General Chat Transcript
Date and Time: September 22, 2014 09:40:41
[09:10] r m : Good Morning folks!
[09:11] Sumit : gm rm
[09:12] r m : Hi Sumit
[09:13] Sharad : Gm all
[09:14] Anay : GM All
[09:16] Shai : Gm all
[09:16] Shai : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-22nd-sept/
[09:16] Mandar : Good morning All.
[09:19] Shai : Open in last week’s poor oirderflow zone
[09:19] Sharad : Good charts… now we can see both
[09:19] Shai : enough buyers seen in first 5 minutes
[09:20] Shai : could be an OAOR
[09:21] Sharad : yes USDINR falling means buying good here
[09:23] Shai : auction wise if we stay below 8085 then 8056 comes first
[09:23] Sharad : but pink … so will buy after green line
[09:23] Shai : above 8085 will give 20 points to 8105/ 8112
[09:28] Shai : lots of buyers in both NF
[09:28] Shai : and BNF
[09:28] Chiranthan : Buy NF now?
[09:28] Shai : yes buy on 8085 cross
[09:28] Chiranthan : SL
[09:29] Shai : 8069
[09:29] Chiranthan : ok
[09:29] Shai : Buy BNF abv 16125 tgt 16170 sl 16095
[09:37] Sumit : Shai, increase th font in NF chart please
[09:39] Shai : better?
[09:39] Sumit : yes thanks
[09:40] Shai : There were some changes made to the display over the weekend to enable better viewing of charts
[09:41] Shai : If you want to see charts in full screen mode, please ensure that the 4 arrows in the tab on the top left and pointing inwards and you click the next box on the right of it
[09:41] Amit J : wow sun gone
[09:43] r m : sunset!
[09:51] Shai : Amit that was a good spot
[09:52] Shai : went right upto the previous week’s supply and came right down
[09:52] Shai : perfect move !
[09:52] Shai : BNF itching to do the 80%
[09:56] Amit J : i am playing for import alert. if that comes than 100 rs fall
[09:57] Shai : ok
[09:57] Sharad : what is import alert amit
[09:59] Amit J : fda inspection outcome – warning
[09:59] Sharad : when it is going to come today?
[10:13] Sharad : Shai what is INR support today
[10:16] Sharad : same 60.70
[10:30] Shai : yes 60.7 and 60.57
[10:30] Sharad : ok Thanks
[10:30] Shai : INR and equity not in sync today
[10:43] Shai : Nifty auction playing out as an OAOR
[10:43] Shai : string buyers near 8070 and some selling coming near 8090
[10:43] Shai : BNF not able to rise abv VAL and is back to vwap
[10:54] Shai : BNf has also nice supporting buyers at day low
[10:58] Shai : Bigger move in NF is above 8112 today and that will take us to 8145/ 8150
[11:08] Shai : NF into a scalpers zone now
[11:08] Shai : most probably will trade 8082- 8096
[11:08] Chiranthan : Continue to hold NF long?
[11:27] Shai : Yes – let’s hold
[11:27] Chiranthan : ok
[11:47] Kathir : Hi Shai RM ge and all friends 🙂
[11:48] r m : Hi Kathir 🙂
[11:50] Kathir : @amit thanks for that sunpharma for 🙂
[11:50] Kathir : @shai thanks for the levels
[12:04] Amit J : welcome Kathir
[12:11] Shai : Kathir- happy to know you capitalised 🙂
[12:11] Shai : all credit only to Amit
[12:13] Shai : 8100 ce and pe at 73
[12:13] Kathir : yes shai 🙂 sold 800 ce ad covered today
[12:13] Shai : good 🙂
[12:13] Shai : Pe’s are covering this morning
[12:15] Mandar : Kathir is an excellent timer and understands against whom to bet;-)
[12:15] Shai : OI change – http://screencast.com/t/Kpaopb6Emmp
[12:16] Shai : It’s typical of expiry week to put people off when a strike is written as 8100 was
[12:16] Shai : friday it was 8100 ce shaken
[12:16] Shai : today it is 8100 pe
[12:17] Shai : I get a feeling we may have some more reruns in this 8056- 8161 range
[12:25] Kathir : @mandar all credit to shai and his charts only. without that i am a balnk paper 🙂
[12:25] Shai : BNf showing new buyers
[12:25] r m : Prayer – God, make me a blank paper 🙂
[12:25] Kathir : lol
[12:32] Mandar : lol
[12:33] Kathir : @shai can we enter fresh long bnf now above 16125 ?
[12:57] Kathir : shai?
