙂
[09:05] r m : ok, thanks
[09:05] Shai : just like we use Values of the prev week
[09:05] r m : Hi RK 🙂
[09:05] Shai : we will review ened of week only
[09:05] r m : OK Shai, clear now, thanks
[09:05] Tejpreet : GM All.
[09:06] Shai : NF hypos are the same as yesterday as auction expected out is similar
[09:06] Shai : but we should see an inside day today
[09:07] Tejpreet : If you are expecting inside day should the opening jump be sold into.
[09:07] Tejpreet : Say around 8410-8420
[09:07] Shai : or withn 8418- 8303 F
[09:08] Tejpreet : ok….thanks.
[09:08] Shai : Yes Tejpreet sell if 8390 resists
[09:08] Keshav : gm all
[09:09] Soumya : Good Morning Friends
[09:10] Sumit : GM everyone
[09:11] Mahesh : GuDmRnG………..
[09:11] Sharad : GM all
[09:12] Sumit : Shai, I was reading the chat of last few days…. this LVN/HVN are working really well. Can you give out levels or 1-2 LVN/HVN’s above and below
[09:12] Sumit : *levels of
[09:12] r m : they are already there on the left top of the chart
[09:12] Rajat : Gm ALL
[09:12] r m : Shai thinks of everything 🙂
[09:12] Rajat : can i also see market profile charts in this screen?
[09:12] Sumit : ok nice 🙂 thanks rm
[09:12] r m : extreme right Rajat
[09:13] Rajat : ohh
[09:13] Rajat : got it now
[09:13] r m : welcome Sumit 🙂
[09:14] Ashish : Gm all
[09:18] Venkatesan : low higher than vwap is good sign shai?
[09:20] Shai : NO selling yet
[09:20] Shai : 8427 was the first seller yesterday
[09:21] Shai : Yes Venkatesan
[09:21] Venkatesan : thbak u
[09:22] Shai : Open stronger than expected
[09:22] Shai : weakness if any is below 8390 F only
[09:24] Hemant : With this move yesterday’s poor high is repaired ?
[09:24] Shai : there was no poor high yesterday
[09:25] Shai : still buyers
[09:25] Hemant : Ok got it
[09:25] Shai : No sign of yesterday seller
[09:25] Shai : same zone
[09:25] Soumya : trend day?
[09:25] Shai : can be
[09:26] Shai : Buy NF 50% qty only sl of 8390 tgt 8476
[09:32] Shai : still buyers
[09:32] Shai : went with 50% qty as y’day seller in this zone was big
[09:35] Varun : shai these last few sellers or buyers
[09:39] Shai : sellers now
[09:40] Varun : whts the filter for a lvn @shai
[09:40] Shai : push it over 8436 and we can see 8534 ahead
[09:42] r m : @Shai, so longs can be added above Day High with vwap as stop or waiting out IB period is better?
[09:42] Shai : IB s better now
[09:42] r m : Thanks
[09:42] Shai : we are still strong abv 8417
[09:46] Shai : Place orders to exit NF at 8437
[09:53] Shai : we are taking an exit in NF here as trade became 50- 50 but bias for day is still up now with sl of 8404
[09:53] Shai : intra tgt 8476
[09:53] Shai : we will review a new bUY after IB is done
[09:54] RK : Shai view or Hero pls..holding long
[09:54] Shai : best buy in BNF is at 18450 on a ip tgt 18650 sl 18380
[09:54] Shai : dip**
[09:56] Shai : hero postn res at 2607 still good as long as 2545 holds
[09:56] Vivek K : shai sir, anything on tatamotrs? the jaguar has been a pussy cat off late
[09:57] RK : thanks
[10:06] Porus : Shai, pls expand bnf chart. Cant see numbers.
[10:07] Ashish : Hge sellers Shai?
[10:08] Ashish : Huge*
[10:10] Pawandeep : @ shai how much time given for acceptance or rejection of value ?
[10:11] Pawandeep : or what parameters for acceptance or rejection of value ?
