General Chat Transcript
Date and Time: June 25, 2015 09:20:29
[08:52] r m : Good Morning folks!
[08:53] r m : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-25th-june/
[08:53] r m : http://vtrender.com/option-values-dt-240615/
[08:53] Porus : Good morning RM and all
[08:54] r m : Hi Porus
[08:54] r m : Nifty JUN Future levels | Key Reference Area 8365 | Hypo1 above 8365➜8399➜8443 SL 8332 | Hypo2 below 8328➜8301➜8268 SL 8369
[08:54] r m : Banknifty JUN Future levels | KRA 18376 | Hypo1 above 18376➜18446➜18620 SL 18301 | Hypo2 below 18242➜18151➜18095 SL 18376
[08:55] Shai : GM all
[08:57] Vikkas C : GM all
[08:58] Sankar : GM All 🙂
[08:59] Shailesh : gm all
[08:59] Vikkas C : one question.. poor high/low any time period for it to be revisted or can revisit anytime ?
[09:00] Srini A : GM All
[09:01] Venkatesan : gm shai, rm, kris, and friends
[09:01] Venkatesan : shai/rm please upload the OF chart and notes of sterday
[09:01] Hemant : GM folks
[09:02] Dilip : GM everybody..
[09:02] Tejpreet : GM All.
[09:04] r m : Hi Venkatesan
[09:04] John : GM all
[09:04] Venkatesan : hi rm can u pl upload the OF chart
[09:05] Sudhakar : GM Shai,RM,Kris &All friends
[09:05] r m : @Venkatesan, I have rqstd Shai
[09:05] r m : Hi Sudhakar
[09:06] Venkatesan : thank u rm
[09:06] r m : welcome
[09:07] Dharamveer : Gm Friends
[09:09] Shai : http://vtrender.com/premium/orderflow-charts-and-notes-240615/
[09:10] Sumit : GM everyone
[09:11] Moses : GM All
[09:11] Manoj : GM RM
[09:11] Manoj : GM SHAI
[09:11] Manoj : GM ALL
[09:13] r m : Hi Manoj
[09:13] Sharad : GM all
[09:15] Venkatesan : thank you shai
[09:16] Sankar : what is the chart on top row right side.. NF.
[09:16] Sankar : the values are always higher than current price.. like its showing 8370 around at this point..
[09:17] Sankar : while we are trading around 8350 as this point.
[09:17] Ashish : Gm all
[09:17] r m : @Sankar that is July Future
[09:18] Sankar : Oh ok ok.. ;). I thought all are current series only.
[09:18] Sankar : Tx RM 🙂
[09:18] r m : July chart placed so that we can check if big trades are rollovers
[09:18] r m : welcome
[09:19] Shai : yesterday NF finished in a spike but there was decent buying at the lows
[09:20] Shai : kepts KRA at 8365 today which is the anomaly reapir point
[09:20] Shai : abv 8330 anomaly visist possible and abv 8365 go back to 8400
[09:20] Shai : weak below spike lows and acceptance of ysterday spike volume
[09:21] Ashish : Shai, 18195 anamoly repair will be good for today?
[09:21] Tejpreet : Lupin looks like an open drive good volumes , Shai can you give lvls for ID.
[09:21] Shai : yes that can come below 2 day lows
[09:22] Kris : Good Morning all!
[09:22] Kris : Sorry for logging in late.
[09:22] Shai : BNF inside day mostly, so wait for it to come out
[09:22] r m : Hi Kris 🙂
[09:22] Ashish : OK shai, thanks
[09:23] Kris : Hi Rm 🙂
[09:23] Shai : lupin good abv 1820 tgt 1836/ 1846 intra
[09:25] Tejpreet : Thanks Shai.
[09:26] Shai : 50% qty trade : Buy NF 8345 sl of 8325 tgt 8365/ 8382
[09:26] Kris : If someone is still holding those 8400PE – keep trailing them at 50 or so.
[09:27] Varun : kris gm
[09:27] Varun : wht rate did u enter at i 8400 pe
[09:27] Ashish : Kris, 45 stoploss as per your tweet.
[09:27] Kris : @Varun – 36 first lot – 24 second.
[09:27] r m : @Kris, I am holding 8300, foc, any good holding it or quit that?
[09:27] Venkatesan : test
[09:28] Kris : @Ashish – yeah – an intention to buy at 38-41 again if it comes – hence changed it here.
[09:28] Ashish : OK, kris..thanks
[09:28] Kris : @Rm – so far not much chances – specially with green delta also showing up.
[09:29] r m : ok thanks
[09:29] Kris : But I am still hopeful of some fireworks!
[09:29] Shai : decent buying in NG June
[09:29] Shai : NF June
[09:29] Shai : vol not very big
[09:29] Shai : but on expiry day you don’t usually get a lot of participation
[09:29] r m : @Kris, good, let the foc stay then, no money from pocket 🙂
[09:30] Varun : if we do the poor high today 8400 ce could be a multi bagger at 6 rs
[09:30] r m : FII’s showing a long bias since last many days
[09:31] Sankar : @Shai, missed the long. it looks like quick bounce. Shall I keep limit order at 45 or leave it if it comes again there.
[09:31] Ashish : 35500 red…let’s see more will come with him/her. 😉
[09:31] Shai : may come back as vwap is there
[09:31] Sankar : keeping limit order and SL then
[09:32] Shai : Yes Varun that is a lottery
[09:32] Kris : @Varun – you looking at 8420 or so?
[09:32] Shai : gets good abv 8367 cross
[09:32] Varun : ya cos spike failed
[09:32] Varun : and we have a poor high to repair form same point
[09:32] RK : GM Shai,RM and all
[09:32] r m : Hi RK
[09:33] Varun : if we enter val of 66, vah is around 90
[09:34] Shai : I was thinking of buying 8400 at the close yesterday but gave it up cos of expiry morning today
[09:34] Shai : was 6 at close jumped to 11 I think
[09:34] Varun : it was 6.85 few mins back
[09:34] Kris : @Shai – yes you were suggesting it.
[09:34] Varun : at 50 nifty
[09:34] Kris : Morning down move did not help PE at all!
[09:34] Shai : gone with fut
[09:35] Augustin : @Shai – Entering previous Value Area will make it bullish for today?
[09:35] Shai : yes
[09:36] Kris : looking at Option writing – 8350 expiry is one possibility 🙂
[09:36] Augustin : Thanks. Have written 8350PE. Can hold till EOD if it crosses 8365?
[09:36] Shai : (09:20) Shai :abv 8330 anomaly visist possible and abv 8365 go back to 8400
[09:36] Shai : (09:20) Shai :weak below spike lows and acceptance of ysterday spike volume
[09:36] Shai : yes let it cross
[09:36] Augustin : Tks
[09:36] Shai : but don’t wait on such trades till last hour
[09:36] Shai : anything possible
[09:37] Shai : It’s ATM and extremely risky
[09:37] Shai : 8/10 times the closing hour of expiry will produce a 50 point spike
[09:38] Shai : it happens on stocks vwap trades
[09:39] Shai : we spoke about it Mon here . Arbitrage desks are playing expiry week with cash stocks and futures hedged
[09:39] Shai : they exit last hour
[09:40] Augustin : Sure Shai
[09:43] Kris : Kept a buy of 8400PE at 36.
[09:43] Shai : If missed NF longs keept trigger abv 8369 with sl of 8347 for 8382/ 8400
[09:44] Shai : has to cross abv for NF longs to be safe on day
[09:44] Ashish : 36 a good number:)
[09:45] Kris : @Ashish – 36-42 is generally when I buy – and I play for what I call 40-80 rule in options.
[09:46] Kris : My observation is when an option price jumps from that zone – many times it goes to the other end – I book around 75 or so.
[09:46] Kris : Yesterday 8400PE is an example – it reached 78-79 and came back!