[13:05] Shai : yes
[13:05] Narendra : what should be sl in nifty now
[13:05] Shai : 8097
[13:05] Narendra : for that trade above 8112
[13:05] Shai : we are abv vwap
[13:05] Shai : don’t buy here
[13:05] Narendra : ok
[13:05] Shai : well abv vwap band
[13:07] Shai : OrderFlow shows morning buyers booking
[13:07] Shai : those who got long at 8085 can book out fully and wait
[13:07] Shai : we wait for a pull back for the risk to decrease
[13:07] Shai : tgt is still a close at 8140/50
[13:14] Shai : back into vwap
[13:14] Shai : we place a buy abv 8119 now for tgt 8142 ands sl 8104
[13:15] Anay : ok
[13:15] Kathir : shai bnf any buys here again
[13:17] Shai : BNf will do 80%
[13:17] Shai : sl is just below val tgt 16170
[13:18] Shai : 16170/ 16210
[13:22] Shai : remove that 8119 buy order
[13:22] Shai : oops
[13:22] Shai : Market went searchinmg for orders
[13:23] Chiranthan : What is the entry level now?
[13:23] Shai : 8110 sl strict if you got in
[13:24] Shai : we will buy around 8100 again- Orderflow is not as convincing as open of today
[13:24] Chiranthan : ok
[13:24] Shai : feel 8095- 8100 needs to visist
[13:24] Shai : sellers are coming here
[13:30] Shai : early morning buyers v/s responsive sellers
[13:33] Shai : BNf does 80
[13:33] Shai : NF wants to do 80 now
[13:33] Shai : The thing about 80% is that it will happen – whatever the orderflow
[13:35] Shai : If we don’t visist 8100 now and close higher near 8150, buy some 8100 puts for tom – we will visit 8100 F again tom
[13:39] Shai : Charts abv show why the long was safer in the morning than here
[13:39] Shai : 8128 VAL in NF and if we cross that then 8148 VAH on 80% rule
[13:40] Shai : Agressive counter trade is for 8103/ 8095 with sl abv 8129
[13:41] Anay : but 80% rule states that min 30 min shld be spent above/below VAL/VAH for the other extreme to be hit rt?
[13:41] Shai : Yes theoretically and in the olden days that used to be the case
[13:41] Shai : Now no longer 🙂
[13:41] Shai : those days markets were much slower than today
[13:42] Anay : oh ok 🙂
[13:42] Anay : so now…once crossed…should head to other extreme?
[13:42] Shai : yes
[13:43] Anay : ok thanks
[13:43] Shai : mw
[13:43] Kathir : Anay that was cong and this is BJP 🙂
[13:43] Anay : lol
[13:44] Kathir : but dont misatke that bjp is doing the same thing cong did but very faster 🙂
[13:46] r m : lol
[13:47] Anay : 😀
[13:47] Shai : In maharashtra don’t be surprised if we see bjp- ncp together in a month!- Our man Pawar does not like to be away from power 🙂
[13:47] r m : lol
[13:47] Anay : lol
[13:47] r m : he should rename himself Powar 🙂
[13:48] Kathir : lol
[13:48] Shai : The joke here was – what comes after million, billion and trillion dollars- it is pawar 🙂
[13:48] r m : 🙂
[13:49] Kathir : hope this time election commision adds Shai name in the list
[13:49] r m : but he is a very sharp crook, very unlikely to visit a jail 🙂
[13:49] Shai : Like- I have a 100 Pawar dollars 🙂
[13:49] Kathir : 🙂
[13:49] r m : 🙂
[13:50] Shai : acceptance coming in NF abv 8112
[13:50] Kathir : @RM from now our aim is to reach pawar
[13:50] r m : @Shai, what should be the stop for 80% trade in NF if triggered? PDH OK
[13:50] Shai : Looks like we march higher
[13:50] Shai : yes
[13:50] r m : Thanks
[13:51] r m : @Kathir, great aim 🙂
[13:51] Shai : I would have taken that buy at 8114 but orderflow was not supportive
[13:51] r m : ok
[13:52] Shai : looking like a DD now
[13:53] Kathir : 8200 ce 4 low 11.3 high
[13:53] Shai : outside chance of 8221 still in the series
[13:53] Kathir : shai 8150 ce pe pair almost 70 now
[13:54] Shai : but we will look at it if 8162 is crossed
[13:54] Anay : but last 30 min OF heavily in favour of sellers
[13:54] Shai : yes
[13:57] Narendra : what sl now in nifty
[13:58] Anay : 8100 CE in resistance zone
[14:03] Shai : Sl is 8110
[14:04] Shai : surprised to see this red Orderflwo inn NF in this range
[14:04] Shai : we were very positive in the 8115- 8135 zone on friday
[14:05] Shai : One reason could be that we are rolling into OCt and hence the reds here
[14:05] Shai : we will have the Oct OF charts on screen tom
[14:10] Kathir : @rm ge
[14:10] r m : yessir!
[14:11] Kathir : is the option calc in nest working now
[14:12] r m : yes
[14:12] Shai : 80%
[14:13] Shai : 16208 BNF
[14:13] Kathir : @rm ok thanks need some help from you to use that..will u be available in any gmail chat after market hours
[14:14] r m : yes
[14:14] r m : even now available
[14:14] Kathir : now is it ok for you?
