General Chat Transcript
Date and Time: March 26, 2015 09:22:17
[08:53] Porus : GM all
[08:55] r m : Good Morning folks!
[08:55] r m : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-26th-march/
[08:56] r m : http://vtrender.com/premium/orderflow-charts-and-notes-250315/
[08:56] r m : Nifty MAR Future levels KRA 8552 Hypo1 below 8552➜8510➜8480 SL 8585 Hypo2 above 8586➜8612➜8644 SL 8552
[08:56] r m : Banknifty MAR Future levels KRA 18345 Hypo1 below 18345➜18220➜18135 SL 18430 Hypo2 above 18505➜18620➜18755 SL 18410
[08:57] Shai : GM all
[08:58] Kris : GM All 🙂
[08:59] r m : Hi Kris
[09:00] Kris : hi rm 🙂
[09:00] Kathir : HI Shai RM and Kris ..three lords
[09:00] r m : lol
[09:00] r m : I am PC (permanent chela) 🙂
[09:00] Kathir : @RM I need more support from lord vishnu 🙂
[09:01] r m : @Kathir, will support your cause 🙂
[09:01] r m : SGX Nifty April trading 40 points down
[09:01] Kathir : thanks 🙂
[09:02] Kris : hi Kathir
[09:05] Kathir : @shai if nf opensd around 8480..shall we buy for a bounce back trade
[09:06] Kathir : sgx low 8460
[09:10] Sachith : GM all
[09:10] Sharad : GM all
[09:16] Shai : 8464 supp for the morning
[09:16] Shai : staying abv 8484 will go for gap fill
[09:16] Shai : Kathir Sl 8464
[09:17] Shai : 8522 tgt
[09:17] Kathir : ok thanks
[09:18] Sachith : shai sunpharma short levels
[09:20] Shai : sun pharma nice short below 1054 can tgt 1021
[09:21] Shai : book part near 1034
[09:21] Sachith : ok…thnx
[09:21] Shai : BNF not good til 18235 is crossed
[09:23] Shai : Looks like an OAOR
[09:26] Kris : @Rm – what is live MO?
[09:27] r m : let me check
[09:28] r m : -69
[09:28] Rav : CRICKET fever it seems for Kathir
[09:29] Kris : Thanks RM
[09:29] r m : welcome
[09:30] r m : (*** Private to Kris ) @Kris, is it worth buying April 8700CE?
[09:32] Shai : we opened gap down and will use 8464 instead of 8480 as extension tgt – hence support in NF
[09:33] Shai : 18135 supp in BNF
[09:33] Shai : resistance would be 8510 ad 18235 for morning auction
[09:35] Kathir : @rav yeah 🙂
[09:37] Kathir : @shai below 8464? and 8315
[09:38] Shai : 8406 if we break 8464 F today
[09:38] Shai : yes upto 8348 F possible also
[09:39] Shai : BNF is in a very tricky territory
[09:40] Shai : upto 17822 F possible if 18100 goes
[09:50] Kathir : ok thanks
[09:59] Kathir : @rav very huge volumes in 8500 ce? anything there
[10:01] Sharad : 8500 Ce added 28 lacs writing
[10:06] Amit J : shai buyer both in mar and apr. what does this indicates
[10:07] Janak : aus. cruising along on the way to 300+
[10:10] Shai : Amit could be squaring off shorts but today we have to pay attention to OI at 8500 PE
[10:11] Rav : OI ddition in april is 2 and 4 times more for nf and bnf
[10:11] Shai : they were done at an avg price of 50/- and if 8450 breaks would be in trouble
[10:11] Rav : clsoing position in march looks like selling for us but they are buying in april and ulta
[10:12] Sharad : 8500 call added 30 lacs
[10:15] Rav : they can write only 8500ce since 8600ce is 1 Re and can”t afford to write 8400ce at 74
[10:15] Janak : could be 8375/17700 expiry today
[10:16] Sharad : Janak great numbers
[10:16] Sharad : 8450 call writing started 8 lacs now
[10:18] Shai : Yes pressure is On
[10:19] Shai : One would have imagined begin cash buying as we are at imp supports right off the open
[10:19] Shai : tilt will come in ast hour- can be 100 points from here
[10:19] Shai : last*
[10:19] Janak : if aus scores 300+ – mkts will sell-off 🙂
[10:20] Janak : all the bookies may pull ot money from the mkts
[10:20] Sharad : interesting 17900 put buying 2.5 lacs that is hugeee
[10:20] Janak : before 12 noon – they need to take out 18k
[10:21] Janak : then play for the lower-side 300 pts
[10:21] Sharad : yes janak ..big game is on today
[10:22] Sharad : 18200 call writing 2.5 lacs pcr 0.65
[10:22] Janak : its an easy mkt for bears to make a killing today
[10:23] Sharad : yes looks biggest day for BNF
[10:23] Rav : max pain at 18300 !!!!!
