General Chat Transcript
Date and Time: September 09, 2014 09:32:45
[09:04] r m : Good Morning folks!
[09:04] Shai : GM all
[09:04] Shai : http://vtrender.com/levels-and-plan-for-9th-sept/
[09:05] Sharad : GM all
[09:05] r m : USD has opened very strong today
[09:16] r m : BNF touched YVWAP at once!
[09:17] Kathir : Hi Shai RM all
[09:18] Kathir : @Shai bnf ce exit
[09:19] r m : Hi Kathir
[09:21] Shai : Yes Kathir hold at 16180 sl
[09:22] Shai : NF tested 7173 off open
[09:22] Kathir : ok thanks
[09:25] Sumit : gm Shai, rm, Sharad, Kathir
[09:25] r m : @Shai, you are still in 7XXX mode 😀
[09:26] Shai : 🙂
[09:26] Shai : 8173 **
[09:26] Shai : I always take time to adjust 🙂
[09:26] r m : lol
[09:26] Shai : enough buyers seen at 8173
[09:26] r m : ok
[09:26] Shai : Now to see if we can cross pdh on that
[09:27] Kathir : 🙂
[09:27] Shai : BNF has to cross 15250 quickly
[09:27] Shai : else exit longs and wat
[09:29] Shai : exit BNF longs
[09:32] Shai : (09:05) r m:USD has opened very strong today
[09:32] Shai : By refusing to stay below 6057 we have an insland reversal in usdinr
[09:32] r m : ok
[09:33] Shai : is back in the 60.57- 61.60 range
[09:35] Shai : That usdinr started as a cocktail from Rajan, then Modi added his mix and of course Ben, yellen and draghi keep adding
[09:36] Shai : NF setling down to 8173- 8197 range
[09:36] Shai : may examine these 25 points throroughly before next move
[09:37] Shai : Bias move down if 8164-8173 breaks
[09:37] Shai : BNF has to break past 16250 also
[09:48] Sumit : Shai, please adjust the candle size for bnf
[09:49] Shai : better?
[09:49] Sumit : yes. thanks
[09:49] Shai : welcome:)
[09:50] Shai : Currency markets are on edge over the strength in USD the worldover
[09:50] Shai : we will buy 8100 puts if 8172 breaks in F
[09:55] Kathir : @RM is it posibble to place orders in zerodha? try some orders
[09:57] r m : it is accepting orders
[10:01] Kathir : yeah it is ok now thanks ge
[10:03] r m : welcome jee 🙂
[10:09] Kathir : @Shai nf shot call activted what sl and trg?
[10:10] r m : below 8154 > 8140 > 8120 as per pre-market view
[10:11] Chiranthan : SL and target for NF short?
[10:18] Kathir : @RM ge what will be the price of 8200 ce if nf goes to 8154 now
[10:19] Kathir : even @ 8140
[10:19] Kathir : i sold that guy 🙂
[10:20] r m : 59 and 53
[10:21] Kathir : ok ge thanks for the info
[10:21] r m : 46 at 8120 – take all targets 🙂
[10:21] Kathir : that would be great 🙂
[10:22] Kathir : if i do like this everytday zerodha will cut the mis margin for options soon 🙂
[10:23] r m : 🙂
[10:23] Kathir : dpoc nf has shifted to 8172 vah area now
[10:24] r m : the big blue bars suggest that longs are not willing to surrender so far
[10:24] r m : or maybe shorts booking out!
[10:27] Shai : Short NF only below 8162 now, sl 8176 tgt 8140
[10:30] Kathir : @Shai for the ce you tols to buy hold or exot
[10:30] Kathir : sorry 8100 pe
[10:30] Kathir : told
[10:30] Sumit : dpoc moving along, not letting price move above it
[10:31] Kathir : 80% trade active in both
[10:32] Shai : 8100 pe suggested buy with day highs as sl
[10:32] Shai : can also buy if IB breaks
[10:34] Kathir : ok
[10:34] Shriraj : can any one comment on cipla buy/sell pls
[10:39] Shai : sure
[10:39] Shai : cipla cash I presume?