[09:46] Ashish : Ok kris… good strategy…
[09:46] Ashish : yes, that was pretty fast..
[09:47] Tejpreet : Kris looks interersting strategy ….thanks for sharing.
[09:47] Sreedhar : Good morning Everybody..
[09:47] Sankar : nice rule 40-80 :).
[09:47] Ashish : but how do you select a particular option for buying… i believe its according to resistance and support of nifty ??
[09:47] Kris : @Rm – looks sub 8300 is ruled out!
[09:48] r m : Thanks Kris
[09:48] Kris : A small hope for exact 8300 – let us see.
[09:48] r m : ok
[09:50] Venkatesan : (09:43) Kris :Kept a buy of 8400PE at 36., june series kris?
[09:50] Kris : Yes Venkatesan!
[09:50] Venkatesan : thakn you and stersay your call on 8400 pe was awesome
[09:52] Kris : Thanks – I am a Shai disciple. All credit goes to him!
[09:52] Hemant : On that note Kris, what is your take on 8400 CE?
[09:53] Ashish : I wonder when I will be able to say like this Kris. Never 🙁
[09:53] Soumya null : shai are yoh from mumbai?
[09:55] Kris : @Ashish – you can – I am a hopeless candidate with trading – RM and Shai changed my perspective to trading quite significantly!
[09:56] Ashish : Hope I can get better with time..
[09:56] r m : Thanks Kris, wish I knew how to do it to myself too 🙂
[09:56] Ashish : lol RM 🙂
[09:57] Kris : @Hemant – 8400CE writers have written some times back – generally more professional writers – so expecting them to hold.
[09:57] Kris : So, we may cross 8400 once – but not by too much – at max like 8420 or so.
[09:57] Augustin : @Kris – If they are forced to cover, upmove could be huge?
[09:57] Hemant : Great, many thanks ty
[09:57] Sankar : Nice to here that. Hope to learn more 🙂
[09:58] Kris : So, the return on 8400CE will not be big.
[09:58] Kris : If one is bullish – may be 8350CE might be the way!
[09:58] Hemant : So if that plays out the CE bought at 5 can end up being at 12 or more?
[09:59] Hemant : Of course Kris. I’m just stuck in the middle with a decent quantity, position size went out of the window at closing yesterday
[10:00] Sankar : @Kris, during initial days of the month, options priced around 40 will be far OTM right, u still pick that way.. or this 40-80 is around expiry alone?
[10:00] Kris : @hemant – Shai suggested 8369 and above na – may be you should try then.
[10:00] Hemant : Got it 🙂
[10:00] Vivek K : amtek auto has slowly inched back to 148-50 and teh company that was supposed to have defualted has made new highs again
[10:01] Kris : Today most of the day – it would be around IB and last hour it will decide to test 8300PE or 8400CE writers!
[10:01] RK : since evening till gone to deep sleep, two things were rolling on mind..one was Shai’s shout at 8416 “quit longs” and the another one is action packed thiller move of that 8400 PE move from Kris..both were amazing..actually these kind of things instills such a positive energy to you 🙂
[10:01] Venkatesan : :)) kris
[10:02] r m : @RK, yep! these guys are amazing!
[10:02] Kris : @Sankar – there will be other cosniderations as well to get in – but – I play the moves through out – not just near expiry!
[10:02] r m : now Lupin on Shai’s dictated path 🙂
[10:02] Sankar : Ok. Tx.
[10:02] Tejpreet : Yep the 8400 rollercoaster wasreal fun …fast n furious.
[10:02] Kris : @RK – thanks – that was an honor!
[10:03] r m : @RK, Kris is Gregory Peck of stock markets 🙂
[10:04] Kris : Crossed 10 – any IB extension now or IB break in next 45 minutes – I will be more inclined for 8300-8350 expiry!
[10:04] Hemant : Well said RM
[10:05] r m : @Kris, NF is looking suspiciously at Shai’s KRA – to cross or not to cross 🙂
[10:05] Sankar : lol.
[10:05] Venkatesan : (10:01) RK :since evening till gone to deep sleep, two things were rolling on mind..one was Shai’s shout at 8416 “quit longs” and the another one is action packed thiller move of that 8400 PE move from Kris..both were amazing..actually these kind of things instills such a positive energy to you 🙂 a big s rk
[10:06] Kris : If it crosses in next 45 minutes – it will hit my buy – and then – I expect the other end at 78 to touch! 🙂
[10:06] r m : ok )
[10:06] r m : 🙂
[10:07] Kris : If it does not – in next 45 minutes – I will cancel my buy order! 🙂
[10:08] r m : 🙂
[10:08] Ashish : OK kris.
[10:09] Kris : 16L PE and 11L CE!
[10:09] Kris : So more bullish?
[10:09] Venkatesan : hit buy of what kris?
[10:09] Kris : Friends – question – every line I type – do you get these audio beeps?
[10:09] Varun : ya
[10:10] Dharamveer : yes we get alert
[10:10] Varun : ure important 😉
[10:10] Ashish : yes kris
[10:10] Venkatesan : ce?
[10:10] Manoj : yes
[10:10] Porus : yes
[10:10] Moses : yes
[10:10] Kris : It must be quite irritating – how can I remove?
[10:10] Manoj : no its nt 4 us
[10:10] Venkatesan : yes kris
[10:10] Vivek K : there is a mute button
[10:10] Sreedhar : NO no its an alert .. not irritating..
[10:10] Ashish : NO, let it be here.. please kris
[10:10] Venkatesan : :)))varun
[10:10] Dharamveer : individually we can mute if we dont want
[10:10] Dharamveer : but its to observe the admins message
[10:11] r m : @Kris, I have managed to irritate these guys so much that your beeps are like music to them 🙂
[10:11] Kris : I chat too much – unlike Shai – who talks in much measured and useful way
[10:11] Sreedhar : That would be more useful to newbies like us.. Kris
[10:11] Augustin : @Kris – You from Chennai?
[10:11] Venkatesan : (10:06) Kris :If it crosses in next 45 minutes – it will hit my buy – and then – I expect the other end at 78 to touch! 🙂 buy of ce or pe kris?
[10:12] Venkatesan : beep is mandatory becuaes we are doing 2 job at a time in office
[10:12] Ashish : venkat PE..
[10:12] Ashish : 8400 PE
[10:12] Kris : @Augustin – no Vizianagaram, Andhrapradesh!
[10:12] Venkatesan : thank you ahish
[10:13] Kris : @Venkatesan – I kept a buy at 36 for 8400PE.
[10:13] Venkatesan : thank you krisssssssssssssssss
[10:14] Kris : @Shai – that 5177x buy – can we say short covering?
[10:15] Kris : hmm.. it changed – any way – leave it.
[10:16] Venkatesan : its dynamic na kris?
[10:16] Kris : yes Venkatesan.
[10:16] Augustin : Ok @Kris
[10:17] Kris : Moved order and bought half qty at 40.5
[10:17] Kris : Rest half will buy at 36. SL will decide after 10.45
[10:17] Kris : Varun knows the reason! :):)
[10:17] Manoj : @shaibuy on ????
[10:18] Sreedhar : Why Varun?
[10:18] Manoj : 8369 hit
[10:18] Varun : he says ib r/e till 10.45 fails and wins after 10.45
[10:19] Varun : he also says wht happenes onfroday of clearing repeats on monday
[10:19] Varun : and it did we rallied b0th days
[10:19] Varun : he also says if u se a vwap band at ib, play failed auction
[10:20] Varun : today he’s told somethign new 40-80 rule
[10:20] Varun : i used to only do the 80 % rule 😉
[10:21] Sreedhar : ha ha 80% ke bahar bi duniya hai Varun bhai..