[10:24] Sharad : Ravi but max pain can change according to new writing of calls
[10:26] Rav : Change in OI 18200 ce 253500 17900pe 254875 UP
[10:26] Rav : as of now. will change dynamically
[10:26] Rav : lie dynamaite
[10:27] Sharad : true
[10:31] Rav : stock specific sc will start at different time
[10:36] Shai : 18230 F has a seller today
[10:37] Shai : I think all rise upto 18200- 18230 will be used to short till closing hour
[10:38] Sharad : Shai can we reach 18200 also ? as even not trying to touch vwap today 18160
[10:45] Sharad : people are buying even 17800 put @ 2.5 rs only.. added 1.25 lacs huge
[10:45] Sharad : 8500 call 34 lacs
[10:47] Shai : that 18000 put is a lottery
[10:52] RK : Seems India had to chase 375+ 🙂
[10:52] RK : GM all 🙂
[10:53] r m : Hi RK 🙂
[10:55] Kathir : @hi RK
[10:56] Kathir : @RM RK is supporting aus 🙂 seems to be busy with bokkies till now
[10:56] RK : Hi Kathir..
[10:57] RK : Kathir at a time can offer head to one place only..as already given to mkts no bookies business now 🙂
[10:57] Kathir : lol
[10:57] RK : Janak your wish come true..Anushka watching Semi 🙂
[10:58] Kathir : @RK illeana is janaks fav 🙂
[10:59] r m : @Kathir, Janak is a multi-tasker 🙂
[10:59] Kathir : lol
[10:59] RK : 🙂
[11:00] Kathir : what happenned to his yatch dream with illeana 🙂
[11:00] Kathir : yacht
[11:00] r m : who knows he might be trading from his yacht with a satellite phone!
[11:00] Kathir : 🙂
[11:01] RK : LT 50rs off from low
[11:20] Janak : aus has won half-the game
[11:25] Janak : shai apr bn can do 18k by tom?
[11:26] Shai : depends on the close
[11:26] Shai : but weak below 18400 spot all round
[11:26] Janak : that is good 350 pts from here
[11:26] Janak : considering the short rollover- looks good
[11:27] Shai : yes roughly 300 point downside open in BNF
[11:27] RK : Rav LBU in axis?
[11:29] Janak : shai u can put bn apr chart also? pl
[11:30] Shai : BNF FP chart on right
[11:30] Janak : instead put this chart
[11:30] Shai : ok- give me 20 mins will add that chart
[11:31] Janak : ok
[11:36] Janak : aus going 12 an over – 14 more overs to go
[11:36] Janak : 350+ is on
[11:44] RK : Ind going 1 in an over..2 wickets in 2 overs 🙂
[11:44] r m : 🙂
[11:49] Sharad : 8500 Ce pcr 0.90 40 lacs added… insane
[11:57] Kathir : 🙂
[11:59] Sharad : ye 18086 ki diwar ku nahi tutti
[12:00] RK : HDFC seems waited for expiry..cracking today affter standing firm in the entire fall
[12:00] r m : @Sharad, short Ambuja phir tootegi 🙂
[12:00] Kathir : another one for aus 5 now
[12:01] Sharad : heheh
[12:04] Shai : Apr F of NF/ BNF on extreme right
[12:06] Kathir : @RAV 8400 pe huge volumes SBU?