[10:39] Shriraj : k
[10:40] Shriraj : yes
[10:45] Shai : No sign of weakness in the stock till 563 breaks
[10:45] Shriraj : thnx shai…thnx
[10:45] Shai : It should also continue up is today’s market
[10:46] Shriraj : ok
[10:46] Shai : welcome
[10:46] Narendra : SHAI ABOUT TCS IN FUTURES
[10:47] Narendra : I am positional long
[10:47] Shai : futures?
[10:47] Shai : ok
[10:51] Shai : TCS is driving down today
[10:51] Shai : have to be careful of that long
[10:51] Narendra : buying pric is 2625
[10:52] Shai : can fall to 2615/ 2602 this week if current day low if breoken
[10:52] Shai : suggest stop just below current day low
[10:52] Narendra : ok. thanks
[10:52] Shai : 2657 was a nice spot to book actually
[10:54] Shai : NF price entering inside 8173 again
[10:55] Shai : Looks like we are seeing excess at the highs of 8200 and could mean that the market has finished one leg of an up auction
[10:56] Shai : suggestive of shorts below IBL which can go look at that gap between fri- mon with stops above 8180
[10:57] Shai : positional shorts come in if 8200 stays at close
[10:58] Shai : BNF laso a let down for the long idea by not auctioning abv 16250 this morning
[10:59] Shai : holding around 16170- 16180 and more likely to visist 16110 again below 16170 per hypo 2
[11:21] Chiranthan : Can I enter hexaware positional long?
[11:26] Shai : give me 2 mins- hexaware data not coming through on chart
[11:26] Chiranthan : ok
[11:29] Shai : Not getting the chart still – but price is correcting after a sharp run up
[11:30] Shai : If yiou get an entry around 166 nit will be an extremely good long term hold
[11:30] Chiranthan : SL?
[11:31] Shai : what is your time frame to hold?
[11:31] Shai : hexaware is long term hold
[11:32] Chiranthan : Can hold it for a year
[11:32] Kathir : @Shai shall we initiate fresh short in bnf below 16170 now and sl if so?
[11:33] Shai : In that case hold with stops below 130- should give you good returns
[11:33] Shai : Yes Kathir
[11:33] Chiranthan : ok thanks
[11:35] Kathir : ok shai thanks
[11:40] Sumit : IBL holding up in both nf and bnf
[11:41] Kathir : bnf ib low broke i think
[11:42] r m : yes, but came back in IB
[11:42] r m : now let us see what happens at dval
[11:43] Sumit : dval is thin blue line?
[11:43] r m : yes
[11:43] Sumit : ok thanks
[11:43] r m : that coincides with Shai’s level of 18170 too
[11:44] r m : oops 16170 😀
[11:44] Sumit : yes
[11:44] Sumit : 🙂
[11:44] Sumit : call it premonition
[11:44] r m : lol
[11:45] Kathir : 🙂
[11:56] Kathir : @Shai SL for that short below 16170 bnf?
[12:03] r m : should be VAH i think
[12:03] r m : looks like vwap is conquered though
[12:03] Kathir : ok
[12:04] Kathir : cipla great move up
[12:08] r m : looks like BN wants to visit the day high again
[12:10] Kathir : ok
[12:11] Shai : 16225 res in BNF
[12:26] r m : @Shai, can go long in BNF above 225?
[12:34] Shai : go abv 230 for 272 with sl below 199
[12:34] r m : Thanks
[12:40] r m : pink appeareth!