[10:21] Kris : @Varun – some tukka rules for lesser mortals like us – who do not understand MarketProfile well 🙂
[10:21] Varun : hahahaha
[10:21] Varun : its all experience tht counts
[10:22] Varun : the more older one gets in market, more such trades are found repeating and brought into system
[10:23] Sankar : @Manoj yes, now 8347 wud be SL for this longs as per Shai’s prev msg.
[10:23] Sreedhar : Varun can explain that spike rules once again here please..
[10:23] Kris : @Rm – was that a dig at me of being older? 🙂
[10:23] Varun : 😉
[10:23] Varun : older in market, tht the problem with traders acting beofre confirmation
[10:23] Varun : 🙂
[10:23] Kathir : GM Shai RM all friends
[10:24] r m : Hi Kathir 🙂
[10:24] Varun : rm can we get a screen shot at yesterdays 8420 type highs from where it fell of 5 min and 15 min
[10:24] Kris : hmm… that big red delta – I have nothing to do with it – I just acted before confirmation! 🙂
[10:25] Ashish : 🙂
[10:25] Varun : the of doesnt shai posted doesnt open up fully
[10:25] Venkatesan : hi kathir
[10:25] r m : @Kris, if dig is on you being older, imagine what a deep pit will be dug for me 🙂
[10:26] Manoj : hi kathir
[10:26] Kris : Cmon Rm – you are young at heart! 🙂
[10:26] Kris : No – that is not a dig at being older 🙂
[10:26] Varun : when nothing left, say ure young at heart to keep other person happy
[10:27] Manoj : Yaar Dil toh Bachha Hai Ji!!!!!
[10:27] Venkatesan : (10:06) Kris :If it crosses in next 45 minutes – it will hit my buy – and then – I expect the other end at 78 to touch! 🙂 :)))))))
[10:28] r m : @Varun, desi screenshot is here 🙂
[10:28] Venkatesan : 0:25 r m: @Kris, if dig is on you being older, imagine what a deep pit will be dug for me ::))))
[10:28] r m : http://screencast.com/t/YPe244vdDo37
[10:30] Kathir : Hi Kris Manoj
[10:30] Varun : used to shai’s of. thanks rm for the efforts
[10:31] Kris : Hi Kathir
[10:31] Kris : Another attempt to cross IBH – not a good sign for bears!
[10:32] Kris : Solace being – both attempts have red delta!
[10:33] Ashish : soeone is selling @ 8369..
[10:35] Varun : tht someone is just abv u
[10:35] Ashish : hahaha
[10:36] Kris : @Rm – chat history is preserved?
[10:36] r m : yes Kris, posted in premium section
[10:37] r m : link in announcements for yesterday
[10:37] Manoj : Shai sir pls confirm the buy
[10:37] Shai : Yes Manoj we are in Buy
[10:37] Shai : sl keep as metioned
[10:37] Manoj : ok thanks
[10:38] Shai : @Soumya I’m in Pune previously Mumbai :). so consider both to be my homes depends on who is in the conversation 🙂
[10:38] r m : 🙂
[10:39] RK : Pune or Mumbai, we southies call everybody beyond AP and Karnataka as Northies only 🙂
[10:39] Kris : @Rk – fantastic! 🙂
[10:39] Tejpreet : 🙂 RK.
[10:39] Sudhakar : @RK -Yes
[10:40] Srini A : Yes RK 🙂
[10:40] Venkatesan : :::)))))) rk
[10:40] Varun : buyer trapped abv ibh
[10:40] Shai : 🙂
[10:40] Varun : one lakh
[10:40] Shai : Yes buyer did not move it up
[10:40] Varun : but thn clearing
[10:41] Shai : can exit the NF longs
[10:41] Shai : one trip to test vwap will come
[10:42] Augustin : @Shai – Will be considered rejection of yesterday’s value area?
[10:42] Tejpreet : Shai views on TAMO for id short quick scalp trade.
[10:43] Varun : augustin we did enter yesterday va
[10:43] Varun : we didnt *
[10:43] Augustin : 8365 wasnt?
[10:44] Varun : we were trying to enter tuesdays va first
[10:44] Augustin : Ok
[10:44] Varun : pva is pval -pvah
[10:44] Srini A : Yesterdays VAL is 8384
[10:45] Augustin : OK. Tks
[10:46] Shai : Augustin value areas on top left of 5 min chart
[10:46] Shai : also on the blog
[10:46] Augustin : Tks Shai.. Had missed that
[10:46] Augustin : Noted
[10:47] Shai : ttm 435 stop tgt 426/ 423
[10:47] Sudhakar : @kris shall we keep that 8400 pe buy @36
[10:47] Varun : now off till 2, till high
[10:47] Tejpreet : Thanks Shai.
[10:48] Shai : using 8365 as KRA – not seeing a lot of conviction to stay abv it yet
[10:48] Varun : +filter doesnt go, upmove looks umlikely
[10:48] Shai : but abv spike lows also
[10:48] Shai : so auction locked here
[10:48] Varun : this one lakh buyer will find tough to exit
[10:49] Shailesh : NF is trading in premium after spo many days
[10:49] Shailesh : So*
[10:50] Shailesh : any reason for that @Shai or Kris??
[10:53] Sankar : when you say auction locked here, we are expecting it to range between the spike portion of yesterday’s MP?
[10:53] Augustin : @Shai – It will be a buy again when pink turns green?
[10:53] Shai : Shailesh ignore on expiry day
[10:53] Sankar : or the current VAL/VAH formed today..
[10:53] Shai : does not make sense to track premium today
[10:53] Varun : now time for seller to get fixed
[10:53] Shailesh : ok Shai thanks
[10:53] Varun : seller at bottom with green delta
[10:53] Shai : yes 8330- 8365 Sankar. One has to give way since IB als done
[10:54] Sankar : Tx Shai.
[10:54] Shai : see BNF also in a 40 pointer
[10:54] Shai : typical expiry mood
[10:55] Varun : shai if someone could do a back test, every time a price rajects from ib high/low. vwap visits 9.5/10 times
[10:55] Shai : (10:55) Shai :We will be flattish now till late afternoon on trades.
[10:55] Varun : rejects
[10:55] Shai : Yes
[10:56] Kris : @Varun – part booked those 40 wala at vwap at 48.
[10:56] Varun : cool. new learn for me for future
[10:56] Varun : 40-80 rule
[10:56] Shai : Great Kris
[10:57] Shai : that’s a 20% return
[10:57] Sankar : Nice Trade 🙂
[10:57] Varun : this is looking good for bulls, if we do day r/e
[10:57] Varun : high r/e
[10:57] Sankar : booked because of vwap or the 45 minutes is over?
[10:58] Shai : For most here , you will look between 40- 48 and say what the hell only 8 points, but I have seen Kris’s sheets and it will be up 60- 80K at the close based on exacty these kind of trades
[10:58] Kris : @Sankar – I have this habit of part booking at all important points – so that trade does not hurt. even if it is wrong.
[10:58] Sankar : Big guys B-)
[10:58] Varun : kris volumes are out
[10:58] Varun : 😉
[10:58] r m : yeah, green shoots look like green shots on Kris’s sheets 🙂
[10:58] Kris : it is vwap – and – no conviction on either side – so part booked.
[10:59] Shai : watch BNF
[10:59] Sankar : So Shai, what happens when he books from 40 to 80 like yesterday 😉
[10:59] Sankar : just kidding.
[10:59] Sankar : Cool Kris..
[10:59] Shai : 18360 trigger for 18410 again
[10:59] Kathir : @sankar then party 🙂
[10:59] Sankar : lol.
[10:59] Sudhakar : @kris 36 order should kept it?
[10:59] Srini A : Yes Shai, itheld 18280-90 region quite well
[10:59] Shai : can do 18360 here sl of vwap-10
[10:59] r m : Hyderabad chalo 🙂
[11:00] Kris : @Sudhakar – better to remove now – atleast as per my IB rules.
[11:00] Sudhakar : ok
[11:00] Kris : We will see again – at that moment – after watching delta.