[14:14] r m : available but invisible 😀
[14:15] r m : oh yes, always OK
[14:15] Narendra : nifty done?
[14:15] Kathir : 🙂 I am on the way
[14:15] r m : roger
[14:18] Kathir : @rm have sent invi to gmail chat
[14:18] Shai : Narendra 8144 VAH
[14:19] r m : @Kathir, I too sent but have not got anything from you, looks like gmail servers are resting 🙂
[14:20] Shai : NF OCT OF on screen
[14:20] Kathir : 🙂
[14:20] Shai : Push up came through OF in Oct F but sellers are there
[14:24] Shai : BNf big buyers in OCT F
[14:25] Shai : looks like that 16230 will be history now
[14:25] Shai : 16230F of sept
[14:25] Shai : tgt is 16310/ 16397 if we cross 16240 BNF sept F
[14:26] Chiranthan : SL for bnf?
[14:26] Shai : 16195
[14:27] Kathir : nf near 8160 zone
[14:27] Shai : yes 8162 was the seller
[14:28] Anay : whats the action today at that level?
[14:28] Shai : at vwap band- book any longs if holding from 8128
[14:28] Shai : so far seller not visisble at 8162
[14:29] Shai : first sign of the seller at 8163
[14:34] Shai : Looks like seller from fri is cobering
[14:34] Shai : *covering
[14:34] Shai : vol exchange is on the buy side
[14:34] Anay : ok
[14:35] Shai : more buyers now
[14:36] Shai : can we ri=ush to 8221?
[14:36] Anay : what are the chances that the seller fm Friday covered near 8085 itself?
[14:37] Shai : yes good
[14:38] Shai : there were also stuck players on the rise of the trend day
[14:38] Shai : But people keep some sl at costv always
[14:40] Shai : We are doing a small test on OrderFlow & Open Interest co-relations
[14:40] Shai : This came out on friday- EOD data at the close on Friday showed NF reducing 16832 contracts in Sept F of the 19064 it added on thursday. The BNF also shed 2012 Sept contracts. This data may be pointing to a marginally positive close late on Monday afternoon.
[14:40] Anay : 8100 view for 2moro negated?
[14:41] Shai : Not yet
[14:41] Shai : we will see how it runs in last 30 mins
[14:41] Anay : ok
[14:46] Shai : last big seller was at 8132
[14:46] Shai : Price swing up from 8133 is positive
[14:46] Shriraj : cipla f short one covered one holding shall cls it or…..can u pls tell shai…..
[14:47] Shai : sept?
[14:47] Shriraj : current month
[14:47] Shriraj : sold at 627
[14:48] Shai : cipla supp near 607
[14:49] Shriraj : k
[14:49] Shriraj : thnx shai
[14:49] Shai : suggest book but resell tom below 606 as price can drop hard to 592/ 584 if vol is good
[14:50] Shriraj : k thnx
[14:50] Shai : mw
[14:52] Shai : BNf taking it’s time but marching up
[14:55] Shai : if you got it near 240 book part at least near 300- 310
[14:55] Kathir : @anay if that seller covered from 8085 then it is profit booking for him
[14:56] Shai : oh yes- these big players make profits most of the time
[14:56] Anay : yup..of course 🙂
[14:57] Kathir : 🙂
[14:58] Kathir : big red bars
[14:58] Kathir : blue in oct i guess
[14:59] r m : you guessed right!
[14:59] Kathir : oct nf trades at 8225
[15:01] Anay : 8100 CE double top…Friday and today
[15:02] Anay : will buy Oct PEs in last 10 min
[15:03] Shai : 8150 Pe at 25 –
[15:03] Shai : can buy part here and part at close
[15:03] Shai : tgt is 8134 tom
[15:04] Kathir : @shai 8150 ce pe pair 67 now 90 friday 🙂
[15:05] Anay : ok
[15:06] Shai : Yes Kathir
[15:06] Shai : We have a problem with the pair trades if tom we do not go below 8140 spot
[15:07] Shai : then we will close the series at the highs and not 8100 as we held earlier
[15:07] Kathir : ok
[15:07] Shai : BNf should stay abv 16220
[15:10] Shai : spot did not cross fri highs
[15:11] Shai : in Nifty
[15:21] Shai : sellersw coming in NF also
[15:24] Kathir : shai hold that 8150 pe for tomrw?
[15:26] Shai : yes
[15:27] Kathir : ok thankls
[15:27] Shai : BNf closing below 16230 again
[15:28] Shai : spot is at 8140 again
[15:28] Anay : bought Oct 8000 PE at 45
[15:29] Shai : 12.7 Million volume
[15:29] Shai : skewed towrads the downside tom
[15:30] Shai : 23L volume in BNF but that too is skewed down per volume imbalance
[15:30] r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great evening 🙂
[15:30] Shai : Bye all
[15:30] Shai : Have a nice eve
[15:30] Mandar : bye all
[15:31] Kathir : thanks and bye all have a nice eve
[15:32] Anay : bye all