[12:42] r m : Globe seems green
[12:43] Kathir : bnf discussing with somebody @ 16200
[12:43] r m : yeah
[12:43] r m : BNF’s compass is giving confused reading 🙂
[12:44] Kathir : i will be happy it it takes the guidance from sellers
[12:44] r m : aha! owner of PE 🙂
[12:45] Kathir : no sold CE 🙂 when bnf was at 16220 with 30 SLfrom shai
[12:45] Kathir : bnf i mean
[12:45] r m : ok
[12:45] Kathir : nf pe i hold
[12:46] Kathir : before 1 i have to cut one
[12:46] r m : ok, looks like i bought that CE from you 🙂
[12:46] r m : joking, i got in the CE at IBL break but gave up at VAH
[12:46] Kathir : oh 🙂
[13:02] Kathir : looks like VAH is the key for both now
[13:05] r m : shorts seems to be holding and selling at every little rise
[13:06] Kathir : yeas ge
[13:12] Shai : Normal day or we still get a range extension ?
[13:13] Shai : sellers are parked on the higher floors but not willing to come down and sell lower
[13:13] r m : UK IIP data to be released at 14:00 Hrs, that may impact europe
[13:14] Shai : Option OI menawhile is bullish and building at 8200 PE
[13:14] Shai : with spot at 8130 just can’t understand the 4 L buidup at 8200 PE
[13:15] Shai : over confident bull?
[13:26] Shai : BNf didn’t extend
[13:27] Shai : don’t short here- wait
[13:28] Kathir : @Shai NF short executed Sl 8181?
[13:33] Shai : There were no sellers on that move below 8062 hence advised- (13:27) Shai :don’t short here- wait
[13:34] Shai : But if you are short hold with sl 8184
[13:34] Kathir : ok thanks
[13:34] Shai : there is sellimg higher but so far in the day no evidence of sellers at lows
[13:35] Shai : looks like the sellers will take some time to gte their confidence back 🙂
[13:35] Kathir : 🙂
[13:36] Shai : auctioned is nicely posiotioned to go down actuallt today
[13:36] Shai : *positioned
[13:36] Shai : a sl at 8200 F should give 8105 in 1-2 sessions from here
[13:37] Shai : hence I recommended 8100 puts earlier with day high as sl
[14:17] Sharad : USD 60.88
[14:18] Sharad : we should see some selling pressure in nifty
[14:20] Sharad : may be today or tomorrow
[14:21] Sharad : 8105 as per Shai….
[14:22] Kathir : it will be better if it comes today itself 🙂
[14:22] r m : 🙂
[14:22] Kathir : nf testing my patience with that PE
[14:23] Shai : 61 certain into tom
[14:23] Sharad : not only yours everyones
[14:23] Kathir : lol
[14:23] Shai : the currency markets are all buying dollars- something coming up
[14:24] Sharad : Dollar index @ 84 crucial level i think
[14:26] Shai : true
[14:28] Sharad : and clear break can go to 96 …..
[14:28] Sharad : 60.92 USDINR
[14:29] r m : nifty USDINR co-relation went bust some time back
[14:29] Shai : Sept is a big month always for Fii purchases
[14:29] Shai : avg is 15000- 20000 cr
[14:29] Sharad : actually USDINR is always advance running then nifty
[14:29] r m : ok
[14:30] Shai : in the calendat year it is always feb march then sept oct for them
[14:31] Shai : 8179 is a seller
[14:31] Sharad : i am sure we will definately get 8105 by tomorrow
[14:31] Shai : aggressive sell 8173 with sl 8187 for 8140
[14:32] Sharad : ok sold @ 8175 to cover tomorrow
[14:32] Shai : 8161 is the last buyer
[14:32] Shai : if that breaks think stright 20 down
[14:33] Kathir : ok let hipe for the best this time 🙂
[14:33] Kathir : let us
[14:33] Kathir : hope
[14:34] r m : hope is a form of hype only 🙂
[14:34] Kathir : @RM bought some 61 ce usd/inr based on shai’s 61 trgt
[14:34] r m : ok
[14:35] Kathir : 1 = 1000 right?
[14:35] r m : yes
[14:36] Shai : 61.10 tgt tom
[14:36] Shai : F
[14:36] Kathir : ok shai thanks
[14:37] Kathir : @RM is it possible to find what will be the price of 61 ce inr if it goes to 61.1 tomorow?