[11:01] Sudhakar : @kris any punts vunte cheppandi
[11:02] Kris : @Sudhakar – sure. whatever I trade – I put it here instantly.
[11:02] Venkatesan : kris pl repost the ib rule?
[11:02] Sudhakar : @kris ok
[11:02] Kris : I am finding it more difficult to trade on twitter more than the real account trading!
[11:02] r m : lol
[11:03] Kathir : 🙂
[11:03] r m : you can put your PC screen live on Omnovia 😀
[11:03] Sankar : hehehe ;). too many places will be tough actually.
[11:04] Sankar : u guys shud have the room 2 created by mistake for pasting only trades and chit chat here
[11:04] Sankar : 😉
[11:04] Ashish : hahaha RM..Kris PC will be trending on twitter then #krispc.
[11:04] r m : lol
[11:06] Ashish : high volume level is constant since last 15 minutes @ 8362
[11:07] Ashish : and sellers are more @ this level.
[11:07] Augustin : Who’s going to blink first 🙂
[11:07] Kris : Some one wants me to admit that yesterday the trade was a loss!
[11:08] Kris : I did – hope he is happy now.
[11:08] Sankar : but that trade went good right?
[11:08] Kris : It seems he spoke with some of us here also – and even they got hit with a loss.
[11:09] Ashish : @dotcomtrade
[11:09] Ashish : here, who ??
[11:09] Kris : no idea Ashish – and it does not matter.
[11:10] Kris : just referenced it to show that trading on twitter is diffcult! 🙂
[11:10] Ashish : yeah, lots of people are doing it now a days…
[11:10] Manoj : shai i sold Tata Motors intra @ 431.5 any view ??
[11:10] Venkatesan : sterday I got 250% jump in 8400pe advocated by u kris
[11:11] Ashish : even Jai is quiet now after his short trade went in loss
[11:11] Ashish : @manoj, shai gave stoploss in Tat motor @ 435 for today and targets = 426/423
[11:12] r m : @Manoj, Tatamotors view updated in stocklevels sheet
[11:12] Sreedhar : By trolling twitter ppl only loose an oppurtunity to learn and teachers..
[11:12] Manoj : thanks
[11:14] Kris : Hmm… looks like 8350 is also secured so far
[11:14] Vikkas C : shai views on HCLTECH ?
[11:14] Kris : So – 8400CE at 6 may not be such a bad lottery!
[11:15] Manoj : TTM 4m Day low to Day highin no time 🙁
[11:18] Manoj : ouch SL hit
[11:19] Shai : expiry day these moves will happen on stocks
[11:19] Shai : try not to do a lot of stock trades
[11:19] Suyash : @shai – positional view for techm?
[11:19] Venkatesan : kris ib rule repeat please
[11:19] Manoj : yep i tried to compensate nf but koi nahi
[11:19] Tejpreet : Better to do options rather than futures and be quick in exit.
[11:19] Suyash : it consolidated for days between 540-560 and is not breaking down. But it’s also got a nice buying tail on the weekly chart
[11:20] Shai : yes breaking down today and weak
[11:20] Shai : I see that 519 tail on the chart and next big supp – thse buyers
[11:21] Shai : intra day may get supp at 530
[11:22] Suyash : okay. thanks shai
[11:22] Shai : can buy near day close and wait to see if 519 holds ( sl)
[11:22] Suyash : yes.
[11:26] Vikkas C : shai ….HCLTECH views pls ?
[11:26] Vikkas C : *view
[11:27] Sankar : @RM, we can take trades based on this stock sheet?
[11:28] r m : @Sankar, they are Shai’s views on stocks given this week, just check if those prices already passed once
[11:29] r m : *levels already passed once after the view was given
[11:29] Sankar : understood.
[11:29] Sankar : Tx.
[11:29] r m : welcome
[11:29] Shai : BNF shoing buying interest
[11:29] Shai : if we get an upmove will be the first to move
[11:30] RK : Whoever trades stocks, my suggestion would be select no of stocks based on your risk and time to manage, and trade those stocks regularly with Shai’s levels..so that you get used to the support and resistance or tight range bands and place entry/exits accordingly..for stocks, mental stops work if you trade them in swing
[11:30] RK : *for swing
[11:31] Shai : hclech also open drive down
[11:31] Shai : has met one day objective at 918
[11:31] Shai : can do 913.9 also
[11:31] RK : HCL didnt participate in last hour sell off yday but drive open today
[11:31] Shai : sl abv 926 though
[11:32] Vikkas C : ok thanx ..
[11:32] Sankar : Ok. As of now too manythings for me to observe. I am currently taking Shai’s NF/BNF trades. and still trying to observe this OF/MP stuffs.
[11:32] Sankar : Hope to learn/grow soon 🙂
[11:32] Vikkas C : shai so can i buy 18400ce of BNF
[11:32] Sankar : Tx all you guys for sharing these info/knowledge.
[11:33] Shai : ok Vikkas though 18300 will collect most of the reward
[11:34] Vikkas C : ok..thanx shai
[11:34] Tejpreet : @RK for stocks positional play shouldn”t we wait for the price confirmation on some particular time frame rather than pulling the trigger as soon as the price is hit .
[11:43] RK : Tejpreet whips are part of life in swing..conservative wait for confirmation on 15min close or 30 min close..but I mostly go with small buffer and enters instantly once the price gets cleared
[11:44] RK : some stocks like DRREDDY,HERO,MARUTI used to run for life in 30 mins time..so cant wait there 🙂
[11:44] Sreedhar : So much of green Delta and price not moving up any reasons BNF
[11:46] Tejpreet : @RK thanks for the input ….the most imp thing I have picked up since joining this room is to have your own watchlist and trade only those stocks so that you know exactly where the turning points are , specifically positional play.
[11:50] Sankar : The stock views are based on spot/cash or future prices?
[11:51] Ashish : spot
[11:52] RK : there are plenty of stocks which spike day after day and we cannot trade everything..it requires hell of energy to sit on such adrenaline every day..so better to keep own list across sectors and trade them..and when we get euphoria, we can extend stocks in the same sector which performs well..
[11:53] Sankar : Thanks Ashish.
[11:55] Ashish : welcome shankar
[11:57] Augustin : @Shai – Nifty is a buy now?
[11:58] Suyash : @shai – banknifty is seeing mostly big green deltas. but price is not reacting. What could be the reasons for this?
[11:59] Nandesh : n
[12:00] Sudhir : has nifty buy triggered
[12:01] Sudhir : 69+
[12:01] Sudhir : 71 top
[12:03] Sankar : @Sudhir, NF longs triggered and closed also..
[12:04] Sankar : as its not sustaining above KRA.
[12:06] Srini A : @Shai, BNF did 18360 as you mentioned
[12:12] Suyash : banknifty moving above the KRA now
[12:12] VR : NF 5 pts discount
[12:14] Shai : those green are still there
[12:14] Shai : and will help BNf to 18410
[12:15] Shai : can push NF up also to 8382
[12:15] Shai : yes those greens played out : (12:06) Srini A:@Shai, BNF did 18360 as you mentioned
[12:21] Shai : sellers in BNF
[12:21] Shai : longs have to cash out BNF
[12:22] Shai : Sudhir we closed tat long early when that fllow through did not come abv 8369- (12:00) Sudhir :has nifty buy triggered
[12:23] Suyash : shai can 80% rule play out in BNF?
[12:23] Shai : expiry day – hence little more circumspect today
[12:23] Shai : Suyash current new buyers missing abv VAL
[12:24] Suyash : yes
[12:32] Vikkas C : bad bad crack in china
[12:33] Ashish : europe also in red..