[10:12] Ashish : Ultratech achieved 3k :), thanks shai
[10:13] r m : @Ashish, congrats man, you sure sat tight 🙂
[10:14] Ashish : Yes RM 🙂
[10:15] Ashish : Now waiting for Cesc to come back to shai levels.
[10:15] r m : ok
[10:15] Shai : tata motors not doing anything past 2 weeks
[10:16] Shai : is weak below 512 this week and can do 503/490
[10:16] RK : Yes Tata motors joined Tata steel for being lazy
[10:16] RK : both are yawning like hell
[10:16] Shai : Pawandeeep 30 mins for intra
[10:16] Shai : about 180- 240 mins for week
[10:17] r m : Yawning on the results day – height of laziness 🙂
[10:17] RK : no RM today its showing some nerves 🙂
[10:18] r m : ok, otherwise it as nerves of steel 🙂
[10:18] Shai : 8417 and 8404 to watch in NF
[10:18] RK : lol
[10:20] Pawandeep : thanks Shai:)
[10:21] Ashish : Shai, adnaient. downside targets.
[10:23] Shai : adani not weak till 773.4 breaks
[10:23] Shai : 761 2nd supp below
[10:23] Sudhakar : shai any views on tvsmotor?
[10:24] Ashish : Thanks Shai
[10:24] Shai : can drop to 736/ 712 if that 761 goes
[10:24] Ashish : Ok shai
[10:26] Shai : tvs range bound also
[10:26] Shai : look at 223 or 220 to break on intra to get in
[10:26] Shai : positional movemnet only abv 227 or below 216
[10:27] Sudhakar : thanks shai
[10:27] Varun : shai double tpo above lvn would mean accepetance ?
[10:29] Shai : yes
[10:29] Shai : odds are good now for 8534 again
[10:30] Varun : huge sellers being crossed at ease
[10:31] RK : 10.15 and 10.30 bars looks like mirror image
[10:34] Shai : locals trading each other
[10:34] Shai : OTF pushed it to supply zone and will come back after noon
[10:35] Shai : 2.30 is seeing lots of movemnt again
[10:35] Shai : should be the same today
[10:37] Shai : Buy BNF 18530- 18535 sl of 18470 tgt 18590/ 18625
[10:37] Vinay : hi shai could you share your view on SBIN f
[10:38] Shai : sure
[10:40] Shai : sbin May F 292 .2 is res on week
[10:40] Shai : support below is good at 279
[10:40] Soumya : Auro pharma doing well today also
[10:40] Vinay : ok
[10:40] Soumya : Any targets for it Shai?
[10:40] Vinay : thanks
[10:40] Shai : day will remain strmg abv 287.5
[10:41] Shai : if 292 is crossed on that earnings buzz you can get 300.3 immediately
[10:41] Vinay : yes previuos month high also around that number
[10:41] Vinay : 292-294
[10:42] Shai : ok
[10:42] Shai : auro I think we had 1418 as tgt y’day
[10:42] Shai : stays strong as long as it is abv 1399
[11:03] Soumya : thank you shai
[11:19] Ashish : Triple top in NF..
[11:23] Pawandeep : 09:06 Shai : but we should see an inside day today
[11:24] Shai : that got ruled out: (09:22) Shai :Open stronger than expected
[11:24] Pawandeep : now we r trading above yesterday high so what should we expact
[11:24] Shai : (09:22) Shai :weakness if any is below 8390 F only
[11:26] Shai : 8474
[11:27] Pawandeep : ok
[11:35] Tejpreet : On sustained break of vwap at 8430 can we short nf for 8390 with sl at dy high
[11:42] Shai : better short below 8416 with vwap sl for 8386
[11:43] Tejpreet : ok…still holding on to vwap 🙂
[11:50] Tejpreet : Shai 8400PCR almost 1 up from .55 yesterday if it sustains above 1 does it imply bulls have control over 8400 strike.