[12:10] Janak : last 5 overs only 23 runs
[12:12] Shai : vwap sending bnf back
[12:12] Shai : but no big selling in below IBL
[12:12] Shai : NF weak below 8464 can mve to 8406
[12:15] Janak : looks like a yo-yo till 2.30 now
[12:15] Janak : kill the option values
[12:16] Janak : bn apr chart frozen
[12:20] Shai : ok now
[12:20] Janak : ok
[12:20] Shai : cross of 8464 is 20 points upside to 8484 and possibly 8494 sl of 8451
[12:20] Shai : weak below 8464
[12:21] Janak : 325 looks on
[12:22] Janak : aus
[12:23] Sharad : 8450 call added 20 lacs
[12:24] Janak : those guys might be killed first 🙂 and then a tank
[12:26] Sharad : no chance for any bulls today…slow grinding down till end … should expire near Shai number 8406
[12:27] Sharad : and BNF Shai number 17822
[12:28] Sharad : today both can not cross vwap..seeing all this put writers are stuck by gap down
[12:28] Shai : yes lottery trade is that 18000 pe at 24 now
[12:29] Shai : can do 100 plus
[12:29] Sharad : very good Shai thanks
[12:29] Janak : before that a bounce of 60-80 up shai?
[12:29] Janak : lets say 18170 in bn mar?
[12:31] Shai : early in the morning I did feel that one upmove would come to that morning seller of 18220 but every rise to vwap being sold
[12:31] Janak : so now that pending move may come
[12:31] Sharad : Janak every day bounce can not come…today is special 26
[12:31] Janak : hmm – lets c
[12:32] Janak : 299/7 and 2 overs to go
[12:32] Sharad : 99% traders are waiting for one bounce to unload… that is why BNf did not fall with nifty
[12:32] Sharad : to kkep guessing
[12:33] Sharad : keep
[12:33] Janak : its an option players’day sharad – moves on both sides are bound to be there
[12:33] r m : @Janak, what are you doing to aus man, just look away for a sec and a wicket goes 🙂
[12:34] Sharad : Janak special 26
[12:34] Janak : yeah rm but before they get out – they are hitting a quick 20-30
[12:38] Janak : johnson – 3 balls – 3 fours!
[12:38] r m : Shami ki shamat!
[12:39] Janak : he has been the best bowler so far in WC – but today 10 overs 68
[12:39] Janak : no wicket
[12:39] Janak : that last over went for 18
[12:40] Janak : the first time he has gone wicketless in the tournament.
[12:40] Janak : dushera ke din hi ghoda…..:-)
[12:43] Janak : kohli drops a catch
[12:43] Janak : and a 4 and 6 follows 🙂
[12:43] Janak : India ko NH-10 pe khada kar diya aussi ne 🙂
[12:47] Sharad : Shai 18000 lottery purchased at 22
[12:53] Amit J : shai what is this 0xo
[12:53] Shai : bad ticks
[12:53] Janak : 200 pts sppike till 17900 –
[12:54] Janak : that was a foul trick
[12:56] Shai : reset
[12:56] Sharad : so retest must ?
[12:57] Shai : happens most of the time but nothing seen in April
[13:01] Janak : shai bn apr short tgts pl
[13:03] Shai : 18128/ 17985 APRIL
[13:05] Sharad : Shai sold 18000 put 50% at 39…. so balance 50% are free now… so wait till end
[13:06] Shai : nice
[13:06] Sharad : so wait till end ?