[14:38] Anay : possible if u know the delta
[14:38] r m : no, only NOW’s option calculator works but that does not display USDINR in the watch, have not subscribed to currency with that broker
[14:39] Kathir : ok ge
[14:41] r m : @Anay, IV is available from NSE but guess option calculator takes annualized volatility?
[14:42] Anay : may be…not sure abt that
[14:42] r m : ok
[14:43] Anay : @Kathir do u have access to USD/INR option charts?
[14:44] Kathir : @Anay no
[14:44] Sharad : i have it
[14:45] Anay : Cool. what are the resistance levels on the 61 CE?
[14:46] Anay : can u post it here?
[14:46] Sharad : 0.30
[14:47] Anay : can u upload the chart n post a link here?
[14:52] Shai : NF and BNF both at vwap/ dpoc
[14:53] Shai : Rm you got volume at 8199/ 8200 today?
[14:53] Sharad : http://i60.tinypic.com/eahbn5.jpg
[14:54] Shai : I git maybe 1 lot and then 8194
[14:54] r m : @Shai, 8194 is the high caught by data extractor, let me check on ODIN
[14:54] Shai : yes 8194
[14:56] Shai : Thanks Sharad- that swing high is 0.37?
[14:56] r m : Thanks Sharad
[14:57] Sharad : Shai first 15 seconds high 8200 and low 8180.25 volume 681 lots
[14:58] Kathir : @Sharad thanks
[14:58] Sharad : first 5 seconds same high low volume 142 lots
[14:58] Sharad : sorry low 8182
[14:59] Shai : ok- not high volume at 8200- it’s there at 8194 rather
[15:00] r m : opening tick is 8200 – volume 1600 as per ODIN charts, 2nd tick at 8182, 3rd at 8193.95
[15:01] r m : @Shai, if it tiks above 8200, exit 8100PE?
[15:02] r m : or wait for proper close
[15:03] Kathir : @RM ge wait for 8100 🙂
[15:03] r m : ok, thanks 🙂
[15:04] Shai : Rm can stay and exit on open above 8200
[15:05] r m : ok, thanks
[15:05] Shai : last 15 minutes traicks are played
[15:05] Shai : *tricks
[15:05] r m : yes
[15:05] Sharad : yes currency never lies
[15:06] Sharad : its a metter of time
[15:06] Shai : today 1 month 1 day of this trend
[15:08] Kathir : what time the currency market closes 4.30?
[15:08] Sharad : 5
[15:08] Kathir : ok thanks.then i need to wait till 5 today 🙂
[15:13] Shai : Ig you ignore that 8200 tick then both profiles are inside
[15:13] Shai : close at 8175/ 16203 appropriate
[15:16] Shai : Not many sellers from 8162- 8182 in the last 1 hours
[15:20] Shai : Last 15 minutes OrderFlow often holds key for next open
[15:20] Shai : yesterday was on sell side in last 15
[15:21] Anay : ok
[15:23] Shai : yesterday OF- http://screencast.com/t/SYrm0q0zkDet
[15:23] Shai : That base 8155- 8165 protected today
[15:24] r m : bnf looks rested and ready for a fresh climb 🙂
[15:26] Shai : current day – http://screencast.com/t/wYNSyvv6M38Z
[15:26] Shai : Sellers have to push below 8160 tom
[15:27] Shai : buyers holding the close in NF
[15:30] r m : @Kathir, should NF chose to visit 8105 tomorrow, that 8100PE should test 79 🙂
[15:30] Shai : sl is 8201
[15:30] Shai : have to exit abv that
[15:30] r m : ok
[15:30] Shai : Bulls making a strong close
[15:30] Sumit : good bye everyone
[15:30] Anay : ok
[15:30] r m : Thanks and bye folks, have a great evening 🙂
[15:30] Shai : Bye all
[15:30] Anay : bye all
[15:30] Anay : cya 2moro
[15:30] Shai : Have a nice eve
[15:31] Sharad : Thanks all
[15:31] Sharad : bye
[15:31] Kathir : thanks and bye all 🙂