[12:10] Shai : yes that would be right way to look at that
[12:14] Shai : heavy sellers
[12:15] Porus : shai, target of this fall in bnf?
[12:16] Shai : weak below 450 only
[12:19] Tejpreet : All dips to VAH being brought into.
[12:19] Shai : yes
[12:19] Shai : buyer showed up at vah
[13:08] Shai : Buy NF abv 8445 sl 8424 tgt 8474
[13:09] Shai : NF at the top of the profile for this series where the buyer is still buying dips but the seller not coming in to cut off the auction
[13:10] Shai : risk of new longs is much more as breakout not confirming but there is no evidence yet of shorts
[13:10] Shai : putting shorts here is against flow in other words
[13:10] RK : 8400 CE from 0.55 yday to 1.05 now
[13:10] RK : PCR
[13:11] Shai : Play is a 8340 – 8540 range nto expiry
[13:36] Shai : Sell NF below 8403 sl 8424 tgt 8386/ 8356
[13:36] Shai : we will trade a break of ths range for a high probability trade
[13:37] Tejpreet : 8445-8403 Range right.
[13:39] Shai : yes mini balance here
[13:41] Pawandeep : THANKS SHAI SIR
[13:52] Soumya : dvah now acting as resistance
[13:52] Soumya : any relevance – shai?
[13:53] Shai : it shows that the mkt accepts current price as value
[13:53] Shai : and that we need to break abv that dvah for a new move
[13:53] Soumya : ok thank you
[13:54] Rahul N : @shai ,i have dlf future short from 130, mystoploss is @ 132, given that today is the result should i book partially or wait for 122 to crack ?
[13:58] Shai : 121.3 should hold up
[13:59] Shai : But the chart is wanting to give a 6 point move immediately which can go either side 115 ot 132
[13:59] Shai : so suggest take profits and step in again tom below 120 or abv 126.5 if opp is there
[14:00] Rahul N : ya that sounds better
[14:00] Rahul N : thanks
[14:00] Shai : welcome 🙂
[14:12] Vivek K : assuming we end up with a P profile today in nf and bnf, does it bodde well for longs?
[14:16] Shai : yes then tom ref line is at today POC- auction abv today POC is positive
[14:16] Shai : what you have to look at is whether value is travelling higher with price
[14:16] Vivek K : okie
[14:17] Shai : yesterday also in that dip the VAH was protected hence I remeber mentioning weakness toay was below 8321- 8345 only
[14:18] Shai : today*
[14:18] RK : yes 8345/8320 was kept as ref for today
[14:18] r m : (09:54) Shai :best buy in BNF is at 18450 on a ip tgt 18650 sl 18380
[14:18] r m : came to 465!
[14:18] Shai : also vah
[14:19] RK : that’s KRA RM 🙂
[14:19] r m : 🙂
[14:19] RK : need fast fingers there 🙂
[14:20] r m : Shai should have been a watchmaker with his kind of precision 🙂
[14:20] RK : 🙂
[14:20] Tejpreet : 🙂
[14:20] Vivek K : swiss watch maker
[14:21] Shai : :)- Trust RM to find words ..