[13:07] Shai : yes
[13:07] Shai : pressure on Pe writers
[13:07] Sharad : fine Thanks… then yearly subscription of Vtrender is free
[13:08] RK : 🙂
[13:08] RK : Shai need to inform us well in advance lottery trade for subscription..that would be nice :))
[13:09] Sharad : RK yaha rahoge to sukhi rahoge
[13:10] RK : Hindi nahi malum..eng pls 🙂
[13:10] Shai : BN is broken technically . Had indentified 18400 medium term supp and weekly dip support at 18210 spot. Both gone
[13:11] Sharad : If your are here you will be always happy
[13:11] RK : Yes watching 18210 s opening the gate..but decided not to rush on expiry day
[13:11] RK : Sharad ofcourse everyday he is announcing lottery..but still when it comes with a tag..thats special :))
[13:12] Sharad : true
[13:14] Sharad : now 18035 future need to go … then balle balle.. recent low after spike
[13:15] Amit J : will you see that level on closing basis or even intraday dip below that has changed our positive view
[13:15] Sharad : Shai IBLow or vwap possible ?
[13:16] Shai : BNF positional view is weak. NF we wait to see what ahppens tom at open
[13:16] Shai : a bounce is due to 8750 then we see what happens there
[13:16] Amit J : ok
[13:22] Shai : sharad vwap +15 sl on all short trades
[13:22] Sharad : ok
[13:22] Shai : has not atken out vwap so far, so abv vwap may jump to near day high
[13:22] Sharad : 18100 call 2.20 lac added… so now crossing 18100 very very remote
[13:23] Sharad : 100% addition today
[13:23] RK : Shai if we close above 8468-0.61 of the rise, then its safe to go less agressive on shorts positions..right?..the last hope!
[13:24] Shai : yes RK
[13:25] Shai : MO s signalling a bounce for us
[13:25] Shai : dead cat or not we will see later
[13:25] Shai : the thing with MO is that expiry complicates it
[13:26] Shai : tom we know for sure
[13:26] RK : Yeah..thats why going neutral today..will decide on positions tmw
[13:26] Shai : I’ll go with aprill 8700 calls OTM at close and add if we see an open drive tom at open
[13:27] Janak : that spike down took the sls of only cover orders shai!
[13:27] Janak : bizarre
[13:27] Shai : if we close at lows even better
[13:28] RK : if am right, last 2 series we had a strong conta move next day after expiry..
[13:28] Shai : yes
[13:29] Janak : now 18050-18000 can be the safest trade on earth at the moment? in bn mar
[13:30] Janak : option guys will definitely teach that no once and hover around
[13:30] Janak : touch
[13:34] Sharad : so janak not s single bounce of 50 rs in bnf today
[13:34] Janak : 18040-18090 was one
[13:34] Janak : just a few min ago
[13:35] Sharad : thats ok man
[13:37] Shai : 18000 pe 47- book half and trail at cost
[13:38] Shai : 18000 psychological number- one bounce and then down again
[13:40] RK : Yes flash of 17*** on the screen is hard to digest as we were just trading sub 20000 and 19000 levels..
[13:42] Janak : shdnt exchange cancel that trade?
[13:42] Shai : we look at 17922 as a fair tgt from here
[13:43] Shai : march
[13:43] Shai : best is we get 17822 by close
[13:43] Janak : that wud mean bn apr may touch 18k tody
[13:44] Shai : 18128 april
[13:48] Janak : 8400pe also lottery shai?
[13:49] Shai : 68 lottery
[13:49] Shai : Janak BNF much weaker
[13:50] Janak : nf has no way than to follow?
[13:51] Janak : another 50 from here wud be a cakewalk?
[13:51] Janak : 8375
[13:51] Shai : see that supp at 8406
[13:51] Janak : because 8400 will be teased
[13:51] Shai : if it breaks then 8400 pe should give you 50 tgt
[13:51] Shai : else it will be worthless
[13:52] Shai : 8406 F supp
[14:01] Shai : 17978
[14:02] Shai : 8404
[14:02] Shai : that 8400 pe is a buy lottery till close
[14:02] Shai : if 8400 breaks tgt is 8348F
[14:02] Janak : phew!