[12:35] Vikkas C : hopefully greece matter will be sorted out today for the time being ..enuff of this nonsense ..keeping the mkts in a soup
[12:39] Shai : be back ina few mins
[12:39] r m : daytraders will create another greece, what will they do if eveything is calm and quiet 🙂
[12:39] Vikkas C : hahaha RM
[12:40] Venkatesan : rm what is the menu for lunch 2day
[12:40] Venkatesan : mine is karela curry, rice, bolied egg and dahi
[12:41] Ashish : Karela curry, never heard of this..
[12:41] Venkatesan : bitter guard?
[12:42] Ashish : yes, bitter guard in the sahpe of curry…. never heard…
[12:42] Venkatesan : not state karela
[12:42] Ashish : shape*
[12:42] Ashish : i am sitting on top of india 😉
[12:42] Venkatesan : yes its coomon in my home manu
[12:42] Venkatesan : menu
[12:42] Ashish : ok… kerala special..
[12:43] r m : @Venkatesan, some green veg with potato, we call it ‘Parval’ here, doubt if it is grown in south, plus chapati 🙂
[12:43] Venkatesan : tn special
[12:43] Ashish : ok venkat…enjoy your meal mate
[12:43] Venkatesan : i spent 9 yrs in faridaba
[12:43] Venkatesan : faridabad
[12:43] Venkatesan : i had such veg
[12:44] Venkatesan : thank u ahish
[12:44] Ashish : cheers
[12:44] Venkatesan : :))
[12:44] r m : ok Venkatesan, hope you ate lot of Dhaba daal in north, what they call daal fry 🙂
[12:45] Ashish : and dal makhni also
[12:45] Ashish : daal*
[12:45] r m : yeah!
[12:45] Venkatesan : yes daal fry is very good with oil free chapatti
[12:46] r m : yep, all the oil is in daal 🙂
[12:46] Venkatesan : hahaha
[12:47] Venkatesan : rm u must be getting fresh veg from ur backyard
[12:47] r m : I don’t have a backyard man, only frontyard with some grass which has gone yellow due to lack of water 🙂
[12:47] Ashish : hahaha
[12:48] Vivek K : rm u should try gadkari technique to keep it green
[12:48] Manoj : boiled moong with a bit of onion & a pinch of chaat masala & after A Glass of bittergourd juice
[12:48] r m : though it looks like monsoons are here, a bit early, raining since morning 🙂
[12:48] Venkatesan : :))
[12:49] r m : @Vivek, haha, but whom will I send those leafy veg, I don’t have SG as neighbor 🙂
[12:49] Ashish : lol
[12:49] Sreedhar : lol..RM
[12:50] Venkatesan : mano after bg juice or votka?
[12:50] Sreedhar : Treated a la Gadkari..
[12:50] r m : 🙂
[12:50] Manoj : mano me???
[12:50] r m : yes, J silent 🙂
[12:50] Venkatesan : s manoj
[12:51] Manoj : no i dont drink cozz its impossible to handle me Drunk
[12:51] r m : 🙂
[12:52] Venkatesan : :: )) @manoj
[12:52] Vikkas C : @RM todays profile is a ledge ..
[12:52] Vikkas C : till now
[12:52] Manoj : my frnds says we cannot kill u cozz u r our frnd but we will sucide if u drink & call 4 help 🙂
[12:53] RK : Manoj that was the best self appraisal I have heard in recent times :)))
[12:53] Venkatesan : cos committing suicide less painful?
[12:53] Venkatesan : than helping u
[12:54] Manoj : 🙂
[12:55] r m : @Vikkas, yes looks like that here, my charts missed quite a lot of data it seems 🙁
[12:55] r m : http://screencast.com/t/dweUufSgn
[12:55] Vikkas C : thanx RM
[12:56] r m : welcome
[12:56] Vikkas C : so basically POA shud be brk on either side and enter
[12:56] Venkatesan : :))rk
[12:56] Vikkas C : haha..trade done
[12:57] r m : One of my friend from Andhra was quite the opposite, he used to drink everything available and still remained sober, we begged him to drop drinking since it was sheer wastage of good alcohol 🙂
[12:57] Ashish : sellers in NF
[12:57] Manoj : nifty went up
[12:58] Sreedhar : ha ha ha RM
[12:58] Venkatesan : :))rm probabaly you didnt get your share?
[12:58] Hemant : Kris, 8400 PE aat 35 buy executed
[12:59] Sreedhar : should we wait Kris?
[13:01] Suyash : can be charts be refreshed? I am seeing delayed prices
[13:02] r m : for that you need to refresh your screen, charts are ok
[13:03] Ashish : July, 8400 has some sellers..
[13:03] r m : @Venkatesan, I used to pass out long before the amber liquid was finished 🙂
[13:04] Venkatesan : :)) @ rm
[13:04] r m : but it leaves a very bad taste in mouth seeing someone perfectly normal after downing one full bottle 🙂
[13:04] Ashish : Bajaj scooty is flying now
[13:05] r m : BNF did the mandatory 80%
[13:05] Suyash : yes rm, just did that. Working fine now
[13:06] r m : no, I got confused, BNF touched POC only
[13:06] Varun : one 80 % done
[13:06] Srini A : 83384 – yesterday’s VAL is the key I guess
[13:06] Srini A : 8384
[13:06] Tejpreet : Bajaj lot os shorts were there in system and now it goes boom 🙂
[13:06] Venkatesan : rm I shorted NF and my stop is 8287 high made 8289 but my order not executed how?
[13:06] Hemant : Kris around here somewhere?
[13:06] Varun : second one starts abv 84 to 8416
[13:06] Ashish : expiry playing in bajaj
[13:07] Venkatesan : second spike varun?
[13:07] r m : @Venkatesan, mysterious are the ways of nse 🙂
[13:07] Varun : no need for a spike, we could just rotate and reach thr
[13:08] Venkatesan : than k u rm and varun
[13:08] Varun : we had unfinished auction at 8420 yesterday, so felt we mite rorate till there
[13:08] Varun : going as per plans since monring
[13:08] Varun : lets see
[13:08] Venkatesan : VG prediction
[13:09] Varun : we predict monsoons, trade probabilities 😉
[13:09] r m : @Varun, MP=monsoon prediction too? 🙂
[13:09] Varun : ya 🙂
[13:10] Varun : we r in trend thr
[13:10] Varun : no stopping
[13:10] Varun : soemthing big soming up in nf
[13:10] Srini A : 112325 has got covered
[13:10] Varun : strong sellers unable to push [price down
[13:10] r m : yes, 8399 is Shai’s first target and 2IB
[13:14] Varun : cn we have a refresh of data
[13:14] Varun : need to see these one lakh guys
[13:14] Shai : done
[13:14] Varun : its become quite quick now shai
[13:14] Varun : seconds and done
[13:14] Varun : unlike few days back
[13:15] Shai : yes
[13:15] Shai : NF led the charge up
[13:15] Shai : BNF**
[13:15] Manoj : any nf or bnf trade ??
[13:15] Shai : Buy NF now
[13:15] Varun : longs safe abv 72 now for the day
[13:16] Shai : sl of 8365 on ay tgt 8400/ 8420
[13:16] Shai : add on dips
[13:17] Srini A : So, @Shai, all those consistent greens in 5 min OF candles were base building for this upmove. This is interesting
[13:17] Sandeep : shai tgt for nf
[13:17] Srini A : I mean in BNF
[13:17] Rahul N : @shai any option play for expiry?
[13:18] Shai : 8400 ce
[13:19] Shai : buy can do 8420/ 8440 F
[13:19] Rahul N : tnx
[13:19] Shai : waiting for a dip down to add
[13:19] Vikkas C : 8400ce had bot @ 6
[13:19] Vikkas C : sold half @ 18
[13:19] Shai : 8382 and 8365 are 2 places where this move will get supp
[13:20] Varun : shai does a greenline with red or neutral delta at low a weak rally
[13:20] Shai : Wow Vikkas Nice trade
[13:20] Varun : chk like for last 4 candles
[13:20] Vikkas C : thanx shai ..