[14:21] r m : lol
[14:26] r m : Shai’s pets 🙂 https://twitter.com/Am_Shai/status/600939048924917761
[14:27] RK : yes that was awesome pic :)..RM, aim is one among that gang soon 🙂
[14:27] RK : *aim is to
[14:27] r m : yeah 🙂
[14:31] r m : 2:30 which way? 🙂
[14:31] Venkatesan : ib and day range are same
[14:31] r m : flat vwap
[14:31] RK : exactly opposite to your guts 🙂
[14:31] r m : yeah, normal day so far
[14:31] r m : lol
[14:32] r m : @RK, even guts are quiet today 🙂
[14:32] Venkatesan : where are the sellers who solld sterday vah
[14:32] RK : yeah..when your guts say somthing, then they come from roof to dump sell orders like anything 🙂
[14:33] r m : lol
[14:33] r m : looks like they called a truce today, but these guys can always attack from behind 🙂
[14:34] Varun : we did same thing in last kvn crossover
[14:34] Varun : lvn”
[14:34] Varun : three balnce days
[14:34] r m : ok
[14:34] Varun : everything hpning in ib thn sleep off
[14:35] Varun : thr is apoor high, should attract price towrds it
[14:35] Venkatesan : 8400 spot strong
[14:35] Varun : both in nf and bnf
[14:36] Varun : shai should do something to seperate vwap and poc first
[14:37] r m : 🙂
[14:39] Venkatesan : only sellers /buyers can change that, shai alone can not do that
[14:41] Venkatesan : take it lightly
[14:41] Venkatesan : to varun
[14:41] r m : everything taken lightly here except levels 🙂
[14:42] Venkatesan : 🙂
[14:42] Varun : lol
[14:42] Varun : lightly :p
[14:43] Varun : all well venkatesan 🙂
[14:48] Venkatesan : total vol 32% lesser than sterday
[14:50] Shai : No 2.30 OTF today
[14:50] Shai : More signs of acceptance here
[14:50] Shai : Upto the bear to come and announce himeslf here like he did yesterday
[14:50] Shai : if that does not happen we continue up
[14:53] Vivek K : market badly needs some isabgol
[14:54] RK : Shai LIC a good short here or its in no trade zone?
[14:56] Shai : No range bound
[14:57] RK : thanks..
[15:00] Shai : repair of poor high
[15:00] Shai : coming
[15:00] Sudhakar : whats that poor high no 8476?
[15:00] Shai : 8449
[15:00] Sudhakar : ok
[15:00] Shai : we may close at day high today
[15:09] Soumya : Bnf big sell bars 2.55 to 3.05
[15:10] Venkatesan : vol very poor
[15:12] Shai : Don’t take the buy abv/ sell below now in NF
[15:14] Venkatesan : stable trading day in may series
[15:15] r m : yeah, BNF is behaving like a tame animal 🙂
[15:16] Porus : shai, any merit in carrying bnf shorts?
[15:20] Shai : Ca Porus looks like it wants to test 18430 tom at openn
[15:20] Shai : sl 18630
[15:20] Porus : Thnks
[15:22] Shai : close abv 8436 F would have been better
[15:23] Shai : BNF little weak at this close also
[15:25] Hemant : Shai, whe does it happen that a value of put increases as the index moves up?
[15:25] Hemant : when*
[15:25] Shai : when vix is up
[15:25] Shai : IV up
[15:26] Shai : some sellers at 8424
[15:26] Hemant : Ty
[15:27] Varun : shai doesnt hemant type situation normally hapn at tops
[15:27] Pawandeep : @Shai we are close above yvah & defended its bulish for 2marow
[15:27] Varun : seen it many time ehn mo at 80
[15:28] Varun : whn
[15:28] Hemant : Varun, I’m not really geeky about numbers, but what I usually observe often raises questions.
[15:29] Hemant : Relatively new to trading on top of that 🙂
[15:29] Varun : no worries
[15:29] Varun : i totally agree with ur pov
[15:29] Venkatesan : thank you shai, rm and friends
[15:30] Varun : i ws just sharing with shai tht i hve also obsrved this at top of a market
[15:30] Tejpreet : Bye all.
[15:30] r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great evening 🙂
[15:30] Shai : Pawandeep has to cross 8428-8436 quickly at open tom
[15:30] Hemant : Goes against the theory learnt so far, and it also means there is much more to learn
[15:30] Shai : else we will go down for a test again
[15:31] Shai : Bye all
[15:31] RK : thanks and bye all
[15:31] Pawandeep : thanks 🙂
[15:31] Shai : Have a nice evening
[15:31] Porus : bye all
[15:31] Sudhakar : bye shai
[15:31] Hemant : Ty Shai
[15:31] Pawandeep : good bye shai, rm and friends
[15:31] Moses : Bye all