[14:02] Shai : buy ony if 8400 breaks F
[14:02] RK : oops 🙂
[14:04] Shai : very expensive at 18
[14:04] Shai : 🙁
[14:05] RK : 14-18 jump
[14:05] Sharad : sold @ 88 18000 puts
[14:05] Amit J : shai your view on idea and yes for long expiry trade
[14:06] Shai : Nice Sharad
[14:06] RK : great Sharad
[14:06] Sharad : Thanks Shai
[14:06] Shai : 17922 supp but is still 100 more if that goes
[14:09] Shai : yesbank can give good rise abv 805 cash
[14:09] Shai : Idea looks flattish here and may not move much
[14:10] Janak : meanwhile Ind 12/73/NL
[14:10] Janak : good start
[14:10] Shai : 96 high (12:28) Shai :yes lottery trade is that 18000 pe at 24 now.(12:29) Shai :can do 100 plus
[14:13] Sharad : BNF low was 17935… very near to 17922 Shai number…. Great work Shai..
[14:14] Hussain : hello to all!
[14:14] Shai : thanks 🙂
[14:15] Shai : Hi Hussain
[14:15] Sharad : Thanks we have to say Shai…
[14:16] Sharad : Hussain you missed the bus sorry…for expiry we can call it aeroplane
[14:16] RK : it’s like parking all the 6 balls in the crowd Shai..on the expiry day..great 🙂
[14:16] RK : though not traded anything can take part in Sharad’s joy 🙂
[14:17] Shai : lol. last hour mow
[14:17] r m : 🙂
[14:18] Sharad : i am very happy
[14:18] Sharad : Shai if want to buy again puts..then what is best price for 18000
[14:19] Hussain : sharad never mind expecting many more aeroplan expiry with shai n team 🙂
[14:20] Sharad : true hussain
[14:20] r m : looks like NF eyeing 8348!
[14:21] RK : rm seems you blocked me..can’t ping you 🙂
[14:21] r m : let me relaunch the browser
[14:22] r m : (*** Private to RK ) Am i visible now?
[14:23] Janak : kohli 12 balls 1 run – anushka effect ;
[14:24] Amit J : 100 pts premium in apr. does this mean less long roll and vwap selling in nifty
[14:26] Shai : yes short rollover when that happens
[14:26] Shai : day type is trending downwards- sellers keeping control below vwap
[14:26] Kathir : he is gone to see her
[14:27] Janak : dhawan falls in the pressure
[14:28] RK : ok now one browser can be closed..Virat gone 🙂
[14:34] Sharad : 102 18000 puts
[14:35] Shai : 8387
[14:36] Sharad : 17892 low spike target done
[14:39] Varun : whts mo now @shai @rm
[14:40] r m : -69
[14:40] Varun : even aftr this fall ?
[14:41] Kathir : @rm bought 17900 pe 18 sold 50% 50
[14:41] Sharad : Varun fall only in index stocks not all market
[14:41] r m : severity of the fall has to increase for that number to go down
[14:42] Janak : rohit gone!
[14:42] r m : it is moving average
[14:42] Janak : ha ha India bearish 🙂
[14:44] r m : @Kathir, Congrats!
[14:44] Sharad : Kathir super man
[14:45] Kathir : thanks 🙂
[14:45] Kathir : expecting shai”s 17822 🙁
[14:46] Sharad : shai any bounce possible ?? don’t think so but just asking
[14:46] r m : @Kathir, sd3 band at 17830 on my charts
[14:46] Kathir : oh ok..possible touch there?
[14:46] Janak : maybe tom might be hugely bullish
[14:47] r m : anything possible today, Shai also said 100 possible if 922 support taken out
[14:48] Sharad : 17900 put 18 can buy ?
[14:50] Shai : no avoid
[14:51] Sharad : ok fine
[14:54] Sharad : 40
[14:55] Shai : spot headed for a vry bad clsoe
[14:55] Shai : 8470 spot now res and has to be take out stronglt at open tom
[14:55] RK : anything below 8400..bad
[14:57] Kathir : @rk pl give 17800 now 🙂
[14:57] Amit J : short jspl and dlf for 10 mins
[14:57] Janak : amit?
[14:57] Janak : is that a valid call?
[14:58] Amit J : buy yes and idea for 10 mins
[14:58] Shai : 3 pm is vwap time
[14:58] RK : Kathir 🙂
[14:59] Janak : shai bn apr 130 – can do 100 down more?