[13:20] Varun : does it mean this rally is beng sold into
[13:20] Vikkas C : thanx to the chat room 😉
[13:21] Shai : When green begins it should have strong green delta bars
[13:21] Shai : that is responsive + aggressive traders coming togther
[13:21] Varun : take for ref 1-1.20
[13:21] Augustin : Need to thank Shai, Kris, Varun.. Am seeing an improvement in the way I trade since I joined here. Hope to continue to improve
[13:22] Shai : Great : (13:21) Augustin :Need to thank Shai, Kris, Varun.. Am seeing an improvement in the way I trade since I joined here. Hope to continue to improve
[13:22] Shai : Keep an NF buy order at 8382 sl of 8362 tgt 8415 and 8440
[13:23] Hemant : Shai, no point holding 8400 PE now?
[13:23] Hemant : Curious
[13:24] Shai : keep it as standy
[13:24] Shai : but for tat to become big 8365 has to break
[13:24] Shai : and then 8300 is the tgt
[13:25] Hemant : Great
[13:25] Shai : exit abv 8401though
[13:26] Shai : finally BNF cleared 18500 anomaly
[13:27] Manoj : bnf any trade ?
[13:28] Sreedhar : positional short bnf? shai
[13:28] Manoj : nf buy nt triggred yet
[13:29] Shai : Sreedhar not recommending positional on this vol- dfer positional to tom open
[13:29] Sreedhar : ok .. Thanks shai..
[13:29] Shai : Manoh get n a bit of NF
[13:29] Shai : Manoj
[13:30] Manoj : means buy hlf here??
[13:30] Shai : yes
[13:30] Manoj : ok
[13:30] Shai : epiry aft move can take off
[13:34] Varun : so kris u got on board finally with me
[13:34] Varun : 😉
[13:34] Varun : saw ur tweet
[13:35] Kris : I told here also that @ 6 it is a good buy.
[13:35] Sandeep : yes you did
[13:35] Varun : was not in room, so read on phone
[13:35] Sandeep : tgt kris
[13:35] r m : yes, i bought too and offloaded 50% at 12 🙂
[13:35] Varun : this 6 rs make u increase the lot size also
[13:35] Varun : so returns multifold
[13:35] Vikkas C : kris my trade was on ur basis on 8400ce
[13:36] Vikkas C : than u sir
[13:36] Vikkas C : *thank
[13:36] Varun : poor high + spike was like smooth
[13:36] Soumya : shai any stock you find interesting with positional view?
[13:36] Varun : with a very smal stop of spike low
[13:40] Varun : 8408 coming
[13:40] Kris : (12:58) Hemant :Kris, 8400 PE aat 35 buy executed
[13:41] Kris : Hemant – I suggested here that order to be cancelled.
[13:41] Varun : sokris u wor with a 50000 postion
[13:41] Varun : any roi to exit or fer points
[13:41] Varun : ref”
[13:41] Hemant : No worries, Kris, got it covered 🙂
[13:42] Hemant : Whats you handle on twitter handle sir?
[13:42] Kris : @cvkmohan
[13:42] Rahul N : any views on bnf 18400 PE
[13:43] Kris : @Varun – generally that is the idea – to get into a position with 50-70K – no fixed notion about any return.
[13:43] Kris : Sometimes it doubles like today – anything above 20% I consider it as fine.
[13:43] Augustin : @Kris – Any new entries for Jul series?
[13:43] Varun : cool
[13:44] Varun : ure saved by drawdowns and volty
[13:44] Hemant : Ty Kris
[13:46] Kris : Kept a buy in 8450PE at 28. Let us see if it triggers!
[13:46] Soumya : june or july?
[13:46] Kris : June.
[13:49] Soumya : okay.. !!
[13:49] Soumya : thank you
[13:50] Kris : Where is the master? Expected a well done from him – for Buying CE 🙁
[13:51] Varun : but master and i gave tht lottery in morning
[13:51] Varun : 😉
[13:51] r m : maybe planning to give a bunch of well dones in the evening 🙂
[13:51] Varun : so its even steven
[13:52] r m : 🙂
[13:54] Kris : @Varun – I did a PE and then timed the CE!
[13:54] Varun : age matters a lot 😉
[13:55] Kris : Moreover, Master always gets it right – Student needs all the pats!
[13:55] r m : lol
[13:56] Augustin : `@Varun – Will today be called a double distribution day/
[13:56] Kris : I know Varun – you meant trading age!! 🙂
[13:56] Varun : looks like one if we dnt break 72
[13:56] Augustin : Ok. Tks
[13:57] Rahul N : @kris i have put a buy order for 8400 ce @10
[13:57] Varun : dd trend day when none expected it come
[13:57] Rahul N : is this fine or should i wait for day low?
[13:57] Varun : retracement uptill 8420 was on, but never thought like a dd day
[13:58] Kris : @Rahul – not sure if it is right to get in now.
[13:58] Kris : I am expecting a spike up – but finally close might still be 8400-8410
[13:58] Rahul N : you think the move is over ?
[13:58] Rahul N : ok ..thanks
[13:59] Shailesh : Kris 8450 pe active
[13:59] Varun : (13:10) Varun :soemthing big soming up in nf , (13:10) Varun :strong sellers unable to push [price down
[14:00] Venkatesan : S nice varun
[14:00] Kris : 8450PE came up to 43.
[14:01] Kris : Another 15 point spike is needed.
[14:01] Varun : so ur looking at repair of poor high and then back’
[14:01] Varun : in last half hour to close around 8400
[14:01] Varun : or lower
[14:01] Varun : @kris
[14:02] Kris : Kept a sell order in 8400CE at 28. Kept a buy order in 8450PE at 28.
[14:02] Kris : Yes Varun.
[14:03] Varun : ok let me do my day trgt of 8420 first
[14:04] Shai : close out half NF at 8407 . keep tsl at 9394 now on rest
[14:04] Shai : 8394*
[14:04] Varun : poc done at 8408
[14:05] Varun : now val is the key 88
[14:05] Varun : whether price wanna stay in value or reject from poc
[14:05] Varun : vah next stop
[14:06] Varun : profile says something special hapnd after 72
[14:06] Varun : one way trend
[14:07] Varun : 84*
[14:09] Shai : yes val is the proper sl but prefer traing this at day before yesterday vah
[14:09] Shai : this is yesterday seller zone’
[14:09] Shai : remeber yesterday aggressive seller at 8416
[14:10] Shai : he sold at mkt
[14:10] Shai : so ligthen up and book profits a bit- don’t let it go away
[14:10] Venkatesan : bnf turn 2 pink shai
[14:11] Shai : there was a query in the morning on 18400 ce here
[14:11] Kris : @Rm – Shai is here – mera number kab aayega? 🙂
[14:11] Shai : waht a reward on that 1 !
[14:11] Shai : Venkatesan 2 day sellers here
[14:11] Vikkas C : that was me shai
[14:12] Shai : Nice Vikkas – wonderful trade
[14:12] r m : @Kris, arrey bhai, trading mein to itni patience, pat lene mein kyon jaldbajee 🙂
[14:12] Vikkas C : thanx shai
[14:13] Vikkas C : but ur 18300ce has done awesome ..65 to 211
[14:14] Shai : BNF was asking to be bought at 2 day lows with all that green
[14:14] Vikkas C : yes sir ..
[14:14] Shai : 18421 supp
[14:14] Shai : below that 18376 again
[14:15] Vikkas C : vwap test
[14:15] Shai : some sellers in NF also
[14:20] Vikkas C : 8400pe good punt .. @kris @shai
[14:21] Shai : nice sideways movement in charts now
[14:21] Shai : looks like first week of july is sideways
[14:21] Sankar : Oh bad 🙁
[14:21] Manoj : really very bad
[14:22] Shai : balance was expected no?