[15:00] RK : I think its peak time it has come predicable..short at open and cover at close..hope trend continues today
[15:01] RK : lottery at 150
[15:01] Janak : ok managed 55
[15:02] Shai : That 17900 put could have been good also- but did look like it would have scled up 70 -80 points then there
[15:02] Kathir : thank you shai
[15:02] Kathir : sold remaining 80
[15:03] Shai : 8345
[15:04] Shai : 8336
[15:04] Porus : 18000pe is at 250
[15:04] Janak : mkt falling as wicket are falling
[15:04] Janak : clearly bookies are the sellers here
[15:05] Janak : they are loosing big time on their bet on India
[15:05] Porus : Shai, that nf apr 8700ce still on at lose?
[15:05] Porus : )close?
[15:06] Shai : yes 50% now
[15:06] Shai : 50% if we get open drive
[15:06] Shai : sl 20 below today low
[15:06] Porus : ok thanks
[15:10] Sharad : 110 and 250 premium
[15:10] RK : Tatasteel 320PE bought@1 on Monday..3.50 now
[15:11] r m : Congrats RK, patience pays 🙂
[15:11] Kathir : wow rk super
[15:12] Kathir : 17800 pe 1.35 low 77 high
[15:16] Shai : closing at 8300 ?
[15:16] Sharad : Shai bot 8700 Ce @ 47
[15:17] Sharad : 8325 near about
[15:17] Shai : yes got in also
[15:18] Sharad : 8325 held then it can not break till next 7 days
[15:18] Shai : tom morning let’s see what happens at open- Now spot ahs 8470 res
[15:19] Sharad : but 110 premium how we open if spot open same ? i mean what max can be the premium
[15:19] Shai : expiry done here
[15:19] Hussain : shai yesbank can i buy here?
[15:19] Sharad : 8325 held
[15:20] Amit J : shai call buy here?
[15:20] Shai : yesbank good buy here
[15:21] Shai : Amit pick up 50% only
[15:21] Shai : review tom depending on open
[15:21] Amit J : which call you mentiioned?
[15:21] r m : 8700CE April
[15:21] Shai : 8700 48-51
[15:22] Sharad : tomorrow or monday max should go to 8525 april future
[15:23] Sharad : retest of broken support of 8500 future
[15:23] Shai : yes in line with that 8470 spot
[15:23] Janak : bn apr bounced 150 pts from low!
[15:23] Shai : that is critical now for april
[15:23] Sharad : good shai
[15:24] Janak : i think down move is done
[15:24] Sharad : we can not break 8470 spot at first go… need to come back after first try… retest todays low and then bang again for upside break
[15:24] Janak : huge buying in bn apr
[15:25] Sharad : it is normai that expiry lows or highs are tested in a day or two max
[15:25] Shai : yes 30 L volume below that 8470- so not easy to break up immediately
[15:26] Janak : this is corporate buying from 955 to 18155 – 200 pts!
[15:26] Janak : for march end
[15:26] Sharad : Shai 55 call sell some or hold bot at 47
[15:26] Janak : all the overnight shorts likely to be trapped tom?
[15:26] Shai : hold we should get more n that
[15:26] Sharad : yes janak
[15:26] Sharad : fine Shai
[15:27] Sharad : 8525 is first target april
[15:29] Shai : very off to see this discount in march at close
[15:29] Shai : odd*
[15:29] Janak : stunning upmove in bn in last 25 min
[15:29] Janak : 250 up
[15:30] RK : thanks and bye all..have a good weekend.
[15:30] Sharad : 225 points upmove in bnf
[15:30] Shai : Bye all
[15:30] Shai : Have a good eveing
[15:30] Sharad : Bye all and Thanks shai
[15:30] RK : errr..not a weekend..evening 🙂
[15:30] r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great evening 🙂
[15:30] Shai : 🙂
[15:30] Sharad : today is a salute day
[15:31] Hussain : thanks , bye
[15:31] RK : carried away 🙂
[15:31] RK : by expiry stunts 🙂
[15:32] Porus : Bye all