[14:22] Varun : on larger time frame we fell from 8800 to 8000 , so repairing will be slow and sluggish like this only
[14:23] Sankar : 🙂
[14:23] Varun : fall was like many trend days
[14:23] Varun : each trend day full of singles
[14:23] Shai : july F upside upto 8476
[14:23] Shai : 8420 now
[14:25] Shai : support in july should be 8250 spt
[14:25] r m : so first week of July will be like manna from heaven for writers 🙂
[14:25] Shai : imm res at 8485 spot
[14:25] Shai : upside opens to 8750 spot if that is crossed
[14:25] Varun : shai pls post a few monthly and half yearly compisite over the weekend
[14:26] Shai : below 8250 spot in July uptrend is broken and dips to sub 8000
[14:26] Shai : Sure Varun
[14:26] Kris : @Shai – what is the monthly vwap on spot?
[14:26] Varun : last time composite was on volume, if possible pls try for composite tpo
[14:26] Varun : will tell us the kvns to repair in second half
[14:26] Varun : lvns
[14:26] Varun : shai can tell tht
[14:26] Varun : i have no data
[14:26] Shai : 8180 Kris this series
[14:27] Kris : Thanks Shai
[14:28] Shai : 17885 BN spot
[14:28] Shai : request all to jot these 2 numers down for july : 17885 and 8180
[14:28] Shai : spot
[14:29] Venkatesan : thank you shai
[14:29] r m : Thanks Shai
[14:29] Varun : so normally hw do we react at vwap of previous series @shai
[14:29] Shai : People look at the close number of the series
[14:29] Varun : like a reversal with trend ?
[14:29] Shai : we look at vwap
[14:29] Soumya : noted.. thank you shai
[14:29] Shai : this is where the current buying of the mkt is
[14:30] Shai : and below those points next series is down
[14:30] Varun : so if we get a signal via mp to buy after topuching vwap, we start again
[14:30] Shai : As an exmaple last series of May had vwap at 8260 spot
[14:31] Shai : when that was broken on the second there was an immediate collapse
[14:31] Shai : and we recovered that price only on the 22nd now
[14:31] Shai : Yes Varun
[14:32] Shai : It’s using the same vwap as here
[14:32] Varun : hmmm
[14:32] Shai : pday vwap and pmonth vwap
[14:32] Varun : but on ltf, more effective
[14:32] Shai : Time frame is larger
[14:32] Shai : yes
[14:32] Soumya : shai any stock that is looking good for next series?
[14:32] Srini A : @Do you also post composite profiles in the blog?
[14:33] Shai : In MP the same rules apply – change from 30 mins to daily to weekly to monthly to yearly- the concept will always rock
[14:33] Shai : Soumya haven’t checked
[14:33] Sankar : Ok. so it is like till 8180, its better to be on long side of NF something like that? or look at reactions are 8180 for trades?
[14:33] Shai : but saw some buying numbers in MnM
[14:34] Soumya : auro? still good for 1510?
[14:34] Soumya : great !! thanks shai
[14:35] Shai : Volumes are dying in auro
[14:35] Venkatesan : so shai in july spot below 8180 is support for longer timeframe
[14:35] Shai : 1466 is now resisting
[14:35] Shai : 1510 looking a bit difficult now
[14:36] Soumya : ok.. thank you shai.. let july series start then will take a view from you on m&m..
[14:36] Shai : Yes Venkatesan we will be buying dips to vwap there
[14:36] Venkatesan : thank you shai
[14:37] Shai : expiry move about to start
[14:37] Shai : 2.40 to 3.10 is the vwap time for stocks
[14:38] Vikkas C : vwap time for stocks ..meaning ?
[14:38] Soumya : State-run pension and social security fund EPFO to start investing in equity markets in July – labour minister
[14:38] Venkatesan : vikha to calculate cosing p
[14:39] Soumya : More money to flow to equities !!
[14:39] Kris : hmm… it came to 33 this time.
[14:39] Venkatesan : volume during the period only taken
[14:39] Sankar : 8415 done.
[14:39] Sandeep : kris at 28 its still on ?
[14:40] Sandeep : 8400 call and 8450 put
[14:40] Kris : Yes Sandeep – they are connected na – 8400CE sell and 8450PE buy – so lesser risk – and – yes – they are in system.
[14:40] Varun : vah also done, so we did 2 80 % today
[14:41] Ravi Chahal : copying Kris hre 🙂
[14:42] Varun : we did poor high @shai
[14:42] Varun : 😉
[14:42] Ravi Chahal : what should be the trgt exit price
[14:42] Shai : 8433
[14:42] Venkatesan : varun congrates
[14:42] Shai : 8440 exit
[14:43] Ravi Chahal : no for 8450PE?
[14:43] Venkatesan : shai short advicable here? at 8440
[14:43] Ravi Chahal : entered at 28
[14:43] Shai : what was the high on the 8400 ce?
[14:44] Sudhakar : 28.6
[14:44] r m : 28.60
[14:44] Venkatesan : 28.6 shai
[14:44] Shai : thanks
[14:44] Shai : vpoc is there at 8442
[14:44] Kris : That trade is triggered.
[14:45] Sandeep : yes
[14:45] Ravi Chahal : yes
[14:45] Kris : 8400CE complete exit at 28 – from 6
[14:45] Shai : Nice Kris
[14:45] Soumya : awesome trade kris !!
[14:45] Ravi Chahal : and what abt 8450PE?
[14:45] Ashish : brilliant kris
[14:46] Kris : Kept two sell orders – one at 38 other at 46. let us see.
[14:46] Vivek K : kris is playing like kasparov
[14:46] Tejpreet : Kudos Kris !!
[14:46] Ravi Chahal : thanks
[14:47] Venkatesan : kris taarget for 8450pe?
[14:47] r m : 38 and 46
[14:48] Kris : 38 got exited!
[14:48] Ravi Chahal : yes, thanks Kris!
[14:49] Venkatesan : yest kris i exited 39
[14:49] Venkatesan : sq off in one go
[14:49] Venkatesan : thnku rm
[14:49] Srini A : That was one brilliant trade @ Kris
[14:50] Ravi Chahal : 46 done too!
[14:50] Soumya : absolutely !!
[14:50] Venkatesan : yes indeed srini
[14:50] Suyash : good trade @kris !
[14:50] Soumya : crazy stuff from kris.. epic man !!
[14:50] Kris : complete exit!
[14:50] r m : wow!
[14:50] Sankar : good trade for the day 🙂
[14:51] Hemant : Well done! Superb 🙂
[14:51] Kris : thanks all!
[14:51] Hemant : Shai, RM, RK, Varun, Kris!
[14:51] Hemant : Kudos!
[14:52] Kris : @Shai – atleast this one deserves a well done – trade is planned and executed much before!
[14:52] Ravi Chahal : awesome 🙂
[14:52] Ashish : Wow, great kris
[14:52] Vivek K : what do you drink kris ? 🙂
[14:52] Shailesh : Great Kris
[14:52] Sankar : Shai must be counting his money from future exits.. he will come back once he finish counting Kris 🙂
[14:53] Hemant : Any BTST here folks ?
[14:53] Suyash : @kris – i wonder how you manage to trade and also update at the same time both in the room and on twiitter!
[14:53] Sankar : he bought near LOD today.. 😉
[14:53] r m : @Kris, send one more snapshot, I’ll paste over mine and persuade Zerodha to settle as per that 🙂
[14:53] Sankar : only the KRA had some hiccups.
[14:54] Sandeep : great call kris
[14:54] Shai : Nice one Kris
[14:54] Shai : Kris posted a snapshot?
[14:54] Sankar : Yup.. splendid trades today 🙂
[14:54] r m : @Shai, that was long back 🙂
[14:55] Shai : ok
[14:55] RK : Kris that was damn nasty crazy trades..typical kind of pit traders 🙂
[14:55] r m : 🙂
[14:56] Srini A : @Kris, You could fund for Amaravati with these type of trades
[14:56] Kris : thanks every one!
[14:57] Hemant : Shai, this room is full of gems, not leaving it till exchanges in India crash or I die 🙂
[14:57] r m : lol
[14:57] Kris : @Varun – thanks for pointing to that poor high – that made these trades possible.
[14:57] Varun : 🙂
[14:57] Soumya : Awesome varun bhai !!
[14:58] Varun : we all got what we wanted
[14:58] Hemant : Any rollover trades BTST (wide grin)
[14:58] Shai : Yes that poor hgh revisist was the trick
[14:58] Varun : i wanted poor high repaired at 9.15 in morning
[14:58] Dharamveer : @ Hemanth these gems will make us more money in the crashes for us
[14:58] Varun : he played the call and reverse
[14:58] Varun : brilliant
[14:58] r m : @Varun, der aaye duast aaye 🙂
[14:58] Shai : personally did feel that coming at the open expiry games would delay that but over 9365 it wa sclean
[14:58] Shai : 8365*
[14:59] Hemant : Shai, this is time for you to be knighted!
[14:59] Varun : but shai the open even after a negative us market meant
[14:59] Kris : @Varun – we are back at 8400! as I suggested.
[14:59] Varun : we dnt waana continue spike
[14:59] Kris : @Rm – if you can dig that statement – I said 8400CE writers are old writers – they will be tested but will hold!
[14:59] Shai : I don’t watch US market- these vols here tell us all that we need to know for tom
[15:00] Varun : cool
[15:00] r m : yes Kris!
[15:00] Varun : i take tht into ref, helps at open
[15:00] Varun : cos not good with volumes
[15:00] Shai : 10 more mins of move left
[15:01] r m : but that finesse you added for trading the micro drop from 8433 was just too much Kris 🙂
[15:01] Varun : shai we did 33 but not poc, isauction still left for tmrw on upside
[15:01] Varun : poor high again
[15:02] Shai : yes could visisit that poc
[15:02] Shai : besides in a balance so sell high and buy lows now
[15:02] Hemant : I agree with RM. Kris, you did the corner of the eye of the needle in the haystack of in the nifty lil world of traders!
[15:03] Soumya : 8365 buying point?
[15:04] Shai : yes can buy for tom
[15:04] Varun : shai does july also have a poor high
[15:04] Hemant : Bhai log, any BTST stuff?
[15:04] Shai : MP charts now July
[15:04] Varun : ok
[15:05] Shai : poor high cleared
[15:05] r m : 🙂
[15:05] Shai : 8392 F is an anomaly
[15:07] Varun : kris u got an rt from shai
[15:07] Varun : my tweet u got an rt
[15:07] Shai : expiry done
[15:08] Varun : pat ?
[15:08] Kris : Saw that Varun – thanks a lot!
[15:08] Shai : flat line here now
[15:08] Hemant : Shai, 8800 CE can buy for tomorrow here?
[15:09] Varun : so u got ur pat on back finally
[15:09] Kris : Yes Varun – it helps – it helps immensely when it comes from Master!
[15:09] Varun : i got sa few from him last week 🙂
[15:09] Shai : Hemant for tom on spot 8334 is still the supp and tgt reamins 8450 per weekly plan
[15:10] Hemant : Got it Shai
[15:10] Shai : we held that 8330 well since we crossed above it
[15:11] Varun : rm who told u abt clearing range extension trade
[15:11] Varun : kathir ?
[15:11] Varun : clearing day 1
[15:12] Manoj : bye all
[15:12] Varun : so tmrw is rm day, if we do range extension on day -1 of clearing we do a 100 pointer
[15:12] Kris : Was expecting an expiry between 8380-8400 – with a spike to 8430. Played out exactly!
[15:14] Shai : Nice kris
[15:15] Soumya : shai can you please check dish tv once
[15:17] Shai : dish tv good close
[15:17] Shai : can do 112 again
[15:18] Vivek K : shai amtekauto positional levels pls. will it be able to cross 160-65?
[15:19] Shai : Not enough vols to cross 157 now
[15:19] Shai : what happened to that news ? was it fake?
[15:20] Soumya : thank you shai
[15:20] Vivek K : mgmt told the news was pile of rubbish
[15:20] Shai : 🙂
[15:20] Varun : shai i know the owners, i dnt think thy have cash problem
[15:20] Varun : but still dnt know
[15:20] Shai : ok
[15:20] Varun : yes it is rubbish
[15:20] Shai : has recovered that entire move
[15:21] Varun : thy mite be top ten richest guys of delhi
[15:21] Shai : also a classic example Amtek on how to trade a spike
[15:21] Varun : cash rich
[15:21] Shai : oh ok- didn’t know that
[15:21] Varun : thy acwuired barista coffee and some hotels recntly
[15:21] Vivek K : the company which is supposedly defaulting has moved from 170 to 210
[15:22] Varun : so was a bit stunned by the news
[15:22] Varun : lol
[15:22] Vivek K : barista is in rollatainers
[15:22] Varun : but u never know whts inside
[15:23] John : @Shai,Your target for Kotak hit.Thanks! Can i hold for some more upmove or exit here?
[15:23] Shai : John book
[15:24] John : Ok Shai. Thanks a lot:)
[15:24] Vikkas C : shai TECHM positional longs can be initiated here
[15:24] Shai : Dis say early in the morning that it is a min 50 point move between 2.40 and 3.10
[15:25] Shai : stopped at 3.10
[15:25] Venkatesan : shai, big vol here
[15:25] Kris : Allright friends – have a nice evening!
[15:26] Shai : ok for tech M
[15:26] Shai : maintain sl of 518
[15:26] Venkatesan : thank you shai, rm, kris, varun and friends
[15:26] Augustin : Thanks all. Bye
[15:26] Shai : check sheet
[15:26] Sandeep : thanks all
[15:26] Vikkas C : thanx shai
[15:26] r m : Thanks and bye Kris, have a great evening 🙂
[15:26] Shailesh : thanks all bye
[15:26] Shai : Bye Kris- catch up
[15:27] Kris : Parting note – I am still holding my 7900PE Aug!
[15:27] Vikkas C : bye kris and thanx for the wonderful trades
[15:27] Ashish : bye bye all…
[15:27] Kris : I have good hopes on it!
[15:27] Venkatesan : then i will 2morrow kris
[15:27] Vivek K : ciao
[15:27] Moses : Bye all
[15:27] Shai : mnm 1310
[15:28] Shailesh : Shai wht is thsi sign of algo ?
[15:28] Tejpreet : Bye all.
[15:28] Shailesh : Algo was run or wht ?
[15:28] Shai : No rollovers
[15:28] Shailesh : okkk
[15:28] Shai : happens in last 2 mins
[15:28] Shailesh : okk thanks
[15:28] Shai : institutions adjusting
[15:29] Shai : they wait for price to be absolutely flat and punch huge orders
[15:29] Shailesh : ohkkkk
[15:29] Hemant : Buying and selling for next series?
[15:30] Shai : yes
[15:30] Hemant : Pre-emptive 🙂
[15:30] Ravi Chahal : not expecting 9400 by Aug 🙂
[15:30] Shai : Bye all
[15:30] Porus : bye all
[15:30] Venkatesan : so shai all algo appear when price settled?
[15:30] Ravi Chahal : @Kris
[15:30] r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great evening 🙂
[15:30] John : Bye all:)
[15:30] Srini A : Bye everyone
[15:30] Shailesh : bye all
[15:30] Shai : Have a nice evening
[15:30] Vikkas C : bye all ..and thank u shai
[15:30] Hemant : See you folks tomorrow
[15:30] Ravi Chahal : bye
[15:31] Sudhakar : Bye All
[15:31] Kathir : THANKS AND BYE ALL FRIENDS